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Topic: im crossing into the blue...
Posted By: PAINTBALL1
Subject: im crossing into the blue...
Date Posted: 29 March 2006 at 10:47pm
Well i was set to go into Army basic training in August, and from the time I signed the initial paperwork (nothing is final until the day you leave for basic, when you sign the bottom line)ive been looking into the Airforce, and have decided to void my contract with Army, and join up with the Airforce. I havent picked my job yet, i need to do it, but i have a few in mind. I think overall the Airforce will be a better choice in the long run. Also they will take care of me and my family better than any other branch. So hopefully it all works out...

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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 29 March 2006 at 10:49pm
No dude. Go army.

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Posted By: Sammy
Date Posted: 29 March 2006 at 10:50pm
Cross into the Blue.

*Cues GodSmack*


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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 29 March 2006 at 10:52pm
The army will love you more.

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Posted By: PAINTBALL1
Date Posted: 29 March 2006 at 10:53pm
Well im open for comments, so please present to me your argument?

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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 29 March 2006 at 10:54pm
Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

The army will love you more.

they love you long time.


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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 29 March 2006 at 10:56pm
FWIW, I've enjoyed being an army reservist in an infantry regiment. That said, I am in Canada, not the states. Still the cameraderie is just a lot closer when you're training to fight, not do some support trade.

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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 29 March 2006 at 10:57pm
Originally posted by PAINTBALL1 PAINTBALL1 wrote:

Well im open for comments, so please present to me your argument?


Well ile have more for you tomorrow.

But dude, you got an inteligence MOS? You start your MOS in like July. You have 5 months of training. Wich will be PRICELESS. The MOS you chose gives you a TS clearence, when you get out of the army, ANYONE will hire you.

The AIT you will get also counts as college credits to an AA.

The army has EarmyU. In your MOS. You will make rank QUICK.

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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 29 March 2006 at 11:00pm
The 3 letter abbreviations are killing me.....

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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 29 March 2006 at 11:04pm
MOS= Military Ocupational Specialty
AIT= Advanced Individual Training

I used to really hate them. But you pick them up quick.

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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 29 March 2006 at 11:06pm
DBibeau, what are you?

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"Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation."

-FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011.

Yup, he actually said that.


Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 29 March 2006 at 11:06pm
97 Echo. Human Inteligence collector.

Cant wait to knock basic out and ship for my training.

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Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 29 March 2006 at 11:09pm
Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

The army
army all the way. im gonna try and do rotc in college, but if i dont get into college then im just gonna join, im gonna try and do airborne, air assualt and if i can ranger


Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 29 March 2006 at 11:13pm
If you want ranger. Start training now. You need to be able to run 5 miles. Each mile needs to be under 8 minutes.

Your going to colleges depends on what you want out of the army. Is it a stepping stone to another career or are you going career. If you are going to career, be an officer.

If not, go enlisted, if you go enlisted, it IS possible to become an officer. And if you dont want to go to school while your in the army, you can always drop a packet and go warrant. You can always drop a packet.

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Posted By: DracoPlasm
Date Posted: 29 March 2006 at 11:13pm
The army seems like the "cooler" decision but in the long run the air force is much better and will take better care of you

You can choose the tempting one or the smart one but the choice is yours

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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 29 March 2006 at 11:14pm
Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

If you want ranger. Start training now. You need to be able to run 5 miles. Each mile needs to be under 8 minutes.

Your going to colleges depends on what you want out of the army. Is it a stepping stone to another career or are you going career. If you are going to career, be an officer.

If not, go enlisted, if you go enlisted, it IS possible to become an officer. And if you dont want to go to school while your in the army, you can always drop a packet and go warrant. You can always drop a packet.


Hell, that's only 8km. Not much of a run. I thought the rangers did more than that?


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"Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation."

-FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011.

Yup, he actually said that.


Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 29 March 2006 at 11:14pm
It all depends on what he wants. The navy pays more. But the army will give him more skills later.

He got an inteligence MOS. If he goes into the army, knocks out his training, does all that. Once he gets out, CIA, NSA, OGA, FBI, US. Marshals. They will all want him.

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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 29 March 2006 at 11:16pm
Yup. An Int background is VERY attractive these days.

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"Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation."

-FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011.

Yup, he actually said that.


Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 29 March 2006 at 11:17pm
Originally posted by brihard brihard wrote:


Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

If you want ranger. Start training now. You need to be able to run 5 miles. Each mile needs to be under 8 minutes.

