This guy can shoot
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Topic: This guy can shoot
Posted By: NotDaveEllis
Subject: This guy can shoot
Date Posted: 08 February 2006 at 10:43pm
http://media.putfile.com/Xtrema2-Shotgun - Video link
for that man
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 08 February 2006 at 10:47pm
holy crap.
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Posted By: Jack Carver
Date Posted: 08 February 2006 at 10:49pm
That is sick! 
What was he shooting besides pigeons? Golf balls?
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Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 08 February 2006 at 10:51pm
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seems sort of dumb having a gun that shoots that fast, after two seconds hes gotta reload and whoever hes facing whether it be a home invader or w/e that guys now got a shot or an escape chance
edit- if your gonna shoot that fast why not just get that 9mm pistol they made fully auto? i forget where i saw it online, but it was sick....or just get an ak47 or an m16 and find someone whos really good and willing to convert it to auto....i know its possible i forgot the name of the part that they have to mill though
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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 08 February 2006 at 10:53pm
Wow. That's amazing.
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Posted By: NotDaveEllis
Date Posted: 08 February 2006 at 10:54pm
GI JOES SON wrote:
seems sort of dumb having a gun that shoots that fast, after two seconds hes gotta reload and whoever hes facing whether it be a home invader or w/e that guys now got a shot or an escape chance
edit- if your gonna shoot that fast why not just get that 9mm pistol they made fully auto? i forget where i saw it online, but it was sick....or just get an ak47 or an m16 and find someone whos really good and willing to convert it to auto....i know its possible i forgot the name of the part that they have to mill though |
More than speed in the video, and converting firearms to full auto is similar to paintball guns, just sears and springs
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Posted By: *Stealth*
Date Posted: 08 February 2006 at 10:55pm
GI JOES SON wrote:
seems sort of dumb having a gun that shoots that fast, after two seconds hes gotta reload and whoever hes facing whether it be a home invader or w/e that guys now got a shot or an escape chance
edit- if your gonna shoot that fast why not just get that 9mm pistol they made fully auto? i forget where i saw it online, but it was sick....or just get an ak47 or an m16 and find someone whos really good and willing to convert it to auto....i know its possible i forgot the name of the part that they have to mill though |
That's a 12 gauge I believe, 12 shots in 1 second... Who ever is being shot at... IS NOT gonna get away.
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Posted By: Jack Carver
Date Posted: 08 February 2006 at 10:57pm
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I think you guys are missing the point. It's a sporting shotgun.
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Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 08 February 2006 at 10:59pm
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depends on the situation,depends on where you are, i saw this thing on the history channel last night and these guys in ww2 were pinned by machine gun fire from japs and this one guy was the one they were shootin at and he stood behind a tree and didnt get a scratch on him....and it depends on the shot of the bullet, if its a buck shot or a slug round...if its a buck shot then yea someone prolly not gettin away, but from what it looked like it seemed like a slug round
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Posted By: *Stealth*
Date Posted: 08 February 2006 at 11:01pm
GI JOES SON wrote:
depends on the situation,depends on where you are, i saw this thing on the history channel last night and these guys in ww2 were pinned by machine gun fire from japs and this one guy was the one they were shootin at and he stood behind a tree and didnt get a scratch on him....and it depends on the shot of the bullet, if its a buck shot or a slug round...if its a buck shot then yea someone prolly not gettin away, but from what it looked like it seemed like a slug round |
I dont think those were slugs. If he was hitting 12 golf balls... In the air, in just over a second... WITH slugs.
My god.
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Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 08 February 2006 at 11:01pm
GI JOES SON wrote:
seems sort of dumb having a gun that shoots that fast, after two seconds hes gotta reload and whoever hes facing whether it be a home invader or w/e that guys now got a shot or an escape chance
edit- if your gonna shoot that fast why not just get that 9mm pistol they made fully auto? i forget where i saw it online, but it was sick....or just get an ak47 or an m16 and find someone whos really good and willing to convert it to auto....i know its possible i forgot the name of the part that they have to mill though |
yes because guns are only bought to defend your house...
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Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 08 February 2006 at 11:07pm
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^^im not sayin that, but in some cases especially on long island here in ny home invasions has become an increasing problem and im sure some idiot whos just lookin for somethin to shoot an invader with would be fascinated by fast rate of fire rather than stopping power...some people dont pay attention to these things
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 08 February 2006 at 11:09pm
dude, after that 2 seconds, the intruder won't have much left of him to run with...
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Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 08 February 2006 at 11:11pm
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regardless... its not a good idea to have a loaded gun in your house ready for an intruder to come waltzing in. plus, only 2% of the people that were home during burglaries or other home invasions actually used a firearm to protect themselves
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Posted By: Mehs
Date Posted: 08 February 2006 at 11:11pm
Beretta shotguns are awesome.
