Air hogs
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Topic: Air hogs
Posted By: Wildgoat
Subject: Air hogs
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 6:58pm
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Well I played this weekend finaly after having this gun for a little over 2 weeks. There was 2 other A-5s there along with mine we all had R/Ts. We went through gas like crazy. I averaged close to a thousand balls on 2 20oz. tanks. One of the other guys ran out quick with his 68 ci. tank he shot close to 500 rounds. We all had our tanks full before playing. The spyders that were there were still gased and ready to go even the guy with the 14oz tank. He fired many shots and lasted all 8 games. I never relized how much air the feed system and R/t was going to use when purchasing this gun. I'm waiting for my barrel kit to come UPS so I can definatly replace the flatline. Shooting between trees about 50 feet away and about a foot apart was next to impossible. I also would like to mention the other guy who played with his A-5 showed up late and was there only for the last three games but nearly used up his 20oz. tank. I'll give him props for his palmer stabilizer and his Endgame supression barrel. Wow that was one quiet barrel and the accuracy was great too. ------------- 
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 7:22pm
| And your question is...? |
Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 7:25pm
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hybrid-sniper wrote:Posted By: Wildgoat
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 7:49pm
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I guess the question is any feedback on gas efficency or is the A-5 just a Gas hog and thats that. -------------
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 7:59pm
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Some people get great efficinency from their A-5s, others, like yourself, get terrible efficiency. |
Posted By: SuzukiRider987
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 9:53pm
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Both the R/T and Cyclone use blowback air. So that's not whats causing you problems. But Tippmanns are just overall gas hogs. ------------- http://www.macdev.net - MacDev Militia http://www.alienpb.com - Alien - Because winning is more fun. |
Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 10:01pm
| 1000 shots from a 20oz CO2 isn't really bad for an A-5. 500 off a 68ci isn't great(below average for a 300psi tank, really bad for a 4500psi) but your gas usage could be from many factors. Since they have RT's, chances are good you're shooting faster, and with CO2 this leads to worse efficiency. You could probably get better efficiency with a reg. I'm guessing the guy with the spyder probably didn't fire as much as you guys did, or he had upgraded the gun quite a bit. |
Posted By: SuzukiRider987
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 10:16pm
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No, it's not... Too bad he said from (2) 20 oz.'s. Heck, if I get 1000 from a 20oz. on my 98c, I'm happy. But 500 from (1), that's not good, not good at all. ------------- http://www.macdev.net - MacDev Militia http://www.alienpb.com - Alien - Because winning is more fun. |
Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 10:17pm
Air hogs are flying airplanes pumped up by air. Your A-5 is definatly not an air hog. ------------- A-5 E-Grip JCS Dual Trigger DOP X-CORE 8 stage x-chamber Lapco Bigshot 14" Beadblasted Optional setup: R/T Dead on Blade trigger |
Posted By: Rock Slide
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 1:10am
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The A-5 has always been a bit of a gas hog. It improves a bit the longer you use it but not by much. That's why I got a 20# siphon tank and fill my own... For $12 I can fill my 20# tank at the local welding shop and then fill my own 20oz. tanks off of that. Saves a TON of money. ------------- I bring annihilation and cheap red wine! |
Posted By: karnivor
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 8:34pm
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well... paintball guns useing more gas than other paintball gun... my theory is this:
1.you shoot more 2.velocity either of these has a factor in the amount of air you use... even though with the flatline it takes more air to push the paintball out of the barrel b/c of the curved nature of the barrel... you have many things to look at... what was your velocity?? with the flatline, if you have the velocity above 265 it shoots like crap... my velocity on mine is at 260 and it shoots great and i get about 750 per 20oz tank... i have a flatline, and a new bolt and powertube... p.s. the cyclone feed system uses the excess gas from the blowback of the hammer i thought>...and i never liked the response.... ------------- http://imageshack.us"> 
