Question about a gun
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Topic: Question about a gun
Posted By: fang273
Subject: Question about a gun
Date Posted: 20 December 2005 at 10:16am
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Hello, I was thinking about getting into paintball and I'm looking for a gun, I want to play woodsball and i would rather be a sniper. I found this gun and I was wondering if i should get this or something else.(I'm not sure of my price range yet but I think that after christmas I should have around the price for this gun) http://www.xtremez.com/paintball/product_information.asp?number=GNTA5S&variation=&aitem=&mitem=&back=yes&dept=295 - http://www.xtremez.com/paintball/product_information.asp?num ber=GNTA5S&variation=&aitem=&mitem=&back=yes &dept=295 ------------- 
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Posted By: physcho_monkey
Date Posted: 20 December 2005 at 11:36am
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o oh
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 20 December 2005 at 11:38am
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It all depends on what you are looking for in your gun. The stock in that package looks all right, but the barrel is WAY too long and not particularly good. You are probably better off buying a stock A-5 and adding a good barrel, and then a stock and sight if you like. If you just want something that looks cool this might work, but it is not a performance package. |
Posted By: amishman89
Date Posted: 20 December 2005 at 12:13pm
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First off you dont need all that stuff. If you want to be a sniper I say you want a gun that is light weight. I suggest getting an A-5 of course but please dont get a humgo barrel. Any barrel that is 14'' is the best. You might consider a flatline. They are excellent for woodsball. I have one on my custom pro. You want a light gun. All the sights and long barrels are a gimic. Do your research. ------------- Only Hugh can prevent florist friars. |
Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 20 December 2005 at 12:54pm
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Hello, there are no snipers in paintball. Quit fooling yourself. Just play like the rest of us, nad you will be fine. ------------- 
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Posted By: fang273
Date Posted: 20 December 2005 at 12:56pm
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I'll probably get a normal A-5 and put a stock on it but what barrel would you suggest? I've heard that flatlines are a little too hard to maintain and are too picky on paint, Is that true? -------------
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Posted By: JawCrusher
Date Posted: 20 December 2005 at 1:07pm
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Lapco Bigshot and the J&J Ceramic are good choices. Both cheap and do
wonders with a paintball. Get a 14" of either and you'll be set. I believe the J&J is cheaper. Peep paintballgear.com for pricing. ------------- No Obstacles, Only Challenges ~Christ Krew Luv~ |
Posted By: skruge
Date Posted: 20 December 2005 at 1:18pm
ROFL... oh boy, he said the "s" word.  prepare to get flammed. ------------- Hail to all the nazis on this board. facism lives on! (sarcasm if you cant tell) nobody likes a 
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Posted By: Mr. Spiffy
Date Posted: 20 December 2005 at 1:30pm
Yeah... especially with the all those folks doing paintball stuff when they're not serving the military and police. There's another post in here that did a great job of defining what a true "sniper" is. Just remember to say "covert marksman" next time... ------------- Missing: 2nd star and 960+ posts to my name. -Another victim of the system. |
skruge wrote:Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 20 December 2005 at 1:40pm
That thread is by SR_Crewchief... Ill post it up, if this thing gets any worse. Instead of covert marksman, how about you are doing the same thing any other player does. -------------
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Posted By: A-5Mitch
Date Posted: 20 December 2005 at 1:45pm
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hey, if you just want a nice A-5 that will be deadly at a distance than look at this. http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Tippmann-A-5-Sniper-paintball-gun-w-Flatline-Pack-1_W0QQitemZ7204226116QQcategoryZ47254QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem - http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Tippmann-A-5-Sniper-paintball-gun-w- Flatline-Pack-1_W0QQitemZ7204226116QQcategoryZ47254QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem ------------- new A-5 user |
Posted By: A-5Mitch
Date Posted: 20 December 2005 at 1:51pm
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If you do get a flatline. GET A REGULATOR!!!!!!!!!!! ------------- new A-5 user |
Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 20 December 2005 at 1:53pm
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That would be an awesome Sniper gun, exept that there are no snipers in paintball.
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Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 20 December 2005 at 1:59pm
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Alright.
