Red Dot Sight query
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Topic: Red Dot Sight query
Posted By: the_skdster
Subject: Red Dot Sight query
Date Posted: 26 January 2006 at 1:22am
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I'm interested in getting a Red Dot sight for my A-5. *note- please move to appropriate forum if this isn't the right place to post this. ------------- ~OTKer_4_Life~ The Gear A-5 ShinyInternals E-Grip w/WAS APEX PalmersStabilizer MP5CollapsableStock RemoteLine 42mmRedDotSight TacCap WarsensorTacticalVest |
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Posted By: Monkey Dust
Date Posted: 26 January 2006 at 7:31am
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I have that red dot site they are ok dont, use mine much.
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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 26 January 2006 at 7:36am
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I would get a 40mm at least. Also I wouldn't buy from specops. I have had several bad experiances with them.
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Posted By: the_skdster
Date Posted: 26 January 2006 at 12:34pm
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But 40mm cost soooo much... ------------- ~OTKer_4_Life~ The Gear A-5 ShinyInternals E-Grip w/WAS APEX PalmersStabilizer MP5CollapsableStock RemoteLine 42mmRedDotSight TacCap WarsensorTacticalVest |
Snake6 wrote:
Posted By: warbeak2099
Date Posted: 26 January 2006 at 1:00pm
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http://www.specialopspaintball.com/shop/product_detail.asp?SKU=251+0012&CAT=118203 - 42mm
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Posted By: TrivialBeing
Date Posted: 26 January 2006 at 5:21pm
I have the red dot sight you origionally linked to and it seems fine to me, the different light intensity settings are great, and the 30mm seems fine, though I guess it can make you vulnerable to tunnel vision. Though that is more oreinted toward the skill of the player. Depending on your style of play that sight would be fine and judging by the fact that you want a red dot sight at all I think it would be fine for you... be careful of tunnel vision!
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Posted By: paintballworm
Date Posted: 26 January 2006 at 8:58pm
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check e-bay, you can usually find the same stuff, only cheaper
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Posted By: the_skdster
Date Posted: 27 January 2006 at 4:04am
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i DON'T LIKE eBAY, plus i have no access to online buying. *your sig is grammatically wrong* ------------- ~OTKer_4_Life~ The Gear A-5 ShinyInternals E-Grip w/WAS APEX PalmersStabilizer MP5CollapsableStock RemoteLine 42mmRedDotSight TacCap WarsensorTacticalVest |
Posted By: Bruce A. Frank
Date Posted: 27 January 2006 at 10:00am
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My goodness, the dreaded "tunnel vision" has raised its ugly head again. Gonna say it ONE MORE TIME, how can you get tunnel vision with BOTH EYES OPEN??? Red dot sights are used with both eyes open and there is no magnification. You get about as much "tunnel vision" using a Red Dot as you get from looking over the top f your barrel!!! |
Posted By: Bruce A. Frank
Date Posted: 27 January 2006 at 10:03am
Try Lapco for a GOOD offset rail. And try Cabelas for a wider selection and better prices on Red Dot sights. Larger optics may seem like a good idea, but since you use the sight with both eyes open you aren't squinting through or having to align quickly with the small sight. http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/common/search/search-resul ts1.jsp?_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&hasJS=true&_D%3AhasJS =+&%2Fcabelas%2Fcommerce%2FCabelasCatalogNumberFinder.gi ftCertificateURL=%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Ftemplates%2Fgiftcertifica te%2Fgiftcertificate.jsp%3Fid%3D0005586990011a%26podId%3D000 5586%26catalogCode%3DIB%26navAction%3Djump%26indexId%3D& _D%3A%2Fcabelas%2Fcommerce%2FCabelasCatalogNumberFinder.gift CertificateURL=+&QueryText=red+dot&_DARGS=%2Fcabelas %2Fen%2Fcommon%2Fsearch%2Fsearch-box.jsp.form9&N=4887&am p;Ntk=Products&Ntx=mode+matchall&Nty=1&Ntt=red+d ot&noImage=0 - http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/common/search/search-resul ts1.jsp?