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Topic: People in/was in Armed Service. *update*
Posted By: Panda Man
Subject: People in/was in Armed Service. *update*
Date Posted: 03 March 2006 at 1:02am
Yea, latley I've been talking to some Army Recruiters and I've basically signed on, all I have to do is get my physical, and make sure my background doesn't have anything shady on it.

Anyways... I'll probably joining the Reserve, and I was just wondering, what some of you you guys liked and some things you didn't like about it.


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Posted By: Rock Slide
Date Posted: 03 March 2006 at 1:25am
Hated cleaning the head... Scrubbing the toilet sucks.  But I sure got some good schooling out of the 6-years I was in.

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Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 03 March 2006 at 1:30am
^ Yea thats alot of the reason why I'm joining, I wont be doing anything for the next 4 years, and I'm kinda broke to pay for schooling myself(want to get my BS in Criminal Justice), I want to become a Cop and by doing this It would probably be really good to have Military Training on my resumé, and I think it would be pretty cool to be an MP as well 

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Posted By: ShortyBP
Date Posted: 03 March 2006 at 8:07am
Originally posted by Panda Man Panda Man wrote:

and I think it
would be pretty cool to be an MP as well 
After my first year of college... I was inches from recruiting... was interested in being an MP... but the recruiter told me I was too short.


Posted By: cadet_sergeant
Date Posted: 03 March 2006 at 8:51am

being to short? thats BS, he was imposing personal opinions, unless your legaly a midget.

31B, same MOS me and my brother choose. what kind of signing bonus are you looking at? ASVAB scores (just the line score)?

you might wanna look into the national guard, right now in arizona reserves are giving out 7k signing bonuses, national guard is giving out 20k, thats i think is worth looking at.

you'll probley be at http://www.ftleonardwood.com/ - Fort Leonard Wood, Missouri . keep me posted if you go threw with it, my ship day in june 20th.



Posted By: ShortyBP
Date Posted: 03 March 2006 at 8:59am
Originally posted by cadet_sergeant cadet_sergeant wrote:

being to short? thats BS, he was imposing personal opinions, unless your legaly a midget
Could be he was BS'ing, but as a recruiter who is trying to make a quota... what purpose would that serve?

Made sense to me at the time. I suppose you'd want someone to meet certain physical criteria if they are to be charged with handling disorderly soldiers/etc.
Whatever. Enlisted life wasn't for me, anyway.


Posted By: Pump Scout
Date Posted: 03 March 2006 at 9:07am
Liked:
-Shooting on the government's dime
-Blowing things up
-Doing the job in the real world, rather than watching it on TV
-Most of the people I met
-Extra pay from drills
-Being the baddest platoon in the battalion (Scout Platoon!)
-Learning weapon handling from the best in the business. Hunter's safety courses have nothing on what the military will teach you about firearm safety!
-Got to do my time in between trips to the sandbox. Timing really is everything
-How the Army was prior to 1996. There were a lot of good times in those earlier years.

Disliked:
-Some of the jerks I met, most of whom I found were paper-pushers
-Conforming to the military method. At first this wasn't bad, but near the end of my 6 years, it was awfully tough
-Having to be gone from home for two or more weeks each summer. Again, not bad at first, really sucked once I had a family of my own
-Being stuck following orders of people I didn't and couldn't respect. Some of the officers in the military are really useless lumps of flesh. See: Animal House, Niedermeyer
-The Army's whims. They were really baffling sometimes
-Never getting to do what I was trained for "for real". In spite of how great it is that I didn't have to go to Iraq, I've seen buddies that have, and some who were there both in 1990 and with today's situation. I feel a twinge of guilt that I'm not there with them... these are the guys I trained with.
-What the Army became around 1996. The Guard became an awful lot like the Reserves around 96

Addendum:
I started out my military service in the Army Reserve, figuring that it'd be easy to go active from there if I really enjoyed it. When I found a Guard unit that was much closer, I asked to transfer to them, because my car wasn't up to the drive every month. The paper-pushers stalled for 5 months, finally transferring me after an Annual Training session. They tried one last stab, though, claiming I'd been issued two complete sets of field gear that would have to be turned in. I'd been issued ONE set. Moving on, I found the Guard appealing because the platoon was MUCH more closely-knit than my Reserve unit was. The Guard was like a sociable club with guns and camoflauge, whereas the Reserve was like the Army but only on the weekend. That's not to say that the Guard couldn't get the job done - we consistantly scored higher in our skills tests than some active-duty guys, and much higher than other Guard and Reserve units. Other things that appealed to me about the Guard is that the government can only activate Guard units at the battalion level. If you're going to war, you're going with the guys you've trained with. In the Reserves, you can show up to a drill, and they can call off three names and tell you that you've been activated, pack your stuff, have fun in Afghanistan. Another thing that was great about the Guard was the local-real-world mission. Disaster relief and such. We had a train derail near here once, carrying something that was toxic and nasty. Town had to be evacuated. The unit asked for volunteers to drive our APC's into the town, ferrying people in to retrieve their pets, their checkbooks, whatever they didn't grab on the way out a few days earlier. We were asked because we were in the area, and had the vehicles... ones that could withstand an explosion or chemical event. Our entire platoon volunteered, and 6 of them got to go help. That's a feel-good hero-type mission.

