compressed air
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Topic: compressed air
Posted By: Cirabisi2009
Subject: compressed air
Date Posted: 18 February 2006 at 9:23pm
how do you know what kinda tank to get for your gun? i see these different kinds like 3000, 4500, and 5000. what do these numbers mean? i am looking to get a compressed air tank for my 98 custom( which i plan to get an rt for ) and my piranha GTI eforce '04.
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Posted By: monty_sniper
Date Posted: 18 February 2006 at 9:31pm
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ok, hpa: well, you have your size tanks is ci and your psi. 3000,4500 and5000 are psi, the standard is about 68/4500. umm, hpa is really consistent, make sure the psi output is high pressure(800psi).
to get how many shots out of a tank, take the ci times 10for 3000,15for 4500, 20 for 5000
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Posted By: SuzukiRider987
Date Posted: 18 February 2006 at 9:57pm
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Aight. Hopefully, my next few paragraphs will have you understanding everything about the numbers concerned with HPA tanks. First off, there are three numbers you have to worry about, which I will explain in the next 3 paraghraphs....
1. First off, theres the size of the tank, usually in CI for Cubic Inches, or CU for Cubis Units (which are both the same thing here). So in the tank description, they'll usually list the CU of the tank, then the internal pressure of the tank (next paragraph). So, it might be 68/whatever, or 45/whatever. The first number being the size of the tank, in CU's. The bigger the tank meaning the more shots per tnak you'll get.
2. The next number you need to know is the internal pressure of the tank, usually either 3000 psi, 4500 psi, and sometimes 5000 psi. Like said above, it's usually the 2nd number in the x/y description (x being the size of the tank, y being the internal pressure of the tank). So you might have a 68/4500 tank, which is 68 CU's, and has an internal pressure of 4500 psi. The higher the internal pressure of the tank, the more shots per tank you're going to be able to get.
3. The third and final number you need to know is the output pressure of the tank. See, every HPA tank has a regulator on it, which take the internal pressure of the tank down to the specified output pressure. Tanks comes in two output pressures, 450 psi, or 850 psi. You'll want a 850 psi output (aka a High Output, compared to the 450 psi output which is aka a low output) tank for yor gun(s).
Hope I helped. And the average size tank is 68/4500.
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Posted By: mjicmike
Date Posted: 18 February 2006 at 10:07pm
SuzukiRider987 wrote:
Aight. Hopefully, my next few paragraphs will have you understanding everything about the numbers concerned with HPA tanks. First off, there are three numbers you have to worry about, which I will explain in the next 3 paraghraphs....
1. First off, theres the size of the tank, usually in CI for Cubic Inches, or CU for Cubis Units (which are both the same thing here). So in the tank description, they'll usually list the CU of the tank, then the internal pressure of the tank (next paragraph). So, it might be 68/whatever, or 45/whatever. The first number being the size of the tank, in CU's. The bigger the tank meaning the more shots per tnak you'll get.
2. The next number you need to know is the internal pressure of the tank, usually either 3000 psi, 4500 psi, and sometimes 5000 psi. Like said above, it's usually the 2nd number in the x/y description (x being the size of the tank, y being the internal pressure of the tank). So you might have a 68/4500 tank, which is 68 CU's, and has an internal pressure of 4500 psi. The higher the internal pressure of the tank, the more shots per tank you're going to be able to get.
3. The third and final number you need to know is the output pressure of the tank. See, every HPA tank has a regulator on it, which take the internal pressure of the tank down to the specified output pressure. Tanks comes in two output pressures, 450 psi, or 850 psi. You'll want a 850 psi output (aka a High Output, compared to the 450 psi output which is aka a low output) tank for yor gun(s).
Hope I helped. And the average size tank is 68/4500.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. But your explanation is more concise and detailed. 
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 18 February 2006 at 10:57pm
mjicmike wrote:
SuzukiRider987 wrote:
Aight. Hopefully, my next few paragraphs will have you understanding everything about the numbers concerned with HPA tanks. First off, there are three numbers you have to worry about, which I will explain in the next 3 paraghraphs....
