any SP-8 Sightings?
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Topic: any SP-8 Sightings?
Posted By: skruge
Subject: any SP-8 Sightings?
Date Posted: 06 December 2005 at 8:13pm
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Anyone have or see anyone toting a SP-8 in the field? There's one on
display at my local PB shop. Technically it is supposed to be an Ion in
a tactical shell. The gun is awsome. Personally I think the shell is
extremely ugly. However, the guns speed cancels out the ugly. LOL
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Posted By: monty_sniper
Date Posted: 06 December 2005 at 8:14pm
nope, nvr seen one used.
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 06 December 2005 at 8:14pm
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No. And that's good, because if I saw someone with one of them, I would be forced to point and laugh. And throw beer bottles.
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Posted By: skruge
Date Posted: 06 December 2005 at 8:18pm
hybrid-sniper wrote:
No. And that's good, because if I saw someone with
one of them, I would be forced to point and laugh. And throw beer
bottles. | why would you laugh? just curious. the gun is kind of
bulkly and ugly but it out performs most tippmans.
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Posted By: djrock
Date Posted: 06 December 2005 at 8:19pm
That is funny, why haven't any of my local pro-shops ordered any yet? All they are is an Ion with a new body for woodsball.
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 06 December 2005 at 8:19pm
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skruge wrote:
hybrid-sniper wrote:
No. And that's good, because if I saw someone with one of them, I would be forced to point and laugh. And throw beer bottles. | why would you laugh? just curious. the gun is kind of bulkly and ugly but it out performs most tippmans.
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I have my reasons. Mil Sim stuff makes me gag.
It may out perform most Tippmanns but then again I don't shoot a Tippmann anymore.
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Posted By: Mr.Shake56
Date Posted: 06 December 2005 at 8:21pm
Posted By: skruge
Date Posted: 06 December 2005 at 8:22pm
hybrid-sniper wrote:
skruge wrote:
hybrid-sniper wrote:
No. And
that's good, because if I saw someone with one of them, I would be
forced to point and laugh. And throw beer bottles. | why would you
laugh? just curious. the gun is kind of bulkly and ugly but it out
performs most tippmans.
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I have my reasons. Mil Sim stuff makes me gag.
It may out perform most Tippmanns but then again I don't shoot a Tippmann anymore. | oh okay cool, what marker do you use? (including mods)
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 06 December 2005 at 8:24pm
skruge wrote:
hybrid-sniper wrote:
skruge wrote:
hybrid-sniper wrote:
No. And that's good, because if I saw someone with one of them, I would be forced to point and laugh. And throw beer bottles. | why would you laugh? just curious. the gun is kind of bulkly and ugly but it out performs most tippmans.
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I have my reasons. Mil Sim stuff makes me gag.
It may out perform most Tippmanns but then again I don't shoot a Tippmann anymore.
| oh okay cool, what marker do you use? (including mods)
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http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=137836&KW=Fly - http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=137 836&KW=Fly
That.
That gun is the reason I dislike Milsim related paintball stuff. The game itself is fine, but I don't like it. And my personality causes the laughing and throwing of bottles.
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Posted By: Whazuuup!
Date Posted: 06 December 2005 at 8:32pm
^^Dang that's hott.
SP-8s are probably decent guns, but they look so plastic and....

yeah... something out of halo.
How much do they cost?
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Posted By: djrock
Date Posted: 06 December 2005 at 8:38pm
They are just Ions with a completely new look to them.
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It's been changed jackass.
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Posted By: skruge
Date Posted: 06 December 2005 at 8:47pm
Whazuuup! wrote:
^^Dang that's hott.
SP-8s are probably decent guns, but they look so plastic and....

yeah... something out of halo.
How much do they cost?
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they aren't plastic. they do look plastic though. i shot it in the back
of the store. its sweet. they do look like something out of a video
game though. LOL The store around my area charges $425.
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Posted By: RedLion56
Date Posted: 07 December 2005 at 5:40am
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Yeah a bit pricey.But if you are a Halo fanatic then i guess you would like one of them.
I think the magazine is unpractical (unless it is a gas-thru mag) and i bet the barell is unacurate.
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Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 07 December 2005 at 10:02am
I've seen them in action. Pretty darn accurate, awfull heavy though but what do ya expect for a MIL SIM.
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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 07 December 2005 at 10:14am
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If I got a Ion I sure as hell wouldn't get one with over a $100 dollar body added to it that makes it 3x as heavy, and half as funtional.
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Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 07 December 2005 at 2:49pm
Snake. The SP8 is just an ION with a body kit, you still have all the functions of a normal stock ION.
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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 07 December 2005 at 3:30pm
I know that you have the functions, Iwas tlaking about all the extra wieght, and bulk that is added for no reason whatsoever...
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Posted By: skruge
Date Posted: 07 December 2005 at 3:47pm
Snake6 wrote:
I know that you have the functions, Iwas tlaking about
all the extra wieght, and bulk that is added for no reason whatsoever...
| well think about it, majority of woodsball fans have heavy markers when they finishing modding.
