So I play woods ball with this guy...
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Topic: So I play woods ball with this guy...
Posted By: nrthsll
Subject: So I play woods ball with this guy...
Date Posted: 28 December 2005 at 7:19am
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Who wants to start a tourney team. "Ou know...to offset the cost of the balls, maybe we win some paint", yadi, yadi. I play weekly and feed 3 guns. Mine my 12 year old's and my 10 year old's. It sounds appealing. So we go to the local course. Afterwards this guy says he wants his team to be willing to shell out the money for hoppers, firepower, nitro, uniforms. Huh...so we're gonna have to win alot of paint to offset a $1000 layout for all of this equipment. He just bought a Spyder Electra. I've played with Spyders 3 times. All 3 times at some point the gun refused to fire. I like my Tippman...however. What I have right now is a Model 98. My wife bought it for me from WalMart. Not exactly highly upgradable. The question I have is, does anyone know if an e-trigger can be taken appart and somehow rigged to work on a stock model 98? I read the sticky and didn't see it in there anywhere. There is nothing I would like better than to hand this guy his backside with a lowly M98. All he has on me is firepower (and a little experience). I hold my own but it's not too hard to bunker someone when outgoing paint is an average 2-3 rounds per second and incoming is a sustained 15. KnowwhatImean? Thanks |
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Posted By: pbdude985
Date Posted: 28 December 2005 at 9:13am
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if you look on ebay sometimes they will have a model98 e-bolt for alse. idk if you can put a r/t on a model 98 , i think you would be able not 100% sure. way to represent your tippy ------------- 
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Posted By: Uberhamster
Date Posted: 28 December 2005 at 9:50am
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No, the E-grip can't be 'moded' to fit on a model 98. The E-grip only fits A-5's, Custom Pros, and newer 98 Customs. All these guns have different trigger/sear setups than the model 98. The model 98 and older 98 customs can't have the E-grip because they have the old trigger setup and their grips don't have the modded areas to hold the E-trigger. ------------- Stiffy2008- 'wat is a noob?' Yep, I lied about getting a Trans Am. |
Posted By: nrthsll
Date Posted: 28 December 2005 at 9:58am
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Thanks for the info. I checked e-bay. There is a used e-bolt currently on for a starting bid of 150 bones. Kinda worrysome to a cheap skate to fess up that kind of money for a used, untested (eta: untested to me. THIS e-bolt), unwarranted item. The R/T is a good idea, but if I really decided to rub his face in it and do tourney play on a different team it would be a problem. Guess if I'm really interested in putting a tippy in this guy's face I'm looking at a new gun. Prolly go with an A5 with an e trigger. But that defeats the purpose of shoving an entry level gun into his face. Ahh, the problems with being vindictive. |
Posted By: freakynorton
Date Posted: 28 December 2005 at 9:07pm
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Dont worry about your rate of fire...i play speedball with a phantom
pump. Its only against house league level guys but your going to
learn alot more about the game then dropping cash on high speed setup. My advice...get a good barrel kit(greatest affect on accuracy) and improve your own acurracy. The speedball coach at our field tells us all the time..."get good, then get fast" Plus your paint bill wont be insane. And just so let the finger walking fanatics know....team Blowfish play at at pro level against guys with electro...and do quite well. Hope it helps. |
Posted By: Tippyprouser
Date Posted: 29 December 2005 at 1:55am
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ya, you would have to do some modding to the two halves to fit in the r/t. but the r/t aren't tourny leagal (in most) ------------- Setup: Tippmann Custom Pro E-trigger 12" All American BT Folding Stock GTA Inline Expansion Chamber Kit Dead on Pro seal Cyclone Feed System Remote Line Polished internals |
Posted By: nrthsll
Date Posted: 29 December 2005 at 7:43am
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Thanks, Norton, Good advice. The sticky had a ton of barrels listed. This may need to be it's own thread, as everyone would have their own favorite. So, follow up question regarding barrels. Do riffled barrels make that much of a difference? With a missle shaped projectile like a bullet, I see the advantage. But with a ball, does riffling really increase accuracy? To me, it would be almost defeating to put a sideways spin on the ball. Isn't a sideways spin one of the requirements of throwing a good curveball? Anyone have any experience with riffled barrels? (I'll start a barrel thread if there is little response) |
Posted By: SuzukiRider987
Date Posted: 29 December 2005 at 11:23am
Rifling does nothing for a paintball. No added accuray is gained by having rifling. To read more on the subject, look http://www.automags.org/resource/tech/tomstech/03_spinning.shtml - here . ------------- http://www.macdev.net - MacDev Militia http://www.alienpb.com - Alien - Because winning is more fun. |
nrthsll wrote:Posted By: JediJak
Date Posted: 29 December 2005 at 11:50am
true real riffiling does not work but air rifiling as seen on barrels such as the smart parts progresive can lead to beter accuracy more for guiding the ball better than actually spinning it ------------- Tippmann Chameleon M98 Upgrades: 14in. Teardrop Barrel GTA Expansion Chamber 20oz. Co2 Pollished Internals Tape Mod Spring Mod Pic: http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tippy3qe.jpg |
