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Dual QEV for the Cyclone

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Topic: Dual QEV for the Cyclone
Posted By: cus98tom
Subject: Dual QEV for the Cyclone
Date Posted: 11 February 2006 at 12:10pm

I am working on a dual QEV for the Cyclone hoppers, This is how I hope it works.

The exhaust from the Normal QEV gets directed int a second QEV, this extra air would be in addition to the spring  pushing the Piston back, hopefully speeding the Cyclone up.

The shaft of the piston will have to be O-ringed to stop air from exiting the piston tube and some sort of fitting ( I'm thinking of part of a compression fitting) will be needed to allow the piston shaft to move in its elliptical path. I think its doable , any Ideas.




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Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 11 February 2006 at 12:12pm
you would need a double action ram in order for this to work.

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Posted By: cus98tom
Date Posted: 11 February 2006 at 12:18pm
I don't know , I would not replace any internals, just redirect the air to help push the piston back hopefully increasing spead.


Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 11 February 2006 at 10:48pm
well there is nothing to hold the pressure on the opposite side of the ram to make it push. Therefor you would need a double action ram. The idea isn't very bright anyway. Obviously you don't know how QEV's work. 

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Posted By: cus98tom
Date Posted: 12 February 2006 at 8:40am
Originally posted by The Guy The Guy wrote:

well there is nothing to hold the pressure on the opposite side of the ram to make it push. Therefor you would need a double action ram. The idea isn't very bright anyway. Obviously you don't know how QEV's work. 


Although I value your opinion , it appears you did not read the entire post, I made mention of blocking the cylinder. As for the QEV , it is venting the gas being pushed back by the piston/ram . Why not use that gas, route it to the other side of the the piston via a QEV's input and mount it in the same fashion as it would be under a "normal" setup. When the cyclone piston moves forward in normal fashion any air/ gas trapped would be exhausted through the second QEV.

That being said , there may not be enough energy to make a difference, you don't know if you don't try.


Posted By: monty_sniper
Date Posted: 12 February 2006 at 2:38pm

Originally posted by The Guy The Guy wrote:

well there is nothing to hold the pressure on the opposite side of the ram to make it push. Therefor you would need a double action ram. The idea isn't very bright anyway. Obviously you don't know how QEV's work. 

yeah, and i'm not sure it wouldn't mess your cyclone up.



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Posted By: Mr. Spiffy
Date Posted: 12 February 2006 at 7:05pm
Sounds cool, but also appears like you're trying to overcomplicate the design. If you can, I'd love to see a diagram of what you're trying to do. Best of luck.

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Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 14 February 2006 at 8:12pm
Theres no pressure to speak of coming from the exhaust of a cylinder. Maybe half a PSI, if that.

If I had a guage laying around Id measure it. But alas.


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Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 14 February 2006 at 8:19pm
well any pressure being displaced will be equalized on the other side. 

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Posted By: cus98tom
Date Posted: 14 February 2006 at 9:44pm
No Pressure ,Well that burst my bubble. Thanks for the input, I'll shelve this one.



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