They say they have six left.

http://www.a-1paintballstore.com/Tippmann-Custom-98-E-bolt-Kit.html - http://www.a-1paintballstore.com/Tippmann-Custom-98-E-bolt-K it.html

And another (scroll to the bottom of the page when you get there)

http://www.packrat-toyz.com/Tippmann/parts_&_acces_.htm - http://www.packrat-toyz.com/Tippmann/parts_&_acces_.htm

Snake6 wrote: For those prices, you could buy a new gun.

Yep, a nice new Ion! But, as I look at it, I started with a very rugged, dependable used 98C. As I got better I added upgrades to keep me competitive.

When I moved from intermediate to advanced my choice became whether to cast aside the Tippmann, and all the other investment so far, and buy a new marker. Or, spend $200 to $300 to take the 98C into an absolutely new realm of operation.

At the time the "cheap" E-Bolts hadn't hit the market, but the kit had become scarce. I had to pay $229 for mine. The difference was night and day. Where before, a speedball game snap shot, when I could get my head out from behind the bunker, was one, and a miss allowed no time to get on target with  second shot. After the conversion my snap shots went to two or three shots with at least one on target. I could also now lay down suppressive fire allowing my team member to move up. I became the guy holding the opposition behind their bunkers.

Until then the intimidation factor had kept me out of many advanced games. With the E-Bolt the marker was fully up to the play opportunities that the high-end electros, or top of the line mechanicals, offered.

My expenditure, including the E-Bolt, to this point is about $450, which is more than an Ion, but a lot less that most Cockers, Palmer Blazers, and Angels. But, I also did it in increments, not one large outlay of the green stuff. I love what I have now!

Answer for both:

pbhalo wrote: what is the point of e bolts ???????????????????????????????????

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spudcrazy wrote: So this is NOT a sear tripper, by the looks of it?????  The ones for the new Custom Pro is a sear tripper, though, right???  Just curious....

The E-Bolt is a full conversion from a mechanical marker to a electro-pneumatic marker. Trigger actuation clicks a switch which activates the electronics to pulse the solenoid sending gas to a pneumatic ram which has replaced the Rear bolt(hammer).

A sear tripper (E-Grip or E-Trigger) uses a a solenoid to pull on the sear. The marker retains its mechanical function still cocking with gas blow back and all the same mass slamming back and forth in the marker.

Both the E-Bolt and the E-Trigger/Grip use an electric switch to activate the marker which dramatically lightens the trigger pull allowing walking of the trigger and very high rates of fire. The electronic circuitry also allows burst and full auto modes of operation.

Since the E-Bolt doesn't require blow-back gas pressure to re-cock, the operating pressure of the marker can be significantly reduced making a quieter marker and a few more shots from the gas bottle.

Bruce A. Frank wrote: Answer for both: pbhalo wrote: what is the point of e bolts ??????????????????????????????????? and spudcrazy wrote: So this is NOT a sear tripper, by the looks of it?????  The ones for the new Custom Pro is a sear tripper, though, right???  Just curious....  The E-Bolt is a full conversion from a mechanical marker to a electro-pneumatic marker. Trigger actuation clicks a switch which activates the electronics to pulse the solenoid sending gas to a pneumatic ram which has replaced the Rear bolt(hammer). A sear tripper (E-Grip or E-Trigger) uses a a solenoid to pull on the sear. The marker retains its mechanical function still cocking with gas blow back and all the same mass slamming back and forth in the marker. Both the E-Bolt and the E-Trigger/Grip use an electric switch to activate the marker which dramatically lightens the trigger pull allowing walking of the trigger and very high rates of fire. The electronic circuitry also allows burst and full auto modes of operation. Since the E-Bolt doesn't require blow-back gas pressure to re-cock, the operating pressure of the marker can be significantly reduced making a quieter marker and a few more shots from the gas bottle.

If it doesn't use any blowback gas to recock then what does it use?  Magic?  Also, how many shots are you getting from a full 68/4500? 

DanSD wrote: If it doesn't use any blowback gas to recock then what does it use?  Magic?  Also, how many shots are you getting from a full 68/4500?

It is a spring loaded pneumatic ram. Sort of like magic.

I run a 90/4500. There is a formula for expected number of shots. And I do not remember what number I was getting before I went to the low pressure set up(I operate my marker at 140psi). Back when I was testing the LP set up I found I was getting about 200 to 250 more shots than I was before the LPK. ( It took some effort to test and took several weeks to get my results because the field filling station did not fully pressurize to 4500 psi very often.) 

Nice find, again.  Now if only I had $235...