Posted By: warbeak2099
Date Posted: 29 December 2005 at 12:38pm
You my friend have been duped by the hype-bug. The best barrel for accuracy is one with at least the first 6-8" of consistant bore size and no porting. After that first part of the barrel, another 6-8" of moderate porting is fine for noise reduction. That's it though. Spiral porting, rifling, blah de blah blah is going to do one thing for your accuracy... zipo! Nothing, nadda, zip, zilch, etc. And spin will actually hurt your accuracy! Don't worry, a lot of people get mesmerized by advertising. Don't feel bad. It's called the art of marketing. It happens in all industires. I mean, if people weren't duped by advertising and they made decisions based on facts and reality, no one would drive Ford/Lincoln/Mercury products! ------------- MIDN 2/C, US Navy LCE-SpyderMag | G-Force Pneumatic Mag | '99 RF Sniper II |
Posted By: freakynorton
Date Posted: 29 December 2005 at 12:40pm
having used a progressive barrel i didnt find any benefits other than cutting the noise down. With spiral porting or any kind of porting all your doing is equalizing the preasure in front or behind the ball. This does help slightly but can give no spin. Having it in a special patern cant "grab" the ball and make it twist like the lands(grooves) in a real rifled barrel. Every so many years the manfacturers release a "revolutionary rifled design" ...its just smoke and mirrors. Hope this helps. Cheers |
Posted By: JediJak
Date Posted: 29 December 2005 at 1:44pm
thats what i meant not that it gives it spin but it does help ------------- Tippmann Chameleon M98 Upgrades: 14in. Teardrop Barrel GTA Expansion Chamber 20oz. Co2 Pollished Internals Tape Mod Spring Mod Pic: http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tippy3qe.jpg |
Posted By: warbeak2099
Date Posted: 29 December 2005 at 1:53pm
thats what i meant not that it gives it spin but it does help [/QUOTE] Exactly, I like that term, "smoke and mirrors". That's marketing. Especially when you buy something from Smart Parts. They "stretch the truth" with their advertisements more than anyone else I've seen yet. Except when Kingman said that they invented the first anti-chop bolt. That was just a flat out lie. Centerflag and AGD did anti-chop bolts way before the ACS. ------------- MIDN 2/C, US Navy LCE-SpyderMag | G-Force Pneumatic Mag | '99 RF Sniper II |
Posted By: nrthsll
Date Posted: 29 December 2005 at 2:44pm
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Yep, yep. 'tis what I figgured. Thanks all. Scratch the riffled barrel. Thining about going with the ceramic coated (J&J, maybe it is?). Anyone tried that one? |
Posted By: JediJak
Date Posted: 29 December 2005 at 2:48pm
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j &j is good alot of this is personal preference and what size paint u use
------------- Tippmann Chameleon M98 Upgrades: 14in. Teardrop Barrel GTA Expansion Chamber 20oz. Co2 Pollished Internals Tape Mod Spring Mod Pic: http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tippy3qe.jpg |
Posted By: freakynorton
Date Posted: 29 December 2005 at 4:59pm
I had a J&J ceramic before i went to a J&J Edge Barrel kit on my Sterling pump. Both are great setups but i went to the barrel kit due to the fact that i have to use fiield paint and they are always changiing brands...grr :) The nice thing about a kit is that u get a perfect bore to barrel match which gives u great accuracy. No more of that pesky downward arc u get from having too big a bore. Oh, not to mention ceramics are almost self cleaning. |
Posted By: stealthy2
Date Posted: 29 December 2005 at 11:10pm
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Yeh.. If you want to really bust his bubble you could splerge and get an SL-68 II for around $50. Not only is it a Tippmann, its a pump. I've been looking for a Model 98 E-bolt for a while now. Haven't seen one. I belive they are different from the 98 Custom E-bolt, are they not? I hear they are much cheaper. I have a Lapco Bigshot and love it to death. I have the bead blasted version and it looks great on my Model 98. Its durability is almost unbeliveable, which ties in great with a Tippmann since they also have amazing durablility. Its accuracy I have not been able to thoroughly test due to me being poor and sometimes only being able to use field paint. Going with a group also somewhat prevented me from doing a few things like oiling at my own pace so I got some in the barrel, and thats not good. I will say though, when I took the time to aim, which wasn't very often, I surprised myself. One time I missed the target and I still raised my head in astonishment as the paintball flew dead on. And I did miss, but he leaned really far to get out of the paintballs way, haha. It was a good 40-50 yards away, so obviously he had a little time to move. My brother has a Smart Parts Progressive. Its a nice barrel too, although I haven't been able to test it at all except with CO2 and super cheap paint. So I can't give an honest review about it. |
Posted By: warbeak2099
Date Posted: 29 December 2005 at 11:13pm
J&J Ceramics are possibly the best barrels for under $50. And I've shot lapcos, cp's, etc. Just buy one, they kick butt. ------------- MIDN 2/C, US Navy LCE-SpyderMag | G-Force Pneumatic Mag | '99 RF Sniper II |
Posted By: xTippyx
Date Posted: 29 December 2005 at 11:33pm
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not any more i found all american barrels for 32.99 here http://www.xpaintball.com/smpaallambab.html - http://www.xpaintball.com/smpaallambab.html ok yea nvm i just read the whole thing its just the back part of barrel srry
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