That package is a rip-off designed to entice new players to spend lots of money on upgrades that might look cool but don't help performance. The barrel is insanly long. It'd get in the way in cover and wouldn't provide any better accuracy than a shorter barrel. Length of barrel does not equal longer range or better accuracy. Get a stock A-5 if that's the gun you want, then upgrade it as you see fit. Get a LAPCO Bigshot if you want good accuracy(I have a jnj ceramic also, the bigshot is more than worth the extra $10) The standard preception of what a sniper does in the military can not be effectivly employed in paintball. All pb guns have about the same effective range, and since engagement distances are less than 50m with effective ranges of pb guns being about 30m tops, you're going to have lots of difficulty being able to shoot accuratly from a concealed position and get out without getting light up. Go ahead and try to play that way, you wont be doing your team any good, and even if you do manage that one shot elimination you waited half an hour to get, so you plinked one guy? Great, since your team mates who play an assault role probably have taken out way more players each. Kids who want to play a sniper role usually just want to avoid getting hit. Either because they think not getting hit means they're a better player, or because they think it hurts. Everybody gets hit in paintball, if you're never getting hit you're probably playing too conservativly. However, I'm going to throw the pb sniper wannabees a bone here. I know OS voiced this concept a while back, but it's certainly still relavant. The US military is reviving the concept of a designated rifleman. The designated rifleman is not a sniper in the normal sence of the word. He is an infantryman who is a better than average shot, using a weapon effective to a longer range than the standard. Usually an M-14, or SR-25 type rifle. The rifle isn't as accurate as a normal sniper rifle, but is almost always semi-automatic for engaging targets where the normal infantryman can't. He provides long range suppressive fire, and there is usually one per squad. The Russians have been using this concept instead of the normal western version of the sniper since at least the adoption of the Dragunov rifle, the US used this earlier on in vietnam with the M21 type rifle system. The way we normally think of a sniper is a more modern trend. Now we come to paintball. If you want to try this in paintball, here's what I beleive you should have. A semi-automatic marker with a longer effective range than a standard paintgun. This means a flatline or apex barrel. Now thats reall all that's absolutly necassary besides a slightly different playing style, but to improve on what you're doing, I'd suggest the following. HPA or N2 system for better consistancy. A remote and a stock if that's what floats your boat. Personally I hate remotes and stocks usually interfere with your mask. Some type of aiming device. That way you can adjust the sights to correspond to the center of your shot group and have a better chance of hitting the target with your first series of shots(screw the one-shot-one kill thing and double or triple-tap your target)Since theoretically you will be using a barrel that provides a very flat trajectory, the drop of the ball wont make this a total hinderance. Red dot sights are a good bet since you use them with both eyes open. You'll be able to get on target fast. You don't need an expensive one for paintball. ADCO sights are garunteed against paintball damage, so they're a good bet. BSA and Tasco types are better built. A normal riflescope has limited use. At such a short range found in paintball, you're not going to have a very wide field of veiw, so tunnel vision is a problem. With higher magnification, this is worse. It also can be difficult to get on your target fast. The only advantage is being able to pick out a target farther away and identify it. Is that a bush or some tool in a ghille suit? Are those red players or blue players? Are they wokring on a mission you can go disrupt? I'm going to throw in a third type of scope that I don't think I've ever seen used in paintball, but definatly think is a good idea. Long eye releif pistol scopes. These scopes are intended for use on pistols for hunting and target shooting and are usually low-powered and designed for short range use. An added benifit is that they're mounted far foreward from your eye, allowing you to shoot with both eyes open. This gets you on target almost as fast as a red dot but with the added benifit of being able to identify targets provided with a normal scope. If anybody tried one of these on a paintball gun, let me know. Also food for though: The XM-8 program has a heavy barreled variant meant to be used as either a designated marksmans rifle, or with larger magazines, a squad automatic weapon. So consider an RT for providing suppressive fire. |
Posted By: eliminator
Date Posted: 20 December 2005 at 2:33pm
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the better sniper kit is a a-5 stealth... after u get it jus but a red dot sight, do not buy the adco hot shot for the a-5 if u plan to use the standarad hopper it dose not fit right... ------------- __||__ [ }------ =() =() //' || R THOSE MY BALLS ON UR FACE |
Posted By: Mr. Spiffy
Date Posted: 20 December 2005 at 3:08pm
That's those of us on the forum who seem to have the inherent need to label these people as different from all us ignorant loud-mouthed giants crashing through the woods  . ------------- Missing: 2nd star and 960+ posts to my name. -Another victim of the system. |
Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 20 December 2005 at 4:05pm