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Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 07 December 2005 at 4:51pm
skruge wrote:
Snake6 wrote:
I know that you have the functions, Iwas tlaking about
all the extra wieght, and bulk that is added for no reason whatsoever...
| well think about it, majority of woodsball fans have heavy markers when they finishing modding.
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It's all for looks. I'm an avid woodballer and cant stand the thought
of using an heavy/loud marker, especially in a 24hour scenario on a
huge field.
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 07 December 2005 at 7:59pm
*sigh* and again I continue my crusade against people who cry about the weight of *any* paintball marker.
SUCK IT UP. Go to the Gym or something, for crying out loud. It's pathetic that people can't stand the thought of carrying a five pound object around all day. Bloody hell. If the MilSim marker's that damned heavy put a sling on it, or something, but don't whine that it's 'too heavy' because it weighs more than your TV remote.
The Ion is a perfectly functional marker for anyone who doens't feel a pathological need to compensate for their penis, and probably their inability to shoot accurately by emptying their bank account into a grotesquely overpriced piece of circuitry and milling. The Ion is on par with a lot of markers three times its cost in terms of appreciable performance, and if you actually think there's a practical difference between 15 BPS and 25, you need to put down your paintball marker and get a real life outside of speedball. I hope the entire sport gets capped at 15 bps so all the Ion owners can laugh at you condescending prima donnas with your $1700 wonderguns.
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 07 December 2005 at 8:05pm
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brihard wrote:
*sigh* and again I continue my crusade against people who cry about the weight of *any* paintball marker.
SUCK IT UP. Go to the Gym or something, for crying out loud. It's pathetic that people can't stand the thought of carrying a five pound object around all day. Bloody hell. If the MilSim marker's that damned heavy put a sling on it, or something, but don't whine that it's 'too heavy' because it weighs more than your TV remote.
The Ion is a perfectly functional marker for anyone who doens't feel a pathological need to compensate for their penis, and probably their inability to shoot accurately by emptying their bank account into a grotesquely overpriced piece of circuitry and milling. The Ion is on par with a lot of markers three times its cost in terms of appreciable performance, and if you actually think there's a practical difference between 15 BPS and 25, you need to put down your paintball marker and get a real life outside of speedball. I hope the entire sport gets capped at 15 bps so all the Ion owners can laugh at you condescending prima donnas with your $1700 wonderguns.
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God I sure hope that never happens. 
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 07 December 2005 at 8:17pm
The day it does is the day they save the credibility of paintball and turn it into a skill based on sport rather than on technology and one's ability to spend money on ammunition. They might as well send everyone out there with a pressure washer hose the way it's played now. Hell, if I had my way speedball would be limited to 7 or 8 BPS, but I know that's just hoping for something I'll never see. There's no need for people to shoot so bloody fast though, and it keeps the sport prohibitively expensive for new players who want to be on a vague technological par with the teenagers who spend daddy's money on their markers.
Other radical ideas include limiting players to 'x' number of paintballs per game, or limiting markers to mechanical only. I have incredible respect for those pump players who go to speedball fields and dominate the semiauto teams using skill and precision. The 'sport' such as it is, revolves these days around technology, attitude, and one's ability to cheat without getting caught. That's not much of a sport in my eyes.
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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 08 December 2005 at 7:36am
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I play speedball, and woodsball. I have been known to go on my local field after a long day of reffin, with all the other refs who all shoot electros, with nothing with a pump, or a pistol. Why do I do it, because it is fun.
But that aside, all the SP-8 is is a speedball marker with a woodsball body. WHy would I pay over $100 more for a plastic body? Why not get a stock Ion for $100 less, that is lighter which allows for more speed on the playing field, smaller which allows for snap-shooting. Therefore allowing you to play speedball, and woodsball with it. Therefore the stock Ion is a more functional marker so why pay $100 more for something that is less funtional?
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 08 December 2005 at 12:51pm
Because for some Mil-Sim players, the look is definitely worth it. Look at all those kids who buy thsoe godaful M4 barrel kits fo their 98 Customs, when the money would be much better spent on a J&J Ceramic and a case of paint to practice with?
I'm a Mil-Simmer, but I purchase for function. I have a flatline because I like the extra range, and a car-stock because I've got enough experience with real firearms that shooting without a stock feels bloody weird and uncomfortable.
I picked up a SIM-5 as well, but Ariakons are very highly regarded for reliability and accuracy. Great barrel, it comes with a stock already, obviously, and it just happens to look killer.
The SP8 wouldn't be my personal choice, but some people like the electronics, so if that suits them, fine. There's a stock upgrade coming out, plus a new barrel that will actually function as a suppressor. Besides, considering how much money you can drop intoa marker that's barely more functional than an ion (over a thousand bucks, for isntance), if you can afford it, why not drop the extra hundred for looks if that's your style? Most speedballers would spend that much in paint pretty quickly anyway, so I don't see there being a big deal.
Personally if I were going for an XM-8 lookalike I'd go with the MkX8 or whatever it's called that JCS released. Better XM8 looks, plus thes tock is included and it's all mechanical...
