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Topic: Speedball gun
Posted By: woods_balla69
Subject: Speedball gun
Date Posted: 10 January 2006 at 8:51pm
plz help me choose, thanks

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Posted By: Attila
Date Posted: 10 January 2006 at 8:53pm
well for me no brainer.  ion!

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Posted By: woods_balla69
Date Posted: 10 January 2006 at 8:55pm
lol ur name underneath is jokes..... but the ion is slower? and doesnt have CAMD display?

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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 10 January 2006 at 9:01pm
Iown pwns the rest of them.

Spyders are crap anyway.


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Posted By: djrock
Date Posted: 10 January 2006 at 9:03pm
Ions dominate all polls.

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Posted By: woods_balla69
Date Posted: 10 January 2006 at 9:05pm
lol why are spyders crap.... there faster than ions, jeeze, lol ions look like they belong in a game of HALO no paintball lol

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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 10 January 2006 at 9:07pm
The most important reason:
Ion has eyes, Spyder doesnt



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Posted By: woods_balla69
Date Posted: 10 January 2006 at 9:10pm
k im soo not a speedballer, wut  eyes?

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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 10 January 2006 at 9:13pm
Eyes detect whether or not a paintball is in the breech ready to be fired. If there is not one in teh breech, or more importantly, one halfway in the breech, the marker will not fire. This eliminates chopping paint

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Posted By: djrock
Date Posted: 10 January 2006 at 9:25pm
Ions are better than spyders, but spyders aren't crap.

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Posted By: woods_balla69
Date Posted: 10 January 2006 at 9:33pm

but the spyers have Anti Chop Systems lol

 



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Posted By: SuzukiRider987
Date Posted: 10 January 2006 at 9:36pm
Ion>Spyders. Nuff' said.

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Posted By: woods_balla69
Date Posted: 10 January 2006 at 9:43pm
guys i took out a player with an ion who thought he was all pro and **edited** with my ariakon overlord pistol! lol every ion player i have encountered is slow shooting and not very dangerous, boiz with electras and pilots wworry me cause there usually pumpin out 30 bps and shooting it very strait...

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Posted By: SuzukiRider987
Date Posted: 10 January 2006 at 9:46pm

Originally posted by woods_balla69 woods_balla69 wrote:

guys i took out a player with an ion who thought he was all pro and **edited** with my ariakon overlord pistol! lol every ion player i have encountered is slow shooting and not very dangerous, boiz with electras and pilots wworry me cause there usually pumpin out 30 bps and shooting it very strait...

No.



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Posted By: woods_balla69
Date Posted: 10 January 2006 at 9:47pm
yes.... electras shoot 30 bps, pilots = 20

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Posted By: SuzukiRider987
Date Posted: 10 January 2006 at 10:16pm

Originally posted by woods_balla69 woods_balla69 wrote:

yes.... electras shoot 30 bps, pilots = 20

There is a huge difference of being able to shoot 30 bps, and actually shooting 30 bps. I'm going to argue no further.



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Posted By: woods_balla69
Date Posted: 10 January 2006 at 10:18pm
lol its not an argument... my friend mike can send out 30 bps with his electra, and can consistantly do 27, there is a machine that mesures these things...... and he toped over 25.... (jus so u know when a spyder goes over its maximum bps it uncocks and he can do that when he chooses), u jus have to be quick with ur fingers... and he is, thats all im sayin

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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 10 January 2006 at 10:31pm
Originally posted by woods_balla69 woods_balla69 wrote:

lol its not an argument... my friend mike can send out 30 bps with his electra, and can consistantly do 27, there is a machine that mesures these things...... and he toped over 25.... (jus so u know when a spyder goes over its maximum bps it uncocks and he can do that when he chooses), u jus have to be quick with ur fingers... and he is, thats all im sayin
The electra has the rocking trigger correct? So its illegal in tournies and basically shoots twice for every normal shot. Therefore was friend was shooting at most around 13bps on a normal marker. Which is VERY slow.


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Posted By: Die-Trying
Date Posted: 10 January 2006 at 10:36pm
woods_balla69 why did you make a poll when it seems you have already made up your mind.....just because you beat a ion with a lower level marker that doesn't reflect the ion it reflects the player or a lucky shot.

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Posted By: woods_balla69
Date Posted: 10 January 2006 at 11:12pm
ye i guess ur right, and no, the shot wasnt luck  it was PURE skill lol

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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 10 January 2006 at 11:24pm
Figures, no comment.

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Posted By: sneaky_sniper
Date Posted: 11 January 2006 at 12:42am

wgp outkast auto cocker, i love them so...



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Posted By: yesr
Date Posted: 11 January 2006 at 8:32am
ion all the way man !


Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 11 January 2006 at 2:12pm
have fun fixing that spyder. 

Yeah ok, 27-30bps.... and I'm the freakin Pope.


