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A5 MP5 Mod & Opsgear Parts Review

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Topic: A5 MP5 Mod & Opsgear Parts Review
Posted By: nauzerlvr
Subject: A5 MP5 Mod & Opsgear Parts Review
Date Posted: 15 February 2006 at 10:51am
Ordering:
Opsgear has been quitely discontinuing their original line of plastic
modification parts in favor of a much higher quality "military grade"
collection. I recently ordered two of their new Gas Through MP5 Mag
kits
and one Raider Flatline Shroud with Rails. I ordered on Thursday, by
telephone and asked and paid for two day air delivery. Since that
would
have meant delivering on Saturday, I exp[ected them on Monday.
Well,
that didn't happen. I got them on Tuesday, delivered to the house
next
door to mine. I just happened to see the box on their front porch.
Opsgear's service was very professional and courteous.

Opening the package:
Everything was there, including one Opsgear sticker and one Raider
sticker. All three parts ended up being a total of $184.00. The mags
were
$49.95 apiece and the shroud was $59.95. Each part was
professionally
packed in a plastic bag with a 4 color foldover piece at the top
explaining
what Opsgear does. All hardwear was there and neatly packaged.

Parts Quality:
All I can say is this...Opsgear is really turning out some extremely
high
quality parts. You have to see them to believe them. When I say High
quality, I mean of the absolute highest quality. These things are truly
"military grade." Well worth what they ask. The mag kit is machined
from
a solid billet of aircraft aluminum, no pressed steel here. It fits
perfectly!
It comes with two screws that will replace the existing screws in your
A5.
Assembly takes about 2 minutes. The look is great as you'll see at
the end
of this review.

The A5 Flatline Shroud with the rails is machined from aluminum
also.
Only the rails are the Opsgear composite. You have to attach each of
4
rails via 4 machined, countersinking black screws. Lots of attention
to
detail here. Pay close attention to the underside of the rails as there
are
two with indentions for the screws that hold the endcaps of the
flatline in
position. Assemble the barrel and the endcaps before you attach the
rails.
Overall quality is superb!

Way to go Opsgear. These are some of the absolute best conversion
parts
I have ever seen our used. No, they did not give them to me, I paid
for all
of them.

Attaching:
I bought a brand-new Response Trigger A% last night and assembled
the
entire gun with some other parts I had in about 20 minutes.
Everything
went on very well and without a hitch. I also used the JCS folding
stock,
an older Opsgear site rail and an electronic red dot site I bought at a
local
gun show.

And here is the gun as it appears at present...not bad for about 30
minutes work I don't think. This will probably be an ongoing project
so
stay tuned.

Nauz



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Replies:
Posted By: DanSD
Date Posted: 15 February 2006 at 11:19am
Nice review.  I would have gone with the mp5 mag from specops since you can upgrade it with a palmer's stabilizer. 

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Hate the game.


Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 15 February 2006 at 11:31am
At least you didn't buy from SpecOps.


Posted By: mjicmike
Date Posted: 15 February 2006 at 11:32am
nice setup.  How many pounds does that baby weigh without the tank ? if you don't mind me asking. 

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A5 Rfs Dwg triggr
Ricochet R5
8"Lapco Bigsht/14"CP Classic
Palmers Stab.
Lapco uni-mount
DOP bullet drop fwd
PMI 88/4500

Woods
Flatline/14"Lapco Bigsht
CMI Thunder pig reg.
Remote adj. stk


Posted By: DanSD
Date Posted: 15 February 2006 at 11:33am

Originally posted by Snake6 Snake6 wrote:

At least you didn't buy from SpecOps.

 

What's wrong with specops?



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Don't hate the player...
Hate the game.


Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 15 February 2006 at 11:34am
Originally posted by DanSD DanSD wrote:

Originally posted by Snake6 Snake6 wrote:

At least you didn't buy from SpecOps.

 

What's wrong with specops?



Dont make me start.


Posted By: nauzerlvr
Date Posted: 15 February 2006 at 11:42am
Originally posted by Snake6 Snake6 wrote:

At least you didn't buy from SpecOps.