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If you aren't looking for high rate of fire, adn intend to play in the woods, you don't need any expensive package. The factors affecting accuracy are barrel quality, paint to bore match, and consistency of air pressure. Open/closed botl doesn't matter, neither does rate of fire, nor the brand of the marker so long as it doesn't handicap any of those three. A 98C is a good place to start. The major benefit of an A5 is that it has a higher rate of fire, and is easier to field strip. The first isn't relevant, and I'm not going to assume you're an idiot, so learning to strip and assemble a 98C shouldn't challenge you. The stock barrel is crap. On a budget, a J&J Ceramic or a Lapco Bigshot are what you're looking for. A flatline is nice, but remember you'll need a reliably supply of good, small paint, and also celaning it can be a pain in thea rse. You WILL NOT get a flatline clean on the field- you need pressurized water to do a good job. A J&J may be your best bet; just learn how to lob and judge distance. I'm not slagigng the flatty, as I own one myself. Paint-to-bore match is a crapshoot; if you're dependant on field paint, you've gotta take what you can get, but with a straight barrel you won't have much of a problem. A flatline is where paint to bore becomes much more critical. This leaves air consistency. I'll assume you're running on CO2. If you opt for the J&J instead of a flatline, this should leave you cash for a Palmer's Stabilizer regulator. They'll drink CO2 just fine, and it's a huge improvement. I personally find a shoulder stock nice for comfort of shooting. Any stock will do, so long as it's the right length, but I'll reccommend one that folds or retracts. A carbine stock (M4 style) works well, but any folding stock will do as well. Lapco has a number of options. Folding and retracting stocks let you shrink your marker for movement. If you do get a stock, a remote line may also be a benefit. It's purely a convenience, and won't affect performance, but it gets weight off the marker, which can be nice, and will help to keep it more balanced. Alternatively you can get an end cap that turns the CO2 into a shoulder stock,though I personally find this unwieldy. Sights are something to be leery about. A wide aperature red-dot would be OK, but remember that a paintball has a lot of drop to accommodate. Forget about a magnifying scope. Also, wearing a mask, it's tough to look through a sight. To fix that, one option is to get a stock the comes up from under the pistol grip, where your air source adapter is. Blackpoint Engineering/JCS has a umber of folding stocks that attach to the drop-forward mount. Look for those on this site: http://www.bp-usa.com/98_custom.htm Be aware that such a stock would attach between your ASA and your grip, and may necessitate a longer air line (8" as opposed to the stock 7", and/or longer screws to atatch the ASA, but neither of these are expensive or hard to find. Witha 98C, J&J Ceramic, JCS folding stock (drop-forward mounted), PAlmer's regulator, and remote line you'd have a great woods setup at pretty much optimal cost efficiency. Under $400 for the whole thing, easy, and with a regulator, that's not bad at all. If you want to spend a bit of extra cash, the folding stocks I listed will elave room for your head so you can use a sight- but again I reccommend a red-dot sight at least 40mm wide so you don't tunnel-vision yourself. I hope you find this helpful. Brihard ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 20 December 2005 at 4:33pm
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I agree with everything brihard said, with a few notes: One advantage of the A-5 over the 98 is that the A-5 Flatline is superior for ease of use and cleaning. Unlike the 98 Flatline, the A-5 Flatline can be cleaning well in the field, and can also be changed out for another barrel between games if you choose. Another advantage of the A-5 is the Cyclone, which gives the gun a lower profile, which is good in the woods. There is a Cyclone available for the 98, but that point you might as well buy the A-5 to begin with. In addition to the Flatline you might also consider the Apex, which will work on either the 98 or A-5. It is relatively new, but appears to do everything the Flatline does and more. |
Posted By: fang273
Date Posted: 20 December 2005 at 4:44pm
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Fine, I want to be a "designated rifleman", better? Thanks for all the help guys, I'm probably gonna go with the 98C, J&J Ceramic, JCS folding stock (drop-forward mounted), PAlmer's regulator, and remote line like brihard said. Once again, thanks for the help. EDIT: Does anyone know where I can find a Palmer's regulator? -------------
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Posted By: Nickodemus
Date Posted: 20 December 2005 at 6:15pm
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A-5, Barrel, regulator or HPA with reg in tank, RT or E-grip with WAS board and JCS Double Trigger, lots of paint and time on the field. ------------- Think and give them all you have from the beginning, and never weaken! |
Posted By: fang273
Date Posted: 20 December 2005 at 6:59pm
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one more question, should I get a 98C or a custom pro? -------------
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Posted By: sneaky_sniper
Date Posted: 20 December 2005 at 7:12pm
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Posted By: sneaky_sniper
Date Posted: 20 December 2005 at 7:13pm
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Posted By: Uberhamster
Date Posted: 20 December 2005 at 9:36pm
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Custom Pro is what I have and it's GREAT, but if you're going to buy
all those upgrades for it, just save some $ and get the 98 custom.
