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Topic: Nissan
Posted By: hoginds24
Subject: Nissan
Date Posted: 04 March 2006 at 5:19pm
So I aquired my sisters '97 Nissan Maxima the other day. I need to replace the speakers because she ripped them to shreds.
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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 04 March 2006 at 5:19pm
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Congrats. ------------- 
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Posted By: mjicmike
Date Posted: 04 March 2006 at 5:30pm
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nice car, take care of it and keep up with the maintenance. You guys up there get loads of road salt especially the during the snow season. That's bad for exposed metal and also accelerates corrosion. ------------- A5 Rfs Dwg triggr Ricochet R5 8"Lapco Bigsht/14"CP Classic Palmers Stab. Lapco uni-mount DOP bullet drop fwd PMI 88/4500 Woods Flatline/14"Lapco Bigsht CMI Thunder pig reg. Remote adj. stk |
Posted By: Boss_DJ
Date Posted: 04 March 2006 at 5:48pm
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Posted By: pbdude985
Date Posted: 04 March 2006 at 6:10pm
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hey i am from NY too , nice car good luck with it ------------- 
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Posted By: blackdog144
Date Posted: 04 March 2006 at 6:14pm
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nice car...
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Posted By: pntbl freak
Date Posted: 04 March 2006 at 6:27pm
| Looks good. Just take care of it so it doesnt go down the crapper. |
Posted By: BearClaw
Date Posted: 04 March 2006 at 6:33pm
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Congrats on the new to you ride. Take care of it an stay ontop of the maintanece and it shal do you good. Stay out of trouble as well and drive safe. Again congrats. ------------- AGD 68 Automag Azodin KPII Sheridan PGP2K Tippmann Crossover XVR Tippmann ProCarbine Tippmann SL68-II Tippmann TiPX |
Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 04 March 2006 at 6:54pm
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I myself recenlty aquired a Schwinn bicycle from the local wallmart. ------------- 
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Posted By: pntbl freak
Date Posted: 04 March 2006 at 6:54pm
Pics |
Da Hui wrote:Posted By: pb125
Date Posted: 04 March 2006 at 8:28pm
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Meh, it's alright. ------------- 
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 04 March 2006 at 8:57pm
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Damn, finally a forumer I can respect.
You bought an awesome car. What are the stats on it? Milage? Stick/auto? How much did you pay? From the pics it looks REAL clean, I like it a lot. If you want any tips, hit me up, I just bought a new(to me) car the other day and have been learning a lot. And yes, I bought a Nissan too, they are the bomb.  ------------- "People who see the future earlier than others are always feared and misunderstood." - Jose Canseco |
Posted By: dodan44
Date Posted: 04 March 2006 at 8:59pm
i like it. give us some stats.  ------------- i pawn noobs |
Posted By: PlentifulBalls
Date Posted: 04 March 2006 at 10:13pm
Sorry it isn't as good as your car. Oh....wait.... ------------- 
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Posted By: piranhakiller
Date Posted: 04 March 2006 at 11:15pm
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Nice car, how many miles? ------------- ~Marker setup~ 2K1 Autococker Rt Feed 12in Freak ANS 3-Way Black Houge Grip Shocktech Drop Forward TippmannA5 16in J&Jceramic r/t 2X trigger Blue Dye c4 |
Posted By: Apu
Date Posted: 04 March 2006 at 11:57pm
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That's weird, my sisters car is a 97 Altima, same color. That is if it's black, I can't really tell what color it is, i'm just assuming it is. ------------- I need a new Sig... |
Posted By: cdacda13
Date Posted: 05 March 2006 at 12:13am
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Posted By: hoginds24
Date Posted: 05 March 2006 at 1:34am
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Uh, I didn't really buy it, just passed down from my sister..... but I'd take it over other availible cars. It is a dark dark forest green but appears black. I believe it has about 130,000 miles and is an automatic.
The only cleanliness problem is my sister spilled coffie and never cleaned it so a floor mat is stained and there are marks running down the center console... I should probably clean that tomorrow. Thanks for the great comments! ------------- [IMG]http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/6924/willproducsv6.jpg"> |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 05 March 2006 at 2:14am
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why is everyone in love with altimas? i swear your the third forumer to get one in a month! im not saying its a bad car, its just there are others i would rather have for the same price(ish). thats just me though. to each his own, like i always say! anyway, congrats on your new car. it sounds like your sister didnt deserve it though... ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell" 
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Posted By: BearClaw
Date Posted: 05 March 2006 at 8:26am
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I think of the altima mutch like a Ford Tuaruse or chevy Grand-Am. Just a simple car to get from point A-B somewhat economically in relitive comfort. Its not overly luxuriouse or sporty just enough to get the job done without too mutch sacrafice in either department while keeping the cost down to that of the average mans affordability level. And pluse he got it free who gona complain about a free car LOL. I think it more gratifying to have bought my own vehical but if offerdd a free car i doubt anyone would turn it down. Then again i also dont like paying someone to work on my cars either im a mehcanic myself for a living i may as well work on my own. ------------- AGD 68 Automag Azodin KPII Sheridan PGP2K Tippmann Crossover XVR Tippmann ProCarbine Tippmann SL68-II Tippmann TiPX |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 05 March 2006 at 9:57am
 ------------- "People who see the future earlier than others are always feared and misunderstood." - Jose Canseco |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 05 March 2006 at 10:00am
That's even sicker that it is forest green! That is the color of my new car too!
Also, the guy got a Maxima, not an Altima.