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Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 08 February 2006 at 11:17pm
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procarbinefreak wrote:
regardless... its not a good idea to have a loaded gun in your house ready for an intruder to come waltzing in. plus, only 2% of the people that were home during burglaries or other home invasions actually used a firearm to protect themselves |
im not disagreeing with you, and sadly someone in ny as some of you know obtaining a rifle is relatively easy, provided you dont have any problems with the law you can get one, they should make classes required in regards to gun safety before letting someone buy a gun and take a refresher quiz/test each time they buy one....not saying it will definitely stop idiocy, but it might help.
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Posted By: snypur sam
Date Posted: 08 February 2006 at 11:19pm
now that is one sweet shotgun.
stopping power? i dont think it would get much better than that shotgun man...
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Posted By: ninety8freak
Date Posted: 08 February 2006 at 11:20pm
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I call shens, i'm pretty sure some of those clay pigeons just disappeared....he couldn't have hit all of them.
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Posted By: Ynnekdude
Date Posted: 08 February 2006 at 11:22pm
This is for sport guys; I don't think by showing you this they are saying "If anyone breaks into your house, you can put 12 shots in 'em before they hit the ground."
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Posted By: ANARCHY_SCOUT
Date Posted: 08 February 2006 at 11:23pm
Freakin INSANE that guys got extreme accuracy.
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Posted By: Ynnekdude
Date Posted: 08 February 2006 at 11:26pm
Sry Double Post...
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Posted By: >><<
Date Posted: 08 February 2006 at 11:28pm
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I've seen demonstrations on shotguns and i've seen personnaly most of those shots this guy did.
I wish it was legal to have 12 shots in a shot gun.
And everythings extreme now or EXTREMA2
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Posted By: Boss_DJ
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 7:20am
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Posted By: Kayback
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 1:08pm
Well all I can say is Holy Cow. Thats fantastic. I wonder if it works with the Aguilla mini shot shells. They are shorty, 1 4/5" IIRC 12 guage rounds. You can fit 12 in a standard 8 shot mag. So in a 12 shot mag? Hundreds.
Anyway, on a side note in the USA it is illegal to manufacture a new automatic firearm, or convert a semi auto rifle into a full auto rifle.
The only way you could legally get a full auto capable rifle for home defence is to cough up the IIRC $200 ATFE tax stamp, and then fork out the over $3 000 for the rifle. And that's for a relatively cheap rifle. They are at a premium because you can't legally make more full auto guns for civilian ownership.
You are better off getting a semi auto and sticking with that. Cheaper than official full auto guns, and less illegal than, well, illegal ones.
KBK
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Posted By: Hoytshooter
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 1:15pm
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I havent watched the video, but Tom knapp shoots a benelli shotgun and hit something like 9 clays in the air, looked like full auto, but its not. Also lots of poeple shoot double action revolvers very fast too, I think the record is 6shots in .723 seconds. VERY fast amazingly fast
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Posted By: Kayback
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 1:25pm
Yeah, actually double action revolvers are faster than semi auto guns, because it literally works as fast as you pull the trigger, no "waiting" for the action to move.
And this isn't Knapp, it's Bradley. IIRC Knapp was using a pump with his stock wasn't he?
KBK
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Posted By: Hoytshooter
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 1:27pm
He holds a record with a pump and semi auto.
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Posted By: Kayback
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 1:29pm
RIght. I didn't know he also shot semi. Something new......
Thanks.
KBK
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 3:01pm
Dear god. That shotgun is absolutely incredible. If it takes standard shell loads and is as reliable as it says, I could esaily see this thing having military applications, particularly for naval boarding parties and similar roles.
What I want to know is how the recoil is absorbed so efficiently.
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Posted By: 98God
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 3:09pm
Posted By: oreomann33
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 3:10pm
GI JOES SON wrote:
seems sort of dumb having a gun that shoots
that fast, after two seconds hes gotta reload and whoever hes facing
whether it be a home invader or w/e that guys now got a shot or an
escape chance
edit- if your gonna shoot that fast why not just get that 9mm pistol
they made fully auto? i forget where i saw it online, but it was
sick....or just get an ak47 or an m16 and find someone whos really good
and willing to convert it to auto....i know its possible i forgot the
name of the part that they have to mill though |
Guns are made strictly to kill people....
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 3:19pm
brihard wrote:
Dear god. That shotgun is absolutely incredible. If it takes standard shell loads and is as reliable as it says, I could esaily see this thing having military applications, particularly for naval boarding parties and similar roles.What I want to know is how the recoil is absorbed so efficiently.
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Posted By: blackdog144
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 3:30pm
well its a sporting gun...not something to defend yourself with...well
you could but thats not what it was made for...other then that, here in
washington state, you cant own any gun thats fully auto (pisses me off)
and you cant own any gun with a barrel length of under 16
inches...(makes me mad to)...i hate this state, all i want to own is a
fully auto gun, but its imposible unless i want to fork over big tax
money...
