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Topic: Sraight flatline....
Posted By: Monkey Dust
Subject: Sraight flatline....
Date Posted: 29 January 2006 at 2:38pm

what do you think of the hop up barrel... Uses the same princible as the flatline?



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Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 29 January 2006 at 3:25pm
It's called the Apex. It's made by Ben Tippmann.


Posted By: Monkey Dust
Date Posted: 29 January 2006 at 3:53pm
No its not its call a Hop up barrel they are on the armotech guns.

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Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 29 January 2006 at 4:25pm
Originally posted by Monkey Dust Monkey Dust wrote:

what do you think of the hop up barrel... Uses the same princible as the flatline?



it has ridges in it, so that air can flow under the ball to spin it.


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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 29 January 2006 at 4:37pm
I've heard good thigns about the hop-up. Apparently distance is comparable to the flatline, with somewhat favourable accuracy over the flatty. Also remember that a well-tuned 98 flatty will get better perfoemance than an A5.

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Posted By: Evintos
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 12:31am
Different principle than the flatline but results are similiar.

Distance is comparable to a flatline. Accuracy is better than an A5 flatline at 100ft. Accuracy from 110+ft is pretty negligible.

I own a WarSensor WS66 (well, I'm selling it) and it's a pretty interesting how it works. Given it's design, I would expect it to shoot curves when tilted to the side (like that of the Tippmann Flatline), for some reason, it does not. Can't quite explain it.


Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 5:06am
Originally posted by Evintos Evintos wrote:

Different principle than the flatline but results are similiar.

Distance is comparable to a flatline. Accuracy is better than an A5 flatline at 100ft. Accuracy from 110+ft is pretty negligible.

I own a WarSensor WS66 (well, I'm selling it) and it's a pretty interesting how it works. Given it's design, I would expect it to shoot curves when tilted to the side (like that of the Tippmann Flatline), for some reason, it does not. Can't quite explain it.


It must be because the design fails to spin the ball to the same degree as the flatline.


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Posted By: Evintos
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 11:36am
Makes you wonder though. The hopup barrel gets comparable distance to that of an A5 flatline (I'm assuming it's the same for the 98 flatline, I don't know anyone with a 98c/flatline setup).

Could the Tippmann flatline be further improved to impart a spin that achieves the same distance but with less of a degree of spin?

Maybe a new flatline barrel designed should be in the works (non-apex barrel).


Posted By: Monkey Dust
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 2:18pm

The flatlin has become obsolete.



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Posted By: Monkey Dust
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 2:21pm
The flatline has become obsolete.

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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 2:39pm
Dont double post, and no it hasnt. Untilly it is fully schooled, by more than the apex, I dont think it will be obsolete.


Posted By: Monkey Dust
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 3:19pm
I didn't mean it calm down winston.

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Posted By: ninety8freak
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 5:51pm

Then why did you say it?^ You had no hint of having sarcasm in that.



Posted By: Monkey Dust
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 5:53pm

I didn't mean to double post. I ment what i says... Man some people are anal.



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Posted By: Scotchbroth
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 6:30pm
Calm down Winston.

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Posted By: Monkey Dust
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 6:49pm

How good is still game.



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Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 9:36pm
PM sent


Posted By: Rock Slide
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 1:22am

Originally posted by brihard brihard wrote:

Also remember that a well-tuned 98 flatty will get better perfoemance than an A5.

How's that???  I gotta hear the explanation of this one...  



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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 1:58am

i still favor smooth bore.  i play tourney and speed and i tilt my marker into the bunker.  this would throw a flatline off.  I think the hop-up might be the next barrel type of the woods-scenario world though.



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Posted By: Cirabisi2009
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 1:42pm

Originally posted by Monkey Dust Monkey Dust wrote:

The flatline has become obsolete.

 

how so????

 



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Posted By: Monkey Dust
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 2:11pm

Because there are barrels like big shot jnj and AA.