Last time I checked, the Nissan Maxima had won the JD Power and Associates "Best V6 engine in class" for like a decade running, haven't heard anything like that about the taurus. ------------- "People who see the future earlier than others are always feared and misunderstood." - Jose Canseco |
Posted By: BearClaw
Date Posted: 05 March 2006 at 10:52am
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Holly crap i was not bashin the maxima or altima yeash i know you got a
thing for NISSAN their ZESTY but i was just stating class the car was
in is to point out the fact to DeTrevni that not every one needs a
modified car. I was acutally defending the car and congradulating
the guy. And for your own info Fords 3.0L vulcan V6 (used in the FordTuaruse) is nicknamed the coacroach engine by most mehcanics (i have the same engien in my 1996 Ford Ranger). It aint fancy aint overly powerfull but they have a LONG life span and never seem to back dow from the task at hand. It aslo been in produion nearly unchaged for 14 years. BUT to all these awards Personally i dot give a flying poop what some pecil pusher at some magazine says im a bloddy MEHCANIC i see these things in the real world not a few months as a test drive. Shure the altima & maxima have good engeins as does the grand-ams 3.4 & 3.8 and Fords 3.0 Vulcan and 3.0 Duratech (completely differant engeins for your info). My 3.0l Vulcan is still going strong and runs like day one at 236000kms (150,000miles). It awlays get the job done wehter that be hualing around furniture or my motorcycle or plying in the mud. its easy to maintain and it runs EXTREAMLY clean (E-Test report was fenominal). Pluse all that and it gets 23mpg in a 4x4 pickup truck. sounds like a pretty good v6 to me dont it?? ------------- AGD 68 Automag Azodin KPII Sheridan PGP2K Tippmann Crossover XVR Tippmann ProCarbine Tippmann SL68-II Tippmann TiPX |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 05 March 2006 at 11:00am
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^Why are you so defensive? You are the mechanic, I'm just explaining that I've owned both cars, and they are pretty different when you get in them and actually drive them for extended periods.
Not to nitpick, but are you really that impressed with a car going strong at only 150,000 miles? I just bought a 1992 240sx with over 200,000 miles, and I am hitting 80 easily in 4th without even getting close to redlining. I do have a thing for Nissans, that is no secret. I'm not dissing the taurus! It was a good car to me. I bought it for like $1500 and it ran fine without many issues. But the fact is, I then tried out a Nissan Altima, 2.4 liter 4cyl, and it had MORE POWER, and better gas mileage, and from my experience they ride just as hard and long as the Ford. I really think you need to take a step back and unwad your panties, I am not arguing with you! Simply stating my experience, just like you are! If anything, I have actually owned the cars I am talking about, so please try and get off your high-and-mighty trip just because you are a mechanic. I respect your opinion, but don't respect how you seem to think your opinion and experience is automatically more educated or important than anyone else's. Have you ever owned a 1990 Ford Taurus or a 1995 Nissan Altima? I have, and that's all I was trying to compare, get over yourself. ------------- "People who see the future earlier than others are always feared and misunderstood." - Jose Canseco |
Posted By: Hairball!!!
Date Posted: 05 March 2006 at 3:58pm
| Nissan's 3.5L V6 has some power. |
Posted By: BearClaw
Date Posted: 05 March 2006 at 5:36pm
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Im not defending a vehical i dont have im stating the car is in the same class???? i dont care witch one ya feel is better. You stated Nissans V6 has won best v6 in class for so many years and then when on to say how you have not seen that from ford. I was just pointing out the editors credibility or their lack of and then from experiance point out the atributes of one o Fords best little engines. Only reason im pointing out im a mehcanic is so you can see im not some 14 year old brand loyal idot on a paint ball forum. Its to point out i have some cradentials to make my statments. Not to make your statments any less valid. I can see things from a differant perspective. Magazine editors drive a car for a few months and base their opinion on ride performance and economy. I base my opinion on quailty, reliabilty, ease of maintanec,cost of maintenec, overal $$/mile as well as the performance, ride and economy. I have owned imports and domestics alike and all my vehicals have/had their pluse and minuses. Nissan makes some nice cars no doubt and id love to own one of the old Datsun 240 but im not loyal to any brand. I love my VW my Yamaha and my Ford Alike one from each major manufacturing nation. ------------- AGD 68 Automag Azodin KPII Sheridan PGP2K Tippmann Crossover XVR Tippmann ProCarbine Tippmann SL68-II Tippmann TiPX |
Posted By: pntbl freak
Date Posted: 05 March 2006 at 5:38pm
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Chevy Grand Am? Do you mean Pontiac? |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 10 March 2006 at 5:38pm
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My point is, I DID NOT have any brand loyalty UNTIL I DRIVE THE CARS!
If anything, I thought I would rather be in something "Made Here". Then I lived and learned.
I bought both cars, drove them extensively, and made the conclusion that the Ford taurus wasn't near the car the Altima was. Not to be blunt, but you are kind of a huge hypocrite! You knock these professionals that are giving the car rave reviews, saying they don't have enough time behind the wheel. Then you proceed to speak like you know any better, meanwhile YOU ARE IN THE EXACT SAME POSITION BEING A MECHANIC! You don't have the time driving the cars in question, I do. I have exactly what you are harping on about..... time behind the wheel! 
