foggy goggles
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Topic: foggy goggles
Posted By: skruge
Subject: foggy goggles
Date Posted: 20 March 2006 at 9:28pm
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Does fogging depend on the goggle lens? I have a really really really really cheap JT goggle. It worked fine the first two times I played then the 3rd time it fogged up something serious. Is there a way I can just get like an anti-fog lens or something? PLEASE DONT SUGGEST I GET DIFFERENT GOGGLES. IF I WANTED TO GO THAT ROUTE I WOULD HAVE DONE SO ALREADY. ------------- Hail to all the nazis on this board. facism lives on! (sarcasm if you cant tell) nobody likes a 
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Posted By: whack-a-mole
Date Posted: 20 March 2006 at 9:34pm
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Yep. There is a type of lense called a thermal lense, they work really well and they don't fog. If you don't want to get new goggles, then I'd suggest some anti-fog spray. I used it for several years before I got some new goggles. I just re-sprayed it every once-in-a-while. It worked well for me. ------------- NASA and the Americans spent millions of dollars and hundreds of hours to develop a pen that would write in space.....The Russians used a pencil. |
Posted By: GThomas
Date Posted: 20 March 2006 at 9:38pm
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What type of JT mask is it? You might be able to buy thermal lenses for it and that should fix your fog problem. Also JT makes a fan that slips onto the top of your mask and that helps with fogging. There are anti-fog sprays that you can spray on your lenses to keep them from fogging. But I heard the anti-fog sprays weaken the lenses, and thats a safety issue. (I don't know if this is true, I have never used the sprays, I just remember someone telling me that. I have alwaysed used thermal goggles and have never had a problem with them fogging up.) |
Posted By: Baewolf
Date Posted: 20 March 2006 at 10:08pm
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Totally buy the thermal lenses for the JT mask, countypaintball sells
them for $15.00, it will be the best $15.00 you ever spent. I kept my
cheap wal-mart bought JT goggles because of it, I wear them whenever
conditions cause fog, and they have never failed me. I can go three
rounds without even wiping the lens, oh and the thermal lens fits
mostly every JT mask ever made even the more expensive ones
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Posted By: skruge
Date Posted: 20 March 2006 at 10:16pm
^^^ correctamundo walmart goggles. I was on my way to the field and had everything else but a mask so i just got a cheap one and it shaved off some money.
I just ordered a bunch of stuff from county yesterday. If only i had posted this yesterday.  ------------- Hail to all the nazis on this board. facism lives on! (sarcasm if you cant tell) nobody likes a
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whack-a-mole wrote:Posted By: Pump Scout
Date Posted: 20 March 2006 at 11:11pm
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If you want to go the thermal route, you'll probably need a thermal Elite lens. JT's come in two sizes/styles: Elite and Spectra. The Elite is smaller, with a narrower field of vision, and is what goes into most of their budget line.
The catch may be finding a thermal Elite lens. And then, of course, going through the misery of changing out the lens itself. JT lens changes were one of the main reasons I decided to never buy another JT mask ever again. ------------- http://www.geocities.com/limitedpump - Limited Pump Paintball |
Posted By: TRAVELER
Date Posted: 20 March 2006 at 11:31pm
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There are anti fog sprays available that you can apply to your goggles. The best stuff is sold at motorcycle accessories sites. Beware of the cheap stuff, it can delaminate your lens.
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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 7:28am
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If you are into buying a Thermal Lense for a cheap POS set of googles, I would just suggest getting a pair of http://www.countysports.com/shop/home.php?cat=264&sort=orderby&sort_direction=0&page=5 - V-Force Vantage's . They are only $30 and use the same lense as the Profilers. We rent these at the field I play at, and I must say they are just as comfortable as my morphs. ------------- 
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Posted By: Pump Scout
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 8:42am
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Erm, not quite... Vantages take the Armor lens. Not quite the same lens, but the same quick-change system and the same anti-fog qualities. I've got a set of Armors here that I'd picked up years ago as a test set - a local field was looking at going to them for rentals, so I was trying them out. They're great, refusing to fog. I wore them instead of my Flex-7 thermals because they fogged less!