Your going to colleges depends on what you want out of the army. Is it a stepping stone to another career or are you going career. If you are going to career, be an officer.

If not, go enlisted, if you go enlisted, it IS possible to become an officer. And if you dont want to go to school while your in the army, you can always drop a packet and go warrant. You can always drop a packet.
Hell, that's only 8km. Not much of a run. I thought the rangers did more than that?


Miles are longer than kms. And each mile has to be under 8 minutes. The training is very tough.

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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 29 March 2006 at 11:17pm
Originally posted by brihard brihard wrote:


Yup. An Int background is VERY attractive these days.


Dude, if he goes army, he wont stay there, no way, he will get out and any agency, providing he has a good record will give him a GS-14 off the bat.

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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 29 March 2006 at 11:20pm
Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

Originally posted by brihard brihard wrote:


Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

If you want ranger. Start training now. You need to be able to run 5 miles. Each mile needs to be under 8 minutes.

Your going to colleges depends on what you want out of the army. Is it a stepping stone to another career or are you going career. If you are going to career, be an officer.

If not, go enlisted, if you go enlisted, it IS possible to become an officer. And if you dont want to go to school while your in the army, you can always drop a packet and go warrant. You can always drop a packet.
Hell, that's only 8km. Not much of a run. I thought the rangers did more than that?


Miles are longer than kms. And each mile has to be under 8 minutes. The training is very tough.


5 miles is 8km. I ran 17km the other day.  5 miles in 40 mins is a decent pace, but very doable.


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"Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation."

-FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011.

Yup, he actually said that.


Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 29 March 2006 at 11:22pm
Yeah but he goes to basic in either fort Sill or fort lennordwood. Then he gets out in like september, it will be bloody hot. But his AIT will be wonderful weather. He will be in arizona, its great at Fort Huachucca.

I cant understand why he would go airforce.

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Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 29 March 2006 at 11:23pm
Well I think your doing good by doing this, you'll move up a little quicker in the Airforce(assuming you wanna be some sort of pilot) you'll also recive a special medal/badge for Dual occupations.

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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 29 March 2006 at 11:24pm
He wont be a pilot without being an officer in the airforce.

But if he goes army, he could drop a packet, go warrant and fly helocopters. He would then get a bonus for dual MOS and another one for switching MOS.

Being in his intel MOS he will make rank quicker in the army.

And the army has better life insurance.

Air Force= 250,000
Army= 600,000

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Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 29 March 2006 at 11:40pm

Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

If you want ranger. Start training now. You need to be able to run 5 miles. Each mile needs to be under 8 minutes.

Your going to colleges depends on what you want out of the army. Is it a stepping stone to another career or are you going career. If you are going to career, be an officer.

If not, go enlisted, if you go enlisted, it IS possible to become an officer. And if you dont want to go to school while your in the army, you can always drop a packet and go warrant. You can always drop a packet.

yea, thats one of the reasons i dont think ill make ranger, but at a minimum i want to be airborne and air assault, any tips on running (probably a dumb question)



Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 29 March 2006 at 11:42pm
Start now. Run 30/60s. Run, run some more. Every day. Get your mile down to 8:30. Thats the maximum time allowed for a mile to start basic. Then improve on your distance.

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Posted By: GThomas
Date Posted: 29 March 2006 at 11:44pm
Originally posted by GI JOES SON GI JOES SON wrote:

Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

The army
army all the way. im gonna try and do rotc in college, but if i dont get into college then im just gonna join, im gonna try and do airborne, air assualt and if i can ranger


ROTC is a good choice. I'm in Army ROTC right now, I havn't contracted yet though, I'm waiting untill the last possible moment. One thing cool about ROTC is you can do Airborne, Air Assualt, Northern Warfare,  or Mountain warfare during the summer while in college. Each ROTC Battalion only gets a few slots to these training camps, so you got to work hard for them. You can also prepare for being a Ranger while in ROTC. Each ROTC batallion has there own Ranger club, that meats weekly and competes against other ROTC units from different schools in the region. PM if you have any questions you want answered by someone who knows and is not a recruiter.

As for going Air Force over Army, it depends what you want to do. What job are you looking into? The Air Force does somethings very well while the Army does others. Really think about this desicion, do not rush into this in anyway.
 


Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 29 March 2006 at 11:49pm
This kid(paintball1) was already accepted to an inteligence school. He already has his MOS, 98 Charlie. Intel in the army is really great, he can do well for himself. In his MOS, it wouldnt be difficult to become a warrant officer as its a technical MOS.

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Posted By: GThomas
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 12:25am
yeah, if you're doing intel definetely go Army. oh and the Rangers do a 10k run not a 8k run, and they have to do it in less then a hour in full gear. 


Posted By: Savior_six
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 1:55am
Hey, Im in the Airforce right now. I crossed into the Blue 27sept05. So far I really like it, if graduated tech school and am awaiting my orders, (Security Forces HUA!) Anyways in my opinion you'll like the Airforce better, not to dis the Army. Have you been to MEPS yet?

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Posted By: Kal.
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 2:16am
<---- USAF C-130H LOADMASTER
           "LOAD-CLEAR, WHERE'S THE BEER?!"


DUDE, GO AIR FORCE, AND GO AIR NATIONAL GUARD.      TRUST ME. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR NEED ANY ADVICE pm ME.


Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 4:28am
Originally posted by Sammy Sammy wrote:

Cross into the Blue.

*Cues GodSmack*


that was navy

i was talkin to a spc. who just got back from iraq last friday, and he said "Listen to what I'm about to say...COLLEGE, did you hear me college...ranting on about how being enlisted sucks... officer walks by, you salute"i wish i went to college too, you *profanity*"... getting up in the stuff sucks... better to be in the rear with the gear... you should only enlist if you've done nothing but smoke crack for past 6 years... if my son ever tries to enlist(backhand motion)"go to college you little ****" "

he basicaly made it very clear that being enlisted blows while saying **edited** as much as possible.


Posted By: The American
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 9:38am
I hear that the Air Force has the best Barracks.

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Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 10:26am

Originally posted by brihard brihard wrote:

5 miles is 8km. I ran 17km the other day.  5 miles in 40 mins is a decent pace, but very doable.

Indeed.  10k times for anybody with any amount of running experience should be 40 minutes or less - doing 8k in that time requires training, but is no great athletic feat.

(Assuming regular running gear, of course, and not carrying an M249 with loads of ammo.  Then it's a tad harder.)



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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 2:33pm
Dude, of course he thinks being in iraq sucks, hes a specialist, probably infantry, hes going to have it ruff.

Right now the army is getting really nice baracks. They are basicaly college dorm rooms now.

And the rangers arent running that in full gear. They do swim something like 15 meters in full gear, but they dont run with it. They run like everyone else, in PT clothes.

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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 2:57pm

Im going to college...

 



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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 2:58pm
It doesnt matter, you wouldnt get past MEPS.

Armed forces have weight requirements.

Theres a comercial i like, it says, "And think, somewhere some poor guy is buying a mini-van."

Thats you.

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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 3:01pm

Oh darn, I dont get to go die somewhere?

That was my goal in life. I guess I will have to settle for a life of higher education and a well paying job.

I wish I was you.

 



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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 3:03pm
There are lots of non-comabt positions in the armed forces.

And in benifits and pay, i will make more than you.

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Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 3:04pm
damn it dbib posted before me... oh well

but yeah... i'm on the same page as whale... going to college. 

and i'm lovin it. 


Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 3:07pm

Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:



And in benifits and pay, i will make more than you.

We will just have to see.

Sorry I offended you by saying I was going to college. Oh, by the way, real college. Not community college.

Where did you go again?



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Posted By: PAINTBALL1
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 3:13pm
Ok, im back to finally post in my own topic...        &nbs p; 

My main reason for going Air-Force is my family. I'm 18, and have a 16 month old son and a girlfriend of almost 4 years (soon to be wife in August). The Air-Force will be a better way of life for my family. All my depolyments (single) will be typically 50-67 days but of course sometimes more (but not more than 90 days). I am garunteed 15 months at my home base with my family, then one month of training at my home base before my deployment. Come back from my deployment and im with my family for 15 months. Its a nice cycle, im never going to be put somewhere and not know if im going to be digging in the sand for 8 months to be home for 3 days and go back and do it again. The Air-force will take better care of me, better facilities and what not. Also DBIB i see you keep stressing the MOS i had Lined up for the Army and how it set me up good for when i get out and what not, but the Air-force also has many,many great AFS (air force spcialties) that will put me in great positions after i leave the service. Both services have their good and bad sides, but for me i have personally found less Cons on the Air-Force side.