I think Smart Parts is on to something, personall;y. Notice that WGP quietly released their tactical autococker (not that trilogy piece of junk, I mean the $700 one) with the weaver rails and such. The companies are starting to wake up and realzie there's a growing market in MilSim, and they're trying to tap our dollars. They've takena smart approach- tkaing a proven system (the Ion) that already has a great reputation, and then adapting it for MilSim. Once they rpove to themselves that they can break into the market, maybe they'll make something emcahnical, with a single trigger.
Alternatively, what they may do use the ion internals (though again hopefully with a single trigger) and release a number of different shells or bodies so people can pick and choose their look- I could see a G36 being easily done the same way as the SP8, for instance, plus any number of other rifles.
There's a lot of potential, and SP is starting to explore it.
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 08 December 2005 at 1:27pm
I just discovered some photos of the SP8 with the enw accessories mounted- it looks MUCH better now. Check these out:
http://www.usmilitarygear.com/sp8tactical.php


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Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 08 December 2005 at 4:15pm
brihard wrote:
*sigh* and again I continue my crusade against people who cry about the weight of *any* paintball marker.
SUCK
IT UP. Go to the Gym or something, for crying out loud. It's pathetic
that people can't stand the thought of carrying a five pound object
around all day. Bloody hell. If the MilSim marker's that damned heavy
put a sling on it, or something, but don't whine that it's 'too heavy'
because it weighs more than your TV remote.
The Ion is a
perfectly functional marker for anyone who doens't feel a pathological
need to compensate for their penis, and probably their inability to
shoot accurately by emptying their bank account into a grotesquely
overpriced piece of circuitry and milling. The Ion is on par with a lot
of markers three times its cost in terms of appreciable performance,
and if you actually think there's a practical difference between 15 BPS
and 25, you need to put down your paintball marker and get a real life
outside of speedball. I hope the entire sport gets capped at 15 bps so
all the Ion owners can laugh at you condescending prima donnas with
your $1700 wonderguns.
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i agree completely... i've seen people whine about the A-5 and how it's
so heavy... honestly, an 8 year old could run around with this and have
an easy time. Start complaining when your marker starts weighing
20 lb, which i would agree to be a reasonable "pissy" point.
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Posted By: brit1919
Date Posted: 08 December 2005 at 5:03pm
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I think its ridiculous that people whine about carrying 5-6 pund guns. Ever held the real thing?...Imagine carrying a real rifle all day all the time. Seriously, an m-60 is closing in on the 15-20 lb mark, and a fully outfitted M16a2 starts at about 7 lb anyway. Sorry im ranting now
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Posted By: Scotchbroth
Date Posted: 08 December 2005 at 7:41pm
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I was at the UK launch of the SP8, And i have to say that it performed well. It was fast and accurate and not at the expense of weight as it is not much heavier than an A5.
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Posted By: skruge
Date Posted: 08 December 2005 at 7:56pm
^^^ thats what i was thinking. when i was in the store, i held it. it didnt feel much heavier than my a5.
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Posted By: eliminator
Date Posted: 08 December 2005 at 8:44pm
brihard wrote:
I just discovered some photos of the SP8 with the enw accessories mounted- it looks MUCH better now. Check these out:
http://www.usmilitarygear.com/sp8tactical.php


| ahh.. nope still looks wacky... a-5 wit mods are way bettre like the a-5 stealth.
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Posted By: Ilford Rule
Date Posted: 08 December 2005 at 8:47pm
brit1919 wrote:
I think its ridiculous that people whine
about carrying 5-6 pund guns. Ever held the real thing?...Imagine
carrying a real rifle all day all the time. Seriously, an m-60 is
closing in on the 15-20 lb mark, and a fully outfitted M16a2 starts at
about 7 lb anyway. Sorry im ranting now |
As true as that is, give these people some credit. Although 5-6 pounds
IS nothing, Tippmanns are comparatively heavy guns. At least they
aren't shooting spyder mechanicals (ugh). Those weigh a pound tops (at
least the x-tra does). We should go to the Kingman forums and see how
much they freak out about the 98's weight, let alote the SP-8.
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 09 December 2005 at 2:15am
brit1919 wrote:
I think its ridiculous that people whine
about carrying 5-6 pund guns. Ever held the real thing?...Imagine
carrying a real rifle all day all the time. Seriously, an m-60 is closing in on the 15-20 lb mark, and a fully outfitted M16a2 starts at about 7 lb anyway. Sorry im ranting now |
It's been a while, but if I remember correctly the M60 was
approximately 23 lbs. The M60 replacement (M240?) is even heavier.
Where's Old Soldier when we need his expertise?
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Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 09 December 2005 at 10:57am
brihard wrote:
*sigh* and again I continue my crusade against people who cry about the weight of *any* paintball marker.
SUCK
IT UP. Go to the Gym or something, for crying out loud. It's pathetic
that people can't stand the thought of carrying a five pound object
around all day. Bloody hell. If the MilSim marker's that damned heavy
put a sling on it, or something, but don't whine that it's 'too heavy'
because it weighs more than your TV remote.
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O God, I am going to call you Hurculese from now on. When I run your
flank and shoot you in the butt beause your too lazy with your
over-weight impracticale MIL-SIM dont be crying as you walk off the
field.