I guess I just don't get your position very well. ------------- "People who see the future earlier than others are always feared and misunderstood." - Jose Canseco |
Posted By: BearClaw
Date Posted: 11 March 2006 at 12:24am
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You dont understand. I see the mehcanical side of things then i look at how she drives. I dont just drive the cars and state my opinion i fix em i see their problem areas and i see how mutch they cost to stay running I see silet recalls and TSBs. Their is more too a car then how she Drives. I knock Magazine editors and Magazine Awards as for the most part they dont have a vehical long enough one to run into problems and two they never work on the cars. They simply drive em and play with the gadgets. I dont see a car for the most part unles somethings broken, BUt i do also just reg maintanece. I get a pretty good grasp on problem areas and general weak spots of each vehical this way as well as getting to drive em and play with the gadgets as well. As for being brand loyal why bring that up im oviously have no loyalty. My mehcanics work history: -Canadaian Tire (LARGE General reapair Facility Chain) -SN Diesel (everything from cars to Heavy equipment) -Home Run Shop (got laid off due to lack of work soo i started fixing cars outa my garage just to pay the bills) -International Truck Dealership (First intro to a DEALER and STRAINGT HEAVY TRUCK WORK hated it) -Stock Transportation And worked for fellow co workers side buissness Auto repairs (Charelton Car Care) -Ryder Truck Rental and Leasing (primarily Heavy truck but also have cars). My CURRENT Automotive ownership -Ford Ranger -VW Golf -Yamaha V-star (Motorcycle) I also regularly drive and maintain -Suzuki Grand Vitara (great little SUV) -VW Golf TDI -Pontiac Montana -Suzuki Savage (Motorcycle) -Honda Goldwing (Motorcycle) -Ford Explorer (Partly own this one) My Past vehicals Dodge Shadow ES Turbo (Mitsubushie trans) 1977 Dodge Tradsman 22 Van Ford Ranger Ford F250 Diesel ------------- AGD 68 Automag Azodin KPII Sheridan PGP2K Tippmann Crossover XVR Tippmann ProCarbine Tippmann SL68-II Tippmann TiPX |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 15 March 2006 at 10:22am
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^Dude, you don't get it. You are saying that me owning the 2 cars in question and driving each for over 100,000 miles, is not as qualified as a position as yours, when you have NEVER owned the car or experienced what it is like to maintain them first hand.
I will make my point short. You knock the car evaluators opinions, saying they don't have enough experience with the cars in question.....driving them daily, and getting to know what it takes to keep them running. Yet, you are a mechanic, a person who by nature is only experiencing these cars in passing, not on a daily driver basis. YOU HAVE LIMITED DAILY DRIVING EXPERIENCE WITH THE CARS IN QUESTION! Yet you are telling a person who has owned and driven the cars extensively, that you know more about the daily driving and maintenence than he does. All the while I have owned the cars, you haven't. If you want to compare a couple cars you have owned, I have no problem. But that is not what you are doing. You speak about first hand experience driving and maintaining the cars, yet you have none yourself, because you have never owned the cars and driven them on those kinds of terms. We can go around all day, I will solidify my point and be done with this. Bearclaw, I feel that you are a hypocrite. You knock a group of people based on them not having enough exerience with the vehicle. Yet you are in the exact same boat. I don't see how you can comment on the longterm performance and maintenance of these cars, when you have never personally owned one to know first hand how the cars were driven and every little issue that has popped up. I have bought 2 cars since I owned the taurus, and each time I have spoken with my wallet......I bought a Nissan. ------------- "People who see the future earlier than others are always feared and misunderstood." - Jose Canseco |
Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 15 March 2006 at 10:23am
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Damn... I thought we got rid of you. ------------- 
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 15 March 2006 at 10:27am
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I don't remember ever bringing up your "brand loyalty," just that I feel very strongly that you are a hypocrite.
I don't feel you are blindly loyal to one company, I think you are blind to the fact that you don't have as much experience with the cars in question than you let on. I'm not talking about your pas experience or resume, it really is not in question and meaningless here. The question in point was the Ford Taurus and the Nissan Altima, and all I offered was that I have owned both, and while they may appear the same on paper once you actually drive and maintain them both for awhile, you will clearly see the differences, and IMHO will appreciate the Nissan as the all-around superior vehicle at what it does. yes they are both designed for the same purpose, doesn't mean there is much similarity beyond that. and that's not even a knock on the Ford, just how much better the Nissan is in my experience. ------------- "People who see the future earlier than others are always feared and misunderstood." - Jose Canseco |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 15 March 2006 at 10:29am
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Posted By: BearClaw
Date Posted: 15 March 2006 at 12:00pm
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Ok here we go again. Have you even read my posts? I Quote " Only reason im pointing out im a mehcanic is so you can see im not some 14 year old brand loyal idot on a paint ball forum. Its to point out i have some cradentials to make my statments. Not to make your statments any less valid." Were exactly did i state that your opinion is invalid????? Hell were did i say the Taurus was a better Car then the Nissan??? I simply said and i Quote "I think of the altima mutch like a Ford Tuaruse or chevy Grand-Am. Just a simple car to get from point A-B somewhat economically in relitive comfort" I never said it was better or worse i just said it was in the same class and is geard to the same people. About the only thing you do got right is that i have stated that the magazine enditors opinion is crap. Have you read some of the crap these guys right? They have no CLUE what their talking about half the time. For http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?article_id=9470§ion_id=15&page_number=7 - instance "Car and Drive" IN that reveiw/comparisom they sate that the Honda ridgeline is full time 4wheel drive. When in actuallity the Ridge line is primarily front wheel drive secondary ALL wheel drive (their is a differance). I have seen more little scew up like this than i care to post. Why not rite and ask these guy what their creidentials are for their reveiws. Shure they can drive a car but do they not also then have their own preferances to make the reveiws biased then. Whens the last time you seen these guys do soo mutch as comment on the easy of maintence. And you may say that dont matter to the average owner who takes it to a mehcanic but if one cars harder to maintain than another then repairs for that car are gona cost more. I do see these cars in a differant light than yourself not better or worse but rather just from the other side of the fence. ------------- AGD 68 Automag Azodin KPII Sheridan PGP2K Tippmann Crossover XVR Tippmann ProCarbine Tippmann SL68-II Tippmann TiPX |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 15 March 2006 at 12:13pm
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No, I have read all your posts. I see your point. You never did claim the Ford was Better. You lumped them in the same category, which I elaborated on, and for some reason you got defensive. Trust me, I have been keeping up!