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Posted By: whack-a-mole
Date Posted: 11 January 2006 at 2:25pm

Originally posted by woods_balla69 woods_balla69 wrote:

lol its not an argument... my friend mike can send out 30 bps with his electra, and can consistantly do 27, there is a machine that mesures these things...... and he toped over 25.... (jus so u know when a spyder goes over its maximum bps it uncocks and he can do that when he chooses), u jus have to be quick with ur fingers... and he is, thats all im sayin

What hopper is this friend using?



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Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 11 January 2006 at 3:52pm
Originally posted by whack-a-mole whack-a-mole wrote:

Originally posted by woods_balla69 woods_balla69 wrote:

lol its not an argument... my friend mike can send out 30 bps with his electra, and can consistantly do 27, there is a machine that mesures these things...... and he toped over 25.... (jus so u know when a spyder goes over its maximum bps it uncocks and he can do that when he chooses), u jus have to be quick with ur fingers... and he is, thats all im sayin

What hopper is this friend using?



25 rnd B.E.


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Posted By: FoRenSiC
Date Posted: 11 January 2006 at 4:55pm
Do whatever you want but the forum seems to say Spyders suck compared to Ions...


Posted By: djrock
Date Posted: 11 January 2006 at 5:00pm
Originally posted by woods_balla69 woods_balla69 wrote:

yes.... electras shoot 30 bps, pilots = 20

30 is fast. That is how fast an Ego6 can shoot.


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Posted By: woods_balla69
Date Posted: 11 January 2006 at 6:38pm

FINE!! ILL BUY AN ION!!! god lol, oh and guys if i buy from an american site then do i have to pay like border duties or some **edited** like that.... and wut site is the best to buy ions at?

 



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Posted By: SuzukiRider987
Date Posted: 11 January 2006 at 6:42pm
There are some Canadian PB stores out there. The best probably being http://www.badlandspaintball.com - www.badlandspaintball.com . But if you want to order from the US, or don't like their selction, http://www.countysports.com - www.countysports.com is good, and also http://www.paintballkingdom.com - www.paintballkingdom.com .

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Posted By: Cirabisi2009
Date Posted: 11 January 2006 at 6:51pm

Originally posted by woods_balla69 woods_balla69 wrote:

lol its not an argument... my friend mike can send out 30 bps with his electra, and can consistantly do 27, there is a machine that mesures these things...... and he toped over 25.... (jus so u know when a spyder goes over its maximum bps it uncocks and he can do that when he chooses), u jus have to be quick with ur fingers... and he is, thats all im sayin

they dont make a loader that goes up to 30bps... i think the tops is bout 23bps( and that may be pushin it)...  any ways havent you herd of "quality not quanity"  .... whats the tournament cap at nowa days anyway?



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Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 11 January 2006 at 7:56pm
^ I think the Halo with ups can reach in the 30's, right?

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Posted By: TruePaintballer
Date Posted: 11 January 2006 at 7:57pm
Ion is the best starter marker for a speedball team

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Posted By: Die-Trying
Date Posted: 11 January 2006 at 8:07pm
qloaders hit 31bps, halos are 23 max bps i believe

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Posted By: SuzukiRider987
Date Posted: 11 January 2006 at 8:21pm

Originally posted by Justice Justice wrote:

^ I think the Halo with ups can reach in the 30's, right?

That'd be right. The Victory board can go up to 35 bps. And just for anyone who doesn't think that you can shoot that fast with paint, you can. 06' Cyborgs have been clocked at 33 bps with paint.



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Posted By: Ilford Rule
Date Posted: 11 January 2006 at 8:32pm
Originally posted by Die-Trying Die-Trying wrote:

qloaders hit 31bps, halos are 23 max bps i believe


actually q-loaders (when freely unwound which you should NEVER DO!) can get close to 50 bps.

however, when used properly they go to 40 TOPS! 35 is more usual


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Posted By: County
Date Posted: 12 January 2006 at 8:43am
I prefer the Ion over the Spyder Electras.

I don't think the rocking trigger is illegal in tournaments. It's really just the same thing as using both fingers and walking any other electronic marker. The Electra just has two contact points instead of one but you still have to hit them each time so I don't think it really helps you shoot "twice as fast".

The eyes would be the main reason I'd go with the Ion. If you're trying to shoot fast, you need the eyes to avoid chopping. The Spyder ACS bolt is designed to collapse on a ball and recock with chopping, which is good, but I'd prefer the marker didn't fire at all until a ball is in the breech ready to go.

Another option to consider the Diablo Wrath. Very similar to the Ion without the interchangeable body kits.


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Posted By: Pooky514
Date Posted: 12 January 2006 at 1:14pm
Originally posted by You Wont See Me You Wont See Me wrote:

Iown pwns the rest of them.

Spyders are crap anyway.
i pretty much agree except for the fact that i would get a spyder fenix because those are the only good spyder guns......but ion is still better :P


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