My new A-5
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Topic: My new A-5
Posted By: Dark Sarcasm
Subject: My new A-5
Date Posted: 13 January 2006 at 10:17pm
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Hi I'm new to these forums and new to tippmann
products, but after some reasearch I decided to purchace an
A-5. I used to have a Spyder E-99 before this and I don't really
know much about the Tippmann markers or the better quality guns
themselvs. The games I interchange between are speedball and woodsball;
which is very new to me. I just recieved the marker today, it is
a completely stock A-5 and I was wondrering what I needed to play
woodsball in below 30ºF weather, and what I should upgrade in
general. I have heard that it is good to upgrade the barrel first
and thought that the Lapco Big Shot 14" barrel would be good for me,
but I would also like some recommendations. Eventhough the barrel
seems important, I really want for this gun to operate smoothly
during woodsball in low temperatures. I looked into expansion
chambers and regulators, but i don't really know what to look for
in these products in my position. I do not want overly expensive
equiptment, but i would really like some recommendations. Thank you in advance, -Tom |
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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 13 January 2006 at 10:27pm
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Welcome to the Forum, Well, The best thing to get to play in low tempetures is HPA. High Pressure Air can be used in any tempeture, without a problem. If you cant afford HPA I would suggest looking into a Palmers Male Stabilzer. THese regualtors will work with both CO2 and HPA. THey will also help with conistantcy problems that happen with CO2. If you cannot afford a Palmers Stabilizer, I would go with an Expansion Chamber. The only X-Chamber I would ever think about getting would be the Core 8 stage. Also if you plan on sticking with CO2, look into getting an A/S tube installed on your tank. That will help alot. As for the barrel, a Lapco is an Excellent choice. I have a Lapco 12" Bigshot on my A-5 now. I personally wouldn't go with the 14, I would look into a 12, or 7.5". All will have the same accuracy, however you will be able to squeze your marker into tighter space with a shorter barrel. ------------- 
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Posted By: TippmannPro13
Date Posted: 13 January 2006 at 10:47pm
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Snake6 wrote:Posted By: monty_sniper
Date Posted: 13 January 2006 at 11:25pm
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well, here's my artical over hpa vs. co2 and i'd say hpa would be your best bet. but hpa's not really cheap. HPA
You can switch Between HPA and C02. Names for HPA include Nitrogen, N2, and Air. Nitrogen and air are different, but for paintball purposes they do the same job. You don’t need any modifications to the marker to accept a HPA tank, as long as it is a high output (around 800psi) screw-in tank. Expansion Chambers do not help HPA at all, but don’t harm it either, you can leave you Exp. Chamber on your marker with no difference in performance. Regulators help keep the input pressure of your marker consistent, therefore preventing pressure inconsistency. Regs are not necessary for HPA, but can help out and make your marker more consistent. HPA works better year round than C02 does because it does not have to change from a liquid to a gas. You can’t put HPA in C02 cylinders because the cylinders for C02 are not made to withstand that kind of pressure. You can’t put C02 in HPA bottles either because an HPA bottle isn’t made to withstand the cold frigid temperatures of liquid C02. There are about 3 different pressure tanks you can get for HPA use. 3000 psi, these are normally made out of aluminum, but also come in carbon fiber, you will normally get about 700 shots out of a 68/30 tank (68 being cubic inches, and 30 being 3000 psi as a general rule you get about 10shots per ci). 4500 psi, these are normally made out of carbon fiber, and you will get about 1000 shots out of a 68/45 tank and you get about 15 shots per ci. 5000psi these are somewhat less popular than the others, and are made out of carbon fiber, you will normally get about 1300 shots out of a 68/50 tank and you get about 20 shots per ci. Before you switch to nitrogen you need to factor in these conditions, how often do you play, what kind of marker do you have, do you play indoor or outdoor, do you play in the winter, do you shoot your marker at high rates of fire. For example, if you don’t play in winter, and you have a stock tippy, its probley not worth the switch to nitrogen. But if you have an Ion and you play speedball year round Nitrogen is a must. Most high-end guns use nitrogen, and say never to use C02 because of problems with the seals and electronics. You may decide that Nitrogen is the answer, or you might decide to run C02 anti-siphoned and a palmer stabilizer is they way to go. Some good makers of Nitrogen are Empire Fuel, Macdev, Angel Air(low pressure only) are the more expensive, and some cheaper ones are Crossfire, Pure Energy, Nitroduck.
------------- 98% of ion owners think ions are better than any high end gun. If you would like to bonus ball these idiots put this in your sig. Proud owner of 3 guns and counting. |
Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 13 January 2006 at 11:44pm
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copy and paste monkey...
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Posted By: Dark Sarcasm
Date Posted: 14 January 2006 at 12:42am
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I forgot to mention a few things. First of all, I live in NY were
there are many paintball arenas but i go to play woodsball in VT where
I am most conncerned with my type of gas system. In VT it is an
hour away to get CO2 and I don't even know where to find Nitro. I
plan to spend alot of time in VT so it would be a very long ride to get
the Nitro. The other side is that Nitro would most likely be
cheaper in the long run and alot easier. One idea is that I could
posibly use a scuba tank to refill the Nitro but that too would be
expensive. Which one it most worth the money? -Tom |
Posted By: Zesty.