The flatline just dosent have the accuracy to compete with these barrels, also it is so much more pricey than them. I have used a flatline since i started playing paintball. Now i use a jnj as it is way superior in accuracy and nearly the same in range.



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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 2:19pm
Haha, nearly the same in range? Whats wrong with your flatline?


Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 2:20pm
Originally posted by Monkey Dust Monkey Dust wrote:

Because there are barrels like big shot jnj and AA.

The flatline just dosent have the accuracy to compete with these barrels, also it is so much more pricey than them. I have used a flatline since i started playing paintball. Now i use a jnj as it is way superior in accuracy and nearly the same in range.

shens.  you just think it's the same in range.  all smooth bored straight barrels shoot the same distance.  the flatline has one purpose: shoot further than the other barrels while being somewhat accurate.

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Posted By: Monkey Dust
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 2:22pm

Th flatlin sucks plain and simple.

whats wrong with my flatline...The design.



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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 2:38pm
Haha, nice try there, but from your history on this forum, you have no credibility, so I'll take the hundreds and hundreds of positive reviews, and actual testing over your opinion.


Posted By: Monkey Dust
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 2:44pm

Fin i am just saying that i will never use a flatline again.



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Posted By: Zebulon
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 3:02pm
I love my flatline. It rocks.

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Posted By: Yomillio
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 6:34pm

Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Haha, nice try there, but from your history on this forum, you have no credibility, so I'll take the hundreds and hundreds of positive reviews, and actual testing over your opinion.

I like flatlines, everyone I've used has kicked butt.



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Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 8:04pm
back to the hop up...they can be bought seperatley write...?

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Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 9:33pm
Originally posted by Monkey Dust Monkey Dust wrote:

Because there are barrels like big shot jnj and AA.

The flatline just dosent have the accuracy to compete with these barrels, also it is so much more pricey than them. I have used a flatline since i started playing paintball. Now i use a jnj as it is way superior in accuracy and nearly the same in range.



Actually, in a no-wind scenario when the gun is being held steady and straight (so it's perfectly backspin and no sidespin) the flatline is more accurate than most straight barrels by a few inches at 100 ft.  The problem with this is if you play outdoors, but I'd assume that most innaccuracy of the flatline is because it isn't held level enough, but that will be a problem with any flat-trajectory barrel, until they create some kind of automatic gravity adjusted barrel which would always keep the barrel straight, but I don't see that happening.


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Posted By: Evintos
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 11:04pm
Originally posted by jerseypaint jerseypaint wrote:

back to the hop up...they can be bought seperatley write...?


Nope - threaded barrels would have a hard time with hop up, mainly because the grooves on the hop up barrel has to be at the 11, 12 and 1 o'clock position. Obviously, threaded barrels would make this hard. I suppose if you can do it correctly you can have a threaded barrel with the grooves in the correct position.

Non-threaded barrels would work - like for the automag or the marker it was designed for - the WS66.


Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 01 February 2006 at 4:43pm
Originally posted by Rock Slide Rock Slide wrote:

Originally posted by brihard brihard wrote:

Also remember that a well-tuned 98 flatty will get better perfoemance than an A5.

How's that???  I gotta hear the explanation of this one...  



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Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 01 February 2006 at 9:20pm
Originally posted by Evintos Evintos wrote:

Originally posted by jerseypaint jerseypaint wrote:

back to the hop up...they can be bought seperatley write...?


Nope - threaded barrels would have a hard time with hop up, mainly because the grooves on the hop up barrel has to be at the 11, 12 and 1 o'clock position. Obviously, threaded barrels would make this hard. I suppose if you can do it correctly you can have a threaded barrel with the grooves in the correct position.

Non-threaded barrels would work - like for the automag or the marker it was designed for - the WS66.
Or a flatline type adapter that you can insert the barrel in and tighten it down once you get it lined up.



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