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Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 09 December 2005 at 11:05am
Justice wrote:
brihard wrote:
*sigh* and again I continue my crusade against people who cry about the weight of *any* paintball marker.
SUCK
IT UP. Go to the Gym or something, for crying out loud. It's pathetic
that people can't stand the thought of carrying a five pound object
around all day. Bloody hell. If the MilSim marker's that damned heavy
put a sling on it, or something, but don't whine that it's 'too heavy'
because it weighs more than your TV remote.
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O God, I am going to call you Hurculese from now on. When I run your
flank and shoot you in the butt beause your too lazy with your
over-weight impracticale MIL-SIM dont be crying as you walk off the
field.
ps.
Your assumption of me is way off. I am 36 years old, 6'-0" tall and
around 200lbs. I dont consider myself weak and I have been to the GYM
in my past but now with 2 kids (both in diapers), working full time,
wiife works full time and has school two nights a week I hardly have
the time to breathe lately so I dont goto the GYM anymore.
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 09 December 2005 at 12:39pm
Justice wrote:
O God, I am going to call you Hurculese from now on. When I run your
flank and shoot you in the butt beause your too lazy with your
over-weight impracticale MIL-SIM dont be crying as you walk off the
field.
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Hush, silly tool. You imply that because my Tippmann weighs more than your TV remote that I'm going to sit there? Hardly. If I can sprint with a light machinegun or loaded assault rifle on a section attack in my infantry training, I can sure as hell book it up a flank with a Tippmann or an Ariakon. I don't just sit there waiting for stuff to happen unless that's my team's strategy- I'm generally one of the guys up on point or booking round the perimeter of the field to infiltrate the enemy flank.
When I play, I play with teammates, and we watch each others' flanks. If we DO elect to sit still so our defence can absorb and repulse and attack before we go on the advance, I guarantee that people arne't going to have an opportunity to flank us since we've got mutual overwatch. And when we DO move up, if I'm moving, my buddy's firing to keep your head down, and then when he's moving, I'm doing the covering.
Now go back to your circlejerk Counter-strike fantasies about what paintball in the woods is actually like in your world.
EDIt TO ADD: Oh yeah, I accidentally drifted the thread. Anywho, redgarding the actual SP-8, some of you think it looks weird, but it's based off the design of a real firearm, the H&K XM-8 that was being developed as a possible M16 replacement. The stock SP8 looks like crap, but with the new barrel and the stock it looks respectably similar to the real firearm. A single trigger would be nice, but I'm sure they'll realize they goofed on that soon enough and offer it as a five dollar upgrade...
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Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 09 December 2005 at 2:04pm
^ ok Herculese We all know how the Canadian army is so kick butt and all.
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 09 December 2005 at 2:20pm
Kind of sad that you consider anyone who can lift seven pounds Hercules. I'd reccommend working out. Well anyway, we use essentially the same firearms that your military does. I presume you'd consider an American soldier to be just as worthy of condescension on the basis of both of us doing the exact same job in essentially the same way? And I'll draw attention the the Presidential Unit Citation that your government gave to several of our units in Afhganistan. Plus the silver stars some of our soldiers were awarded by your government. Though this is probably lost on you, as you'd likely be hard pressed to make it through the boy scouts, never mind a real military force.
It's OK, though. Pussies wave all kinds of flags; we have our share of such up here in Canada too, just like most Ameicans I've met are reasonable, intelligent people, despite your efforts to convince me otherwise
But I digress- you've already satisfactorally proved your own ignroance. Go back to playing Counter-Strike, child. At least there you might convince someone you're cool. Maybe you can reinforce the unfortuante stereotype your kind has given to your entire country while you're at it.
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Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 09 December 2005 at 3:12pm
It's all personal preference like I stated in my original reply. But
you the all mighty Hercules seems to care less about personal
prefernce, it's your way or your a "wimp" right?
Keep up with the flaming, it's rather amusing.
O yeah I clicked the link in your sig and it looks like you got hacked.
I guess you've spread your ideologies a lil too far AYE?!
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 09 December 2005 at 3:34pm
LOL, if you look again you'll see the website was back up within 30 minutes of it being ahcked. The site owners are on the ball. It's not my site, I jsut happen to be a member of it/
Of course it's eprsonal rpeference- which is why it was so idiotic when you tried to argue that anyone with a 'heavy' (read- MilSim marker) is jsut gonna sit in place instead of moving. After I shot THAt down, I moved on to deconstructing your ignroant perception of my country's armed forces. I also made note of the fact that you feel only 'Hercules' (congrats on realziing your spelling was all FUBAR to being with, BTW) coudl lift a five pound marker. I believe I also condemned you for contribution to the incorrect but prevalent stereotype that Americans are idiot. I know better, but you manage to convey taht impressionto foreigners who've not had adequate experience to know the truth.
I'll point out that YOU started the name calling and flaming, so don't get high and might. I also never referred to you as a wimp; I beleive the term I used was '**edited**', but in the plural sense.
People can play however they want, but for people to cry about a marker weighing (Gasp!) five pounds is just absolutely pathetic and a sign of the times, in how goddamned lazy some people are.
