electronic cyclone feed
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Topic: electronic cyclone feed
Posted By: skruge
Subject: electronic cyclone feed
Date Posted: 10 December 2005 at 4:59pm
this probably has already been brought up at some point but... here
goes... tippmann should come out with an electronic version of the
cyclone that doesnt involve using the blowback gases. it should fit
right where the old cyclone fits on the a-5 but should use perhaps 2
AAA batteries on the bottom. that way when you have all these mods to
your a-5 like QEV, or super r/t mod, WAS equalizer board and your gun
wants to shoot 22-23 bps and your cyclone is blending balls, you have
an alternative. i realize that the r/t runs from blowback gases. so i
propose if that new cyclone is made you can have a kit that takes the
air from the valve directly to the piston. wah lah, problem solved and
you have a kick butt a-5 doing speedball numbers. from that new cyclone
they might probably be new WAS boards to max out the speed of the new
electro cyclone. certain types of players might not want it because it
takes away all of the fun and "skill" of being a pure mechanical marker
player. i say, who cares. more options is the key.
share your thoughts. 
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Posted By: Uberhamster
Date Posted: 10 December 2005 at 6:03pm
The whole point of Tippmann making the Cyclone Feed System was so you
didn't have to worry about batteries. Why would they make one with
batteries if the whole point was not to have to worry about them?
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Posted By: skruge
Date Posted: 10 December 2005 at 7:15pm
it would be for the electro fans. and it would be an upgrade that you
can buy seperately. much like the e grip was a drop in upgrade.
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Posted By: HPD2
Date Posted: 10 December 2005 at 7:39pm
it would be better if they made an adaptor for electro hopers.
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Posted By: skruge
Date Posted: 10 December 2005 at 8:31pm
HPD2 wrote:
it would be better if they made an adaptor for electro
hopers.
| that wouldnt make any sense because the cyclone feed works off
of blowback gas which only allows it to cycle at a rate of 17bps. even
with the lp hose mod or qev kit you can get about 20bps but not without
skipping balls. the only way to get it to operate faster without
skipping or chopping is to redesign it and make it electric.
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Posted By: Uberhamster
Date Posted: 10 December 2005 at 9:52pm
Not gonna happen, guaranteed.
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Posted By: mytippyrules
Date Posted: 11 December 2005 at 1:38pm
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no it wont happen but i think itd be an alright idea...maybe allow it to go on other guns? but it is kinda big...ill stick with my halo b. lol
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Posted By: StunnA
Date Posted: 11 December 2005 at 4:45pm
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so youd rather have a taller hopper and same width? the cyclone is much smaller in realality if you think about it. But true, the only reason cyclone was made is for batteryless, quick performance.
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Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 11 December 2005 at 5:37pm
Old and useless idea and has been asked many times....and yes, it aint gonna happen.
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Posted By: Mr. Spiffy
Date Posted: 12 December 2005 at 1:04am
How would you make it electric and reliable...? I mean, maintainence and accesscibility to parts will have to be essential.
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Posted By: skruge
Date Posted: 12 December 2005 at 12:17pm
^^^ well, just like the cyclone feed now it comes off with just an
allen key. so it would be easy to remove and service. and once crony it
with the current set up of your gun you shouldnt really have a reason
to chop any balls.
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Posted By: Mr. Spiffy
Date Posted: 12 December 2005 at 12:20pm
I mean, how would you make it electronic? Is there going to be an electric motor or something moving the cyclone. Because if otherwise, then its more or less what the e-grip is now.
Maybe you're trying to synchonize it with the e-grips board...?
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Posted By: skruge
Date Posted: 12 December 2005 at 2:22pm
^^^ those are both possibilities. i dont know enough about electronics
to give an actual blue print. it was just an idea. but an electronic
motor in the new cyclone that would make it opperate faster than 17bps
would be great.
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Posted By: Mr. Spiffy
Date Posted: 12 December 2005 at 3:02pm
Well, my thought was, if this is practical, that an electric motor in coordination with the board could produce some impressive results. However, the cyclone mechanical components may also need some adjustment for the extra speed. I'd need to study how the feed works in the gun because if more balls could be preselected in the star mechanism, then the electronic motor might be more practical. Like you said, just some thoughts...