However, in the end of THAT, the paper-pushers caught up with me again. When you enlist in the Reserve or Guard, you have a 6/2 contract. 6 years of doing drills, 2 years in the Inactive Ready Reserve. When I transfered from the Reserve to the Guard, I specifically made sure my contract stated that the 6/2 was to remain in place, and time served in the Reserve counted toward the 6. At my last required drill, I went to the personnel sergeant to re-up. I'd been going back and forth on the decision, but finally decided that I had a real shot finally of making sergeant myself, and I really could have used the $3000 bonus. Anyway, the guy told me I still had 2 years left on my contract. They weren't going to honor the specific clause I'd had put into the paperwork. If memory serves, I told him to perform an anatomically-impossible self-fulfilling carnal feat, and walked out of his office. Went back to my platoon, talked to the rest of my guys, including my platoon sergeant and our LT. They all told me I was right in telling the guy to fudge himself, and that they would have done the same. So, I "retired" from the military after 6 years.

Also, to explain the above "1996" issue: When I got into the Guard, it was a lot of fun. The platoon partied together anywhere we were. We'd slip out to the training base in packs of 3 vehicles, following non-convoy routes, and show up two hours before the convoy with the rest of the company. Nobody messed with the Scouts, because it was known that people who tried to do that wound up duct-taped to trees, and their grid coordinates would be left on their pillows for their platoon sergeant to find in the morning. Around 96, the battalion really cracked down on our wildness. We were ordered to convoy at 45mph with the company. No beer on the training base. The company party was the only social event that was to be acceptable, and that event sucked bad. Basically, it became just like the Reserves had been. Attitudes suffered, and our test results dropped. It's not that we weren't training as much or as hard, but we weren't having nearly as much fun doing it all. The leadership never really recognized that they'd effectively killed our team spirit, and it showed in our performances.

Sorry for the long ramble, but this is one of those life choices that you don't always get to see the full picture on until you've signed your papers. It's a great choice, if you can do it. Not everyone is cut out to be a soldier. We only graduated 2 out of every 3 guys who started with us at Knox.

EDIT - One more VERY important bit of info: Keep every piece of paper you get from the government. Payslips (LES), supply forms, everything. You never know when you'll need to back up your story with proof. I knew a guy who had 20 years in, went to retire, and was told he'd only been in for 18. His payslips showed he'd been in for 20, but the Army hadn't kept all their copies. He had, and was able to retire. Had he not had those, he'd have had to put in another two years. ALSO, get everything in writing. Remember, your recruiter is a salesman, and doesn't really have YOUR best interest in mind. If they need combat engineers, they'll try to work you toward that sometimes. Tell you how great this MOS or that MOS is. Choose the job you'd want to do if you had to do it for real. And get it in writing.

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Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 03 March 2006 at 9:39am
Originally posted by cadet_sergeant cadet_sergeant wrote:

being to short? thats BS, he was imposing personal opinions, unless your legaly a midget.

31B, same MOS me and my brother choose. what kind of signing bonus are you looking at? ASVAB scores (just the line score)?

you might wanna look into the national guard, right now in arizona reserves are giving out 7k signing bonuses, national guard is giving out 20k, thats i think is worth looking at.

you'll probley be at http://www.ftleonardwood.com/ - Fort Leonard Wood, Missouri . keep me posted if you go threw with it, my ship day in june 20th.



I'll be looking at an E4 probably, which is going from somthing like $1127-E1 to $1846-E4 because my ASVAB score was pretty high-73, and I got a 4 on the Job oppratunity soon. The recruiter tolled me, that my Job is in a Demand, but it's not a crazy demand like Infantry, he tryed to sell me Infantry and all these bonuses I'd get by going with them blah... blah... blah..., or the airborne, but I tolled him I like my feet on the ground more then a rope or a parachute and he just kind of laughed. The only thing that is going suck for a little while is I'm ganna miss my little lady


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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 03 March 2006 at 10:35am
73?

Are you sure you got your numbers right? Is that your GT score? If so thats not really high.


Posted By: rob_ster_in
Date Posted: 03 March 2006 at 11:32am

If your score is 73 thats not Hi at all you should have at least 100 + ,

I loved the Service I was in for 12 years. I'd do it again but My kids talked me out of it. I loved the places I was at and the friends I made. I hated the cuts during the Clinton years

 

 



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Posted By: mjicmike
Date Posted: 03 March 2006 at 12:58pm
Had an ASVAB score of 194 but that was with the Navy, and was guaranteed an OS (operation specialists) job but lost my "A" school due to an incident in bootcamp.  With that score, what rating/position were you offered ? 

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Posted By: whack-a-mole
Date Posted: 03 March 2006 at 2:30pm

Currently I'm AFROTC. I can't wait to comission.

pm Gerbil of Doom if you have any questions.



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Posted By: GThomas
Date Posted: 03 March 2006 at 2:43pm
I'm only in ROTC right now but I have figured a lot out already, plus i have learned a lot from my active duty instructors. Keep every piece of paper the Army gives you. Once you're in don't volunteer for anything unless you know every possible bit of information about what you are volunteering for. Recruiters are salesmen despite they will do everything in their power to convince you other wise. They are not your friend and can care less about you. Push hard to get what you want. My friend in the Navy walked into the recruiters office and said he wanted to be a Sea Bee, the recruiter said he didn't know if he could make that happen. So my friend said, "fine, then I'll go across the hall and join the Army." The recruiter changed his mind very quickly and now my friend is a Sea Bee. Learn to like running and marching because you will do a lot of it. Think about if joining is the right thing for you, and I mean think about it for a really hard for a long time. I know to many people who rushed into making a decision.


Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 04 March 2006 at 2:49pm
Yea, I've thought about it since I was around 17, but... There is a slight problem latley... My Eye Sight isn't the best, also I have had a Surgery that may Disqualify me... I'm just giving it a Shot, no harm if I can't join and it would be really awsome if I could. 