I've never bought anything from specOps...are they bad?

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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 15 February 2006 at 11:58am
Originally posted by nauzerlvr nauzerlvr wrote:

Originally posted by Snake6 Snake6 wrote:

At least you didn't buy from SpecOps.


I've never bought anything from specOps...are they bad?

From my experiance their customer service has sucked horribly, I ordered twice from them. Once they didn't ship the item at all, the second time they forgot to make the item and then wouldn't give me a refund when I called about it 2 months later.


Posted By: ABTOCMEPTb
Date Posted: 15 February 2006 at 12:06pm
Good review but I hope its not the only marker you have.

Main problem is that both companies SpecOps ad Opsgear are clouding minds of paintball newcomers.

SpecOps with their obsolite "position" strategy to push sales of their ugly mods.

Opsgear for the same reason.

I do have mods that looks like real weapon but I also carry some high-end mechanical markers. When n00b considering buying a marker and insted of investing $500 into high-end marker he wasting it on A5 with cosmetic BS its just plain stupid and I blame companies like specops and opsgear for that.



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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 15 February 2006 at 12:09pm
Originally posted by ABTOCMEPTb ABTOCMEPTb wrote:

Main problem is that both companies SpecOps ad Opsgear are clouding minds of paintball newcomers.

SpecOps with their obsolite "position" strategy to push sales of their ugly mods.

Opsgear for the same reason.


Yeah, I have that same problem with them. SpecOps guested me from their forum for giving hard facts about the non-existance of snipers.


Posted By: nauzerlvr
Date Posted: 15 February 2006 at 12:46pm
Originally posted by ABTOCMEPTb ABTOCMEPTb wrote:

Good review but I hope its not the only marker
you have.

Main problem is that both companies SpecOps ad Opsgear are clouding
minds of paintball newcomers.

SpecOps with their obsolite "position" strategy to push sales of their ugly
mods.

Opsgear for the same reason.

I do have mods that looks like real weapon but I also carry some
high-end mechanical markers. When n00b considering buying a marker
and
insted of investing $500 into high-end marker he wasting it on A5 with
cosmetic BS its just plain stupid and I blame companies like specops
and opsgear for that.



No. I have three Tippmann A5's in various stages of conversion. So if I
understand correctly, you sell conversions?

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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 15 February 2006 at 1:21pm
No, he is talking about SpecOps and opsgear's marketing and false advertising toward new players who dont know any better. The majority of their money is made by telling kids that they need to buy this to become the "ulitimate sniper" and by telling kids that they need the A-5A2 in order to be a effective player. 


Posted By: darkSIDEofMOON
Date Posted: 15 February 2006 at 1:21pm

Originally posted by ABTOCMEPTb ABTOCMEPTb wrote:

Good review but I hope its not the only marker you have.

Main problem is that both companies SpecOps ad Opsgear are clouding minds of paintball newcomers.

SpecOps with their obsolite "position" strategy to push sales of their ugly mods.

Opsgear for the same reason.

I do have mods that looks like real weapon but I also carry some high-end mechanical markers. When n00b considering buying a marker and insted of investing $500 into high-end marker he wasting it on A5 with cosmetic BS its just plain stupid and I blame companies like specops and opsgear for that.

 

i think he is stating that he hates how companies come out with products that people like and then sell them. 

on a real question to him is...who cares???  is it your money, nope.  so chill out and let people do what they want.  personally i like opsgear.  i want to get another A-5 just to make it like one of their markers on the website.  why, cuz i have money and time and i think it is cool.  to each their own. 



Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 15 February 2006 at 1:28pm
Originally posted by darkSIDEofMOON darkSIDEofMOON wrote:

Originally posted by ABTOCMEPTb ABTOCMEPTb wrote:

Good review but I hope its not the only marker you have.

Main problem is that both companies SpecOps ad Opsgear are clouding minds of paintball newcomers.

SpecOps with their obsolite "position" strategy to push sales of their ugly mods.