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Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 21 December 2005 at 9:36am
I bought my gun from Famousguy. He has GREAT prices, I purchased an A-5, 20oz, RT and APEX for $500 canadain ($409.99 US) the problem was the UPS duties... I ended up paying them $130!!!  If you're in the US, find out exactly what you want, and email Famousguy asking for a price... INCLUDE EVERYTHIN and he'll give you a great price, but make sure you're in the US.... UPS sucks. And yeah, all that stuff there is stupid.... you don't need a stock and stuff like that, all it does is make your gun hevier and look better, but it will end up costing you games sometimes. ------------- Tippmann A-5 Polished Internals E-Grip Ape Board JCS Blade Trigger QEV 8" Bigshot + Apex Ricochet R-5 / Tac Cap Palmers Stabilizer 68/4500 Crossfire |
Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 21 December 2005 at 11:23am
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MY sweet setup that should pleeze ur need
Get and A-5, with r/t, lapco bigshot beadbalsted 14" barrel, HPA (i have PMI 72/3000 850psi fixed), 2+1 belt pouch, and HSl 3000psi coil slide check remote, get a stock if u want for added comfort |
Posted By: fang273
Date Posted: 21 December 2005 at 11:56am
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well for now I just have to wait untill christmas to see what my price range is. -------------
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Posted By: Twisted
Date Posted: 19 March 2006 at 8:45pm
| Im a paintball sniper and i rockkkzors pwning noobsss like wooo |
Posted By: Jman27
Date Posted: 19 March 2006 at 9:53pm
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umm why did you just post in a thread 2 months dead??
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Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 19 March 2006 at 10:19pm
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do a little research befor you buy something :p
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Posted By: Baewolf
Date Posted: 20 March 2006 at 11:59am
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A good woods ball Sniper gun, will be more or less somthing setup for
that style of play, my setup has worked wonders for me, and I have
traveled down the same path as you in questions. Don't fall into the
whole there is no snipers in paintball argument. If you feel like
playing a sniper style game and want a sniper style gun then go ahead.
The following might help, don't get discouraged with all the negative
comments. If you want to play a sniper style of game then play it, it's
your game. This is some of the gun that I put together Tippmann 98 Customer (cheaper then the A5 and cheaper to upgrade) Tippmann Remote Line Tippmann retractable stock Lapco Bigshot 14": barrel or tippmann Flatline Lapco Dove tail scope mount (raises a scope up and secures it really well so that you can see through it clearly with your mask on) Lapco hopper offset (puts your hopper to the side so it does not interfere with your Scope) Lastly a Scope, should be short with a wide view, a Tasco red dot is nice but has no magnification, it it has magnification, not more then 3X times, you will be shooting at things within 80 feet so, it's functions is mostly to confirm targets, and to quickly center shots, or to pop paint through holes in branches, only look through it when doing on eof the above. Also read up on Sniper tactics in paintball, which you will not find on this forum, try the following link, but remember stick to performance upgrades on your gun not upgrades for looks, a fake magazine looks great but has never shot anyone, if later when you have your gun maxed out performance wise, and you have money to spent buy some Mil sims if it turns your crank but not in the beginning, oh and http://www.countysports.com/ is a great place to buy these things http://www.specialopspaintball.com/articles/ - http://www.specialopspaintball.com/articles/ ------------- Don't bring a speed ball gun to a woods ball fight |
Posted By: Baewolf
Date Posted: 20 March 2006 at 12:12pm
Lol wow they sure put you in your place, So what do you say to your friends, when I play woods ball I am a designated rifleman, do they look at you and say, whatttt, duhhhhh I like painball Man if you want to be a paintball sniper style player then be it. There are others on here that feel the same way, they normally won't speak up for fear of going crushed like you did but, they are here. ------------- Don't bring a speed ball gun to a woods ball fight |