Edit: Yea I basically Tolled them if I can't be an MP I don't really have any intrest in the Military at all


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Posted By: whack-a-mole
Date Posted: 04 March 2006 at 2:57pm
There is other cool stuff in the military other than just mp. I wouldn't worry too much about your eyesight unless it's just down right terrible or unless you want to be a pilot.

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Posted By: holysmartone
Date Posted: 04 March 2006 at 3:25pm

I enlisted in the Marine Corps.

Waiting to go to boot camp on june 5th.

Honestly, if your enlisting for the singing bonus, I dont want you in my branch. Thank god the Corps doesnt give signing bonus's very often. If your joining for the money, your an idiot. You should be joining because you want to be a soldier, not becuase you need cash. I dont want to be fighting next to someone whose only here for the money.

But I definatly cannot wait to go to boot. DEP is a lot of fun. Boot is going to be sweet.



Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 04 March 2006 at 3:30pm
Originally posted by holysmartone holysmartone wrote:

I enlisted in the Marine Corps.

Waiting to go to boot camp on june 5th.

Honestly, if your enlisting for the singing bonus, I dont want you in my branch. Thank god the Corps doesnt give signing bonus's very often. If your joining for the money, your an idiot. You should be joining because you want to be a soldier, not becuase you need cash. I dont want to be fighting next to someone whose only here for the money.

But I definatly cannot wait to go to boot. DEP is a lot of fun. Boot is going to be sweet.



Heh... If the Military didn't offer those Bonuses, I wouldn't think alot of those people would be in there, Hell alot of those people when going didn't want to be one, but boot camp teaches you all those things, also some people going in don't even like the Military but eventually it turns into somthing you really enjoy.


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Posted By: dodan44
Date Posted: 04 March 2006 at 4:34pm
SEALs rule. the training is great if you can take it. me and my uncle were in in. well worth the time. obstacle courses suck. if you survive hell week you can survive it all. be prepared for sleep deprivation. during hell week i think i got around 5 hours of sleep in 7 days. the training is worth it though.

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Posted By: TRAVELER
Date Posted: 04 March 2006 at 5:43pm
Originally posted by holysmartone holysmartone wrote:

I enlisted in the Marine Corps.

Waiting to go to boot camp on june 5th.

Honestly, if your enlisting for the singing bonus, I dont want you in my branch. Thank god the Corps doesnt give signing bonus's very often. If your joining for the money, your an idiot. You should be joining because you want to be a soldier, not becuase you need cash. I dont want to be fighting next to someone whose only here for the money.

But I definatly cannot wait to go to boot. DEP is a lot of fun. Boot is going to be sweet.



I'm impressed by the fact that you joined the Marine Corps, but you should shut up. Just because someone receives an enlistment bonus doesn't mean that they are going to be a bad soldier.

The Army doesn't give bonuses to everyone, only to those who are exceptional, or who are willing to take an assigment that is difficult or high risk.

RLTW


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Posted By: WUNgUN
Date Posted: 04 March 2006 at 5:52pm
Originally posted by TRAVELER TRAVELER wrote:


Originally posted by holysmartone holysmartone wrote:

I enlisted in the Marine Corps.


Waiting to go to boot camp on june 5th.


Honestly, if your enlisting for the singing bonus, I dont want you in my branch. Thank god the Corps doesnt give signing bonus's very often. If your joining for the money, your an idiot. You should be joining because you want to be a soldier, not becuase you need cash. I dont want to be fighting next to someone whose only here for the money.


But I definatly cannot wait to go to boot. DEP is a lot of fun. Boot is going to be sweet.

I'm impressed by the fact that you joined the Marine Corps, but you should shut up. Just because someone receives an enlistment bonus doesn't mean that they are going to be a bad soldier. The Army doesn't give bonuses to everyone, only to those who are exceptional, or who are willing to take an assigment that is difficult or high risk. RLTW

Not exactly, especially in today's Army. As a teacher, I am shocked by what they are giving "my kids" and what "kind" of kids we are talking about. When I joined the Marine Corps in 1993 I got (bad word)ed! I was a legacy so there was no haggling or games. When I went to MOS school I quickly realized that Marines in the same MOS received bonuses and more money for college (Marine Corps college fund in addition to MGIB) than I did. I scored really well on the ASVAB and before the end of my first year I was offered a "chance" to go to the Naval Academy, if I agreed to extend my contract to about 10 years. I have no regrets or student loans, so it all worked out in the end!

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Posted By: TRAVELER
Date Posted: 04 March 2006 at 6:10pm
The bonuses and programs in the military vary on a nearly daily basis. The demand for a particular MOS determines the standards for bonuses, added to the particular enlistee's education and test scores.

When I enlisted I wanted to be in the infantry, and it wasn't available! Who would have thought that in the entire history of the Army that one couldn't get into the infantry?

I had a good score on my ASVAB, and some college under my belt, but infantry was not an option. I ended up becoming a medic, which was for the best anyway, my medical training has come in handy on many occassions.




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Posted By: WUNgUN
Date Posted: 05 March 2006 at 9:13pm
Originally posted by TRAVELER TRAVELER wrote:

The bonuses and programs in the military vary on a nearly daily basis. The demand for a particular MOS determines the standards for bonuses, added to the particular enlistee's education and test scores. When I enlisted I wanted to be in the infantry, and it wasn't available! Who would have thought that in the entire history of the Army that one couldn't get into the infantry? I had a good score on my ASVAB, and some college under my belt, but infantry was not an option. I ended up becoming a medic, which was for the best anyway, my medical training has come in handy on many occassions.

Doesn't that contradict your previous post about bonuses?