If you're 36, I can't even fathom how you could still maintain such an infantile attitude. I know the anonymity of the itnernet is nice, but that doesn't mean any grown man should abuse that priviliege to act like an utter tool. Would you want your children to espouse the same condescending attitudes you do, blindly condemning and insulting without any actual knowledge of what you're talking about?
For that matter, if you've got such a time consuming and important family life why do you come on here flaming peopel and generally making an ass of yourself when you could be spending time with your kids?
Pathetic.
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Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 09 December 2005 at 4:09pm
brihard wrote:
I also made note of the fact that you feel only
'Hercules' (congrats on realziing your spelling was all FUBAR to being
with, BTW) coudl lift a five pound marker.
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Dont be slammin me for my spelling when your replies are laced with
spelling and grammatical errors as well. Hense the old saying "people
who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones".
brihard wrote:
For
that matter, if you've got such a time consuming and important family
life why do you come on here flaming peopel and generally making an ass
of yourself when you could be spending time with your kids?
Pathetic.
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Some of us actually have this thing called a Job. I am not you, I work for a living.
brihard wrote:
I'll point out that YOU started the name calling and
flaming, so don't get high and might. I also never referred to you as a
wimp; I beleive the term I used was '**edited**', but in the plural
sense.
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*No he started it. No he did! Who's the child here?
And for your previous comments about counterstrike...
I never said I played counterstrike in this post so whatever medication
you forgot to take this morning I think you need to remember to take it
tommorow.
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 09 December 2005 at 4:30pm
Justice wrote:
Dont be slammin me for my spelling when your replies are laced with
spelling and grammatical errors as well. Hense the old saying "people
who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones".
Some of us actually have this thing called a Job. I am not you, I work for a living.
*No he started it. No he did! Who's the child here?
And for your previous comments about counterstrike...
I never said I played counterstrike in this post so whatever medication
you forgot to take this morning I think you need to remember to take it
tommorow.
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And some of us attend university (so we can alter work for a living) AND have a job (so we can pay for the emans to alter work for a living). I forgot though, that the Canadian military is such a joke that it doens't count as employment, right?
The counterstrike comments were based off your presumptions about tactics and how I play the game, plus your apparent level of maturity. Any idiot can come on the Tippmann forums and start making dumb posts like 'OMG! Five pounds! Herculese!!!' Previous to this we were having a relatively intelligent discussion. If you'd kindly bugger off I'd like to continue discussing the relevant stuff with thsoe interested in the subject matter- namely the marker in question, its impact on the MilSim style of play, and the comparison of that style of play to other style which other people favour. If you think that MilSim markers are too heavy you can go to pbnation and circlejerk with the die-hard speedballers.
My typing (and consequently spelling) is occasionally atrocious, but my grammar is close to impeccable. Don't overgeneralize your flames- they tend to rebound. And your last comment does not negate the truth that you showed up in this thread without anything intelligent to say and started spouting off drivel, thus provoking my retaliatory comments. You've managed to reduce jsut about everything else to a fifth-grade level though, so I suppose a 'he started it!, no he did!' comparison oughtn't surprise me. Thsoe backed into logical corners often slip into redundancy and a declining downward spiral of increasingly pathetic flames.
Now please, go ruin someone else's thread, or else post something intelligent about the SP8 marker and possibly redeem yourself somewhat.
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Posted By: Ilford Rule
Date Posted: 09 December 2005 at 6:06pm
nice one brihard. good to know fellow Canadians understand the purpose
of a thread. as to our friend justice here, please stop with your
comments and actually post about the marker in question, that being the
SP-8. I can't force you, and I don't think anyone really can, but as
brihard said, save your reputation and say something intelligent. that
is all.
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Posted By: tippmanncp
Date Posted: 09 December 2005 at 7:57pm
i do believe the sp8 is modded off the gun the military is adopting to replace the m16 line.
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Posted By: skruge
Date Posted: 09 December 2005 at 7:59pm
brihard wrote:
[QUOTE=Justice]EDIt TO ADD: Oh yeah, I accidentally drifted the thread.
Anywho, redgarding the actual SP-8, some of you think it looks weird,
but it's based off the design of a real firearm, the H&K XM-8 that
was being developed as a possible M16 replacement. The stock SP8 looks
like crap, but with the new barrel and the stock it looks respectably
similar to the real firearm. A single trigger would be nice, but I'm
sure they'll realize they goofed on that soon enough and offer it as a
five dollar upgrade...
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thanks for that bit of knowledge. well, what-do-ya-know it is a real
gun. so for the person who said it looks like something out of halo
check this out...
http://www4.army.mil/ocpa/uploads/large/XM8_Carbine2004-06-16.jpg - http://www4.army.mil/ocpa/uploads/large/XM8_Carbine2004-06-1 6.jpg
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Posted By: triggerhappy1
Date Posted: 09 December 2005 at 8:07pm
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hybrid-sniper wrote:
No. And that's good, because if I saw someone with one of them, I would be forced to point and laugh. And throw beer bottles. |

Talk to Rouge from RPG. We were was discussing the ION's huge problems, downfalls, unreliabilty, ect. This man knows his stuff. Im not going to argue about it though. And someones going to say "yeah because you dont know what your talking about." For the most part, yeah, but from what he knows, hah.