Opsgear for the same reason.

I do have mods that looks like real weapon but I also carry some high-end mechanical markers. When n00b considering buying a marker and insted of investing $500 into high-end marker he wasting it on A5 with cosmetic BS its just plain stupid and I blame companies like specops and opsgear for that.

 

i think he is stating that he hates how companies come out with products that people like and then sell them. 

on a real question to him is...who cares???  is it your money, nope.  so chill out and let people do what they want.  personally i like opsgear.  i want to get another A-5 just to make it like one of their markers on the website.  why, cuz i have money and time and i think it is cool.  to each their own. 


Like I said above, its the marketing strategy that is unethical. SpecOps tells the new players that just started playing paintball that in oder to be the "ultimate sniper" they have to buy a $500 marker from them. In order to be an effective team commander I supposivly have to have a Pistol, and a throat mike and a A-5A2, and their special camo. This marketing strategy takes advantage of those who dont know any better is very unethical in my opinion.


Posted By: nauzerlvr
Date Posted: 15 February 2006 at 1:40pm
As a marketing professional, I agree with snake in this. It's the same thing
the cigarette companys tried with the cartoon camel and so on. In reality,
buying certain items from a certain company will not make you a "better"
player, it will make you a player better equipped with that particular
companys merchandise. To be a better player, you have to have experience,
not a certain type of camo or a a particular gun mod. I've been hosed by kids
with crappy markers more than once! Why? Simple...they were good players!!

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Posted By: ABTOCMEPTb
Date Posted: 15 February 2006 at 1:51pm
Ofcourse I care less.
But lets do a little math.

Lets say you want to buy one of Opsgear kits for A5 to make it look like "ultimate sniper". Price tag is around $240.

Now lets say some 12-14 years old kid earns $6 in hour doing something-something.

Now tell me this. Does this freaking kit cost 40 hours of underage labor??????

I am not even asking you how does it possible that cosmetic parts (not even performance upgrade!) cost more than marker itself!!!!!!!


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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 15 February 2006 at 2:38pm
What 12-14 year old gets paid $6 a hour?


Posted By: SuzukiRider987
Date Posted: 15 February 2006 at 3:37pm

Nauz does it again. Nice review.



Posted By: Monkey Dust
Date Posted: 15 February 2006 at 3:41pm
Ho's?

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Posted By: TEHGANGSTER
Date Posted: 15 February 2006 at 3:52pm
lool, a  junior man whore could make like 50 an hour, and would end up with only 7 major  stds. but newsflah, theirs slutta butta, for removing stds and genital warts, so like five hours of being a ho, and youd have 10 left over for slutta butta
...... ill edit this later




neither achohol nor drugs were used in the making iof this post


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I am a leaf on the wind, watch how i soar.


Posted By: BIg Boy BrdSwrd
Date Posted: 15 February 2006 at 5:12pm
I think ABTOCMEPTb is just mad cause he got an IP ban from the forum
there.


Posted By: Yomillio
Date Posted: 15 February 2006 at 5:19pm

Originally posted by Snake6 Snake6 wrote:

What 12-14 year old gets paid $6 a hour?

me.



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Posted By: spartan119
Date Posted: 15 February 2006 at 6:31pm

yeha i got paid 6.50 an hour when iw as 13 for my first job...its not really that much

 

back on topic, i think your gun is pretty sick, and i like to see that you went with some of the new opsgear producs...they are amazing (i have also had  some problems with spec op's products and service, but opsgear is great)

-119



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Posted By: kuhndog599
Date Posted: 15 February 2006 at 8:22pm
holy cow!!!!!!!!! you guys get paid that much. i worked at a vet for 2 years and i got paid 5.35 an hour. i got 5.15 and then a month later a raise so i got 5.35. it stayed there for 2 years. i quit because i didnt get holidays off (someones got to take care of the animals and that ticked me off especially on the 4th of july.) and one time there were over 40 dogs there. it took me forever. min. wage here in kansas is 5.15 so yeah.