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Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 08 March 2006 at 12:21am
Welp, I'm Basically all signed in all I have to do now is take my physical, and get sworn in and I'm property of the Government. 

Edit: Yea, MP is looking for spots, but if for some odd reason I can't get that I asked for Cavalry Scout.


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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 08 March 2006 at 12:30am
I went about the recruiters today. The whole bit was actualy kinda funny.

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Posted By: warman
Date Posted: 08 March 2006 at 1:59pm
Explain to me how you think you are gonna start as an
E-4, unless you have a college degree you arn't gonna get higher than e-3, and in order to get e-3 your gonna need some referalls(ie talk some other suckers into enlisting)

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Posted By: warman
Date Posted: 08 March 2006 at 2:01pm
and i don't think the reserves has cav scouts, I know the National Guard has cav scouts.

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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 08 March 2006 at 2:13pm
Originally posted by dodan44 dodan44 wrote:

SEALs rule. the training is great if you can take it. me and my uncle were in in. well worth the time. obstacle courses suck. if you survive hell week you can survive it all. be prepared for sleep deprivation. during hell week i think i got around 5 hours of sleep in 7 days. the training is worth it though.
I didn't know 15 was the age to be able to go into the SEALs.


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Posted By: chronic future
Date Posted: 08 March 2006 at 2:15pm
Originally posted by Benjichang Benjichang wrote:

Originally posted by dodan44 dodan44 wrote:

SEALs rule. the training is great if you can take it. me and my uncle were in in. well worth the time. obstacle courses suck. if you survive hell week you can survive it all. be prepared for sleep deprivation. during hell week i think i got around 5 hours of sleep in 7 days. the training is worth it though.
I didn't know 15 was the age to be able to go into the SEALs.

seriously, dodan stop hurting the forum.


Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 08 March 2006 at 3:19pm
Originally posted by warman warman wrote:

Explain to me how you think you are gonna start as an
E-4, unless you have a college degree you arn't gonna get higher than e-3, and in order to get e-3 your gonna need some referalls(ie talk some other suckers into enlisting)


Yea, I AM an E3, I just got an Extra bonus for having an Aquantince of mine sign up, he tolled me we'd "bump you up" but I didn't think he was thinking a Pay bonus at the start, I thought he meant promotion.

Cavalry Scouts are aviable for Reserve, but they usally close this off unless there is a Shortage. plus I think I'm basically stuck as an MP.


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Posted By: Pump Scout
Date Posted: 08 March 2006 at 3:55pm
Yep, available Guard and Reserve. It's just a matter of finding a unit close to you with an opening.

BTW, be prepared to get stuck being platoon guide or squad leader at basic, at least initially. Read that as "until your Drill Sergeant decides you've screwed up". We had an E3 that started as PG because of his rank, and was quickly replaced with an E1 who had a much better grasp on being a soldier.

If you can find a way to go Cav, it's a lot of fun. Tough job, since you have to be everything armor, forward observers, infantry, and several other MOS's are. However, it's really rewarding when you do the job, and do it right!

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Posted By: warman
Date Posted: 08 March 2006 at 4:06pm
My bad i wasn't aware of any reserve units with 19d. Just a warning about the reserves, right now i am getting screwed out of my tuition assistance, because the federal government can't afford to pay up. But at least i still am getting the GI Bill + Kicker

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Posted By: TRAVELER
Date Posted: 08 March 2006 at 7:13pm
Originally posted by WUNgUN WUNgUN wrote:

Originally posted by TRAVELER TRAVELER wrote:

The bonuses and programs in the military vary on a nearly daily basis. The demand for a particular MOS determines the standards for bonuses, added to the particular enlistee's education and test scores. When I enlisted I wanted to be in the infantry, and it wasn't available! Who would have thought that in the entire history of the Army that one couldn't get into the infantry? I had a good score on my ASVAB, and some college under my belt, but infantry was not an option. I ended up becoming a medic, which was for the best anyway, my medical training has come in handy on many occassions.

Doesn't that contradict your previous post about bonuses?


No it doesn't. Bonuses are not granted with every job. If you want to be a Ranger, or in the Special Forces, you will get no bonus.

Nowadays you'll get a bonus if you enlist in the regular infantry, when I first tried to enlist, I couldn't get infantry, let alone a bonus to go with it.


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Posted By: TRAVELER
Date Posted: 08 March 2006 at 7:23pm
19D is not a high speed MOS. One of my friends just graduated  basic training and is getting ready to start the Cav scout training at Ft Knox. He had an ASVAB score of 34, and he enlisted on a waiver. Under normal circumstances (non wartime) they wouldn't have allowed him to enlist.

BE CAREFUL what job you choose. Nothing, and I mean nothing is final until after your physical. After you pass your physical an NCO will show you a list of the jobs that are available to you. After you choose your job, you'll be asked to sign your life away and take the oath.

If you aren't offered the job you want, WALK AWAY, do not sign or swear to anything. You can always go back when the job you want does become available.


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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 08 March 2006 at 9:01pm
Lets see as an old 11B Airborne Ranger type we can look at the following

1. Good- falling out of a perfectly good aircraft at high altitude.....
1. Bad- Parachute malfunction.

2. Good- Travelling to exotic lands
2. Bad- getting shot at by the locals

3. Good- Dangling from a helicopter from a rope 110 feet in the air
3. Bad- Helicopter flying too low, too fast making you a human hedge clipper

4. Good- Finding that proper position for a night inadvertant water landing.
4. Bad- Releasing main 20feet in air expecting to hit water but hit a black topped road in the woods (they do look alike at night ask any paratrooper)

5. Good- The memories of times and comrades
5. Bad- losing track of those freinds as the years pass.

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Posted By: Gpacker4686
Date Posted: 08 March 2006 at 9:36pm
well i joined the PA National Guard. Like someone else said the signing bonus in the guard is $20000. I don;t know about any other state but here in PA we get 100% collage tution, $4500 fedural tution assistance, up to $3000 for the palgrant(i think thats what it is). Every month in collage you get your base pay for drill, plus 297(i think thats what its up to(its 290 something), and if you score above a 50 on the asvab you get an extra $200 a month. My MOS is 92 alpha but i am going to have to get it changed to 63 Bravo after the new m-tow goes through.