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 09 December 2005 at 8:20pm
The majority of reviews at pbreview.com seem to claim otherwise. Its reliability isn't really in question among most of the people who own one.
Skruge- no problem, bud. I love education people about guns and such. The XM8 is a prety sexy rifle, and a good marker based on it is downright hot. I'd like to find a review of the MKX8 from JCS, see if maybe they did a better job of it than Smart Parts did.
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Posted By: skruge
Date Posted: 09 December 2005 at 8:33pm
if you find it let me know.
btw, pbreview.com doesn't always get it right but its a great site. that saved me from making a couple of HUGE mistakes.
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Posted By: triggerhappy1
Date Posted: 09 December 2005 at 8:40pm
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Buy it, take it out of a box, shoot it and write a review is whats on pbreview, as well as biased reveiws. People dont understand the long term effect... Like the Pinto, great, cheap, perfect car that everyone wanted, untill they discovered the gas tank would instantly bust open, spill and burn under the car while the doors would be smashed shut when even slightly rear-ended.
Christ why am I arguing.
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Posted By: skruge
Date Posted: 09 December 2005 at 8:48pm
triggerhappy1 wrote:
Buy it, take it out of a box, shoot it and
write a review is whats on pbreview, as well as biased reveiws. People
dont understand the long term effect... Like the Pinto, great, cheap,
perfect car that everyone wanted, untill they discovered the gas tank
would instantly bust open, spill and burn under the car while the doors
would be smashed shut when even slightly rear-ended.
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yes why are you arguing? people update their reviews all the time on
pbreview.com. and just because something gets bad reviews doesnt mean
people are not going to buy it. it is just things that other people
noticed that you should take into consideration. thats all.
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Posted By: Ilford Rule
Date Posted: 09 December 2005 at 10:11pm
Wow, my post actually shut "justice" up. Anyways, thanks guys for restoring this thread to it's true intent. Has anyone seen an SP-8 yet?
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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 10 December 2005 at 6:32am
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Justice wrote:
^ ok Herculese We all know how the Canadian army is so kick butt and all.  |
Check your attitude, you're coming off as a jerk to anyone with half a brain that reads this thread.
And if you're going to complain about the weight of a paintball marker if its 5 pounds....I dont think I need to worry about ever having you mad at me.
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Posted By: eliminator
Date Posted: 10 December 2005 at 8:55am
the things are wacky! no matter if they got longer barrels or stocks or scopes or whatever!!! just get a a-5 mod : ex: a-5 stealth. it may be heavy but don't whine about u lazy people!!
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Posted By: eliminator
Date Posted: 10 December 2005 at 8:58am
brihard wrote:
Justice wrote:
Dont be slammin me for my spelling when your replies are laced with spelling and grammatical errors as well. Hense the old saying "people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones".
Some of us actually have this thing called a Job. I am not you, I work for a living.
*No he started it. No he did! Who's the child here?
And for your previous comments about counterstrike...
I never said I played counterstrike in this post so whatever medication you forgot to take this morning I think you need to remember to take it tommorow.
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And some of us attend university (so we can alter work for a living) AND have a job (so we can pay for the emans to alter work for a living). I forgot though, that the Canadian military is such a joke that it doens't count as employment, right?
The counterstrike comments were based off your presumptions about tactics and how I play the game, plus your apparent level of maturity. Any idiot can come on the Tippmann forums and start making dumb posts like 'OMG! Five pounds! Herculese!!!' Previous to this we were having a relatively intelligent discussion. If you'd kindly bugger off I'd like to continue discussing the relevant stuff with thsoe interested in the subject matter- namely the marker in question, its impact on the MilSim style of play, and the comparison of that style of play to other style which other people favour. If you think that MilSim markers are too heavy you can go to pbnation and circlejerk with the die-hard speedballers.
My typing (and consequently spelling) is occasionally atrocious, but my grammar is close to impeccable. Don't overgeneralize your flames- they tend to rebound. And your last comment does not negate the truth that you showed up in this thread without anything intelligent to say and started spouting off drivel, thus provoking my retaliatory comments. You've managed to reduce jsut about everything else to a fifth-grade level though, so I suppose a 'he started it!, no he did!' comparison oughtn't surprise me. Thsoe backed into logical corners often slip into redundancy and a declining downward spiral of increasingly pathetic flames.
Now please, go ruin someone else's thread, or else post something intelligent about the SP8 marker and possibly redeem yourself somewhat.
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 10 December 2005 at 11:12am
Playing with other army types is good times, but paintball is just a game, so we don't get hardcore or too serious about it. Basically the only military stuff that comes into play is the instincitve teamwork, and the mutual support when you're moving. With my kid brother or a civilian friend I might have to tell them to lay fire through that window so I can move up, but with one of my buddies they'll do it on their own initiative.
It's still good fun though. I find that the hardcore airsofters and those types geenrally take the tactical stuff more seriously than we do when we're out for a game of paintball- though then again they get half of it wrong, too. .
Reb, thansk for the support. I wasn't entirely sure if I was out of line thinking this guy was being a big Richard in some of his posts.