You never came out and said the Ford was better, but you did try and give me a rundown on how the Ford is more reliable, and easier to maintain. Basically, you seemed to talk things up for the Ford, that IME actually are the better points of the Nissan. Like I said, I found the Nissan to be more powerful, with a smaller engine. The automatic transmission was the biggest difference, and where the Nissan really shines, IME. The Ford's is gorrible, and the Nissan's is wonderful. When driving an automatic, it's amazing how much of a difference a transmission can make. Like I also said before, I found that the Ford did NOTHING better, other than being a bit bigger. The Nissan required less maintenance, and when it did the parts were cheaper and more available. It is more powerful and better on gas. I'm a healthy 6'2" and it has plenty of room for me. Like I said, just because 2 cars are desgined for the same purpose, doesn't mean they are in fact all that similar. The best way I can put it is taking everything into account: comfort, performance, reliability, maintenance, "fun-to-drive" factor, after owning both cars and driving both extensively, I feel like a Nissan Altima is superior in the areas that matter most. I agree they are desgined for the same purpose, but my point is just to show that the Nissan does it better, IME. ------------- "People who see the future earlier than others are always feared and misunderstood." - Jose Canseco |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 15 March 2006 at 12:22pm
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For the record though, you HAVE tried to bring the longevity, maintenance costs, and reliability into question, making it seem like the Ford is superior in those departments. That is what irks me!
I have owned both cars, and everything you seem to give the Ford credit for, the Nissan did better in my experience. I guess that's my hang-up, that you rip these editors for not having enough experience, you say they just don't have enough experience. Yet I am the one who had LIVED WITH THESE CARS, daily driven them for years combined, and for some reason your standards and values change, and your passing judgement is more of value than mine.....all the while I am the exact person whose opinion I thought you respected! The one with the experience driving, maintaining the cars! I don't know, I really can't find any other word to use other than "hypocrite". ------------- "People who see the future earlier than others are always feared and misunderstood." - Jose Canseco |
Posted By: BearClaw
Date Posted: 15 March 2006 at 12:57pm
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No prob. The only reason i was pointing out the reliability of the 3.0L v6 is cause as slow and old school tech its still in my opinion one of the best engeins for sale from any brand Simply because its SIMPLE. Its VERY cheap to keep running and really their is not a whole lot that goes wrong with em. Fords 4.0L V6 is a worthless turd and altough it awsome power wise its a problematic POS. Nissan seems to be dooing really well in every department but you are paying huge premiums these days for it. The average grocery getter is disapearing. And the only other thing you really should consider is the 2006 Taurus SE is at the bottom of class at $26,399CDN while the 2006 MAXIMA is near the top at $35,298CDN BASE. BUT you get more from the Maxima for that money. Im just a poor guy now id end up getting Taurus cause i cant afford the nice stuff LOL. I actually like the Nissan Maxiam although i think nissan needs to look back too its roots when they made more affordable FUN cars that were alot of fun. I LOVED the older Datsun 240Z's one of my favorite small cars but seems nissans forgetting that past. The 350Z is a RIP OFF. A $46,000BASE Price tag????? ------------- AGD 68 Automag Azodin KPII Sheridan PGP2K Tippmann Crossover XVR Tippmann ProCarbine Tippmann SL68-II Tippmann TiPX |
Posted By: Project Irene
Date Posted: 15 March 2006 at 1:05pm
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Dude, Zesty... stress/fret much? ...anywho Congrats on the car, friend of mine's lookin at a nice 350z. Now there's a nissan I'd crap my pants for. Or of course the skyline, which would make me go unconcious. |
Posted By: BearClaw
Date Posted: 15 March 2006 at 1:15pm
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Oh for gods sake what a prick. Why go for a second round LOL. Were did i question Nissans reliability??? Please Quote it if you find it Were did i state the Ford as superior in ANY way??? PLEASE Quote It Were did i question YOUR experiance?? Please Quote it All i said is that editors have no credibility in my books. For multiple of reasons witch i feel i have already CLEARLY pointed out in previouse posts. I see these things daily Dirve em daily and i work on em daily. These editors drive em for a few weeks and thats IT. Shure the owner of the cars gona know how it rides and drive better than myself and even will know how his has been Cost wise better than myself. BUT i on the other hand see MANY diferant vehcals of the same model and get too see common problem areas and SEE the AVERAGE cost of these vehicals. And i QUOTE YOU posted this "Last time I checked, the Nissan Maxima had won the JD Power and Associates "Best V6 engine in class" for like a decade running, haven't heard anything like that about the taurus" That sounds like bashing something to me. And infact i DO have experiance with that engein your bashing its in my PICKUP TRUCK. Its a damn good engein and one that although is SLOW And OLD WORKS WELL AND HAS SO FOR 14+ years nearly unchanged. ------------- AGD 68 Automag Azodin KPII Sheridan PGP2K Tippmann Crossover XVR Tippmann ProCarbine Tippmann SL68-II Tippmann TiPX |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 13 April 2006 at 9:44pm
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haha, I'm a prick and you're the one ripping on me while I'm away! Shame on you.....I hope you don't blame me for not reading your hateful posts.