1. First off, theres the size of the tank, usually in CI for Cubic Inches, or CU for Cubis Units (which are both the same thing here). So in the tank description, they'll usually list the CU of the tank, then the internal pressure of the tank (next paragraph). So, it might be 68/whatever, or 45/whatever. The first number being the size of the tank, in CU's. The bigger the tank meaning the more shots per tnak you'll get.
2. The next number you need to know is the internal pressure of the tank, usually either 3000 psi, 4500 psi, and sometimes 5000 psi. Like said above, it's usually the 2nd number in the x/y description (x being the size of the tank, y being the internal pressure of the tank). So you might have a 68/4500 tank, which is 68 CU's, and has an internal pressure of 4500 psi. The higher the internal pressure of the tank, the more shots per tank you're going to be able to get.
3. The third and final number you need to know is the output pressure of the tank. See, every HPA tank has a regulator on it, which take the internal pressure of the tank down to the specified output pressure. Tanks comes in two output pressures, 450 psi, or 850 psi. You'll want a 850 psi output (aka a High Output, compared to the 450 psi output which is aka a low output) tank for yor gun(s).
Hope I helped. And the average size tank is 68/4500.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. But your explanation is more concise and detailed. 
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Yeah. Suzuki is pretty dreamy.
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Posted By: Cirabisi2009
Date Posted: 19 February 2006 at 2:39pm
thanks a bunch guys.. i will be buying a hpa tank later this week, so i wont be stuck with co2 for much longer, your descriptions really helped. thanks again.
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Posted By: pythonman56
Date Posted: 19 February 2006 at 2:49pm
Can you fill your own tank with your air compressor? (dumb newb question)
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Posted By: monty_sniper
Date Posted: 19 February 2006 at 2:55pm
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pythonman56 wrote:
Can you fill your own tank with your air compressor? (dumb newb question)
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well you have to have one hell of an air compressor.
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Posted By: Lambert.
Date Posted: 19 February 2006 at 3:12pm
monty_sniper wrote:
pythonman56 wrote:
Can you fill your own tank with your air compressor? (dumb newb question)
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well you have to have one hell of an air compressor.
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Buy a dive tank. Get that filled and thn you cann fill you own bottle
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Posted By: dodan44
Date Posted: 19 February 2006 at 3:19pm
go to your local fire station. they fill it. or buy a dive tank.
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Posted By: Mr. Heckler
Date Posted: 19 February 2006 at 7:32pm
monty_sniper wrote:
pythonman56 wrote:
Can you fill your own tank with your air compressor? (dumb newb question)
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well you have to have one hell of an air compressor.
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Yeah it'd have to be pretty beastly.
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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 19 February 2006 at 9:03pm
dodan44 wrote:
go to your local fire station. they fill it. or buy a dive tank. |
Shoot, have you actually tried that? If I walked up to someone at the Fire Station and asked them to fill my Dive Tank, or Paintball tank from their cascade system they would laugh me out the door.
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Posted By: KALIS-PIMENTA
Date Posted: 19 February 2006 at 11:29pm
why 850 psi output and not 450 psi output
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 20 February 2006 at 12:28am
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KALIS-PIMENTA wrote:
why 850 psi output and not 450 psi output |
Because 450 wont work on a normal Tippmann.
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Posted By: monty_sniper
Date Posted: 20 February 2006 at 10:34am
hybrid-sniper wrote:
KALIS-PIMENTA wrote:
why 850 psi output and not 450 psi output |
Because 450 wont work on a normal Tippmann.
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a 450 would have to have a lpk on it.
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Posted By: MVM91
Date Posted: 20 February 2006 at 11:41am
pythonman56 wrote:
Can you fill your own tank with your air compressor? (dumb newb question)
| im pretty sure that a normal compressor's air has too much water vapor in it so it wouldnt be good.
