cyclone or electirc hopper?
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Topic: cyclone or electirc hopper?
Posted By: mikeyc54
Subject: cyclone or electirc hopper?
Date Posted: 28 January 2006 at 6:32pm
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im a noob so dont be mean... im looking to get an r/t for my 98c and i was wandering whether it was better to get an electric hopper or a cyclone feed system if electronic hopper list which one my price range is 50-70 bucks when you give your suggestion plz list a reason and plz do not use lingo noobs would not know thanks, mike |
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Posted By: mikeyc54
Date Posted: 28 January 2006 at 6:36pm
| plz help |
Posted By: jeremy v
Date Posted: 28 January 2006 at 6:56pm
| electric hopper cuz u can use it on different guns not just ur 98 |
Posted By: mikeyc54
Date Posted: 28 January 2006 at 6:56pm
| which electric hopper? |
Posted By: tecumseh
Date Posted: 28 January 2006 at 6:57pm
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I recommend the cyclone, it keeps up with the responce trigger and it doesn't require batteries. and all you need is a banjo or "T" fitting and your ready to go. ------------- what? |
Posted By: jeremy v
Date Posted: 28 January 2006 at 6:58pm
| and the hopper i would recommend the evolution2 because one of my friends has one and he seems to really like it and i hear there pretty fast |
Posted By: mikeyc54
Date Posted: 28 January 2006 at 7:00pm
| um wat the heck is a banjo t fitty thing |
Posted By: jeremy v
Date Posted: 28 January 2006 at 7:01pm
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it is a fitting that lets u use the cyclone and an rt |
Posted By: tecumseh
Date Posted: 28 January 2006 at 7:03pm
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view loader revolution "revvy", viewloader evolution 2, evo2, apache, halo b ------------- what? |
mikeyc54 wrote:Posted By: mikeyc54
Date Posted: 28 January 2006 at 7:03pm
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where do i buy the banjo, just at any paintball shop? and would i need a banjo if i got an electronic hopper? |
Posted By: tecumseh
Date Posted: 28 January 2006 at 7:27pm
probably and no. the banjo fitting is for gas operated system on the gun. http://www.tippmannparts.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=catalog.prodInfo&productID=736&categoryID=49 - http://www.tippmannparts.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=catalog.pr odInfo&productID=736&categoryID=49 ------------- what? |
Posted By: ninety8freak
Date Posted: 28 January 2006 at 7:33pm
| The cyclone does not keep up very well with the r/t. I would buy an electric hopper, ricochet apache. I have one, I love it. It will keep up with your r/t. Plus, you can use it on a different gun if you need to. |
Posted By: Monkey Dust
Date Posted: 28 January 2006 at 7:36pm
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I would go for the cyclone.
------------- a new breed of dracula!!!!!! |
Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 28 January 2006 at 7:39pm
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If you dont know the answer, dont post people(tecumseh). The banjo "T" fitting can be purchased through tippmann. Call them up and get it. ------------- A-5 E-Grip JCS Dual Trigger DOP X-CORE 8 stage x-chamber Lapco Bigshot 14" Beadblasted Optional setup: R/T Dead on Blade trigger |
Posted By: Joe Cool
Date Posted: 28 January 2006 at 8:03pm
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Go with the viewloader Evolution 2, its in your price range, its reliable and it is fast enough to keep up with most high end markers should you decide to invest in one. ------------- Life is tough, its tougher if you're stupid. - John Wayne |
Posted By: Die-Trying
Date Posted: 28 January 2006 at 8:12pm
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evo 2 they rock!