It's fine, you have no credibility in my books! LMAO I don't know where you got the 350z base price being $45,000! I haven't really looked into it, but a couple years ago you could get a brand new base model for well under $30,000. I would disagree about Nissan not making cars that are fun to drive, I would actually say that is about as far from the truth as possible. That is actually the heart of my disagreement with you! The nissan's tend to be very fun to drive and "enthusiast-oriented". Especially the more recent stuff. I can only speak for myself, and I was and still am extremely happy with my altima, and my new-to-me 240sx is quickly becommming a local legend! 211,xxx miles and still idling at a perfect 700rpm. I never said the Ford taurus wasn't reliable, I said it is less fuel efficient and less powerful than the nissan's 2.4l 4-cyl. And that it hadn't won a gang of awards like the Maxima. I hate to break it to you, but the Nissan is gonna go just as long and hard given the same maintenance, all the while being more "fun-to-drive". That's all I'm saying. Just to clarify, we were discussing an altima vs. taurus. I don't really care if you have the taurus engine in another vehicle! ------------- "People who see the future earlier than others are always feared and misunderstood." - Jose Canseco |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 13 April 2006 at 9:54pm
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Here is a link to Nissan's website and 350z pricing.
http://www.nissanusa.com/z/ - The truth, you're wrong, deal with it Have a nice life. ------------- "People who see the future earlier than others are always feared and misunderstood." - Jose Canseco |
Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 13 April 2006 at 10:30pm
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Wow, Zesty is back. And starting arguments in otherwise calm threads. Go figure. ------------- 
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 13 April 2006 at 10:48pm
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And you know you love it!
Well, I do at least and that's all that matters ------------- "People who see the future earlier than others are always feared and misunderstood." - Jose Canseco |
Posted By: BearClaw
Date Posted: 13 April 2006 at 11:29pm
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Take a look Zesty my last post was posted the same day as your previouse post. And take a look Zesty not every one lives in the USA im CANADIAN as seen in my bio. http://www.nissan.ca/en/vehicles/350Z/index.html - HERE Comparibly a 2006 Ford Mustang GT coupe costs $35,000CDN Base and its a DAMN NICE CAR. http://www.ford.ca/main/default.asp?language=en§ion=1&source=&sVehCategory=FordCars&model=Mustang - HERE And as for you fun to drive statment again thats just opinion. If i had $46,000 and i had to spend it on a CAR it opt for the mustang and spen the extra $10,000 on goodies for it. What i meant when refering to the old Datsuns were they were relitvly cheap cars in thier day and offered a fun driving experiance. They handeled great for the time even if the lacked the muscel of the big threes cars. Pluse the most fun car i have ever driven is my 86 VW Golf in my opinion. And guess what its only got 52hp. BUT your connected in that car their is NO seperation from you and the road. No powersteering, Cable Clutch, VERY Picky 5 speed gear box, And VERY limited power to make up for poor driving. Did a road raslly with this car last year and held my own considering. Even cought some air with it (witch probly explains the SHOT front wheel bearings  ). Not every things about power. Then again i LOVE taking my 96 Ranger off road and light mudding. Kinda fun going somewere only a select few can get. But My FAVORITE vehical is pretty mutch ANY motorcycle. NO car cancome close to the thrill of a nice twisty road on a motorcycle. ------------- AGD 68 Automag Azodin KPII Sheridan PGP2K Tippmann Crossover XVR Tippmann ProCarbine Tippmann SL68-II Tippmann TiPX |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 12:03am
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^I do apologize for not noticing you were from canada, my mistake. I thought the Canadian dollar was stronger than that though? Or is the car just more to import to Canada? The base model starts at like $27K here.
Honestly bearclaw, all I can say is I actually do kinda like you, but you really are kind of a fool. I know "fun to drive" would be an opinion, obviously. Just like it is your opinion that their current cars are lacking in that department. In my experience I disagree with you, and all I'm trying to do is give the opinion of someone who actually owns the cars. ------------- "People who see the future earlier than others are always feared and misunderstood." - Jose Canseco |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 12:09am
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Please let me say my quick piece and be gone.
The author of the thread got a free Nissan Maxima. You mention that the Altima is like the Ford Taurus, even though the thread is about a Maxima. Even though you didn't even comment on the cars at hand, I still felt it was OK to reply to your post, seeing as how you are the one who decided to post it. I offered my opinions as a person having owned and extensively driven both a 1990 taurus and 95 altima. I made a comment about the Maxima's VQ-series V6 winning numerous awards, and you give your opinion that you don't respect the people who give those awards, citing a lack of familiarity with the cars....I totally respect and agree with this opinion! HOWEVER, you say all this as a mechanic who has little to no experience with either car, and yet you seem to feel like your opinion is worhtwhile, meanwhile you seem to not really give a crap about my opinion, all the while I am the person with the experience that you supposedly respect. That is why I feel you are a hypocrite, nothing personal. I just feel you are very inconsitent and seem to be very picky about whose experience matters. ------------- "People who see the future earlier than others are always feared and misunderstood." - Jose Canseco |
Posted By: pb125
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 12:13am
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BEARCLAW, I would have NEVER guessed that YOU live in CANADA.
Go FIGURE. -------------
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 12:17am
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^Do you ever offer anything productive, funny, or original to a thread? Just asking. ------------- "People who see the future earlier than others are always feared and misunderstood." - Jose Canseco |
Posted By: PBalla2242
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 12:30am
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'stangs still feel cheaply done. i'd take a Z (or g coupe) over it anyday. ------------- 
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Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 11:07am
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Call me old fashioned but you should give your sister money for it.
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 11:33am
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^hehe, that WOULD be the "classy" thing to do.
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Posted By: the flanker
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 11:37am
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the pics arent loading for me but from what ive heard it is a pretty nice car so congrats ------------- 
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 11:43am
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Please just let me say, I also know it's not all about power! You are preaching to the wrong guy!
I drive a 1992 Nissan 240sx. It's a 2.4 liter, DOHC, 16 valve inline 4-banger......not much different than a lot of imported engines. Supposedly pushes somewhere around 155HP/TQ. Not overly powerful by any means! The block and all stock internals are known to safely and effectively handle 300RWHP, so there is room for growth! Plus the car actually has the aftermarket support to get you there affordably. The big thing is, the engine is in a car that has a near perfect 50/50 weight distribution, and is rear-wheel drive. The fact that my particular car is equipped with a viscous limited slip differential, does make it even a bit more fun to drive and "capable". The fact I got the car for less than $2,000 isn't too bad either!