Bruce A. Frank wrote: DanSD wrote: If it doesn't use any blowback gas to recock then what does it use?  Magic?  Also, how many shots are you getting from a full 68/4500?  It is a spring loaded pneumatic ram. Sort of like magic. I run a 90/4500. There is a formula for expected number of shots. And I do not remember what number I was getting before I went to the low pressure set up(I operate my marker at 140psi). Back when I was testing the LP set up I found I was getting about 200 to 250 more shots than I was before the LPK. ( It took some effort to test and took several weeks to get my results because the field filling station did not fully pressurize to 4500 psi very often.)

Can you get more than 1985 shots on your 90/4500? 

DanSD wrote: Can you get more than 1985 shots on your 90/4500?

No.

DanSD wrote: If it doesn't use any blowback gas to recock then what does it use?  Magic?

A small amount of gas from the solenoid drives the ram forward, a spring inside the ram pulls it back; the reverse of the way a mechanically fired marker operates. Also, one other thing to note: the ram comes to a rest at the rear of the marker, no need to cock it before you fire (the battery box covers the hole for your cocking knob anyway).

Bruce A. Frank wrote: DanSD wrote: Can you get more than 1985 shots on your 90/4500?  No.

That does not sound very efficient then.  I thought the ebolt would give more shots per tank with the LPK. 

DanSD wrote: Bruce A. Frank wrote: DanSD wrote: Can you get more than 1985 shots on your 90/4500?  No. That does not sound very efficient then.  I thought the ebolt would give more shots per tank with the LPK.

From where did you get this 1985 number (essentially a whole case on one bottle)? The calculated shots per fill run about 1350.

But since I always go for the unlimited fills(all day $10 at my regular field), number of shots per full pressure fill has not been my primary concern. I wanted and got a very quiet marker...particularly when compared to the original 98C.

Bruce A. Frank wrote: DanSD wrote: Bruce A. Frank wrote: DanSD wrote: Can you get more than 1985 shots on your 90/4500?  No. That does not sound very efficient then.  I thought the ebolt would give more shots per tank with the LPK.  From where did you get this 1985 number (essentially a whole case on one bottle)? The calculated shots per fill run about 1350. But since I always go for the unlimited fills(all day $10 at my regular field), number of shots per full pressure fill has not been my primary concern. I wanted and got a very quiet marker...particularly when compared to the original 98C.

I'm getting some really good efficiency for a tippmann and I just wanted to know if the ebolt would make it any better. 

DanSD wrote: I'm getting some really good efficiency for a tippmann and I just wanted to know if the ebolt would make it any better.

98 or 98C with E-Bolt and LPK operating at less than 200 psi and 275 fps velocity is about as efficient as a Tippman can get with HPA.

It's sound's like we have two different definitions for efficiency.

im laughing at all these posts

i dont know why either

who would spend that on their tippy?

just sell your tippy dont get the ebolt and youll have enought money for maybe a Promaster

if you have to ask, you wouldn't understand.

DanSD wrote: It's sound's like we have two different definitions for efficiency.

And what is yours? I thought low gas consumption with quiet operation fit the bill. And again I must ask, where did this 1985 shots per tank come from? Are you getting that from your marker? If yes, how about divulging your set up?

Im just curious(Yep, Im a woodsballer. Dont pick on me, I respect the speedball way of paintballing Its just that I find MY paintball alot funner than yours) But how much better is the E-Bolt compared to an E-Trigger, Plus I know the Bolts are outrageously expensive but why did Tippmann discontinue them?

I would say that Tippmann discontinued them because they can be tricky to install, and also make it more difficult to assemble/disassemble your marker later. They also have alot of small wire connections that, if handled roughly, can be easily broken. Overall, though, the kit is worth it; what I like best is that it dramatically reduces the recoil and noise of your marker. Also, even without an LPK, you can substantially reduce your operating pressure (because you no longer need to worry about blow-back gas), making it more effecient and consistent.

The problem that I see with Tippmann in general is that they have been trying to simplify too much. Tippmanns, while reliable, durable, and infinitely customizable, are simply not as blazingly fast as other markers (without serious modding, that is), and also much heavier. The closest that Tippmann ever came to making their markers compare to other high-end guns was the E-bolt, but they have given up on that. As a replacement, we now have the E-trigger, which is simpler, replaces fewer parts, and has all the components contained in the grip. The E-bolt had parts spread all through the marker, with wires and gas lines connecting four major components, and I am sure that Tippmann has had to repair ALOT of E-bolts over the years (hell, I've had them work on mine). Despite all that, I would never take a E-trigger over the E-bolt; it is simply the highest performance accesory you can add to your 98C.

evillepaintball wrote: wasnt someone selling Psycho Ballistics ebolts for around $60 a little while ago?

Yep, I even bought one as  parts back up kit for my GTA E-Bolt. But they are long gone...by about 4-5 months. Those were for the M98 but things were easily modified to fit the 98C.