Most accurate gun?
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Topic: Most accurate gun?
Posted By: parkg95
Subject: Most accurate gun?
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 7:30am
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What is the most accurate gun, or overall best paintball sniper weapon? Your choice CAN be a gun with a different barrel, or other customizations on it. ------------- My Gun: Tippmann A-5 Dogleg Stock A-5A2 Foregrip 12" Bigshot Remote Line ..Who cares what the other stuff is?... |
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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 8:02am
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There is no such thing as snipers in paintball. It is physically impossible to be a sniper when everyone has thee same range. Pretty much accuracy is determined by paint to bore match. A good paint to bore will give you excellent accuracy everytime. |
Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 8:41am
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it more about the barrel and paint then the marker...i would say u wuld get the best accuracy w/ the Lapco Bigshot and Scorch Paint..... ------------- 
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 9:06am
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Paint/barrel match is important, but there are plenty of other factors as well. Some guns ARE more accurate/consistent than others, and one must consider the air source, any regulators, and other factors. Nobody know exactly which gun/combination is most accurate. Nobody has done a survey of guns. Besides, new technology is available all the time. |
Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 11:11am
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OOOOO He said the "S-word"
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-JUSTICE http://www.myspace.com/outkastpaintball - Outkast Myspace |
Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 11:12am
I'm Debating whether or not to go midevil on his ass. |
Justice wrote:Posted By: mamasboi
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 12:47pm
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burn dude but ya no snipers its the way u know ur marker and how the paint and barrel match |
Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 5:21pm
If you're looking to upgrade a gun to perfect accuracy and consistancy, i hope you're willing to put a good $800 into upgrades :) ------------- Tippmann A-5 Polished Internals E-Grip Ape Board JCS Blade Trigger QEV 8" Bigshot + Apex Ricochet R-5 / Tac Cap Palmers Stabilizer 68/4500 Crossfire |
Posted By: Ilford Rule
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 5:42pm
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Autocockers (or any closed bolt marker) with a good paint-bore match
are the most accurate marker (at low rates of fire). Closed bolt
markers lose their higher accuracy at high ROF because they dont have
time to stop the bolt before firing, basically making them open bolt.
------------- CPro (w/ polished internals) 14" Bigshot BT SBS Various Rails NcSTAR D4B Macro AA 68/45 
CCI Phantom 45 Grips |
Posted By: JawCrusher
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 6:52pm
Right on... Cockers and other closed bolt markers are noticeably more accurate than open bolt markers such as Tippmanns. Don't get me wrong... I still choose my Tippmann over my Cocker but... facts are facts. ------------- No Obstacles, Only Challenges ~Christ Krew Luv~ |
Posted By: lester98c
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 6:54pm
| autococker with 40 inch hammerhead barrel mounted onto a flatline |
Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 7:18pm
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 7:28pm
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Yep - and the FACTS are that while some guns mechanisms may be more consistent than others, there is absolutely ZERO evidence that firing from a closed bolt position is more accurate than firing from an open bolt position. In fact, what little evidence there is points to there being no difference at all. |
Posted By: Monkey Dust
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 7:31pm
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I LOVE IT ------------- a new breed of dracula!!!!!! |
Posted By: Nutteralex
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 9:27pm
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Spyder with a 21 in progressive it's all you need.
