Karnivor and Proto Matrix
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Topic: Karnivor and Proto Matrix
Posted By: JimmyC8277
Subject: Karnivor and Proto Matrix
Date Posted: 27 November 2005 at 11:08pm
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Out of the Karnivor or Proto Matrix what do you guys perfer. I'm looking into a tournament gun me since my R/t can't compete in some of them. I was looking at some dyes and bob longs and angels etc. I do not like the gun companies that come out with more updated ones every year with years (example an angel 06 and angel 05 speed) b/c the next year i would feel like crap lol. I was looking at either Dye Proto Matrix or the WGP Karnivor autococker. Which one out of these two would you perfer? Thanks for your advice and if you know any others in that price range that would be good for me let me know, thanks! ------------- Tippmann 98 Custom -14 Inch Bead Blasted Bigshot -RT Kit -Trigger X2 -Cyclone Feed -Lp Kit -Palmers Male Stabilizer -Crossfire Nitro Tank -Sticky Grips -Camo Graphics -S.S. Screws |
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 28 November 2005 at 12:46am
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Keep in mind that nearly every company releases a new version of thier guns each year. So, if you buy a PM6 now, you'll feel like crap next year when they release the PM7. Get over it. I'm an Angel freak. I love those things, and Speeds and Fly's are cheap now. Or, you could go for a DM4 or maybe even a DM5 if you get lucky and find a cheap used one. Out of your two desires, Proto for sure. Cockers just don't tickle me right. |
Posted By: fullauto07
Date Posted: 28 November 2005 at 7:13am
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i think the karnivor autococker is a better tourney gun because its a autococker and them are exetreamly accurate! ------------- my setup: Tippmann A-5,with r/t trigger 14" Tippmann barrel 48 ci air america hpa tank view loader 3+1 harnness jt proteus mask dye du rag extream rage gloves |
Posted By: 636andy636
Date Posted: 28 November 2005 at 2:48pm
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if you get a cocker get a used one
Go for the proto |
Posted By: Nutteralex
Date Posted: 28 November 2005 at 2:52pm
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I'd say Timmy or Angel, neither on your list. But Protos have new ones
every year now and I'm pretty sure karnis do to. But between them, a
proto.
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Posted By: Nutteralex
Date Posted: 28 November 2005 at 2:54pm
Hahahahahaha, looking at advertisements are we. It's all in the barrel, a gun isn't really more accurate then the other, unless if we're talking stock barrels. ------------- Please for the love of god don't get a flatline. |
fullauto07 wrote:Posted By: Rare-Faction
Date Posted: 28 November 2005 at 4:08pm
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Of your choices? I'd go with a Karnivor. I think they look and feel nicer than Matrices However, it doesn't matter what we think. Try out each marker yourself, see what you like. Either marker will get the job done. ------------- 
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Posted By: ANARCHY_SCOUT
Date Posted: 28 November 2005 at 4:34pm
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personel preference but id go for the cocker'.
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Posted By: MeanMan
Date Posted: 28 November 2005 at 7:07pm
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i personally like the Bob Long Defiant the new ones i also like shockers, there so tiny |
Posted By: GoTsKiLLz
Date Posted: 28 November 2005 at 9:59pm
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i'd go with a PM6..seeing i have 1, they are awesome guns man...just get a board...and new barrel and ur set.
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Posted By: HPD2
Date Posted: 28 November 2005 at 11:19pm
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Definetly get the karni u will love it
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Posted By: newdude
Date Posted: 04 December 2005 at 11:51am
| DM4 all the way |
Posted By: Mr.Shake56
Date Posted: 05 December 2005 at 12:12am
| man karnivore all the way. today i was playing against sum kid who had a karni he was like 11 and my gun broke down so i got a rrental so me and his are shooting and man is that thing accurate |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 05 December 2005 at 8:55pm
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angel. they arent just guns, they are works of art! plus, even the old angels are god-like. wow. interesting analogy, when i think about it. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell" 
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 05 December 2005 at 8:59pm
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Buying into blowback propaganda, are we? OF COURSE some guns are more accurate than others. Some guns do a better job of delivering consistent air to the ball, which results in each shot being more like the one before. Ever wonder why, when you chrono with your Tippmann, you get a swing of 10fps from shot to shot? That's inconsistency. With an Angel or an Autococker, for instance, you might get 3fps variation. That means more consistency, which means better accuracy. This is why people buy expensive air tanks, upgraded regulators, and a bunch of other consistency upgrades. Paint is important, barrel is important, but so is the gun. |
Posted By: billcosby
Date Posted: 06 December 2005 at 6:34am
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IMO get the karni ------------- GABAA GABBA HEY PUNK IS HERE TO STAY Ride foundation I shoot a timmy |
Posted By: TippmannBro
Date Posted: 06 December 2005 at 11:16am
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Eh... Karni. They look good and are freakin fast...
But if I really wanted a tourney gun... Angel Speed. All the way.
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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 06 December 2005 at 11:27am
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I am baised toward cockers
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 06 December 2005 at 11:32am
| I love cockers, but e-cockers just seem like something Dr. Evil would invent - "e" and "cocker" don't belong together, IMO. But then I'm pretty old-fashioned, and I like my mech guns. |
Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 06 December 2005 at 6:09pm
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There's an indecisive answer if I've ever heard one!
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Posted By: Hairball!!!
Date Posted: 06 December 2005 at 8:58pm
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Proto over Karni
'cockers require more maintenance, timing, etc. Matrixes you just lube the bolt. That's more work than, say, an Automag, but it's less than any cocker |
Posted By: olayolay
Date Posted: 19 December 2005 at 6:16pm
| timmy |
Posted By: TruePaintballer
Date Posted: 19 December 2005 at 6:35pm
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out of those two I would say Proto ------------- http://www.freewebs.com/outlawspaintball/index.htm - Outlaws *Sponsors* http://www.abrika.ca - Abrika |
Posted By: ANARCHY_SCOUT
Date Posted: 22 December 2005 at 3:25am
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actually E-mag will almost never let you down and can totaly rip.
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Posted By: P!NK panther
Date Posted: 22 December 2005 at 1:56pm
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not nessasarrily (sp?) i used a karnivore in a tournament before, and they are not that great. However, I own a proto and it is my favorite gun i have ever used. Now, I own a proto and ego. ------------- http://www.theimagehosting.com"> 
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