I'd definitely agree that getting a set of Vantages would be worlds ahead of changing your JT's to a thermal lens. The Vantage will be much more comfortable, and likely will give better protective coverage. On top of that, it wouldn't cost much more to get the Vantages over a thermal Elite lens by itself. County has thermal lenses for $15 for clear, $18 for chrome. But man, the change-out... it's no fun, especially with some of the more rigid frames on the lower-end goggles. ------------- http://www.geocities.com/limitedpump - Limited Pump Paintball |
Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 8:56am
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I stand corrected.
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Posted By: Baewolf
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 9:21am
I have changed out the lens in 7 pairs of Jt goggles now and athough they seem quite hard they are quite easy. I start at the top left plastic hold down, push it up and off with your thumbs, then go to the middle, them the far right then the bottom left, bottom right then finally the nose, and to put in the new one but follow the reverse of removing the old one. They are actually quite easy if you do this. Besides, like he said he wants the cheapest way to stop fog, "PLEASE DONT SUGGEST I GET DIFFERENT GOGGLES. IF I WANTED TO GO THAT ROUTE I WOULD HAVE DONE SO ALREADY." And the $15 thermal lens no matter how you stack it will still be much cheaper then buying a whole new mask. I think that they work really well, and we play in the snow and my mask never fogs ------------- Don't bring a speed ball gun to a woods ball fight |
Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 9:25am
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I would rather pay $30 for a new pair of googles with a supierior lense, and that are more comfortable than put money into a pair of googles that the foam will wear out after a few days anyways.
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Posted By: Baewolf
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 9:49am
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I have used the thermal lens in my JT mask for almost 2 years now, and
the foam is still there and has not wore out. Funny I never heard of
foam wearing out in a thermal lens ? And after a few days wearing. man
imagine the complaints if that was true, pay $15 for a thermal lens and
it wears out after a few days. "PLEASE DONT SUGGEST I GET DIFFERENT GOGGLES. IF I WANTED TO GO THAT ROUTE I WOULD HAVE DONE SO ALREADY." Why brow beat the poor guy it seemed like he was quite clear on the whole do not suggest different goggles. Go for the thermal lens skruge the foam doean't wear out, it mounts perfectly still and easily I have used mine for almost 2 years without any problems, and my friend has one that he has used for 4 years and it works as good as the day he bought it ------------- Don't bring a speed ball gun to a woods ball fight |
Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 9:53am
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On both of the JT googles I have owned, the glue that holds the foam to the plastic of the google has worn out. If you want I can post pics of the one set I still have. On one it took over a year(that was on the Spectra) and on the cheap Wal-Mart one the glue wore out after about 3 days of play.
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Posted By: Pump Scout
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 10:38am
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Notice I never actually suggested getting the different goggles, just pointed out the benefits...
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Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 12:43pm
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new lenses are 20$ still? ive never had any luck with antifog lenses.
what i did when i wore a pmi mask was rub liquid soap on the inside of the lense. this would help alot. then reapply at lunch. however my invision has a better field of vision and doesnt fog at all... ------------- saving the world, one warship at a time. |
Posted By: skruge
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 9:00pm
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I've taken out the lens of the goggles before just to see how difficult it was. (i do stupid stuff like that sometimes). besides the directions said if you take a direct hit to the lens you should replace right away anyway. so i figured i should see if i could do it. it was a little tedious but it wasnt all that difficult. more time consuming than difficult. i'm going to go with the thermal lens from county. i have another problem though. these darn goggles pinch the top of my nose. (yes im black ) and its annoying and sometimes its a little hard to breath. any way to alter it so it wont pinch?------------- Hail to all the nazis on this board. facism lives on! (sarcasm if you cant tell) nobody likes a
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Posted By: Pump Scout
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 9:10pm
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Kind of doubt it... not without altering the shape of the mask itself, which would compromise the mask integrity.