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Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 3:15pm

Originally posted by procarbinefreak procarbinefreak wrote:

... going to college. 

and i'm lovin it. 

Things are better now?

That's good.



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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 3:18pm
But dude, people will be slobbing all over you because of your training. The army has plenty of family services for your fiance and son.

WHALE, you didnt offend me. Going into the military isnt an option for you right now.

So i really dont care.

Ile be an officer in 2 years with my college credits and my AIT, so, i could care less about you going to college. While your enjoying the safe sheltered monotony of going to class and doing your work and everything on time, ile be taking classes, training and building a career and background that will be priceless when i get out.

You couldnt do any armed forces, and you know it. So dont YOU be offended.

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Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 3:19pm
well... they'll be good if i get that job... 

but yeah... the program is what i was looking for in the first place... bio-medical sciences... no engineering, no physics, no "find the moment about A when a force is applied at B" crap. 

plus i'm out of the dorms...


anyway... i'd actually agree with the air force decision since you have a family... glad to see you're doing what's best for them.  good luck with whatever you do and don't get shot.


Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 3:24pm
It depends if hes going to go career with the air force. If hes going career he can take courses through the air force and become an officer and do very well. The best officers i know started out as enlisted soldiers.

But if hes just doing his bit and getting out and using it as a steping stone, army is the way to go. He could get an intel job with the CIA or FBI or anyone else, he could work off fort mead with some REALLY cool stuff. He would have a hell of a lot of fun, and still be close to home.

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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 3:24pm

Originally posted by procarbinefreak procarbinefreak wrote:

well... they'll be good if i get that job... 

Hint hint nudge wink cough.



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Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 3:24pm
Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:



Ile be an officer in 2 years with my college credits and my AIT, so, i could care less about you going to college. While your enjoying the safe sheltered monotony of going to class and doing your work and everything on time, ile be taking classes, training and building a career and background that will be priceless when i get out.

You couldnt do any armed forces, and you know it. So dont YOU be offended.


many colleges offer some very nice internships that help build on the career that your current major is.  in fact the school i just transfered out of has emails sent out almost every day about various internships that have to do specificly with the intended major that students are in.  regardless of what you think dbib... colleges don't just give you homework, give you a degree and let you go on your merry way.  they offer lots of opportunities w/ various companies to provide their students with a great resume and job opportunities.

and that last statement is the mentality that i hate... offended because i can't "serve my country"  that's BS... it's a personal choice to join up and be an order taker in the military... obviously whale chose not to regardless if he would be able to or not.  i don't think he'd be too offended by you telling him he wouldn't be able to make it. 


Posted By: PAINTBALL1
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 3:26pm
Thanks procarbinefreak, but if it wasnt for the family id probaly be going army. But i like the better chance of a more stable lifestyle. Not getting shot shouldnt be too difficult, ill be way up high, or too far away to get hit. atleast i hope....
but while im typing ill give one example of how the Arforce takes care of their guys.   A good friend of mines dad ( TSG. Ince) was deployed to a hot sandy desert type place ( he couldnt tell me the name)and they were given more than enough tents for the unit that was going. The tents they had could sleep 9, but to be comfortable they only slept 6 to a tent and brought more tents. When they arrived the army guys were sleeping 9 but sometimes 11 to a tent. When the Airforce rolled in they wanted their guys to be comfortable so they had it arranged for the window air conditioning units on the Army officer tents to be removed and used on the airforce guys, who were enlisted. Thats service.. id be working alot more proficiently if i was in A.C. too.

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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 3:29pm
He didnt chose not to join. He isnt eligable. Theres a big difference. He also doesnt have the personality to take orders. He doesnt like authority. It goes with his "punk" persona he has built for himself.

And the armed forces isnt just filled with order takers. Obeying orders is a large part of millitary life, but thats not all, you do your job and take pride in it, advance your career, learn skills ect ect.

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Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 3:32pm
if he wanted to join he could have worked out, lost weight and then enlisted... but he didn't

he didn't want to join therefore he chose not to join. 


Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 3:34pm
You say he could have worked out. I say hes just lazy.

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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 3:36pm

Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

that will be priceless when i get out.

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So it is the same, except I have less risk of being killed. I dont get the priceless stuff though.

Damnit. I wanted some of that priceless too.

 



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Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 3:37pm
Originally posted by Tae Kwon Do Tae Kwon Do wrote:

Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:



And in benifits and pay, i will make more than you.