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Posted By: KlauseFluoride
Date Posted: 28 January 2006 at 8:58pm
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If you decide to go for an electric hopper, then the Evo II is an excellent choice. It's fast, durable and much more cost effective than a halo. I believe that it's rated to 17 bps with the stock Y board, and 23 bps if you upgrade. Both those feed rates are probably faster than you'd need anyway. As for the cyclone, it doesn't use batteries, it's more durable (feed necks and lids snap more often than a cyclone breaks in my experience), it's a little less expensive to begin with and even more so after a bit of use, 9 volts can add up pretty fast, and I think that it will be able to handle an R/T. And you can always speed it up with a QEV to 22 bps. So: Evo II &nbs p; Cyclone Price: 67.99(+ batts) 64.99 Speed: 17bps & nbsp; 15bps Up speed: 23 bps &nb sp; 22bps Can be used on other guns Permanent upgrade
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Posted By: JcKa
Date Posted: 28 January 2006 at 9:17pm
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What Klause said ^^^^ I'm not as technical as everyone else, but the question is: What are you gonna be doing with the response trigger? For instance, my friend tunes it up all the way and has fun at over 15BPS and turning it into a blender. But hey, its not that bad. He has a EmpireII, and its alright, I think it handles 13-15 at $50, which isn't bad. However, if you're gonna turn it up all the way then I'd get a electro, because then you can also use it on another gun. I'd recommend the eVLution II, http://www.discountpaintball.com/product_info.php?cPath=34_1 76&products_id=399 But, if you're just looking to keep your gun a simple, fun woodsball gun and not blast the RT I'd get the cyclone, its made by tippmann, u get the T fitting for free, it requires very little maintenance, its only 60 bux at a-1paintball.com, and its dependable. Do you have HPA? ------------- -Cobalt to White Sonic Cyborg --7 Piece Matchstik Kit ---White Suicide'd Halo B ----PMI Stubby w/ NXE Cover |
Posted By: Gerbil of Doom
Date Posted: 28 January 2006 at 11:39pm
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^^^^^^
Works for me. ------------- ProCarbine 16" Dye Ultralite Egg II R/T Double Trigger Red Dye Grips Remote Line Autococker as a backup w/6 piece J&J kit, eclipse ram, Worr Frame. |
Posted By: KlauseFluoride
Date Posted: 29 January 2006 at 10:03am
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I forgot to mention one drawback to the cyclone: the size and position. With a regular hopper, you can angle the gun to the side and hide the hopper behind a bunker (At least vert feeds, a little more tricky with a 98). A cyclone is twice as big a target as the EVO II, and when you pop out of a bunker on the right side, there's nothing you can do about the huge target. Popping out on the left is a little better, but it's harder to aim with the hopper obscuring your vision, and really hard if you're righty. However these only really matter if you're playing speedball, when you're in close quarters where the target profile of a hopper can mean the difference between an entire game. In woodsball it doesn't matter as much. ------------- Just to alert everyone, "Gun maintenace and repair" is misspelled. |
Posted By: Monkey Dust
Date Posted: 29 January 2006 at 11:32am
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Hmmm mabey not. ------------- a new breed of dracula!!!!!! |
Posted By: KobraII
Date Posted: 29 January 2006 at 11:44am
| As long as you don't really plan on going full auto with your Response Trigger, then go for the Cyclone. I have one on my Custom Pro w/ RT and it keeps up pretty nice. Haven't chopped a ball yet. If you plan on going full auto anyway, then go for an electric hopper |
Posted By: mikeyc54
Date Posted: 29 January 2006 at 1:52pm
| how do u go full auto with an r/t? |
Posted By: JcKa
Date Posted: 29 January 2006 at 1:54pm
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i think he's confusing it with an Egrip, or he may have seen a number of posts from people where they claim to make their RT comparable to the Egrip by saying that they can do all the modes that the E can do on their RT. Disregard those posts unless you like your paintballs blended.
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Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 29 January 2006 at 4:28pm
the cyclone actually brings the hopper in closer to the gun, giving you a better view and being less in the way. It wont stick up as much if you're ducking behind something. and the cyclone can easily keep up to i think about 17 balls per second. You won't chop balls, you'll just misfeed after that every few shots without the qev. ------------- Tippmann A-5 Polished Internals E-Grip Ape Board JCS Blade Trigger QEV 8" Bigshot + Apex Ricochet R-5 / Tac Cap Palmers Stabilizer 68/4500 Crossfire |
Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 29 January 2006 at 7:23pm
------------- A-5 E-Grip JCS Dual Trigger DOP X-CORE 8 stage x-chamber Lapco Bigshot 14" Beadblasted Optional setup: R/T Dead on Blade trigger |
Posted By: Nickodemus
Date Posted: 29 January 2006 at 8:46pm
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Cyclone takes no batteries and is good up to 17bps. If you want more then that you need a Q-loader or electric hopper. The electric could go to a different marker, but if your not getting a different one soon then that isn't so important. ------------- Think and give them all you have from the beginning, and never weaken! |
Posted By: mikeyc54
Date Posted: 29 January 2006 at 9:01pm
| um wat is a q-loader |
Posted By: Nickodemus
Date Posted: 29 January 2006 at 9:04pm
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Posted By: mikeyc54
Date Posted: 29 January 2006 at 9:12pm
| woah sweet how does it work and would it work for r/t and how much |
Posted By: Snopczynski
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 12:46am
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if you get the factory trigger feedback system or an electric trigger then get an electric hopper like a halo b with force feed. If you stick to a single pull or factory single shot trigger the cyclone will work great. ------------- Monkeys Throw Their Pooh! |
Posted By: mikeyc54
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 6:57pm
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what is the required bps for the r/t to work properly like give me an estimated bps for low quality bps for medium quality bps for fullest quality |
Posted By: mikeyc54
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 6:55pm
| some1 plz help me |
Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 9:44pm
The cyclone is fine for full auto, i'd trust it over any electronic hopper.