_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&hasJS=true&_D%3AhasJS =+&%2Fcabelas%2Fcommerce%2FCabelasCatalogNumberFinder.gi ftCertificateURL=%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Ftemplates%2Fgiftcertifica te%2Fgiftcertificate.jsp%3Fid%3D0005586990011a%26podId%3D000 5586%26catalogCode%3DIB%26navAction%3Djump%26indexId%3D& _D%3A%2Fcabelas%2Fcommerce%2FCabelasCatalogNumberFinder.gift CertificateURL=+&QueryText=red+dot&_DARGS=%2Fcabelas %2Fen%2Fcommon%2Fsearch%2Fsearch-box.jsp.form9&N=4887&am p;am p;am p;Ntk=Products&Ntx=mode+matchall&Nty=1&Ntt=red+d ot&noImage=0 Specifically, if you want the 42mm at an excellent price ($39.99) http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0033536712309a&type=product&cmCat=search&returnString=_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&hasJS=true&_D%3AhasJS=+&%2Fcabelas%2Fcommerce%2FCabelasCatalogNumberFinder.giftCertificateURL=%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Ftemplates%2Fgiftcertificate%2Fgiftcertificate.jsp%3Fid%3D0005586990011a%26podId%3D0005586%26catalogCode%3DIB%26navAction%3Djump%26indexId%3D&_D%3A%2Fcabelas%2Fcommerce%2FCabelasCatalogNumberFinder.giftCertificateURL=+&QueryText=red+dot&_DARGS=%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Fcommon%2Fsearch%2Fsearch-box.jsp.form9&N=4887&Ntk=Products&Ntx=mode+matchall&Nty=1&Ntt=red+dot&noImage=0&returnPage=search-results1.jsp - http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?i d=0033536712309a&type=product&cmCat=search&retur nString=_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&hasJS=true&_D%3AhasJS =+&%2Fcabelas%2Fcommerce%2FCabelasCatalogNumberFinder.gi ftCertificateURL=%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Ftemplates%2Fgiftcertifica te%2Fgiftcertificate.jsp%3Fid%3D0005586990011a%26podId%3D000 5586%26catalogCode%3DIB%26navAction%3Djump%26indexId%3D& _D%3A%2Fcabelas%2Fcommerce%2FCabelasCatalogNumberFinder.gift CertificateURL=+&QueryText=red+dot&_DARGS=%2Fcabelas %2Fen%2Fcommon%2Fsearch%2Fsearch-box.jsp.form9&N=4887&am p;am p;Ntk=Products&Ntx=mode+matchall&Nty=1&Ntt=red+d ot&noImage=0&returnPage=search-results1.jsp |
Posted By: TrivialBeing
Date Posted: 27 January 2006 at 12:57pm
I agree that using a non magnifying scope does greatly reduce vulnerability to tunnel vision. However, I feel the need to defend my point by explaining that using any sighting system that is advanced past hand eye co-ordination makes the player focous exponetially more on their target therefore reducing their focus on their 360* surroundings. I also stated that this is more dependant on the players skill level, as with both eyes open you can train your conciousness to be more aware of movement in your perifferal vision. Where as an inexperienced player can get too "caught up in the moment" and will focus too much on making their shot on their newly aquired target. -------------
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Posted By: Bruce A. Frank
Date Posted: 27 January 2006 at 2:17pm
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So, you are a firm believer in the "spray and pray" and "blind fire" methods of target acquisition? |
Posted By: TrivialBeing
Date Posted: 27 January 2006 at 2:47pm
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Quite the opposite, I have a very accurate barrel, red dot sight and a semi automatic custom pro, I wear my hunting camoflauge and use team implied tactics. I figure there is only one hit and break that is going to count and get the opponent out so why not make it the one shot that you fire. If it makes you feel better we all know that tunnel vision is completley overcome by you and you have no need to worry about it, I also have overcome this. However, there are still players that succome to this and for them getting a red dot sight will not help eliminate this factor however as long as it is used properly I will agree that it will not create more of this problem and will only be an aid in consistency helping pull every ounce of accuracy out of whatever barrel they are using. *In fact I am looking to get rid of the overated (in my opinion) double trigger as I find a single trigger more comfortable for slow ROF play. I am wondering if we differ in our definitions of tunnel visionso here is mine: when a player focuses in one direction or on one target to the point where they become unaware of the location and movement of the rest of the opposing team, does not just relate to visual focus relates to mental focous and plannin also. -------------
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Posted By: Bruce A. Frank
Date Posted: 27 January 2006 at 4:16pm
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Our definitions are similar, we differ in that I do not believe such inattention is caused by or is exacerbated by the use of a red dot sight. |
Posted By: TrivialBeing
Date Posted: 27 January 2006 at 6:57pm
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I believe that the advantages of consitency/accuracy far outweigh the possible lack of focus that inexperienced players can succome to.