We will just have to see.

Sorry I offended you by saying I was going to college. Oh, by the way, real college. Not community college.

Where did you go again?

we get it your going to college....this is supposed to be a somewhat productive thread, at least have the decency to post something half way intelligent...we dont care that your going to college



Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 3:39pm
Originally posted by GI JOES SON GI JOES SON wrote:

Originally posted by Tae Kwon Do Tae Kwon Do wrote:

Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:



And in benifits and pay, i will make more than you.

We will just have to see.

Sorry I offended you by saying I was going to college. Oh, by the way, real college. Not community college.

Where did you go again?

we get it your going to college....this is supposed to be a somewhat productive thread, at least have the decency to post something half way intelligent...we dont care that your going to college

Hrmm.

I just said I was going to college. Dbib got his undies in a knot about it, dont you go getting it to.

I will retract my statement if it will make you feel better.

I am NOT going to college.

There. Carry on my wayward son.



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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 3:40pm
God. Kansas sucks.

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Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 3:43pm
^^all im sayin is hes trying to get opinions on whats better, the army or air force and why, and your sitting here arguing with people about dumb crap isnt helping or benefitting anything or anyone


Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 3:47pm
And you are helping...how?

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Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 3:50pm
im just  asking questions about stuff, im interested in going into the army so reading this stuff is somewhat beneficial to me....having to scroll past the dumb posts that arent beneficial in any way is just irritating 


Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 3:51pm
Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

You say he could have worked out. I say hes just lazy.


although his weight could run in his family... genetics do have a large part in that sort of thing.  but i wouldn't necessarily deciding to go to a good university with an intended major in mind lazy.... he has goals and he's going after them.




Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 3:54pm

Originally posted by procarbinefreak procarbinefreak wrote:

an intended major in mind

^Double.

I don't know how long that will last, if I will get to overworked or not, but for now I am registered as going for a double major.

Paintball1, Didn't mean to hijack your thread [I wasnt really the one doing the hijacking, you can thank Dbib].

I know alot of people who were in the AirForce and now run the tech and servers at my school.

Do good, have fun, you are doing the right thing for your family. Slainte.



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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 3:55pm
He could at least try and be a healthy weight. Hes going to end up with diabetese or heart disease some day.

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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 3:56pm
Originally posted by GI JOES SON GI JOES SON wrote:

im just  asking questions about stuff, im interested in going into the army so reading this stuff is somewhat beneficial to me....having to scroll past the dumb posts that arent beneficial in any way is just irritating 

it's the internet, live with it. and btw, isn't your dad some war hero? he should know ALL there is to know about EVERYTHING...especially your precious army info.

dbib, i highly doubt you will make more money than whale. i highly doubt you will make more than i will. call it stuck up, whatever you want, it's my opinion and i'm entitled to it. and we get it, you are joining the military. that doesn't make you a better person. you still like guys and faked a deaf gf in an IRC channel...

i would never join the military and go through boot camp. i don't take orders from people. and that's not a weakness, for the line of work i look forward to entering it's essential.


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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 4:01pm
The army enlisted get 99 thousand in pay and benifits. Thats just your basic private.

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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 4:04pm
...and the base starting salary for individuals with CCIE certification from cisco is around $160,000 not including benefits.

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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 4:05pm
In the private sector a person with his MOS could easily make that.

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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 4:06pm

Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

The army enlisted get 99 thousand in pay and benifits. Thats just your basic private.

Source?



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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 4:09pm
Originally posted by Tae Kwon Do Tae Kwon Do wrote:

Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

The army enlisted get 99 thousand in pay and benifits. Thats just your basic private.


Source?



The army.

The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) recently estimated that the average Active Duty service member received a compensation package worth $99,000. Non-cash compensation represents almost 60 percent of this package. Non-cash compensation includes health care, retirement pay, childcare and free or subsidized food, housing and education. Coupled with regular cash compensation, this adds up to attractive compensation for Soldiers.

http://www.goarmy.com/benefits/total_compensation.jsp - Read all you want.

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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 4:12pm

Hrmm. 60% Non-Cash benefits

Thats not bad.

I really dont doubt the money thing. I have no idea what the starting pay for a person doing research and writing peices for a news publication is, or the workings up to that point.

I dont really care either. Its what I want to do.