Those Elite-framed goggles are tiny, though, aren't they? Once upon a time, that's all we had to work with, and without ear protection. Some folks who go back even farther can tell stories of Uvex and shop goggles.... ------------- http://www.geocities.com/limitedpump - Limited Pump Paintball |
Posted By: Ilford Rule
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 9:11pm
not that i can think of. looks like your going to have to get a new mask after all  .remember, it may be alot, but its one of the most important things in paintball. maybe even more so then the quality of the marker. ------------- CPro (w/ polished internals) 14" Bigshot BT SBS Various Rails NcSTAR D4B Macro AA 68/45 
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Posted By: the flanker
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 9:27pm
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i have the stockk jt mask and it has only fogged twice for me because i breath out of my mouth and blow the air downwards so there is no heat to fog the goggles. ------------- 
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Posted By: Baewolf
Date Posted: 21 March 2006 at 9:55pm
Good choice on getting the thermal lens, mine works awesome. As for the goggles pinching, where the nose part comes to a peak at the top, just stick some padding or something right there at the peak, it will draw the mask up just a little and the lower your nose gets from the top the less it will be pinched off. It's what my friend did and it worked for him. ------------- Don't bring a speed ball gun to a woods ball fight |
Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 22 March 2006 at 7:44am
Yeah, i love my spectra... but i can't understand how changing the lens is even possible... I've tried taking it out, and i came to the conclusion you ahve to replace the lens and the frame part... I was wrong. It's just crappy design. I'll look into a vforce mask after this lens is no good, unless I can get it changed for cheap. ------------- Tippmann A-5 Polished Internals E-Grip Ape Board JCS Blade Trigger QEV 8" Bigshot + Apex Ricochet R-5 / Tac Cap Palmers Stabilizer 68/4500 Crossfire |
Posted By: Baewolf
Date Posted: 22 March 2006 at 8:13am
I have changed out the lens in 7 pairs of Jt goggles now and athough they seem quite hard they are quite easy. I start at the top left plastic hold down, push it up and off with your thumbs, then go to the middle, them the far right then the bottom left, bottom right then finally the nose, and to put in the new one but follow the reverse of removing the old one. They are actually quite easy if you do this. ------------- Don't bring a speed ball gun to a woods ball fight |
Posted By: rossy11223
Date Posted: 22 March 2006 at 6:32pm
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Taken from experience, JT masks are not very comfortable at all. I bought a cheap one as my first mask. The foam is itchy and the lens is near impossible to change. The thermal lens fogged up on me constantly. The biggest thing is, it is just way too big on me. I thought it was bulky and I constantly had to push it up during games. You can do what everyone here says. Buy a thermal lens and a fan. If that is all you think you need, that is great. It is your mask after all. My new VForce Vantage is perfect though. I can change the lens in a matter of seconds and it is extremely comfortable. It never fogs and it fits around my head perfectly. I am not suggesting you go out and buy a new $80 mask. I'm just saying that there are some very nice masks out on the market and you don't have to spend an arm and a leg on all of them. Remember, your mask is the most important paintball gear you will use. |
Posted By: dodan44
Date Posted: 22 March 2006 at 6:42pm
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buy a cheap v-force and you will have no more problems. ------------- i pawn noobs |
Posted By: bowhunter
Date Posted: 22 March 2006 at 8:06pm
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Ive used Mothers car wax on the inside(use a very soft cloth for no scratches) NO MORE FOGGING UP GONE!!!! ------------- *NJ.OUTLAWS* ANGEL G7 KARNEVOIR Halos / rip drives angel air 68-4500s Its all i need to school ya !! |
Posted By: Shub
Date Posted: 22 March 2006 at 10:37pm
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Bowhunter, that sounds kind of dangerous...car wax may weaken the plastic that makes up the lenses.
I agree with Pump Scout about the difficulty of changing the lenses in JT masks. My JT Spectra is a very nice mask, very comfortable, but if I played more, I would have upgraded long ago to V-forces. The lenses snap out and back in with little trouble, in under a minute. |
Posted By: Pump Scout
Date Posted: 23 March 2006 at 9:27am
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While we're on the subject of goggles, I've been seeing a TON of very nice goggle sets going VERY cheap on PBN lately. Came across one guy selling a set of Profilers with two lenses for $45, one selling a Profiler that "could use a new lens" for $25, another selling Profiler for $40. Why are people dumping Profilers? Well, because of the new Vents goggles, which are an even nicer chassis than the V-Force line... and offer a true thermal lens, fog-resistant singles, AND a quick-change system.
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Posted By: bowhunter
Date Posted: 23 March 2006 at 7:54pm
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Posted By: ugly mug
Date Posted: 23 March 2006 at 8:17pm
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I used to hair conditioner on the inside and out side of my cheap jt goggles and it worked great. put a little on and clean it off with a tissue, clean it good because it does cause a film that keeps the fog away. ------------- 98 Custom lapco bigshot 14 palmers stab custom milling Super R/T 5 1/2 Drop w/ on/off |