------------- Please for the love of god don't get a flatline. |
Posted By: Cheetos3254
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 9:33pm
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1st. off paintball "markers" are NOT and I repeat are NOT weapons
2nd. Any paintball marker can be accurate with the right paint to barrel match. ------------- 
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Posted By: monty_sniper
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 9:39pm
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*audiance* do it do it do it ------------- 98% of ion owners think ions are better than any high end gun. If you would like to bonus ball these idiots put this in your sig. Proud owner of 3 guns and counting. |
Posted By: Ilford Rule
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 9:41pm
Im PRETTY SURE that when you can guess where your ball is going to land due to consistency, then your shooting is going to be a little (sarcasm) more accurate. Firing from a closed bolt position is more accurate because the ball isnt being pushed forward by the bolt when it is fired like it is in an open bolt system. However, at higher ROF the ball IS still moving because the valve is releasing the gas (Co2 or compressed air) as the bolt comes into the firing position because it needs to make its way back to the breech and chamber another ball. ------------- CPro (w/ polished internals) 14" Bigshot BT SBS Various Rails NcSTAR D4B Macro AA 68/45
CCI Phantom 45 Grips |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 10:09pm
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This is a fine theory - and that is all it is: theory. Like I said, there is ZERO evidence for this. What little evidence there is (a mediocre study by WARPIG) indicates no difference between open bolt and closed bolt. So let me repeat myself: ZERO evidence. And, as you point out yourself, is that this theory breaks down at high ROF anyway. I have a hard time imagining how this "not moving" theory would work at 20bps... |
Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 10:19pm
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We all know the best sniper gun ever! is... a DM5 with a 65" flatline and a folding, bending, twisting stock and a 12x scope... DUH! ------------- "I AM a crossdresser." -Reb Cpl Forum Vice President RIP T&O Forum |
Posted By: Ilford Rule
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 10:52pm
key word in that: mediocre study it is all good theory. if there was a person able to hold a marker steady and consitantly enough to utilize the accuracy of a closed bolt system it would work. just because people cant USE the accuracy doesnt mean it isnt there. ------------- CPro (w/ polished internals) 14" Bigshot BT SBS Various Rails NcSTAR D4B Macro AA 68/45
CCI Phantom 45 Grips |
Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 10 February 2006 at 8:16am
| I have done some independent testing with my Pro/Carbine, by removing the Linkage arm and closing the bolt manually on a bench test and have found no difference in accuracy between the closed bolt and open bolt positions. |
Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 10 February 2006 at 10:29am
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Even in that mediocre study that Clark is referring to, the guns were clamped. I don't think holding steady had anything to do with it. ------------- [IMG]http://i38.tinypic.com/aag8s8.jpg"> |
Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 10 February 2006 at 10:36am
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Posted By: Uncle Grunty
Date Posted: 10 February 2006 at 8:30pm
| Hi. New to the forum and will be buying a paintball gun soon. Question please. Why can't you spin the paintball for stability like you would a rifle ball? Wouldn't that help accuracy? Thank you. |
Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 10 February 2006 at 9:54pm
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You can get rifled barrels, but it's effectiveness is minimal. Remember that paintballs are not bullets. |
Posted By: SuzukiRider987
Date Posted: 10 February 2006 at 10:13pm
And look http://www.automags.org/resource/tech/tomstech/03_spinning.shtml - here for a more in depth tech article explaining why. But really the following sentence is all you need to read... "Based on this data we believe round paintballs are too light and have lousy aerodynamics to expect any more accuracy than what we are currently getting.". ------------- http://www.macdev.net - MacDev Militia http://www.alienpb.com - Alien - Because winning is more fun. |
Posted By: Uncle Grunty
Date Posted: 10 February 2006 at 10:13pm
| Not like a bullet but like a round ball. Those are spun also. We use to hunt rabbit with round ball. I assume people hunt with round ball here also? I've seen paintball and it looks fun and I want to try. Does it hurt? Thank you. |
Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 13 February 2006 at 7:58pm
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and also, the only major performance difference between closed and open bolt is that closed has a little bit better gas efficiancy. plus you don't have to cock your marker..... ------------- X |
Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 13 February 2006 at 8:04pm
------------- A-5 E-Grip JCS Dual Trigger DOP X-CORE 8 stage x-chamber Lapco Bigshot 14" Beadblasted Optional setup: R/T Dead on Blade trigger |
Posted By: dodan44
Date Posted: 13 February 2006 at 9:15pm
| im tired of people asking about the s word. there is no such thing. barrells help alot. i wouldnt go over 18 inch. i know of people with 22 and the gun looses pressure and wont shoot near as far. 14 is my favorite |
Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 13 February 2006 at 9:27pm
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I wouldn't go over 14" myself. Unless you playing airball, then 16" is acceptbale if you play back.