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model 98 - homemade handguard
solid stock - opsgear mag
polished internals
homemade sling - paintjob
operator barrel
progressive barrel
opsgear mag - stock


Posted By: darkSIDEofMOON
Date Posted: 15 February 2006 at 9:36pm

Originally posted by nauzerlvr nauzerlvr wrote:

As a marketing professional, I agree with snake in this. It's the same thing
the cigarette companys tried with the cartoon camel and so on. In reality,
buying certain items from a certain company will not make you a "better"
player, it will make you a player better equipped with that particular
companys merchandise. To be a better player, you have to have experience,
not a certain type of camo or a a particular gun mod. I've been hosed by kids
with crappy markers more than once! Why? Simple...they were good players!!

 

sooooo all the ads i read in magazines, watch on tv, or on the internet are all unethical?  common there is a difference between targeting the Native Americans than selling paint ball parts to a kid. 

case in point:

Time magazine, January 23, 2006.  page page 19.  FedEx ad stating that if i am not using FedEx then i am missing the point.

page 27, Microsoft office ad stating that if i don't use microsoft windows, i am as dated as a dinosaur. 

Grassroots Motorsports Magazine, June 2005.  page 15.  Mazda ad stating that if i don't use a rotary engine, my car will be slow. 

page 76, AIM sports add that states if i don't own one of their data displays/loggers then i don't know what my car is doing. 

 

so are all these unethical too?



Posted By: Ashdawg
Date Posted: 15 February 2006 at 9:55pm
this reminds me of those people that eat at McDonalds and get fat and then sew the company for their fatness...thats a real unfair marketing strategy...

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Posted By: ANARCHY_SCOUT
Date Posted: 15 February 2006 at 10:15pm
Uhh SpecOps was good to me everytime ive ordered from them I dont buy into their "you mush have this, this, and this strategy" but I do like their Camos their very nice and effective.

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Posted By: ABTOCMEPTb
Date Posted: 15 February 2006 at 10:18pm
Originally posted by BIg Boy BrdSwrd BIg Boy BrdSwrd wrote:

I think ABTOCMEPTb is just mad cause he got an IP ban from the forum
there.


can you back your post?


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Posted By: nauzerlvr
Date Posted: 15 February 2006 at 11:11pm
C'mon everyone, let's play together nicely.

The bottom line is that there will always be unethical marketing and
advertising. And everyone can buy or order from whoever has what
they wish to purchase. It's YOUR choice.

Since I've never orderered anything from SpecOps, i can't say
whether they are a good company to order from or now. I have
ordered from Opsgear on numerous occasions and have had very
good response from them.

And, as for "all magazine ads being unethical" well or course they
aren't. I do have to ask this though...the Army says "be all you can
be in the Army." So what about college? Can you not be all you can
be by graduating from college?

Advertisng and marketing works like this...advertising can lead a
horse to water...marketing can make the horse thirsty in the first
place.

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Posted By: nauzerlvr
Date Posted: 15 February 2006 at 11:20pm
Originally posted by mjicmike mjicmike wrote:

nice setup.  How many pounds does that baby
weigh without the tank ? if you don't mind me asking. 


It's not heavy at all. It's just right for me. I haven't actually weigh it. I
actually like a little heft to a gun. when it's too light it feels to
"toyish" to me.

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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 16 February 2006 at 10:35am
Originally posted by BIg Boy BrdSwrd BIg Boy BrdSwrd wrote:

I think ABTOCMEPTb is just mad cause he got an IP ban from the forum
there.

I was also geusted from their forum, after giving hard facts about the non-existance of snipers in paintball. I guess the SpecOps mods didn't like the fact that there was proof that it is physically impossible to be a sniper in paintball so they guest me and wash their hands of the evidence.