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 3:34pm
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^why do you want full auto?
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Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 3:45pm
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duh choop... it's sooooo useful... i mean you need at least 50 rounds to take down a deer.
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 3:48pm
I had some buddies in my old unit who went down tot he states for a training ex. They got to go out on a range and fire the Mk-19 automatic grenade launcher.
So they're shooting it off, and suddenly one of my buddies sees a deer and yells 'STOP STOP STOP!' in accordance with our range procedures- shooting animals is a big no-no. The American NCO running the range asked why, and my buddy pointed out the deer, so the Sgt screamed "TARGET OF OPPORTUNITY 1 O'CLOCK 400 YARDS! RAPID RATE, GO ON!"
Friggin' deer damn near disintegrated.
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Posted By: mbro
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 3:54pm
brihard wrote:
Dear god. That shotgun is absolutely incredible. If it takes standard shell loads and is as reliable as it says, I could esaily see this thing having military applications, particularly for naval boarding parties and similar roles.What I want to know is how the recoil is absorbed so efficiently.
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Posted By: Hoytshooter
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 3:56pm
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I would of payed to see that^^^^^
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Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 4:43pm
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Kayback wrote:
Anyway, on a side note in the USA it is illegal to manufacture a new automatic firearm, or convert a semi auto rifle into a full auto rifle.
You are better off getting a semi auto and sticking with that. Cheaper than official full auto guns, and less illegal than, well, illegal ones.
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like i said, someone whos willing to do it....by that i meant illegal, guess i shoulda said that better before...ive got a tendancy to miscommunicate my thoughts properly and every so often i spell somethin wrong...but thats not new
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Posted By: Monkey Dust
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 5:39pm
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wow that is crazy
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Posted By: TruePaintballer
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 6:16pm
that is intense. That guy has amazing speed and accuracy, that video makes me want to try clay shooting
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Posted By: cadet_sergeant
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 7:16pm
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my friend and i go out shooting clay's every once in a while in the river bottom, we dont miss much but we also arnt shooting at that speed.
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Posted By: youm0nt
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 7:34pm
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wicked awesome.i wonder how much bullets,clays, and gun maintence cost a year.
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Posted By: Hoytshooter
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 8:23pm
GI JOES SON wrote:
depends on the situation,depends on where you are, i saw this thing on the history channel last night and these guys in ww2 were pinned by machine gun fire from japs and this one guy was the one they were shootin at and he stood behind a tree and didnt get a scratch on him....and it depends on the shot of the bullet, if its a buck shot or a slug round...if its a buck shot then yea someone prolly not gettin away, but from what it looked like it seemed like a slug round
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You've never shot a shotgun, and that shotgun isnt fully auto, its just semi auto and he pulls the trigger fast, hes not shooting slugs, or buckshot, he's probably using like number 6 bird shot. That is a sporting clays gun, shooting clays that fast is alot more fun than shooting an automatic 9mm or anything.
ALSO: The recoil is significantly reduced in semi auto guns because the internals slide back absorbing most of the recoil, and the gun probably has a spring in the stock connected to the internals thus even more reducing the recoil.
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Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 8:45pm
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It's a Baretta 391 type shotgun with a fancy stock and extended magazine. It's not fully automatic. It's gas operated which cuts down a lot on recoil. It's also not new technology or a home defense arm. He's almost definatly shooting small birdshot, probably about size 8 and with a very wide pattern choke.
A 9mm machinepistol would be horribly uncontrolable. And not useful for shooting birds or clays. A kalashnikov would be no better. GI Joes Son, I really don't know what in the world you are talking about.
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Posted By: Hoytshooter
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 8:56pm
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And today we find out GI joes son is one of those ZOMG IM AN UBER COOL SNIPER PAINTBALL GUN EXPERT THAT WATCHES THE HISTORY CHANNEL FOR MY TOP SECRET FBI/MILITARY/CIA UBER COOL INFO ON GUNS AND SUCH!!!!!11!!
wait, I knew that when I saw his icon, and his name.
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Posted By: Boss_DJ
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 8:57pm
procarbinefreak wrote:
duh choop... it's sooooo useful... i mean you need at least 50 rounds to take down a deer.
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Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 9:29pm
GI JOES SON wrote:
^^im not sayin that, but in some cases especially on
long island here in ny home invasions has become an increasing problem
and im sure some idiot whos just lookin for somethin to shoot an
invader with would be fascinated by fast rate of fire rather than
stopping power...some people dont pay attention to these things |
first off, its semi auto, it shoots however fast you pull the
trigger. it can shoot 12 shots a second, or 12 shots every ten
years.
and rate of fire over stopping power? have ever seen what a 12
guage can do to flesh? especially at close range, and since you seem to
be bent on home defense, your not gonna be much further than 20 feet
anywhere in your house.
plus it is, as someone else already said, a sport shotgun. it was
made to have fun, and whats more fun the 12 shots a second?
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