Date Posted: 14 January 2006 at 3:07pm
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If you want to be serious and play in the cold, you really need nitro/hpa. You can get tanks for under $100, but it would probably be better to look into something more expensive in the long run. Get the 12" LAPCO Bigshot, beadblasted preferably. If you don't have the money to run HPA right now, and you're stuck with using co2 as effectively as possible, try this: -Use the biggest co2 tank possible....it will help the co2 expand and help you to NOT suck in liquid co2. -Either run your tank on-gun/horizontally with an anti-siphon tube installed properly, or run the gun with the tank vertical/remote setup. DO NOT RUN BOTH, it will be bad. Run EITHER anti-siphon on horizontal/on-gun tank setup, OR vertical/remote tank setup....DO NOT run a remote/vertical tank WITH an anti-siphon tube, it will defeat the purpose. -Then you can look into expansion chambers or co2-tolerant regulators. Good luck. ------------- "People who see the future earlier than others are always feared and misunderstood." - Jose Canseco |
Posted By: Tiger Stripe
Date Posted: 14 January 2006 at 3:32pm
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If you are going to us co2 get a co2 ------------- <<Sig much too large>> |
Posted By: Dark Sarcasm
Date Posted: 14 January 2006 at 8:26pm
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I may get a cheap Nitro tank off of action village, 3000psi, 72ci
( http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=6z9WHbAQqBhWo_PZLEGWtbrZ-f1fASsShaw=?ProductID=OAKsFAY7hlsAAAD5MtFJBmGq - link
) but I wont be able to get it for a while. The reason I'm
going with the 3000psi is because you can buy a $70 scuba tank adapter
( http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.en%20finity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/DisplayProductInformation-Start;si%20d=DYJAKBhgBFhAaVupr-iAgBLGH0BJNPXb-78=?ProductID=Y6%2esFAY7v%20sQAAAD3p2%2elA_2t# - link
) that supplys air at 3000psi, being usefull in VT for woodsball.
I have also heard that an anti-syphon tube is bad in 20ºF or below
weather, which I may be playing in. I already have a 20oz CO2
tank wich is pretty big, I wouldn't go any bigger (even if I
could). I am not sure about a vertical tank, but maybe a remote tank in the future. -Tom |
Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 14 January 2006 at 8:34pm
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ZYou do realize that you have to not only buy the SCUBA tank adaptor, but you have to buy the SCUBA tank and find a place that fills SCUBA tanks.
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Posted By: Dark Sarcasm
Date Posted: 14 January 2006 at 10:53pm
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Yes, I know, I have sevral scuba tanks and know places that can fill them. By the way, thank you all for your help everybody.  -Tom |
Posted By: Zesty.
Date Posted: 18 January 2006 at 1:39pm
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Yeah, if you're playing in that cold of weather you kinda have to go with HPA. I also agree I really don't think I could stand a co2 tank bigger than 20oz. ------------- "People who see the future earlier than others are always feared and misunderstood." - Jose Canseco |
Posted By: prolitesniper
Date Posted: 18 January 2006 at 5:01pm
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i would say that your setup is good, but not for cold temperatures you would almost me better off using the stock barrel, and if you can get a hpa tank it would work best ------------- Tippmann A5 RT 16in J&J Ceramic 14in linear smartparts New BT Apex Barrel 45ci 3000psi Nitro System blade trigger 4+1pack |
Posted By: amishman89
Date Posted: 18 January 2006 at 8:32pm
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HPA is the way to go. Its seems expensive but is cheaper in the long run. Make sure you have the right type of paint. There is paint out there made especially for cold conditions. I forget the name somethimg like artic something or other. Good luck. ------------- Only Hugh can prevent florist friars. |
Posted By: Dark Sarcasm
Date Posted: 18 January 2006 at 9:29pm
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I'm definately getting HPA, but I will not keep the stock barrel.
eventhough the gun will be used alot of the time in VT, there is also a
speedball arena 15 minutes away from my house and I noticed that the
stock barrel is not accurate enugh for speedball so I will get a new
one as soon as I get the money (after the HPA of course.) The
paint I use is usually hi-grade paint but I don't think I will go and
try to find paint specificly for cold weather, but thanks for the suggestion anyway! Thanks everybody! -Tom |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 19 January 2006 at 2:30pm
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Go with the 12" Beadblasted LAPCO Bigshot for your first barrel, you will not be disappointed. ------------- "People who see the future earlier than others are always feared and misunderstood." - Jose Canseco |
Posted By: andrewc
Date Posted: 23 January 2006 at 1:27pm
| go to specopspaintball.com they have every upgrade you need and rticles about them telling you if they are worth to have |
Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 23 January 2006 at 3:25pm
Tom, if you really want to play outside in relatively cool temperatures, then your first upgrade (aside from a barrel) should be either HPA or a palmers stabalizer. There are other choices, but these are always regarded as the best. Do not get an expansion chamber, play stock longer and save for the palmers if you can't afford HPA or if it isn't available to you. As for barrels, you may consider the flatline, or the apex for woodsball. The apex is a better choice if you choose to play both. These are expensive barrels though, so i would go with the bigshot 12'' just to be safe, or the tried and true j&j ceramic. Those are probably the best single piece barrels for the money. ------------- Tippmann A-5 Polished Internals E-Grip Ape Board JCS Blade Trigger QEV 8" Bigshot + Apex Ricochet R-5 / Tac Cap Palmers Stabilizer 68/4500 Crossfire |