Posted By: BIg Boy BrdSwrd
Date Posted: 16 February 2006 at 2:08pm
Yeah, you got in a fight with cops911, you said it wasn't right for him (an
admin) to sticky his BST then started making sarcastic wise cracks. I am
surprised you are back already but here is the Proof you wanted
http://forum.specialopspaintball.com/index.php?showtopic=416 32&st=0


Posted By: ABTOCMEPTb
Date Posted: 16 February 2006 at 2:43pm
Originally posted by BIg Boy BrdSwrd BIg Boy BrdSwrd wrote:

Yeah, you got in a fight with cops911, you said it wasn't right for him (an
admin) to sticky his BST then started making sarcastic wise cracks. I am
surprised you are back already but here is the Proof you wanted
http://forum.specialopspaintball.com/index.php?showtopic=416 32&st=0


Your link redirected me to some convo about barrels....What is that?

And as you can see I am there and I am posting. What does it mean? Why dont you figure it out on your own.






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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 16 February 2006 at 2:46pm
Originally posted by BIg Boy BrdSwrd BIg Boy BrdSwrd wrote:

Yeah, you got in a fight with cops911, you said it wasn't right for him (an
admin) to sticky his BST then started making sarcastic wise cracks. I am
surprised you are back already but here is the Proof you wanted
http://forum.specialopspaintball.com/index.php?showtopic=416 32&st=0

No I did not. I didn't get in a fight with anyone. I was having a civilized debate about snipers, and the topic was suddenly closed fo no reason that I can comprehend.


Posted By: BIg Boy BrdSwrd
Date Posted: 16 February 2006 at 3:24pm
Ok, it can't even copypaste it, so you can go to the specops forum then to
the paintball BST page and go to page 10 and down to COPS911 cleaning
out the closet and you will see he gets banned on page 2 but it all starts on
page one.


Posted By: nauzerlvr
Date Posted: 16 February 2006 at 3:29pm
Sheesh, and all I wanted to do was review some parts I ordered.........

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Posted By: warbeak2099
Date Posted: 16 February 2006 at 6:27pm
It's ok. You're review was very good and your gun looks great. I'm glad you had good experience with opsgear. They do seem to be much better than specops. They're site and products are less hyped too. Specops are a bunch of morons.

That underground mod shop is really out to snag noobs too. I would never order from them or specops. If I had the money to build a woods gun ($6.75 an hour as a cashier right now grrrr), I'd build a HK 416 with parts from opsgear. That is if they come out with a gas thru AR15 style banana mag. Can't wait till after college when I can afford a big collection!

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LCE-SpyderMag | G-Force Pneumatic Mag | '99 RF Sniper II


Posted By: Fiddy1
Date Posted: 16 February 2006 at 10:17pm
Originally posted by ABTOCMEPTb ABTOCMEPTb wrote:

Ofcourse I care less.
But lets do a little math.

Lets say you want to buy one of Opsgear kits for A5 to make it look like "ultimate sniper". Price tag is around $240.

Now lets say some 12-14 years old kid earns $6 in hour doing something-something.

Now tell me this. Does this freaking kit cost 40 hours of underage labor??????

I am not even asking you how does it possible that cosmetic parts (not even performance upgrade!) cost more than marker itself!!!!!!!


You have to ask yourself, Does any price tag equal its truevalue? A house I payed 250gs is now worth 500g in 3 years, Parts for cars are worth more then the car its self. So if a company puts out a item for a select few that want it, They can ask any price they want. If no one buys it I bet the price would drop. If people dont like milsim items dont buy it. I'd rather spend the money on the milsim upgrades to enjoy my game. You think a case of paint is worth 100 bux??? DAmn I can paint a few rooms in my house for what I see kids waste on paint in just a few hours.


Posted By: warbeak2099
Date Posted: 17 February 2006 at 9:08am
Where are you paying $100 for paint? I get damn good Xball paint at my local field for $45 a case.

You are supposed to get what you pay for. Don't advocate the practice of overcharging! Just because it happens doesn't mean it's right. Yea, there are companies that do take advantage of naive customers, but I won't buy from them. That's why a lot of people won't buy from specops. It's totally reasonable to boycott a company that takes advantage of noobs.