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Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 6:07am
I wouldn't get a 40mm, i wouldnt get anything over a 30 mm because of the hopper. On my a-5 and my friends cpro, there is a small piece of the hopper in the way. Anyways, because of the way a red dot works, it could be 10 mm and be just as effective. ------------- Tippmann A-5 Polished Internals E-Grip Ape Board JCS Blade Trigger QEV 8" Bigshot + Apex Ricochet R-5 / Tac Cap Palmers Stabilizer 68/4500 Crossfire |
Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 6:12am
Well, you may be right with whatever the heck it is you're trying to say..... but there is still absolutely no tunnel vision with a red dot, period. Tunnel vision is being limited by a small, round view from looking through a scope with one eye open. MAYBE it causes you to focus ?too much? on the target, but it's a completely different argument. According to your argument, the ironsights on any weapon would cause you to focus too much on the front sight. People who play with the equipment like, 2 times can figure out how to work it properly without bad results. ------------- Tippmann A-5 Polished Internals E-Grip Ape Board JCS Blade Trigger QEV 8" Bigshot + Apex Ricochet R-5 / Tac Cap Palmers Stabilizer 68/4500 Crossfire |
Posted By: TrivialBeing
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 1:54pm
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yeah, I began to way over generalise in defense of my point and we got completley off topic my apologies.
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Posted By: ReGuLaToR99
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 5:47pm
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Don't get any scope period.Throw your money out the window instead becuase that is all your doing.
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Posted By: the_skdster
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 10:54pm
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I'll be getting a 30mm a the least. The "hopper in the way" problem I don't care much for, because I'll be getting a Tac-Cap shortly. I've been practicing at Sgt.Sluggers the past 2 weeks filling/using roughly a 3rd of my hopper and I'm getting better at holding back my trigger-finger. So the "hopper in the way" problem will cease to exist once I get my 50 round Tac-Cap.  *after going fully remote, has found that long-range shooting has become quite inconsistant due to knockback. will now invest in an Opsgear folding stock* ------------- ~OTKer_4_Life~ The Gear A-5 ShinyInternals E-Grip w/WAS APEX PalmersStabilizer MP5CollapsableStock RemoteLine 42mmRedDotSight TacCap WarsensorTacticalVest |
Posted By: Bruce A. Frank
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 1:36am
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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 7:22am
I was not thinking of the hopper, I was thinking in terms of real firearm's. The idea of the larger objective lense, is for better light gathering qualities for lower light envoirments. But with a paintball marker, you could get one of those open sighted red-dot's. -------------
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Posted By: VimyRidge
Date Posted: 01 February 2006 at 1:37am
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My team all uses red dot sights and Lapco offset Rails. You can buy it for about $50-$80 CDN. Any red dot sight is okay, but be sure to measure it out before you find where to put it. ------------- "The key in war isn't to die for your country, but to make the othe bastard die for his". |