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Topic: Upgrade more?
Posted By: SpecterM4A1
Subject: Upgrade more?
Date Posted: 26 February 2006 at 1:19am
I was wondering what else i should do to my a-5(check my sig) to increase its accuracy without switching to nitrogen.  Im getting a 14" Lapco Bigshot and most likely a stock(helps alot with red dot)



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Posted By: mjicmike
Date Posted: 26 February 2006 at 1:30am

Originally posted by SpecterM4A1 SpecterM4A1 wrote:

I was wondering what else i should do to my a-5(check my sig) to increase its accuracy without switching to nitrogen.  Im getting a 14" Lapco Bigshot and most likely a stock(helps alot with red dot)

that should suffice if its for woodsball.  And about the stock, ask if there is a way for you to try, and get a feel of the different stocks available, providing if you are going to purchase the stock at a local paintball store.  If not, and the purchase will be online, go to PBreview.com and see what other consumers think about the different stocks used. 



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A5 Rfs Dwg triggr
Ricochet R5
8"Lapco Bigsht/14"CP Classic
Palmers Stab.
Lapco uni-mount
DOP bullet drop fwd
PMI 88/4500

Woods
Flatline/14"Lapco Bigsht
CMI Thunder pig reg.
Remote adj. stk


Posted By: cus98tom
Date Posted: 26 February 2006 at 8:49am
A second Palmers would do wonders , two-stage regulation increases the consisancy by 25times (2500%) this is one of the reasons HPA markers are so consistant , they use two regulators, the one built into the tank and a secondary Palmers , CP etc. Some will say don't bother , but the setup is sound and it's your money.


Posted By: SuzukiRider987
Date Posted: 26 February 2006 at 10:41am
Buy good paint.


Posted By: cadet_sergeant
Date Posted: 26 February 2006 at 10:52am
this wont help accuracy but polish the internals, it'll help your cycle rate. just please dont start a thread asking how to do it. use the search bottom at the top of the window search for "polished internals" or some thing like that, and search here in upgrades and customizing.


Posted By: FyreFly
Date Posted: 26 February 2006 at 1:07pm
Save your money for paint and go play!

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System X NME LE
WGP Orracle Cocker
Tippmann A-5 E-Grip & LPK
Tippmann 98C Flatline & LPK


Posted By: SpecterM4A1
Date Posted: 26 February 2006 at 7:30pm

Originally posted by cus98tom cus98tom wrote:

A second Palmers would do wonders , two-stage regulation increases the consisancy by 25times (2500%) this is one of the reasons HPA markers are so consistant , they use two regulators, the one built into the tank and a secondary Palmers , CP etc. Some will say don't bother , but the setup is sound and it's your money.

Really? I didn't realize how much a second palmer stabilizer would help.  So, right now i have a male palmer stabilizer, would i have to get a female palmer stabilzer if i wanted a second one? Or does it matter?



Posted By: cus98tom
Date Posted: 26 February 2006 at 10:27pm

Yes a female either mounted on the tank or in place of the ASA. Firefly did have a good suggestion also . no substitute for good paint.

Check out the palmers web site look under FAQ , Palmer's an Air  Miestro



Posted By: SpecterM4A1
Date Posted: 04 March 2006 at 7:24pm
Well, i just bought the 14" BigShot and SAW stock.  I'm also gonna buy a new Anti-siphon tank from a friend for real cheap.


Posted By: cus98tom
Date Posted: 04 March 2006 at 7:47pm
Anti-siphon tank and Palmers- good setup


Posted By: Macleod52
Date Posted: 04 March 2006 at 8:25pm
Any reason in particular as to why you don't want to switch to nitro? You can get a 72ci 3000 Pure Energy tank for $63.99 from actionvillage.com. It would be worth considering at least.

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Posted By: TRAVELER
Date Posted: 04 March 2006 at 9:13pm
HPA should be second on the list behind getting a new barrel. No matter what mods you do with the gas system, C02 will never be as consistent as HPA.

Everything else on your setup looks good.



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For I will wander to and fro,
I'll go where I no one do know,


Posted By: gomez583
Date Posted: 04 March 2006 at 10:51pm
I don't think you can use a remote coil and an anti-siphon tank.

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Tippmann 98 Custom Pro E
Ricochet Apache LCD
Tapco T6 Stock
10 Pc Empire Barrel Kit
Low Pressure Kit
Palmer Male Stabilizer
Ape Board
Ape Trigger
D H Titanium Hammer (soon)


Posted By: SpecterM4A1
Date Posted: 05 March 2006 at 12:11am

Originally posted by gomez583 gomez583 wrote:

I don't think you can use a remote coil and an anti-siphon tank.

Why not?  I don't see what the problem would be.



Posted By: SpecterM4A1
Date Posted: 05 March 2006 at 12:42am

Originally posted by Macleod52 Macleod52 wrote:

Any reason in particular as to why you don't want to switch to nitro? You can get a 72ci 3000 Pure Energy tank for $63.99 from actionvillage.com. It would be worth considering at least.

Well the inconvience of having to drive 25 minutes to the nearest paintball place to get nitro. Instead i just go to the local sports authority and get co2.