Usually if a bunch of us are out there we split in half so each team has a fair share. If we don't, the refs usually make us, LOL.
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Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 10 December 2005 at 9:51pm
Ilford Rule wrote:
Wow, my post actually shut "justice" up. Anyways, thanks guys for restoring this thread to it's true intent. Has anyone seen an SP-8 yet?
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No I left work for the day and yes my comments about the Canadian Army was stupid and I apologize.
Well at least the Mods can flame too I see. So is that a sign to keep
the flame fest going? I would rather not. I just know that when I grow
up I wanna be just like Brihard....Blowhard or whatever his name
is.
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Posted By: skruge
Date Posted: 10 December 2005 at 10:13pm
^^^ LOL
slipped in a quick flame.
i have came to the conclusion that the sp-8 is a great gun but it kind
of defeats the purpose to have a electro mil sim marker for woodsball.
woodsball markers get banged around and take a whole lot of abuse. not
to mention weather conditions. so an electro gun is like moving
backwards.
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Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 10 December 2005 at 10:42pm
Let me refresh that very short memory of yours Brihard about how this all started....
Posted: 07 December 2005 at 4:51pm
Justice wrote:
It's all for looks. I'm an avid woodballer and cant stand the thought
of using an heavy/loud marker, especially in a 24hour scenario on a
huge field.
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Posted: 07 December 2005 at 7:59pm
brihard wrote:
*sigh* and again I continue my crusade against people who cry about the weight of *any* paintball marker.
SUCK
IT UP. Go to the Gym or something, for crying out loud. It's pathetic
that people can't stand the thought of carrying a five pound object
around all day. Bloody hell. If the MilSim marker's that damned heavy
put a sling on it, or something, but don't whine that it's 'too heavy'
because it weighs more than your TV remote.
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I found that to be flame worthy and I took ofense to his comments
obviously directed towards me. If Brihard wants to keep thinking he is
the hero and all that, hey that's fine. But here in the real world I
see it how it is. If you would get off that pompus, stuck up butt of
yours you would realize you started the trashing up of these forums
with your wild assumtions about me personally, like for example my
family life, my work, my physical shape and appearence and so on.
Then the The mod comes in and basically condones this type of forum
activity and continues with the flame fest. Great work guys, yeah I may
look like the "jerk" but I know I'm not the only one here.
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Posted By: dmp4892
Date Posted: 10 December 2005 at 10:43pm
I don't understand why everyone thinks the SP8 looks so weird... it's a replica of the M8, a real firearm.
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 10 December 2005 at 10:44pm
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dmp4892 wrote:
I don't understand why everyone thinks the SP8 looks so weird... it's a replica of the M8, a real firearm. |
The fact that it's based off a real firearm doesn't make it any prettier.
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 10 December 2005 at 10:56pm
Justice wrote:
Let me refresh that very short memory of yours Brihard about how this all started....
Posted: 07 December 2005 at 4:51pm
Justice wrote:
It's all for looks. I'm an avid woodballer and cant stand the thought
of using an heavy/loud marker, especially in a 24hour scenario on a
huge field.
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Posted: 07 December 2005 at 7:59pm
brihard wrote:
*sigh* and again I continue my crusade against people who cry about the weight of *any* paintball marker.
SUCK
IT UP. Go to the Gym or something, for crying out loud. It's pathetic
that people can't stand the thought of carrying a five pound object
around all day. Bloody hell. If the MilSim marker's that damned heavy
put a sling on it, or something, but don't whine that it's 'too heavy'
because it weighs more than your TV remote.
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I found that to be flame worthy and I took ofense to his comments
obviously directed towards me. If Brihard wants to keep thinking he is
the hero and all that, hey that's fine. But here in the real world I
see it how it is. If you would get off that pompus, stuck up butt of
yours you would realize you started the trashing up of these forums
with your wild assumtions about me personally, like for example my
family life, my work, my physical shape and appearence and so on.
Then the The mod comes in and basically condones this type of forum
activity and continues with the flame fest. Great work guys, yeah I may
look like the "jerk" but I know I'm not the only one here.
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Fine, whatever. If an SP-8 is too heavy for your style, great. So be it. Your call. Posting that kind of complaint only really impacts on your own image, so it's not my place to talk about it.
If you want to keep flaming after the thread has progressed, again, so be it. As for me I've got better stuff to talk about, so knock yourself out.
That being said, I accept your quasi-apology about your comment about the military. It does take a man to admit his errors, and I respect that.
Now if folks could quite cluttering this up, let's get back on topic.
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Posted By: skruge
Date Posted: 10 December 2005 at 11:01pm
fine then, back on topic. i saw a couple of snapshots on the net of
accessories for the sp-8. i saw a single trigger for the sp-8. i think
earlier in this thread people were complaining about the double
trigger. i also saw a stock, rail kit, and scope that made it look
exactly like the xm8. pretty cool aside from it being an electro gun.
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 11 December 2005 at 11:58am
Skruge, tehre should be pictures on page 1 or 2 of this thread of the SP8 with the red-dot sight, stock and the barrel kit mounted for the SP8 look. The single trigger is new to me though- I'm glad to see they fixed that so quickly. Is there a replacement trigger guard as well?