------------- A-5 E-Grip JCS Dual Trigger DOP X-CORE 8 stage x-chamber Lapco Bigshot 14" Beadblasted Optional setup: R/T Dead on Blade trigger |
Posted By: Monkey Dust
Date Posted: 13 February 2006 at 9:29pm
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14 is the way to go ------------- a new breed of dracula!!!!!! |
Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 14 February 2006 at 5:57pm
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most accurate guns ive ever shot are sheridan brass or an old style shocker... say what you want those 2 guns are more accurate than most ive shot... ------------- saving the world, one warship at a time. |
Posted By: monty_sniper
Date Posted: 14 February 2006 at 10:25pm
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never say sniper again, never... ------------- 98% of ion owners think ions are better than any high end gun. If you would like to bonus ball these idiots put this in your sig. Proud owner of 3 guns and counting. |
Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 15 February 2006 at 8:42am
^ uz just did fooz! 
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-JUSTICE http://www.myspace.com/outkastpaintball - Outkast Myspace |
Posted By: RedLion56
Date Posted: 15 February 2006 at 11:21am
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There is no need for a 22"...There just isn't..In my opinion i think that the owner is either stupid or wants it for looks (which i think is still stupid).Plus it must be heavy. ------------- A5 12"Bigshot Pure energy 20ozCo2x2/AntiSyphon 32 degrees Black X_chamber Pen spring mod Polished Internals |
Posted By: NasdaQ
Date Posted: 15 February 2006 at 2:08pm
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I was nwe to paintball and i didnt have much
knowledge about barrels when i bought mine s i ended up buying an 16". now that i ahv more barrels i notice that there really is no reason for anything bigger than 14. but then again i am not going to get rid of my 16" just because of the 2 extra inches of size. but if i was going to buy a new one i would never go over 14. ------------- No Sprinkles! for every sprinkle I find i shall kill you. Stewie Grifin |
Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 15 February 2006 at 3:48pm
NO DUDE! it's gotta be the l33t 12' int3rc3ptor barr3l!!!!111!!!11!111!1!!!! ------------- Tippmann A-5 Polished Internals E-Grip Ape Board JCS Blade Trigger QEV 8" Bigshot + Apex Ricochet R-5 / Tac Cap Palmers Stabilizer 68/4500 Crossfire |
Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 15 February 2006 at 3:56pm
Paintball markers are considered weapons by law, which is why you can't purchase one unless you're over 18 years old. ------------- Tippmann A-5 Polished Internals E-Grip Ape Board JCS Blade Trigger QEV 8" Bigshot + Apex Ricochet R-5 / Tac Cap Palmers Stabilizer 68/4500 Crossfire |
Posted By: Shub
Date Posted: 15 February 2006 at 4:03pm
key word in that: <span style="font-weight: bold;">mediocre</span> study it is all good theory. if there <span style="font-weight: bold;">was</span> a person able to hold a marker steady and consitantly enough to utilize the accuracy of a closed bolt system it would work. just because people cant USE the accuracy doesnt mean it isnt there. [/QUOTE] Give it up. Clark is right. I'm not saying that closed bolt isn't accurate, but again, there's no proof that it's MORE accurate than any other paintball gun. |
Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 15 February 2006 at 4:50pm
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Closed bolt being more accurate goes back to actual firearms, mainly submachineguns. When fireing semi-automatically, a subgun fireing from a close bolt position is more accurate since it doesn't have the heavy mass of the bolt slamming foreward before the shot, changing your point of aim. There's no real diferance after the first shot in full auto. Open bolt subguns allow better barrel cooling, and are more simple to manufacture. Cockers are probably more accurate since they are renown for consistancy. From a practical standpoint, there's no differance between open and closed bolt. |
Posted By: dead-eye_tippy
Date Posted: 15 February 2006 at 5:49pm
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Well, these aren't real guns, these are paintball guns, that shoot 150 feet, not 150 yds and shoot paintballs, not bullets. You can't compare an AK-47 to an A5 Ak, because they aren't the same thing. ------------- Gear: Smart Parts Ion Tech T Bolt CCM Feedneck NDZ Roller Trigger CP Razor Drop Forward Virtue Board CP ASA On/Off Freak Kit 14" 360 QEV Shocker Regulator |
Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 15 February 2006 at 6:40pm
| I'm stating that that is where the myth comes from, not saying that it's totally comparable. Chill out. You can also draw quite a few parallels between paintball guns and submachineguns. |