Posted By: TheMedievalMan
Date Posted: 05 March 2006 at 3:26am

Look for a scuba shop that is closer, sometimes some places will fill it for you.  Or get a scuba tank and make a fill station.  So you only have to make a few trips during a long period.

-TheMedievalMan



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Why make a one shot kill? When you can just spray and take out the whole team?


Posted By: hansolo8221
Date Posted: 05 March 2006 at 4:34am

DO NOT get an anti-siphon tank if you are using a remote line. The whole purpose about anti-siphon is that, in a CO2 tank, the bottom 1/3 or so will be compressed down to liquid form. An anti-siphon tube extends inside your tank and bends upwards so that the hole the CO2 escapes through is at the TOP of the tank, and therefore draws out the most expanded, gaseous CO2. However, if you have a remote line, then your tank is sitting vertically in your harness, and therefore you are only drawing gas from the top of your tank anyway. Installing a tube into the tank would only draw gas from LOWER in the tank, therefore getting more liquid. If somehow you have a harness that holds your tank any other way then vertically then this will not apply, but most tank harnesses are vertical. Vertical positioning of an anti-siphon tube is CRITICAL; I installed my own anti-siphon, and aligned it so that it sits at the high point of the tank when screwed into my ASA. Any tank with a pre-installed tube will have a marking on it, and you MUST be sure that this is oriented upwards, even if that means not screwing it in the ASA all the way. Keeping an anti-siphon tank oriented properly in a harness would be virtually impossible.

Having your tank vertical (which acts as anti-siphon), and a remote line (which allows room for expansion, like an x-chamber), plus a Palmers Stabilizer gives you just about the most consistency you will get off CO2. I use a Stab and anti-siphon tank; it works pretty well. I would also have recommended an RVA, but since you have a stock that is not an option for you.

Adding another Stab for two stage regulation would be good; the best way to do that would be take the ASA off your remote line on the end that attaches to your tank, and replace it with the female Stab (so your tank screws into the stab on one end, and on the other end another stab goes into the gun). However, the female Stab costs about $80. As Macleod mentioned, a HPA tank would be $64; it already has a reg on it (getting you two stage regulation), and HPA does not have the problems CO2 does (liquid, expansion, freezing, etc. etc.) One other benefit to HPA tanks that I personally like and many people don't mention: the fill nipple. You don't have to unscrew them from your ASA or even un-gas your marker to fill your HPA tank; you just pop the Quick-Disconnect hose from the fill station onto the fill nipple on your tank, and your good to go. Much easier than filling CO2. Also, all HPA tanks have a gauge, so you know how much air you have; great alternative to having to leave in the middle of a game because you ran out of CO2.

Since your using a remote anyway I would definitely recommend looking into the HPA tank. If it was on your gun size and weight would be a large factor to consider, but since you are carrying it in a harness a little extra bulk shouldn't be that much of a problem, considering all the benefits you will receive.



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Tippmann A-5
12" J&J Ceramic Barrel
J&J aluminum .45 style grip
KAPP micro apocalypse drop
Empire On/Off bottomline
JCS Rear velocity adjuster
Palmer Stabilizer
PMI 12oz CO2 with anti-siphon


Posted By: dead-eye_tippy
Date Posted: 05 March 2006 at 8:50am
Get rid of it all and get HPA, it is ALOT better than CO2, and about the inconvenience, i think ur just lazy.  It takes effort to play.

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Gear:
Smart Parts Ion
Tech T Bolt
CCM Feedneck
NDZ Roller Trigger
CP Razor Drop Forward
Virtue Board
CP ASA On/Off
Freak Kit 14"
360 QEV
Shocker Regulator


Posted By: Gabster08
Date Posted: 05 March 2006 at 10:36am
u could get a rocket cock, or a rear cocking system from beavertail. those are cool, or like dead eye tippy said, get hpa.

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Setup:
Super Blue Nexus Ego
Ul barrel
45/45 pmi
vlocity


Posted By: ANARCHY_SCOUT
Date Posted: 05 March 2006 at 11:29am
New Barrel > HPA > regulator > stock.

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Gamertag: Kataklysm999


Posted By: SpecterM4A1
Date Posted: 05 March 2006 at 1:52pm
Thanx hansolo and everyone else for all the help.  Im now thinking about getting a HPA tank, probably the one Macleod52 recomended. 


Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 05 March 2006 at 10:00pm
Originally posted by dead-eye_tippy dead-eye_tippy wrote:

Get rid of it all and get HPA, it is ALOT better than CO2, and about the inconvenience, i think ur just lazy.  It takes effort to play.


Sorry, but I used HPA yesterday, and it wasn't any more consistant or accurate than what I was shooting with co2 weeks ago.

I'm starting to believe one of the few reasons HPA is any more consistant is due to the built on reg...  I know there is science behind it, but if you have two stage regulated co2, it should be close enough to HPA to suffice...  It seems the barrel and paintballs are what make the gun accurate, and the best shaped paintballs are still gonna have slight edges.

Getting a second palmers sounds like a great idea :)


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Tippmann A-5
Polished Internals
E-Grip
Ape Board
JCS Blade Trigger
QEV
8" Bigshot + Apex
Ricochet R-5 / Tac Cap
Palmers Stabilizer
68/4500 Crossfire



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