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 21 February 2006 at 6:47pm
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MVM91 wrote:
pythonman56 wrote:
Can you fill your own tank with your air compressor? (dumb newb question)
| im pretty sure that a normal compressor's air has too much water vapor in it so it wouldnt be good. |
True, but a lack of a good output is more troubling.
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Posted By: hungrymonkey
Date Posted: 21 February 2006 at 7:36pm
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Snake6 wrote:
dodan44 wrote:
go to your local fire station. they fill it. or buy a dive tank. |
Shoot, have you actually tried that? If I walked up to someone at the Fire Station and asked them to fill my Dive Tank, or Paintball tank from their cascade system they would laugh me out the door.
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very true. The liability and the time needed to do it would keep most departments from doing it.
what connections are needed to use a scba fill compressor btw? I have access to one. I can fill up to 4500 psi. I would assume the fittings might be the same.
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Posted By: dodan44
Date Posted: 21 February 2006 at 8:07pm
Snake6 wrote:
dodan44 wrote:
go to your local fire station. they fill it. or buy a dive tank. | Shoot, have you actually tried that? If I walked up to someone at the Fire Station and asked them to fill my Dive Tank, or Paintball tank from their cascade system they would laugh me out the door. | i live in a small town and they dont care.
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Posted By: hungrymonkey
Date Posted: 22 February 2006 at 3:32am
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dodan44 wrote:
the door. | i live in a small town and they dont care.[/QUOTE]
what fittings do you use? does it attach directly to the scba fill station? i would buy an hpa tank if it would directly bolt up.
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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 22 February 2006 at 7:33am
hungrymonkey wrote:
what fittings do you use? does it attach directly to the scba fill station? i would buy an hpa tank if it would directly bolt up. |
Tanks at a Fire Station are filled using a Cascade System. Pretty much you attach the fill valves on the tanks onto hoses which are attached to the Larger Tanks, or the Compressor. the tanks are then filled.
Cascade Systems can look like anything the below picture.

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Posted By: hungrymonkey
Date Posted: 22 February 2006 at 2:52pm
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Snake6 wrote:
hungrymonkey wrote:
what fittings do you use? does it attach directly to the scba fill station? i would buy an hpa tank if it would directly bolt up. |
Tanks at a Fire Station are filled using a Cascade System. Pretty much you attach the fill valves on the tanks onto hoses which are attached to the Larger Tanks, or the Compressor. the tanks are then filled.
Cascade Systems can look like anything the below picture.

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Ok, but are the fittings on the hpa tank the same size as an SCBA tank? are there any adapters needed to fill the hpa from the SCBA fill station?
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Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 22 February 2006 at 3:33pm
Mr. Heckler wrote:
monty_sniper wrote:
pythonman56 wrote:
Can you fill your own tank with your air compressor? (dumb newb question)
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well you have to have one hell of an air compressor.
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Yeah it'd have to be pretty beastly. |
... they use an air compressor at sgt splatters...
i'm pretty sure it's an air compressor...
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Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 22 February 2006 at 8:47pm
monty_sniper wrote:
a 450 would have to have a lpk on it. |
Come again? You mean a Low Pressure Marker?
If your talking about the Tippmann LPK doesnt that require a HPA tank?
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Posted By: hungrymonkey
Date Posted: 24 February 2006 at 2:39pm
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Snake6 wrote:
hungrymonkey wrote:
what fittings do you use? does it attach directly to the scba fill station? i would buy an hpa tank if it would directly bolt up. |
Tanks at a Fire Station are filled using a Cascade System. Pretty much you attach the fill valves on the tanks onto hoses which are attached to the Larger Tanks, or the Compressor. the tanks are then filled.
Cascade Systems can look like anything the below picture.

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I took some pics of what I am trying to figure out. Plus posted a question regarding it. HPA tanks can only be filled through the quick connect fitting on the side right? Or can they be filled through the top portion that fits into the gun?
http://tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=150835&PN=1&TPN=1 - http://tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=150835& amp;PN=1&TPN=1
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