I will agree it's not all about power, but then again, when it comes to cars, it isn't about ANY one thing! It's about a complete package, and how that package fits your driving style. I will say that all other things being equal, the car with the higher power/weight ratio will tend to be more "fun-to-drive." ------------- "People who see the future earlier than others are always feared and misunderstood." - Jose Canseco |
Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 11:48am
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I just dont care about numbers really. I dont race or anything. I like my vehicle to take me from point A to point B in somewhat of a comfortable situation. I dont really care about the WHPQTP differential of the rear end quad widget. Maybe its just me not being a car person. -------------
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 11:52am
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^Not to be rude, but you come off sounding 100% like a female! Seriously.
The only people I know that don't care about what they drive, are dumbass females and guys that are too ignorant to soak in all this automotive game. I guess you just lack the desire to improve yourself anf your life! Oh well, your loss. ------------- "People who see the future earlier than others are always feared and misunderstood." - Jose Canseco |
Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 11:55am
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So every guy ever knows about cars, right? -------------
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 11:56am
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I don't race either! But I'm smart enough to know, that cars are like the #1 most important tool in life today! If you don't have a car, you don't have jack!
And IMHO, if you don't have a car that reflects your personality, or don't care about that, then it's probably because you LACK personality! Having a capable car can actually get you out of trouble! Not everyone that's into performance cars is into racing, FYI. If you don't care and aren't interested, why waste your time posting?
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 12:01pm
I just don't see how you wouldn't want to be proud of the car you drive! I mean, I assume you work for your money. I know I do. I take pride in my work, and I value my time. I'm not gonna waste my time and energy working my ass off, only to hand my paycheck over to some sleazy used car salesman! I research every major purchase I make, because I respect myself anf the efort I took to get my money. So I make sure to use my money in the most effective way I can, and that includes doing hours and hours of research to make sure I'm making the right decisions for myself. It's not easy by any means, but I guess we can say that's what separates the squares from the studs!
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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 12:02pm
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I didn't buy my vehicle becuase it "Fit my personality", I got it becuase it was affordable and avalible at the time. And I am posting becuase I can. It is an open forum. BTW, I am beginning an "attempted insult from Zesty" tally going from now on. It should be entertaining.
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 12:04pm
Tally away, it's funny to me! I don't even get what you're saying, but knock yourself out! 
Let me ask, what is affordable to you? How much did you pay and for what vehicle? What is important to you in a vehicle? ------------- "People who see the future earlier than others are always feared and misunderstood." - Jose Canseco |
Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 12:16pm
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Lets just agree to disagree this go-round on the forum, mmkay? -------------
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Posted By: PBalla2242
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 12:18pm
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why would you know the wheelbase? -------------
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 12:26pm
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Tae Kwon Do, you see, you do care about what you drive! If you didn't, you wouldn't have done the research to see how reliable the truck was. That's good, I respect that!
I figured you were driving an automatic Honda Accord or Civic sedan! ------------- "People who see the future earlier than others are always feared and misunderstood." - Jose Canseco |
Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 1:01pm
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Well my mom has an Accord which I do very much like. Its a '01. She had a '90 Accord before that one, the thing was a tank. Even up untill the day she traded it, the dang thing ran perfectly. I would have prefered the truck have an auto transmission. Simply enough, I am very lazy. Maybe it just takes time to get used to, but I miss being able to multi-task while driving.
Back to Nissans. Behind my Dad's station, there is an old Datsun 240/Z abandoned, rusting to death. Its a shame, I would kill to have the money to fix it up. -------------
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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 1:02pm
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Insurance needed to know it, I guess it just stuck in my mind. -------------
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 2:52pm
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^Damn you hypocrite double-posting son of a gun!
I can't lie, there really isn't a Honda that gets my attention other than the s2000, and still even if I had the money I would take it elsewhere. You may not have preferred it, but just take my word for it the 5-speed is WAY beter than an auto. You'll learn to love it! Seriously dude, forget living life lazy! You have time to be lazy when you're dead! Enjoy life now before it passes you by, nothing worse than a lost opportunity or wasted time. It would be cool to have a 240z just because they are classic I assume and thus smog exempt, so you can swap in whatever engine you want and not worry about smog! Nice. ------------- "People who see the future earlier than others are always feared and misunderstood." - Jose Canseco |
Posted By: PBalla2242
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 4:29pm
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...your view on cars is really annoying. to say manuals are better for everyone all the time is pretty ridiculous. believe it or not, not every person is interested in pushing their cars to the limit and get the best control or whatever. straight-forward/rush-hour driving just doesn't call for a MT, along with simple preferances for autos.