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Posted By: skruge
Date Posted: 11 December 2005 at 12:10pm
well it looks that way from the pictures i saw. if i find the link again i will post it.
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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 11 December 2005 at 2:41pm
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It was the biggest waste of free time spart parts had.
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Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 11 December 2005 at 4:21pm
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Ok - message for the two children in this thread masquerading as adults (that would be Justice and brihard):
Stop it. Right now. My finger is poised and ready on the strike button. Your language is inappropriate, your demeanour is inappropriate, and, frankly, you are both setting a poor example for younger forumers. We have few enough adults on here as it is; it would be nice if the few adults we DO have could actually ACT like adults.
Shame on both of you.
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 11 December 2005 at 5:21pm
If a person goes out of their way to drift a thread to attack or offend me, I will reply to defend myself, always. Particularly when they attack the military, either the one I'm proud to be a part of, or any other deserving of respect. I do not, and will not take comments like that lying down, either now or in the future, and I will give people exactly the same respect they give me.
That being said, I posted my desire to end the garbage and move on with the thread several days ago, and he carried on nonetheless, which I basically ignored to let the thread get back on track.
As far as I'm concerned, it's done and over with from my end and has been for several days.
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Posted By: Ghostslinger
Date Posted: 18 December 2005 at 7:24pm
mods...pz lay off or u might stir up old flames again (although its been a week when i post this) and ill put in my comments. ive never had a chance tto feel or fire one and in my opinion it doesnt look that good
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 18 December 2005 at 7:31pm
Well, if you haven't held or fired one why try to criticize it? It's an Ion with a different body. Thsoe who like the Ion and enjoy MilSim should be thoroughly happy with this marker. Sure it's unwieldy or bulky for speedball, but it's not aimed at that market whatsoever.
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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 18 December 2005 at 9:03pm
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Way to bump up a week old thread.
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Posted By: TruePaintballer
Date Posted: 18 December 2005 at 11:59pm
lol...my late jab input...they are ugly/are an ion/overpriced
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Posted By: ANARCHY_SCOUT
Date Posted: 19 December 2005 at 12:05am
djrock wrote:
That is funny, why haven't any of my local pro-shops
ordered any yet? All they are is an Ion with a new body for
woodsball. |
SP trying to take over whats new?
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Posted By: eliminator
Date Posted: 19 December 2005 at 7:30pm
justice... i thought u were pretty cool untill u flamed people for bein in the canadian army and the na made fun at his name... ne ways i really don't like tha gun. its truly ugly! like ur mom... jk. realy im jokin
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Posted By: Ilford Rule
Date Posted: 19 December 2005 at 10:59pm
A couple days ago I was allowed the privilige (?) of trying out the
SP-8. It was my first time trying an Ion in general so the store owner
let me try that to. Pretty much its a lot heavier, and thats the main
difference. Also a WAY longer barrel (at 19" its longer then most).
Also, the lack of a front handle makes the double trigger kind of
useless, but if you used the single trigger mentioned above it would
kick... well... you know. All in all a good gun, i like the blade
trigger, but the Ion is better value/weight.
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Posted By: Mr. Spiffy
Date Posted: 20 December 2005 at 1:54pm
...I'll just stick with my Tippmann(s) . I don't know what all the fuss is about. I mean, I've never been a big milslim guy. I have to ration out money as it is and prefer to get upgrades for function over appearance. I also don't like making a marker look like an machine ACTUALLY designed to kill. I like to remind myself from time to time that this is still a sport... I hope .
But as for Ions and whatever form they come in, I've heard many a good thing about them. I trust then that this new incarnation of the smart parts econo-class marker is just as good as any on the field.
Interesting how other manufacturers finally cought on to the Tippmann philosophy .
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Posted By: eliminator
Date Posted: 20 December 2005 at 3:25pm
You Wont See Me wrote:
Way to bump up a week old thread. | this is an long time scine ions came out but.. did u sell ur a-5 after to get the ion?
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Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 20 December 2005 at 4:18pm
I traded (2) A-5's for an "uped" ION. Painted that sucker dark green and have been using it ever since.
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 20 December 2005 at 4:26pm
For speedball, I presume?
What upgrades?
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Posted By: Ilford Rule
Date Posted: 20 December 2005 at 6:15pm
Mr. Spiffy wrote:
...I'll just stick with my Tippmann(s) .
I don't know what all the fuss is about. I mean, I've never been a big
milslim guy. I have to ration out money as it is and prefer to get
upgrades for function over appearance. I also don't like making a
marker look like an machine ACTUALLY designed to kill. I like to remind
myself from time to time that this is still a sport... I hope .
But as for Ions and whatever form they come in, I've heard many a
good thing about them. I trust then that this new incarnation of the
smart parts econo-class marker is just as good as any on the field.
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I wouldn't buy the SP-8... It is really neat though. As I said, I like
the flat (blade) trigger WAY more then the trigger with the bump. Its
all personal preference I guess. Not good for speed ball, but at the
same time, its pretty easy to rip with this thing.
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Posted By: Mr. Spiffy
Date Posted: 20 December 2005 at 9:17pm
Well, obviously it hasn't convert me from my Tippmann preference .
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