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Posted By: Pump Scout
Date Posted: 09 March 2006 at 12:07am
Here's something else to bear in mind - unless the rules have changed since I "retired", when you're Guard or Reserve, the GI Bill works different than it does for active guys. Guard/Reserve troops can only use the GIB while they're serving. Once you're out, you lose the benefit, along with the tuition reimbursement (100% in Wisconsin), and any other benefits. You also can't use some state VA programs, although once you hit 6 years of Guard/Reserve service, you're eligible for federal VA things.

More of the small print that nobody mentions until you find yourself really counting on things.

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Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 09 March 2006 at 9:16am
Originally posted by TRAVELER TRAVELER wrote:


If you aren't offered the job you want, WALK AWAY, do not sign or swear to anything. You can always go back when the job you want does become available.



I'll remember that. Thanx alot

pump - Well I'm going Active for 4 years, then once thats finished and I still enjoy it, I'll probably be signing a few more years with the Reserve, and if everything keeps going to plan I'll just keep signing more years.


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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 09 March 2006 at 1:50pm
I just took my ASVAB yesterday, finished in 45 minutes... With a score of 83, The MI branch looks at a different score the score they pay attention to i got a 129 or something, i needed a 115 to qualify.

I smoked that damn test.

So easy.

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Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 11 March 2006 at 9:46pm
ugh... I just go back from MEPS, and some other training... I'm pretty tired from doing all this military crap this weekend.   

I came up posotive for Diabities so I need to give them another blood sample on the 21st, and MEPS was thee lamest 9 hours of my life. I made weight(barley) but I had a little help from some 'fleet' that "cleaned" me out.  I'm basically all signed on for 4 years as a MP, but... I need to varify I'm not diabetic.   I'll be stationed in Kansas City in August where.. the fun will begin, just can't wait to finish Basic so I can start my 'actual' training. Though... I have to learn to train a friggin dog though which is going to kinda suck.  

and today, for me to get as a E3 I had to do my little marching/map reading training which was easy, but standing at parade started to hurt my shoulders after 35min of just standing there.

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Posted By: Brian Fellows
Date Posted: 11 March 2006 at 11:49pm
Originally posted by chronic future chronic future wrote:

Originally posted by Benjichang Benjichang wrote:

Originally posted by dodan44 dodan44 wrote:

SEALs rule. the training is great if you can take it. me and my uncle were in in. well worth the time. obstacle courses suck. if you survive hell week you can survive it all. be prepared for sleep deprivation. during hell week i think i got around 5 hours of sleep in 7 days. the training is worth it though.
I didn't know 15 was the age to be able to go into the SEALs.

seriously, dodan stop hurting the forum.

Ya srsly, you just lamed this thread up.

Quit watching the Military Channel.


Posted By: warman
Date Posted: 12 March 2006 at 12:46am
Hopefully you don't have diabetes, but if you get to train and handle military dogs you should not be disapointed. That is probably the one of the coolest things you can do. I don't know if your planning on a law enforcement career outside of the militay, you may very well end up as a k-9 handler. You should see having a dog as a bonus man. i know a mp in the marines who got to go all over the world with the George Bush and the first lady because she trained/handled military dogs.

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Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 12 March 2006 at 2:00am
Originally posted by warman warman wrote:

Hopefully you don't have diabetes, but if you get to train and handle military dogs you should not be disapointed. That is probably the one of the coolest things you can do. I don't know if your planning on a law enforcement career outside of the militay, you may very well end up as a k-9 handler. You should see having a dog as a bonus man. i know a mp in the marines who got to go all over the world with the George Bush and the first lady because she trained/handled military dogs.


i dont have diabities, I drank some OJ before Meps that sky rocketed my Blood sugar levels, the odd thing was is that I was dehydrated(sp), but my blood sugar level was way high.

edit: yea I was looking to be a COP since my Senior year of school, and with me being an MP I'm sure any Acadamey would be more then happy to sign me on.

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Posted By: mjicmike
Date Posted: 12 March 2006 at 2:27am
How long was it after you drank your O.J. ?  for a normal person, the body produces its natural insulin and stabilizes the blood sugar levels to around 90-120 mg/dl after 2-3 hours.  You do show signs, the feeling of dehydration is one of the symptoms, tiredness too.  You may want to ask your parents/relatives to find out if anyone has diabetes in the family.  If you are constantly thirsty, can't hold urine and gotta go frequently.... better get that checked.  Believe me I know.    Dont' mean to scare you, but it happens.  Especially if it runs in your family, you would be at a higher risk.

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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 12 March 2006 at 11:02am
Seriously, MEPS is terrible, i slept an hour and a half, we had to stay overnight and wake up at 4 oclock, go from the hotel to the MEPS station on fort meade, the whole process on a saturday took 11.5 hours, thank god it wasnt a monday.. thats when it takes a reaally long time..

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Posted By: kuhndog599
Date Posted: 12 March 2006 at 11:23am
my bro hates it. he has to be with jerks that are higher rank than him. they found out he wasnt re enlisting so they make it hard on them like make them go back over seas for six months when there almost done with their service and putting them places they dont want to be.