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Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 9:25pm
Doesn't a tippmann use the same amount of gas regardless of cyclone, rt, and velocity settings when the gun is mostly stock? I mean, the velocity screw disrupts the flow, it doesn't allow less gas to go through the marker... ANYWAYS, polish your internals and see if it helps. Also, if it was cold when you were playing, you'll get less shots. Another thing, unless you fill your own tank, you can't be sure if it is filled all the way. Many paintball fields underfill tanks just because they don't care. That may be the reason why your friend's air tank ran out quickly too. ------------- Tippmann A-5 Polished Internals E-Grip Ape Board JCS Blade Trigger QEV 8" Bigshot + Apex Ricochet R-5 / Tac Cap Palmers Stabilizer 68/4500 Crossfire |
Posted By: clownshooter
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 10:25pm
| You might also want to check for small air leaks with some soapy water solution. |
Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 31 January 2006 at 10:34pm
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Posted By: trulyoldnavy
Date Posted: 01 February 2006 at 3:36am
| I'ld have to disagree, more velocity = higher rate of gas usage. It's just simple physics. The same goes for the cyclon and RT. Yes, they use "blowback gas", but this has to come from somewhere. If you set your velocity at 280 with the RT and cyclone connected then install the shutoff plug your velocity will increase. The gas has to go somewhere, and some of it is heading out the barrel. As for the A-5, it is historically a high gas user. There are things you can do to reduce this, such as polishing the internals, expansion chamber and anti-siphoned tank. Contrary to some peoples opinion, CA does not improve efficiency, only velocity stability. |
Posted By: Ilford Rule
Date Posted: 01 February 2006 at 5:20pm
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What are you talking about (more velocity = higher usage). This is true
on any marker except a Tippmann ( i think tippmanns are the only ones).
Most markers adjust the amount of air flowing through. Tippmanns dont.
They disrupt the air flowing through the power tube. Thats what the
velocity screw does. Next time your going to write something, make sure
you know what your talking about. Also, the RT and Cylcone do NOT use
more gas. They use gas thats already coming out of the powertube. The
gas pushes the ball through the barrel, but it doesnt disappear. the
gas that remains in the chamber/powertube goes through the gas line
into your RT and Cyclone. Next time, do some research. It will go a long way. ------------- CPro (w/ polished internals) 14" Bigshot BT SBS Various Rails NcSTAR D4B Macro AA 68/45 
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 01 February 2006 at 6:30pm
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I'm pretty sure that the flow of air has almost nothing to do with physics. Second of all, you are wrong when this subject is applied to regular Tippmanns. |
Posted By: XLR8P8NTB411
Date Posted: 22 March 2006 at 7:22pm
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True dat ------------- Playing a speedball game at local course owned by a friend... A kid says the ball bounced off a tree.. Go figure |
Posted By: the flanker
Date Posted: 22 March 2006 at 7:28pm
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how do you check for air leaks???? ------------- 
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Posted By: Stormcharger
Date Posted: 23 March 2006 at 2:36pm
Actually air flow is all about physics. But otherwise absolutly correct in reguard to Tippmann markers. |
Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 23 March 2006 at 2:47pm
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RT+CO2 = bad efficiency. When shooting at high rates of fire your efficiency drops with CO2. This can be helped with x-chambers, regulators, remotes, etc., but shooting fast with CO2 will always reduce efficiency. If you plan on shooting fast forever, you should look into nitro. ------------- [IMG]http://i38.tinypic.com/aag8s8.jpg"> |
Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 23 March 2006 at 3:27pm
I SHALLANGE YUU TO A DEWL!! *slaps face* Sorry but you are completely wrong :) ------------- Tippmann A-5 Polished Internals E-Grip Ape Board JCS Blade Trigger QEV 8" Bigshot + Apex Ricochet R-5 / Tac Cap Palmers Stabilizer 68/4500 Crossfire |
Posted By: TheBaldGuy
Date Posted: 24 March 2006 at 8:40am
| You might consider getting an expansion chamber and remote line if you want to conserve your gas. you're gonna pick up some of the liquid CO2 when your tank's horizontal. The expansion chamber and remote line will help minimize that. |
Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 24 March 2006 at 8:54am
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Wow... Old Post... -------------
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