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LCE-SpyderMag | G-Force Pneumatic Mag | '99 RF Sniper II


Posted By: TEHGANGSTER
Date Posted: 17 February 2006 at 9:57am
Originally posted by BIg Boy BrdSwrd BIg Boy BrdSwrd wrote:

Ok, it can't even copypaste it, so you can go to the specops forum then to
the paintball BST page and go to page 10 and down to COPS911 cleaning
out the closet and you will see he gets banned on page 2 but it all starts on
page one.

there isnt a paintball bst thread, and the non thread has 5 pages ????


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Posted By: BIg Boy BrdSwrd
Date Posted: 17 February 2006 at 10:59am
There is a Paintball related only BST on the Specops forum, it has over 26
pages and the thread I am talking about is COPS911 cleaning out the closet,
it is on page 10 right now but that will most likely change.


Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 17 February 2006 at 11:14am
Who Cares?


Posted By: TEHGANGSTER
Date Posted: 17 February 2006 at 11:54am
show me...there isnt on the spec ops  forum.... give me a link


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I am a leaf on the wind, watch how i soar.


Posted By: BIg Boy BrdSwrd
Date Posted: 17 February 2006 at 1:28pm
HERE
http://forum.specialopspaintball.com/index.php?
s=e13cb08c6767876d83c2b090812f2546&showforum=33


Posted By: TheyKilledKenny
Date Posted: 17 February 2006 at 1:32pm
NIce marker if i had to give you a ratintg i would give u a 9/10


Posted By: Gasdrinker
Date Posted: 17 February 2006 at 1:57pm
I think it would look good with a R5 hopper.

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Tippmann A-5/Zeus G1
E-Grip /w APE board
QEV
Vortex
Flatline
Dye UL 14 in.
R5 Hopper
Lapco offset rail with Tac Light/Scope
OpsGear MP5 Sliding Stock
OpsGear MP5 Mag kit
SpecOps Front grip


Posted By: BooksAndLeaves
Date Posted: 17 February 2006 at 9:12pm
Hmm... my 98, stock, and remote came from specops just fine

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Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 18 February 2006 at 7:53am
That gun is gonna kick ass in the end (like all the others we've seen). It looks awesome now but I can only imagine what you'll do to it.

For the people complaining that it's all store bought stuff: It doesn't matter that he didn't make the parts. At least he knows how to combine them to look great.


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Posted By: nauzerlvr
Date Posted: 18 February 2006 at 4:59pm
Hey, thanks Tolgak, I appreciate that!

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Posted By: Evanh
Date Posted: 18 February 2006 at 6:06pm
great lookin marker! and why do so many people shoot down cosmetic upgrades? the only things to do internally are another bolt(they all work the same and sometimes the stock out performs the new ones as per pb ownersgroup) metal power tube, qev mod, lpk, and rva. good choice with opsgear.


Posted By: TEHGANGSTER
Date Posted: 18 February 2006 at 7:36pm
Originally posted by BIg Boy BrdSwrd BIg Boy BrdSwrd wrote:

HERE
http://forum.specialopspaintball.com/index.php?
s=e13cb08c6767876d83c2b090812f2546&showforum=33


but where? there is no bst link off that page


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I am a leaf on the wind, watch how i soar.


Posted By: nauzerlvr
Date Posted: 19 February 2006 at 11:59am
There's nothing wrong with cosmetic modifications. If you're a
Military Simulation buff then you know the reason we alter our
markets to resemble the weapons used by armed forces. Note the
use of the word "resemble" not duplicate.

When someone says something negative about the look of the gun,
like "the mag is too big" or "the real Mp5 or Ak-47 doesn't have this
or that" well, I guess they don't have a cyclone feed either, right? It
so happens, most mag kits are the real thing. I don't think too many
M-16 variants are built on the MP5 frame either.MilSim is all about
the look. A mod is a mod whether it's a performance modification or
a look modification. We change our guns because we can and we like
it!!!

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Posted By: BIg Boy BrdSwrd
Date Posted: 19 February 2006 at 2:20pm
Yes there is, that is the first page of the Spec Ops Paintball related BST.



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