No clue what you're asking here dude... ------------- Tippmann A-5 Polished Internals E-Grip Ape Board JCS Blade Trigger QEV 8" Bigshot + Apex Ricochet R-5 / Tac Cap Palmers Stabilizer 68/4500 Crossfire |
Posted By: Snopczynski
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 9:58pm
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I was told on a auto trigger system to use a force feed hopper. The rt can be set up to go full auto, so I dont know if you want to run all that stuff with the air in the gun. ------------- Monkeys Throw Their Pooh! |
Posted By: mikeyc54
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 9:59pm
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i dont rele know either, im new to the sport, is their a required speed that your hopper has to be at in order for the r/t to work or can u just use a gravity hopper? |
Posted By: Snopczynski
Date Posted: 01 February 2006 at 12:09am
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I have an rt in mine, I got a view loader agitator. ------------- Monkeys Throw Their Pooh! |
Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 01 February 2006 at 4:39pm
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65.00 for a cyclone? Buhahahaha that's crazy. Get an EvoII hopper. Just be easy with the lid, they still tend to break. ------------- 
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Posted By: Captain Mordred
Date Posted: 01 February 2006 at 6:00pm
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alright....if you are going to put an electric hopper on a RT type 98 custom...then there is no need to be putting a Halo B or even an Evolution 2....just a simple Empire Reloader or Revolution (12 volt) would work fine....one of the field owners where i go with absolutely loves his Cyclone for his 98C....it's really your preference......seeing you have a RT one can assume you play woodsball yes? if you play woodsball, then the large profile of the cyclone feeder really won't make a big difference.....it's basically what you decide you like best
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Posted By: mikeyc54
Date Posted: 01 February 2006 at 6:08pm
| how fast does the hopper have to feed for it to keep up with the r/t |
Posted By: Captain Mordred
Date Posted: 01 February 2006 at 6:30pm
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it depends on how fast you shoot it.... let us see here... the RT can fire up to 15 balls a second the Cyclone feeder can feed up to 17 balls a second the Revolution 12 volt can feed up to 10-12 balls a second Empire Reloader can feed up to 14 balls a second having admitted to being new to the game i think it's safe to say that you aren't up to 15 a second yet....so you can pick any of them between $40-$70 and be pretty safe....and when you get better, sell them and get a faster feeding one.....however if you get the cyclone to begin with, you won't really need to upgrade ------------- No i didn't call for a paintcheck....oh that? No, that's not paint...that's...just the way i like to part my hair! |
Posted By: mikeyc54
Date Posted: 01 February 2006 at 6:37pm
| so a revvy would do the job almost to the fullest |
Posted By: Captain Mordred
Date Posted: 01 February 2006 at 6:38pm
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almost, yes but just as long as it's a 12 volt...the 9 volt is crap...feeds about 8 balls a second ------------- No i didn't call for a paintcheck....oh that? No, that's not paint...that's...just the way i like to part my hair! |
Posted By: mikeyc54
Date Posted: 01 February 2006 at 6:39pm
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can u give me a brief description on how the r/t goes 15 a second but i wouldnt go that fast i would only be around 10 i think |
Posted By: Captain Mordred
Date Posted: 01 February 2006 at 6:45pm
basically what the RT does it greatly lessen your trigger pull...so you can shoot faster with less effort.....now even with the RT, if you still have the stock trigger, i'm pretty sure that it's not going to fire that fast unless you upgrade the trigger...but that's an upgrade for later  ....i'd worry about the hopper (like you are *props*) and then a barrel------------- No i didn't call for a paintcheck....oh that? No, that's not paint...that's...just the way i like to part my hair! |
Posted By: mikeyc54
Date Posted: 01 February 2006 at 6:48pm
| so do u hold the trigger down and it shoots so many balls (or only one, i dont know) then kicks the trigger back out, or do people move their fingers at 15 balls per second with the trigger being kicked out really fast after each shot? |
Posted By: Captain Mordred
Date Posted: 01 February 2006 at 6:50pm
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people move their fingers at 15 balls a second with the trigger being kicked out fast ------------- No i didn't call for a paintcheck....oh that? No, that's not paint...that's...just the way i like to part my hair! |