...just because you drive MT cars or a 240z doesn't make either one so perfect for eveyone. geez, maybe there are more views to a situation than just yours... ...next time you try to help/comment with something, don't, because you suck at it. -------------
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 4:49pm
Aren't you the dude that wanted the auto Altima SER?! Did you end up getting an auto, or manual? How much did you pay and what did you get? Please quote where I said manuals are better for everyone! I didn't, and you are an idiot for trying to generalize my opinion like that. I said myself, there are exceptions where a auto is better....but they are the EXCEPTIONS! Not the norm. I really don't care what you drive, bro. If you really spend the majority of your driving time in rush hour traffic, I feel sorry for you! I don't. I want the most performance for the price, I want total control over my car, so I opted for a manual. Please unwad your panties and re-read the thread, and come back when you are a little less uptight and can answer my questions without blowing your loose lid. Thanks. And no, the Maxima is not a 260HP FWD 350Z, I'm sorry. It's an awesome car, but bad comparison, IMO. ------------- "People who see the future earlier than others are always feared and misunderstood." - Jose Canseco |
Posted By: hoginds24
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 5:31pm
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Whoever said I should pay my sister - My dad bought her the car... the only thing she ever paid for was gas. ------------- [IMG]http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/6924/willproducsv6.jpg"> |
Posted By: BearClaw
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 5:34pm
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Zesty your awsome. In two days you managed to pick fights with
hand full of forumers on a SINGLE thread LOL. I guess congradulations
are in order for you keen ability to piss people off . As for the auto debate Autos have their place and i have owned my self MANY automatic cars. Theirs nothing wrong with wanting an automatic car its personal preferance. And Zesty you have STILL failed to point out WERE i discount your experiance with the cars??? and all the other claims you make about myself you never ONCE pointed out some of what you say about me WHY??? Is it possible because it aint their????? To each his own i guess. Say what ya like I guess as its no sweat off my back i'll continue to offer advice here regardless what you think. Later. ------------- AGD 68 Automag Azodin KPII Sheridan PGP2K Tippmann Crossover XVR Tippmann ProCarbine Tippmann SL68-II Tippmann TiPX |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 6:10pm
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hehe, I try.
A funny thing is, I remember you stating awhile back the advantages and mechanical superiority of the manual transmission, yet now you cop out in order to not ruffle any feathers.....I guess we are just 2 very different people. bearclaw I honestly don't know WTH you mean by that 3rd paragraph, you'll have to explain to me what you mean.
What claim did I make about you, other than I feel you are a hypocrite? All I recall saying was that I fel you are a hypocrite, and that still stands. This is the last time I will explain it: You compared a Taurus to an Altima. I disagreed. I reminded you we were discussing a MAXIMA, not an altima, and that the Maxima had numerous awards for it's engine, whereas I haven't heard the same thing about Ford. You cited that the people who pick those awards don't have enough experience with them......all the while you have never owned either a Taurus or an Altima. You are telling me that the Ford is more reliable and long-lived, and in my expeirience that is just not true. The Nissan engines have gone just as long, and hard and trouble-free, but all the while they offer me better performance with better gas mileage. All I did was call you a hypocrite, and I have explained myself multiple times now. It's pretty obvious. You feel like your opinion should be respected, yet you have no experience with the cars in question, and you seem not to care what someone who owns the cars has to think. No big deal though. You're still cool in my book. First, you say time and experience with the car is the most important factor....yet you have none. Then I come in and offer my opinions based on my experiences with both cars, and you don't really seem to care. Oh well. The funniest thing is, this kid who is whining about me, actually wanted an auto, and then after I kicked some game, he just happens to end up with the 6-speed manual. Coincidence? I think not. At least you're paying attention, even if you are an ungrateful punk! ------------- "People who see the future earlier than others are always feared and misunderstood." - Jose Canseco |
Posted By: the_blade
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 6:25pm
nahhh im going to have to say the most gratifying is rebuilding a car. ------------- 95 base neon 3.0 cai, knifedged crankshaft 60 mill throttle body,14 crane cam crane springs/retainers eagle rods port matched/ polished intake p&p head shaved .015 phantom grip diff dohc exuast |
Posted By: BearClaw
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 6:53pm
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Ok Zesty LAST time . Please Quote from my posts were i discount you experiance with the cars? Please Quote from my posts were i say the Taurus is a more reliabel and long live vehical? And PLEASE point out were i ever knocked on automatic transmishions. I love my sticks but i will never down play an auto. In Fact for a long time i never even owned an stickshift (due to a knee injury). I learned to drive em from the start but it was not till i got my VW that i was the OWNER of one. Hell even now my Rangers an Auto (although that one i wish was stick) cause for the work i do with it the extra gearing would help. As for the Nissan Deal I have pointed out NUMEROUSE times were as a mehcanic i see some things that not even the owner would. I never said my opinion was better than the owners i simply stated it was differant. I get to drive both the vehicals all be it for short spans not mutch differant than the jurnalists BUT i see more than just that ONE car and i see it over the LONG run. I see the Problem areas of a Certin Model NOT just the one car. And lastly im the damn one fixing it i KNOW what brakes and how hard it is to fix. you my friend Zesty need to get you hea out of your rear and actually read these posts. Try reading slower maybe it will help. ------------- AGD 68 Automag Azodin KPII Sheridan PGP2K Tippmann Crossover XVR Tippmann ProCarbine Tippmann SL68-II Tippmann TiPX |
Posted By: PBalla2242
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 7:01pm
you seriously suck as a person. not only are you dumb, but you fail to realize so many of the points being made by other forums here. pay attention, you might want to learn something and drop your ways of thinking. you seriously have the understanding of a 5 year old. Liking MT is one thing, but preaching to everybody that the only way to get a car is to get a MT is dumb. you don't know other people, but you still just blindly push your opinion to everybody. at EVERY single instance where transmissions are an issue, you burst into an annoting (and really predictable by now) routine of saying MT is better w/o any back ups... ...the sig is the Alt SE-R and it's a quote from a mag, which i thought was a fairly decent comparison. i got the 6sp SE-R, why so interested in all the prices and options? don't worry about how i buy cars, the car is prob far out of your reach if you're rocking a 15 yr old 240 anyway. ...finally, just stop all of your dumb arguements. you just pull in random stuff/make up previous posts to help your arguement, and it's not worth my time to point all of it out. -------------
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 7:09pm
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^I knew I would get you going! I love it.