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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 4:15pm
We have people that do what you want do but for the Navy, Air Force and Army. The guys that do it, LOVE it. I know one guy that all he does is travel to different bases interviewing soldiers at different bases.

For any feild that you want to persue, the army has a job for you to get your foot in the door and learn the trade.

That rings true from graphic design to veterinarian.

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Posted By: cadet_sergeant
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 7:33pm

Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

Yeah but he goes to basic in either fort Sill or fort lennordwood. Then he gets out in like september, it will be bloody hot. But his AIT will be wonderful weather. He will be in arizona, its great at Fort Huachucca.

I cant understand why he would go airforce.

Ahhhh fort Huachucca... i love it. great MI burgers, great Biscuts and gravy in the morning, here i'll give you a ordering tip for biscuts and gravy. you get biscuts, then get some bacon/sausage/ham then ask for gravy. if you ask for biscuts and gravy then try to get bacon/sausage/ham they cut down the portions.... plus there is a pop-eye's chicken about 1/2 mile away from the chow hall (directly accross the street from the base commanders office). there is also a paintball field just as you leave town on your way to Phoenix. o if you get a chance go to the semitary they have on base, really cool.



Posted By: youm0nt
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 7:37pm
good luck


Posted By: the flanker
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 9:10pm
i can run a mile is 6 min 7 sec so i could pass that test and im only 12

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Posted By: Savage93fvss
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 9:11pm

10 Bucks says GI JOES SON doesnt go into any branch of the service at all.

Does anybody know anything about the Marine Reservists? Pm me detials if you do, Im veeeeerrrrrrry intrested

Edit:Flanker its probably because you havent hit puberty yet and are about as big around as my arm, with no muscle at all. And about 90 pounds. That and your probably subtracting a min or so. Im 5' 9" 155 and I run the mile in 8 18



Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 10:24pm

Originally posted by High Voltage High Voltage wrote:

Originally posted by GI JOES SON GI JOES SON wrote:

im just  asking questions about stuff, im interested in going into the army so reading this stuff is somewhat beneficial to me....having to scroll past the dumb posts that arent beneficial in any way is just irritating 

it's the internet, live with it. and btw, isn't your dad some war hero? he should know ALL there is to know about EVERYTHING...especially your precious army info.

dbib, i highly doubt you will make more money than whale. i highly doubt you will make more than i will. call it stuck up, whatever you want, it's my opinion and i'm entitled to it. and we get it, you are joining the military. that doesn't make you a better person. you still like guys and faked a deaf gf in an IRC channel...

i would never join the military and go through boot camp. i don't take orders from people. and that's not a weakness, for the line of work i look forward to entering it's essential.

first of all he wasnt a war hero, he was an average soldier like all the others that got sent to vietnam. second, any info he would know would be 20 years old, he retired in 1985...the least people could do is ignore the serious threads, theres plenty of others to screw with.



Posted By: holysmartone
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 10:34pm
Id recommend the corps to you, as thats what Im in.
But its not for everyone. You seem to be interested in the money. While I believe thats the wrong reason to join the services, its your choice. Thats why Im a Marine, I want to be the best, and I believe in joining to serve your country, not joining to get money.
The marines probably are not what your looking for, I can tell this from the earlier posts.


Posted By: 98God
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 11:14pm
Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

You say he could have worked out. I say hes just lazy.


How can you even say that without knowing him personally?


Posted By: Gpacker4686
Date Posted: 31 March 2006 at 12:01am
well i sorta agree with DBibeau855 but i wouldn't go active army. So national guard. I'm not sure where you are at but here in pa just for signing up you can get $20000 (for one of i think 16 jobs) also here in pa you can go to any state funded collage turion(sp) free. while in collage you can get up to $4500 in federal turion assistance and up to $3000 for the palgrant(i beleive that whats its called). During the months you are in collage you get you base pay plus $293(its either 293 or 297) and if you score above a 50 on the asvab you get another $200.

All you have to do is one weekend a month and 2 weeks a year. Most of the time they try and put you near you family. And you get all the benifets the active army gets b/c it is the Army National Guard.

I have been in since June 25 2005 and it is the best choose i made.

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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 01 April 2006 at 1:21am
Originally posted by cadet_sergeant cadet_sergeant wrote:

Originally posted by DBibeau855 DBibeau855 wrote:

Yeah but he goes to basic in either fort Sill or fort lennordwood. Then he gets out in like september, it will be bloody hot. But his AIT will be wonderful weather. He will be in arizona, its great at Fort Huachucca. I cant understand why he would go airforce.