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Posted By: skruge
Date Posted: 12 December 2005 at 4:41pm
^^^ there are also some aftermarket internals for the a-5 like light
weight valves and hammers. and spring kits that help it perform at
faster speeds. i think if the electronic cyclone was made there would
be a demand for more upgraded internals. that would mean big bucks for
aftermarket parts manufacturers. should work out for everyone in theory.
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Posted By: Uberhamster
Date Posted: 12 December 2005 at 7:40pm
Except for the people that have to spend extra money for it...
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Posted By: Evanh
Date Posted: 14 December 2005 at 9:37am
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id say make it like a warp feed where it just slips the belt until the bolt is open and a ball can go in then slips till the cycle repeats.
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Posted By: Reaper6191
Date Posted: 14 December 2005 at 5:39pm
if they make an electric cyclone then they should have it universal, but i dont think tippmann is doing anything since the cyclone out now works fine in most scenarios. they dont have any reason too either, it would be a waste to tippmann when the same thing is already out, but runs on the CO2 or whatever it is.
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Posted By: m98AHA
Date Posted: 14 December 2005 at 7:58pm
I know this is probably a dead topic, but I just wondered if this had been mentioned. Why not take the motor from something like the HALO and then put in underneath the cyclone feed on the A-5, take out all the rachet work and all of that from the current cyclone. Then just use the motor to drive the current blades inside of the cyclone (or use the HALO drive cone). It would be a force feed, but it would still incorporate HALO's intelligent technology that senses a jam and won't bust paint so often and also be fast. It would make the cyclone taller, but it would be faster and cut out the whole blow-back gas deal.
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Posted By: henmar77
Date Posted: 18 December 2005 at 6:53pm
What they need to do is eliminate the plunger all together and make the cyclone work the way that they say it does, with air. They need to route the air directly to the ratchet so the mechanics dont get in the way of performance.
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Posted By: Smitty
Date Posted: 18 December 2005 at 9:15pm
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I'm not thinking it'd be a good idea. The whole "edge" of the Cyclone is that it's run off of air. If you're going to make it electronic, then it's just a bigger bulkier Egg. Not worth it, and I doubt Tippmann would make anything off of it.
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Posted By: henmar77
Date Posted: 20 December 2005 at 4:08pm
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the feeder would have to move in sync with the trigger. dont see that happening
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Posted By: Mr. Spiffy
Date Posted: 20 December 2005 at 4:27pm
Just a quick question, is the QEV designed to be used with the R/T as well? If it is, does it make all that big of a difference as opposed to an e-trigger addition to the marker?
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Posted By: sneaky_sniper
Date Posted: 20 December 2005 at 6:40pm
like stated earlier, isnt the point of cyclone, so you dont have to get an electo...?
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Posted By: Mr. Spiffy
Date Posted: 20 December 2005 at 9:22pm
Well, I'm not looking to make my marker electronic at this point. But, I thought maybe adding a QEV valve to the RT might boost the firepower a little bit. I just don't know if its only for electronic guns .
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Posted By: Uberhamster
Date Posted: 21 December 2005 at 2:07pm
It's called a super r/t. Search it.
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Posted By: Mr. Spiffy
Date Posted: 21 December 2005 at 6:42pm
Uberhamster wrote:
It's called a super r/t. Search it.
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I have, but from what I've been able to find, the directions have been a bit fuzzy. I know that in order for it to work, I'd need a hi-flow t-fitting with the burr removed (not exactly sure what's mean by that yet...) and then install it. I still a little inexperienced with upgrade installations, so I'm weary to start anything until I have clear directions.
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Posted By: VTpaintballer
Date Posted: 22 December 2005 at 3:44pm
I've actually looked into this, and trying a project of my own to achieve it, but its kind of sketchy and lots of modding is being done to make it possible. I'm 3/4 of the way there and hoping it will work i'm not sure , but i agree with you tippmann should make an electro hopper but then again it would be much easier for tippmann to just get an adapter to a normal hopper.
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