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Posted By: whack-a-mole
Date Posted: 12 March 2006 at 11:26am
Well, congrats. I hope you get the mos that you want.

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Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 5:47pm
Yea, I went to get my EKG, and well...  I'm DQ'd, and... antoher bad thing is that I have a really crappy Valve, and I need open heart surgery within the next couple years. 

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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 5:54pm
PDQed or TDQed?

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Posted By: Bango
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 6:00pm
Damn, that sucks. 

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Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 6:04pm
Originally posted by Bango Bango wrote:

Damn, that sucks. 


Yea it does, but... you live with what you got... also my career as being a Cop is shot down as well.. but I guess I belong in the court room instead of outside it... I'm still going to go into law as a profession, but I guess I'll have to settle for Paralegal, or somthing.


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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 6:10pm
Can you try and enlist after the sugery?

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Posted By: HOInfantry
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 6:15pm

Why the Army?



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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 6:16pm
Because the army owns all.

Although the navy pays better.

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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 6:26pm
Originally posted by TRAVELER TRAVELER wrote:

One of my friends just graduated basic training and is getting ready to start the Cav scout training at Ft Knox. He had an ASVAB score of 34, and he enlisted on a waiver.


I know you can do worse but... Damn.. How did he get only a 34.. That test is common sense..

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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 6:31pm
Originally posted by Panda Man Panda Man wrote:

Yea, I went to get my EKG, and well... I'm DQ'd, and... antoher bad thing is that I have a really crappy Valve, and I need open heart surgery within the next couple years.


Is anyone really surpised here?

Arent you glad you ate all the fast food grease, sugar, and sat at your computer instead of playing outside?

You havent even lived 20 years yet and your hear is already shot.

Congrats!

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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 6:34pm
Man, no that sucks that he went through MEPS to get DQed after the fact. MEPS sucks.

All that and he got DQed because he was a couch potato growing up.

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Posted By: HOInfantry
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 6:37pm

Explain...how does the Army own all?



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Posted By: HOInfantry
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 6:38pm

Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

Originally posted by TRAVELER TRAVELER wrote:

One of my friends just graduated basic training and is getting ready to start the Cav scout training at Ft Knox. He had an ASVAB score of 34, and he enlisted on a waiver.


I know you can do worse but... Damn.. How did he get only a 34.. That test is common sense..

Because that's what you get from the Army...



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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 6:38pm
Explain MEPS? You went through MEPS. You didnt think it was long and boring? All the "Get ready and wait" attitude of the armed forces.

I went army, i finished that test in 45 minutes and scored an 82, 127 of a 115 to get intel.

I did very well thank you.

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Posted By: HOInfantry
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 6:40pm

Geez dude...you think MEPS was bad? Holy crap! Whatever dude, MEPS is a breeze. Wow...just...wow...you'll hate your time in.

Hmm...good job...

88 and 127GT, I chose infantry.



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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 6:42pm
I just didnt like MEPS because we went to this hotel, woke up at 4, went to the MEPS station, did our military documentation, then the physical, the entire thing took 11 and a half hours.

Then there was the contract and MOS business, they couldnt find my name on their list because i was already in an AIT school in fort huachuka, so that tacked on about 2 hours. I was catching sleep when i could on these uncomfortable breifing room chairs.

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Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 6:43pm
Originally posted by Hades Hades wrote:

Originally posted by Panda Man Panda Man wrote:

Yea, I went to get my EKG, and well... I'm DQ'd, and... antoher bad thing is that I have a really crappy Valve, and I need open heart surgery within the next couple years.


Is anyone really surpised here?

Arent you glad you ate all the fast food grease, sugar, and sat at your computer instead of playing outside?

You havent even lived 20 years yet and your hear is already shot.

Congrats!


I was born with it, my papy hada similar problem, but not as bad.  Also, I'm not diabetic, or any other problem, yea... I'm a little big, but all I need to do is loose like 5-10 vanity pounds and I'd be at normal weight.


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Posted By: HOInfantry
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 6:46pm

That's how life is. Standby to standby for a possible maybe. Waiting entirely too long for something. Jacked up paper work. That is the norm. If everything goes smooth, somebody done jacked something up on purpose. Trust me, it's never smooth. MY name was on the paper...I was shipping to bootcamp.

Edit- As much as I hate the Army...let me give you some advice on the way I've seen things work: if it can be broken and jacked up, it they can make it not work, then it won't. Common sense is not authorized while in uniform!



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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 6:48pm
What gave me a chuckle during the military documentation bit was that they misspelled my first name, not my last name. I thought that was funny. Gave me a tickle.

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Posted By: HOInfantry
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 6:52pm

Do you have any idea how long it took them to get my name right?

Langewisch...it was spelled-
Lehngwich
Lengwisch
Langwish
Longwisch (wasn't that bad when the first four letters were capitalized)

Finally, it is correct, though on my promotion is says Lengwisch. Heck, they'll get the important trash right...blood type, social security number, sex, and sometimes your pay, but personal trash...you're a number.

NOTE: I said SOMETIMES pay



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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 6:53pm
Man.. You have a doosy of a name..

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Posted By: Ken Majors
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 7:09pm
My name used to get interesting....

When I would answer the phone in the aid station..."Aid Station 2nd/325, this is an unsecure line...Sgt Majors speaking" CLICK.
Half the time people would hang up thinking they had accidentaly called the CSM's office.
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 7:12pm
Just like Catch22.

Major Major Major Major.

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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 8:18pm
It seems to me that most young guys in the army are the guys who screwed up in high school. So to all you kids out there, study so you do not have to die.