You obviously are a young kid who is incapable of seeing the "gray area". I will not waste my time with you. All I will say is, you are wrong again, I never once said MT is better for everybody, but it is better for the majority of people if they weren't so whack and would just learn to drive! I understand there's a bunch of squares like you who would prefer not to rack your tiny brain by trying to *gasp* manually shift the gears of a vehicle.......that doesn't bother me! The more automatics on the road, the better! For the record, hypocrite, you did say in your other thread, basically exactly what I'me getting at, which is a manual is exponentially more engaging and fun to drive....if you want I can get you a link to where you said it. So just be happy that you were at least smart enough to listen to me, and you made the better decision and got the MT.......I swear it's the most irnoic thing for your dumb self to be so caught up in the auto/manual issue. You don't have to give me my respect, that's cool, all that matters is you made the right choice as a result of my persuation, and I have made the world a better place by steering an impressionable, confused young man in the right direction.....you're welcome, BTW. ------------- "People who see the future earlier than others are always feared and misunderstood." - Jose Canseco |
Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 7:13pm
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haha, you seem pretty candid about how much you paid!
Rest assured, I have a well-paying kick-back job, and I have PLENTY for a nice fat downpayment on ANY new car I wanted.....the difference between me and you is not money, it is intelligence! I did my research, and found a car for less than $2000 that did everything I wanted. I was gonna go for the S14('95-newer 240sx), but I didn't want to waste all my cash and not have any money for upgrades. So I'm rolling a 1992 240sx. Bought it for $1900, had it registered in my name for a bit over $2,000.....I pay a whopping $50/month for insurance! How much are you paying MONTHLY?
Oh yeah, on the basketball court, I'm a 6'2", 170 pound WHITE Shaquille O'Neal!
------------- "People who see the future earlier than others are always feared and misunderstood." - Jose Canseco |
Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 7:16pm
are we lacking cohesive statements in that post or did you fail to differentiate WHO you were insulting? ------------- 
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 7:18pm
^Can you read English? The whole post is directed towards one guy....try and keep up, I know this is truly mind-numbing for you, but just try, for me. 
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Posted By: PBalla2242
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 7:21pm
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...hey, at least i have a brand new 6-speed instead of some shot, early 90s 5MT that probably runs like garbage. sorry -------------
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 7:24pm
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^Dude, your blind stabs would bother me, if my car didn't run like a top.
I've already tested the compression, which was well within specs. The idle is a perfect 700. Everyone that's seen my car has been nothing but impressed....hell, it even came with some rims! I tracked down the original owner and he said he paid $1300 for them, not counting the tires, and the clutch was just recently done. I paid $1900 cash for the car, and they came with rims worth over $1000 and a new clutch....basically I got the car for free. Not to mention it even came with a brand new red-top optima battery(you got one of those?) and a pretty nice detachable cd player. Do you know what a VLSD is? Do you have one on your car? The car runs like a top, don't worry. Care to divulge how much you(your mommy?) paid? I mean anyone can go get ripped on a new car.....I'm sure the saleman was salivating as you(r mom) signed the dotted line! I still can't get over the FWD, 260HP 350Z comment! So basically, it's like a 350Z, by being NOTHING like it?!
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 7:27pm
the quote button wouldn't kill you to use it just once. at the time i posted there was not your signature double post right there so that was 2 people disagreeing with you and 1 post of yours insulting someone. my bad thinking you could be more productive and address multiple people with one post. -------------
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 7:29pm
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^Haha, you can't even admit when you're 100% wrong....it's funny how you try and be a smart-aleck, but you really aren't that smart of witty.
Nice way to backpeddle.......kinda reminds me of grade-school again! Now go scour over my posts and learn a thing or 11. *Edit* You know me bro, I got so much game that it really just can't all be fit in one post sometimes, ya know? gets confusing. I just try and keep it as understandable as possible, sometimes I mess up but hey I'm human. ------------- "People who see the future earlier than others are always feared and misunderstood." - Jose Canseco |
Posted By: PBalla2242
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 7:31pm
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i don't car about your car, just take in the fact that you took in your car w/200K miles, and i took mine with 17. sorry buddy, but no matter how you hype it up, your ride is still come low powered, 14 year old, base model, kid car...frankly, i have no idea how you have pride in it, and those must have been some simpletons that were impressed, b/c i can't see anything worth drooling over on a '92 240.
...maybe you can bring it to pep boys and put some sick mods on it! good luck
no, but i can mention many thing on the SE-R that you don't have  ...
...and by the way, i didn't make the quote, i just liked it, but the SE-R has... -same engine -similar shifting ratios -similar exhaust -same dash pods -similar front suspension (and rear Skyline-type rear) ...i don't blame the mag for coming up with the connection. -------------
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Posted By: Zesty
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 7:39pm
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^Huh? You don't know anything about Nissan's do you? I still see you're conveniently avoiding the pricing issue....that's funny and makes my day right there!
You are going to sleep with a monthly payment of hundreds of dollars over your head.....I go to sleep wondering what new up I'm gonna throw on next. Seriously though, just the fact you don't know the potential and how hot 240sx are right now, show's what level you are on.....you are the kid who made an impulse buy. Have you ever heard of an sr20det? I'm guessing not. Do you know what a VLSD is? Does your car come equipped with one? I assume so, but either way it's FWD, so better served as a souped-up grocery getter! You do know why they call it the "Stealership" don't you?
Seriously, the more I hear from you the more obvious it becomes that you just happened to get lucky by stumbling upon a Nissan.....you really don't even deserve it judging from your attitude and lack of pride. I'm proud of how much I spent on my car and what I got.....I don't care who knows and what their opinion is! For some reason, you are insecure in how much you are paying, so you choose not to disclose! Also, just FYI, if you haven't yet paid for your car, you don't really own it! You don't get the title until you pay that baby off.......maybe you'll know about that in 5 years, if you're lucky.....did you know insurance is cheaper when you have the car paid off? ------------- "People who see the future earlier than others are always feared and misunderstood." - Jose Canseco |