Ahhhh fort Huachucca... i love it. great MI burgers, great Biscuts and gravy in the morning, here i'll give you a ordering tip for biscuts and gravy. you get biscuts, then get some bacon/sausage/ham then ask for gravy. if you ask for biscuts and gravy then try to get bacon/sausage/ham they cut down the portions.... plus there is a pop-eye's chicken about 1/2 mile away from the chow hall (directly accross the street from the base commanders office). there is also a paintball field just as you leave town on your way to Phoenix. o if you get a chance go to the semitary they have on base, really cool.



Heh.. Man, thats basicaly what i wanted to know. Everyone i asked has just been all, oh yeah, fort Huachuka, great place, blah blah blah.

You helped more. Thank you.

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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 01 April 2006 at 1:27am
OK, Dbib, could you hold off on all the army crap til you're at least through basic training? I get sick of the 'l337 recruits' the internet is full of. Get your basic and your MOC done, THEN you can speak with some authority. I'm not attacking you, but it's starting to wear on some of us. Call it a friendly suggestion.

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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 01 April 2006 at 10:25am
Dude, PJs > *


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Posted By: PAINTBALL1
Date Posted: 01 April 2006 at 11:18am
hmm.. well this thread has gone down the tubes.
But everyone has their personal choice of what they want for their future. Some people want college which is good, well great if thats what you want. For me personally college isnt something i want to do. But thats for ME. I'm tired of watching people argue about whos going to make more, do better things, and what not, just respect eachother on what decisions you make and in 10 years then you can talk your crap. But military seems to be what i want to do, for many reasons. Every choice has their pros and cons, you just weigh eeach one and make a decision.

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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 01 April 2006 at 11:20am
USMC!

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Posted By: mjicmike
Date Posted: 01 April 2006 at 12:50pm
that's good you did some researching PAINTBALL1.  AirForce is your best bet for your situation.  I was in the NAVY for 8 years, and there would have been little chance for me to keep my own family together if I had any back then.  We have longer deployments out to sea than any of the branches.  An average deployment time for our battle group back then was about 8 months and sometimes we were out at sea for over a month.  A month in high seas can wear down the most senior sailor onboard any ship quickly.  So stick with what can help you and your family.  Good luck. 

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Posted By: holysmartone
Date Posted: 01 April 2006 at 3:29pm
Originally posted by Snake6 Snake6 wrote:

USMC!

OORAH!


Posted By: PAINTBALL1
Date Posted: 01 April 2006 at 10:53pm
Thanks for the support Mjicmike, ive heard from a few that the navy is doing better for families than before, but i dont know for sure. I did talk to the navy but i didnt think it was for me. Do you have any regrets for joining the navy> Is there anything you would have done different? and what did you do?

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Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 01 April 2006 at 10:58pm
i think a lot of people who join the military think the same thing (ROTC) at least once from time to time, my dad said he wishes he knew about ROTC, bc he would have done it....if you can you should look into that, being an officer would mean better benefits for your family in some regards probably


Posted By: PAINTBALL1
Date Posted: 01 April 2006 at 11:04pm
Im in JROTC now, but not sure if i want to deal with college now, or do it while im in? its something im still pondering with now. But most likely i will enlist and attempt some college while im in.

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Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 01 April 2006 at 11:10pm
thats what my dad did, and after 21 years he retired and became a lawyer, so despite what the people here have said, you could still end up making more than them afterward....but if your an officer your definitely gonna be treated better and stuff....plus you get to fly those big shiny planes


Posted By: PAINTBALL1
Date Posted: 01 April 2006 at 11:15pm
wow a lawyer after 21 years.. hes doin well..lol. I dont know about flying, i fly cessna's, nothing like a jet. But i think what i will do is make good with the pilots and hitch a few rides.

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Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 01 April 2006 at 11:22pm
yea he was gonna do JAG but he missed the cut off date for his age by a few days literally, so he got a free education basically and new hes partners with someone and they run their firm upstate ny


Posted By: PAINTBALL1
Date Posted: 01 April 2006 at 11:33pm
good deal..so im assuming he was happy about his enlistment.

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Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 01 April 2006 at 11:41pm
for the most part, cut out the 4 years in nam and im sure he would have been happier lol.....but yea i guess overall hes happy about it, but he still wishes he had even known about rotc at the time



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