Posted By: mikeyc54
Date Posted: 01 February 2006 at 6:52pm
| does it make a rele big difference like does it double the speed of some1's shooting |
Posted By: Captain Mordred
Date Posted: 01 February 2006 at 6:55pm
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yep...the trigger pull for a Tippmann is greater than most of the guns out there, the less trigger pull you have to do, the better ------------- No i didn't call for a paintcheck....oh that? No, that's not paint...that's...just the way i like to part my hair! |
Posted By: mikeyc54
Date Posted: 01 February 2006 at 6:57pm
| o i c i cant wait to get mine, does 60 bucks sound like a good price? |
Posted By: Captain Mordred
Date Posted: 01 February 2006 at 6:59pm
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60 bucks for the gun? RT? feeder? ------------- No i didn't call for a paintcheck....oh that? No, that's not paint...that's...just the way i like to part my hair! |
Posted By: mikeyc54
Date Posted: 01 February 2006 at 7:01pm
| r/t |
Posted By: Captain Mordred
Date Posted: 01 February 2006 at 7:02pm
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that is a pretty good price....getting things for cheaper is always a good thing ------------- No i didn't call for a paintcheck....oh that? No, that's not paint...that's...just the way i like to part my hair! |
Posted By: a5king
Date Posted: 01 February 2006 at 8:51pm
cyclone... ------------- shut up..or i'll blast ur a$$.... |
Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 01 February 2006 at 10:22pm
at the absolute maximum you'll most likely get your r/t to fire without mods, then 17 bps. Even if you manage to get your r/t to fire 18-19 bps the cyclone would work fine, but maybe skip a shot every few shots. Why would you want to shoot that fast anyways? I don't know, but if you need something more like 22bps with a super r/t, you can mod the cyclone for about $30 to make it fire that fast. I love my cyclone :) ------------- Tippmann A-5 Polished Internals E-Grip Ape Board JCS Blade Trigger QEV 8" Bigshot + Apex Ricochet R-5 / Tac Cap Palmers Stabilizer 68/4500 Crossfire |
Posted By: JawCrusher
Date Posted: 02 February 2006 at 12:34pm
If you're talking about the R/T this is not completely true. The R/T makes it so the trigger rebounds off of the pressure from your finger. So w/out your finger's pressure the R/T wouldn't work. Think of it more like the trigger rebounding off your finger. Sure it theoretically is your finger moving at 15 balls per second but it is assisted GREATLY. ------------- No Obstacles, Only Challenges ~Christ Krew Luv~ |
Posted By: Ilford Rule
Date Posted: 02 February 2006 at 9:05pm
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Quick thing here: you have a 98. The 98 has an elbow. Correct me if im
wrong, but doesnt the elbow on a 98 slow the Egg2 down to 13/14 bps?
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CCI Phantom 45 Grips |
Posted By: XLR8P8NTB411
Date Posted: 22 March 2006 at 7:35pm
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CYCLONE ALL THE WAY!! Btw .. u mentioned a HaloB for a electronic hopper(i couldnt find it agian) he said price range was 40-70 LOL ------------- Playing a speedball game at local course owned by a friend... A kid says the ball bounced off a tree.. Go figure |
Posted By: Crayzeeasian
Date Posted: 03 June 2006 at 9:51pm
| definatley go elctric hopper. You can use on other guns and if you get a good one you won't have any issues wiht it keeping up. plus the cyclone feed eats up alot of air and its big and hard to hide from paintballs flying everywhere. |
Posted By: MoNkeY Hunter
Date Posted: 03 June 2006 at 10:04pm
| Cyclone for sure! Im geting one for my CP E A.C.T. |
Posted By: tecumseh
Date Posted: 04 June 2006 at 12:02am
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yeai t does,thats why most people buy a vertical feed ------------- what? |
Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 04 June 2006 at 12:08pm
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you guys do realize this is 6 months old....
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Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 04 June 2006 at 12:14pm
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Iv got a t/r and cyclone and shot 2500 balls yesterday not a single
break goin full defintly go cyclone cause it only feeds when you shoot
so i love mine.
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Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 04 June 2006 at 5:33pm
Yes that cyclone get very annoying. I mean VERY annoying. Its like having a target on your gun that you just can't hide. And if you try your going to have to stick your head out more. ------------- 
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