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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 8:25pm
A lot of people use the armed forces as a steping stone to aquire certain job skills.

Others try to do this and end up falling in love with the armed forces.

And still yet others just love the armed forces.

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Posted By: Bango
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 8:41pm
Originally posted by Cedric Cedric wrote:

It seems to me that most young guys in the army are the guys who screwed up in high school. So to all you kids out there, study so you do not have to die.


Someone has to do it.


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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 8:55pm
Originally posted by Bango Bango wrote:


Originally posted by Cedric Cedric wrote:

It seems to me that most young guys in the army are the guys who screwed up in high school. So to all you kids out there, study so you do not have to die.
Someone has to do it.

Well yeah. All of the idiots in high school. But if we weren't in a war in the first place, these kids could be making me french fries.

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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 10:02pm

Originally posted by Cedric Cedric wrote:

these kids could be making me french fries.

Not as easy as it sounds.



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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 10:32pm
Originally posted by Cedric Cedric wrote:

It seems to me that most young guys in the army are the guys who screwed up in high school. So to all you kids out there, study so you do not have to die.


Except for those of us using it to pay for university...


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Posted By: PAINTBALL1
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 10:40pm
Well ill be going to basic in August for the Army, my MOS is EINT (electronic intelligence), wiretaping phones,intercepting e-mails, and what not. But something to consider before signing up is... your future. I was thinking about EOD (explosive ordinance disposal) because i like blowing stuff up, and being in a dangerous position, but i thought about it and blowing stuff up set me up with no-where to go after i get out. So i went with a intelligence job, got my top secret clearance and after my 4 years im set. I know its not all going to be easy, but im excited for it. Both of my parents were in the army and and it did GREAT things for them, i hope i am as fortunate.
Also as far as ASVAB scores go, i know of no-one that scored higher than a 100 AFQT score (which is the highest you can get. Each branch interprets the line scores differently. And whoever said that a 73 is a low score, its really not. THe guy might have scored low somewhere and really high in others. My GT score is a little bit lower than what a few guys have posted (mine 115 GT) but i still had a choice of any job i wanted except for special forces (missed by 2 points, but i dont really care). My other scores however were really high. But anyways, just finishing up High School, and then goin to Hawaii for two weeks, getting married, then basic.... one heck of a summer.

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Posted By: TRAVELER
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 11:22pm
Originally posted by Panda Man Panda Man wrote:

Originally posted by Hades Hades wrote:

Originally posted by Panda Man Panda Man wrote:

Yea, I went to get my EKG, and well... I'm DQ'd, and... antoher bad thing is that I have a really crappy Valve, and I need open heart surgery within the next couple years.


Is anyone really surpised here?

Arent you glad you ate all the fast food grease, sugar, and sat at your computer instead of playing outside?

You havent even lived 20 years yet and your hear is already shot.

Congrats!


I was born with it, my papy hada similar problem, but not as bad.  Also, I'm not diabetic, or any other problem, yea... I'm a little big, but all I need to do is loose like 5-10 vanity pounds and I'd be at normal weight.


Have you gotten a retest? A second opinion? An EKG wasn't required when I went in. Fortunately, even if it is a real positive test, heart valve replacements are pretty routine nowadays. Unfortunately, having heart surgery will disqualify you from military service.

MP's train at Ft McClellan, Alabama. I don't know where it is you live now, but few places are more miserable in the summer than the deep south. Anniston is the local "big" city, and the nightlife is somewhat limited for anyone who doesn't drive a 4x4 pickup with a big rebel flag flying from a pole on the bed. Southern girls are alot of fun though .

Law school (I'm a law school drop out), and the law in general isn't a good choice if you are looking for a low stress career. If I hadn't gotten a job in law enforcement myself, I'd have probably gotten a degree in education and become a teacher.






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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 11:46pm
Originally posted by Tae Kwon Do Tae Kwon Do wrote:

Originally posted by Cedric Cedric wrote:

these kids could be making me french fries.


Not as easy as it sounds.


I'd rather a kid with a .5 gpa handling some fries rather than a firearm.

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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 22 March 2006 at 12:46am
Originally posted by PAINTBALL1 PAINTBALL1 wrote:


Also as far as ASVAB scores go, i know of no-one that scored higher than a 100 AFQT score (which is the highest you can get. Each branch interprets the line scores differently. And whoever said that a 73 is a low score, its really not. THe guy might have scored low somewhere and really high in others. My GT score is a little bit lower than what a few guys have posted (mine 115 GT) but i still had a choice of any job i wanted except for special forces (missed by 2 points, but i dont really care). My other scores however were really high. But anyways, just finishing up High School, and then goin to Hawaii for two weeks, getting married, then basic.... one heck of a summer.


Wow, you just made it in then, my GT score was 127.

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Posted By: mjicmike
Date Posted: 22 March 2006 at 1:26am

Originally posted by Cedric Cedric wrote:

Originally posted by Bango Bango wrote:


Originally posted by Cedric Cedric wrote:

It seems to me that most young guys in the army are the guys who screwed up in high school. So to all you kids out there, study so you do not have to die.
Someone has to do it.

Well yeah. All of the idiots in high school. But if we weren't in a war in the first place, these kids could be making me french fries.

wouldn't that be weird.... if we didn't have anyone willing to fight for our freedom... I wonder what language would we be talking right now ? 



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Posted By: Brian Fellows
Date Posted: 22 March 2006 at 1:47am
A frend of mine is in the Army.  He's over in South Korea right now.  


Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 22 March 2006 at 7:30am
Originally posted by mjicmike mjicmike wrote:

Originally posted by Cedric Cedric wrote:

Originally posted by Bango Bango wrote:


Originally posted by Cedric Cedric wrote:

It seems to me that most young guys in the army are the guys who screwed up in high school. So to all you kids out there, study so you do not have to die.
Someone has to do it.

Well yeah. All of the idiots in high school. But if we weren't in a war in the first place, these kids could be making me french fries.

wouldn't that be weird.... if we didn't have anyone willing to fight for our freedom... I wonder what language would we be talking right now ? 

English.



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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 22 March 2006 at 3:58pm
Originally posted by Tae Kwon Do Tae Kwon Do wrote:

Originally posted by mjicmike mjicmike wrote:


Originally posted by Cedric Cedric wrote:

Originally posted by Bango Bango wrote:

Originally posted by Cedric Cedric wrote:

It seems to me that most young guys in the army are the guys who screwed up in high school. So to all you kids out there, study so you do not have to die.
Someone has to do it.
Well yeah. All of the idiots in high school. But if we weren't in a war in the first place, these kids could be making me french fries.


wouldn't that be weird.... if we didn't have anyone willing to fight for our freedom... I wonder what language would we be talking right now ? 



English.


Yeah..

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Posted By: Jack Carver
Date Posted: 22 March 2006 at 4:04pm
Originally posted by Cedric Cedric wrote:

Originally posted by Tae Kwon Do Tae Kwon Do wrote:

Originally posted by mjicmike mjicmike wrote:

Originally posted by Cedric Cedric wrote:

Originally posted by Bango Bango wrote:

Originally posted by Cedric Cedric wrote:

It seems to me that most young guys in the army are the guys who screwed up in high school. So to all you kids out there, study so you do not have to die.
Someone has to do it.
Well yeah. All of the idiots in high school. But if we weren't in a war in the first place, these kids could be making me french fries.
wouldn't that be weird.... if we didn't have anyone willing to fight for our freedom... I wonder what language would we be talking right now ? 
English.

Yeah..

No..


Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 22 March 2006 at 5:30pm
Then tell me, what would we be speaking?

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Posted By: Savage93fvss
Date Posted: 22 March 2006 at 5:34pm
The language of any country that was smart enough to move in our country, seein as how if there wasnt anybody willing to fight, we'd be easy pickin.


Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 22 March 2006 at 5:40pm
<sigh> ...

Nice thread jacking you guys.

But yea, I tolled a lady friend of mine that I had a broken heart and it was pretty funny.

/me enters all moapy.

Girl: whats Wrong?
Panda: I have a broken Heart...
Girl: awww... thats to bad, you taken it pretty rough?
Panda: Yea, I may die in less then 2yrs...
Girl: ... ? how so?
Panda: I have to get open Heart surgery...
Girl: OH!!! I thought your Girlfriend dumped you, but... thats even worse...

then the conversation just kinda went on about the Surgery, and my new goals etc...


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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 22 March 2006 at 5:41pm
Why do you need open heart surgery..?

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Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 22 March 2006 at 5:47pm
To replace a Valve in my Heart, it lets in too much blood into my heart, and its kinda... lazy... I guess it'll soon just stop closing, and let to much blood in, then I'll just kind of go into Cardiac arrest and Die. 

There ganna replace it with a Mechanical part, in which I will have my chest Cracked open(Yea... pace maker scar).

Thank god for Insurance... I don't think I wanna payfor a $68,000 surgery.


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Posted By: WUNgUN
Date Posted: 22 March 2006 at 6:37pm
Originally posted by Cedric Cedric wrote:

It seems to me that most young guys in the army are the guys who screwed up in high school. So to all you kids out there, study so you do not have to die.

Get some stones. Being a teacher, working around "intellectuals", and going to school now for almost eight years straight, I have heard every excuse why my male colleagues did not have time or the "stones" to serve our nation in any capacity. Sounds like another excuse to me. Funny thing is that the teachers who teach the highest levels (sections) of science and math in my high school are both combat veterans.

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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 22 March 2006 at 9:10pm
It bothers me when people say. "I wouldnt join i dont want to die"

Come on, what a cop out, there are worse things that could happen to you. If you die, does it really affect you at all? Nope. You die thats it.

Its when others close to you die, thats when you should get upset.

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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 22 March 2006 at 9:14pm
Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

It bothers me when people say. "I wouldnt join i dont want to die"

It's true though. Not many people want to die voluntarily.

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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 22 March 2006 at 9:16pm
No ones really dying voluntarily, you serve your country, if you die, well, its not the end of the world.

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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 22 March 2006 at 9:18pm
Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

No ones really dying voluntarily, you serve your country, if you die, well, its not the end of the world.

I have to die to serve my country? And if I do die, it is the end of the world, at least for me. Since I'm dead and all.

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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 22 March 2006 at 9:19pm
No you dont have to die to serve your country. And its not the end of the world. The world does not revolve around you.

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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 22 March 2006 at 9:20pm
Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

The world does not revolve around you.

Yes it does. I am the sun.

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Date Posted: 22 March 2006 at 9:21pm


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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 22 March 2006 at 9:23pm
Seriously though. You do not know that I'm not the sun. For all you know, I very well could be.

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Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 22 March 2006 at 9:25pm
dbib... i think it's the fact that i'd rather be living... than shot, burned, and dragged through the streets of some sand box...

i mean... i like living...




Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 22 March 2006 at 9:29pm
How do you know your dead? You wouldnt have a clue. Living through that would be a lot worse.

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Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 22 March 2006 at 9:33pm
Just to throw this out there, but how does having your head sawed off with a big knife figure into this? How about your considerations if your family never gets to bury your body, or gets to watch your decapitation on international TV?



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