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Topic: Sniperball
Posted By: danieljk
Subject: Sniperball
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 4:45pm

OK i know there have been a lot of ideas regarding better paintball "bullets" and what-not.  But i've got an idea, there is something called a "sniperball" that was released around '92-'93, and it was basically like the back of a nerf ball that u glued onto your paintball. 

From the person i heard used them, they worked well w/ distance and accuracy(and were extremely consistent), even w/ C02 and the guns around that time.

I think it'd be an awesome idea to make one again, and make a paintball that has walls inside it, so that the paint will rotate... so say you're shooting through a rifled barrel, it'll actually spin w/ the "bullet."

OK, now you guys can kill me for being another person trying to better the paintball.



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Posted By: the flanker
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 5:06pm
you said you glued something onto your paintball right? Well then you would have to do a lot of gluing unless you are going to hit first shot no matter what

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Posted By: danieljk
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 5:08pm
I think they came automatically glued on(balls included).

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Posted By: Jman27
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 5:28pm
eh

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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 5:37pm
and how would u load these?

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Posted By: -=Tippmann=-
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 6:10pm
Probally fully manual or by clips because you wouldn't be able to use a hopper i dont think.


Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 11:00pm
Oh boy. This thread is going to get very verbally violent.

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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 11:50pm
I would laugh histarically at you... but I'm to tired so I'll just do it the no fun way and say, no.

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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 04 April 2006 at 1:02am
it's just not practical.  with todays advances, i don't think we really need these sniper balls. 

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Posted By: MVM91
Date Posted: 04 April 2006 at 2:48pm
i dont like the idea but the wall one sounds intriguing

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Posted By: danieljk
Date Posted: 04 April 2006 at 6:00pm

Yeah that was my own idea(the walls), can't take credit for the sniperball concept however.

The wall is way more practical... and it could actually reinforce the paintball so not only is the paint spinning w/ the momentum, but the paintball is reinforced to stay in the shape of a perfect circle... i have a good thinking this would help the flatline/apex barrels a LOT.

However i think it'd cost a bit more.



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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 04 April 2006 at 7:01pm

Why reinforce balls when people want brittle paint?

I have taken Lens bounces and Hopper bounces along with body bounces. Why make a harder ball that will make stuff like that easier?



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Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 04 April 2006 at 7:45pm
For the 90 millionth time, paint already spins just fine. If it didnt spin, the flatline wouldnt work.

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Posted By: kevinthegreat
Date Posted: 04 April 2006 at 9:26pm
ZOMG $n1p3r b477s!!!!1one11!

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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 04 April 2006 at 9:38pm

PRAISE ALLAH!



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Posted By: danieljk
Date Posted: 05 April 2006 at 4:23pm
Pretty much figured it was a bad idea, but it was worth a shot

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Posted By: Cheetos3254
Date Posted: 05 April 2006 at 5:49pm
They arent "bullets." They are "paintballs"

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Posted By: danieljk
Date Posted: 05 April 2006 at 8:27pm
Hence the quotes. Ya know, "" <- those things

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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 06 April 2006 at 10:32am
Originally posted by danieljk danieljk wrote:

Hence the quotes. Ya know, "" <- those things


Owned.


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Posted By: g0dam0ng1n53ct5
Date Posted: 06 April 2006 at 1:03pm
Paintball bullets do exist. Military and police officers use them for training, and they are very realistic, having trajectory somewhat similar to that of a real bullet. They are actually housed in a casing until they are fired. Don't ask me what propellant they use. Most of the time they are conversion kits for a firearm. RAP however, has guns built to specifically fire from a casing (though the casing is simply a rubber tube that holds the ball).

The point is, for a bunch of friends to go out in the woods, have some fun and shoot each other, if you need anything more accurate than a standard gun, buy a flatline. If you need something more accurate than that, it'll be expensive, and more than likely unnecessary.
Remember there are companies like Tippmann and RAP whose job is to improve paintball. Not to mention the fact that military is working on the same thing for riot control. (They even made a paintball filled with powdered peppers to induce vomiting and disorientation... sounds like fun eh?)

Better than an attached doohicky on the back of the paintball would simply be a paintball whose shell is formed in the shape of a traditional bullet. It's been proven over hundreds of years. For that, a rifled barrel would definitely help. With a round ball, you would actually like to maintain some misshapenness, odd as it may sound. The seam itself stabilizes it, much the same way as the indentations of a golfball help it to fly straighter.

www.simunition.com
http://rap4.com/paintball/os/series-markers-rap5-c-21_158_80 .html


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Posted By: g0dam0ng1n53ct5
Date Posted: 06 April 2006 at 1:07pm
Here's a decent definition of simunitions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wax_bullets

Note the price: 3x the cost of live ammo


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Posted By: dead-eye_tippy
Date Posted: 07 April 2006 at 4:40pm

Originally posted by g0dam0ng1n53ct5 g0dam0ng1n53ct5 wrote:

Here's a decent definition of simunitions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wax_bullets

Note the price: 3x the cost of live ammo

Exactly what I was thinking.  It's all great, but even the rubber Reballs are super expensive, MSRP-$150 for 500.  Imagine how much something with rifled technology and flights would cost?  I'm thinking $300 a 500 case.



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Posted By: danieljk
Date Posted: 07 April 2006 at 7:47pm
Thats RIDICULOUS, WHY that cost more makes no sense.  gar gar gar gar

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Posted By: sparky_#2
Date Posted: 12 April 2006 at 8:48pm
Why can't they dimple paintballs like golfballs?
If they put deeper dimples on opposing quarters it would go straight.


Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 16 April 2006 at 1:39am
Originally posted by sparky_#2 sparky_#2 wrote:

Why can't they dimple paintballs like golfballs?
If they put deeper dimples on opposing quarters it would go straight.
because golf balls arn't propelled by air normally.  if there where dimples, the air consistancy might be thrown off.  good thinking though.....

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Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 16 April 2006 at 1:59pm
that wouldn't work so well...

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Posted By: ImminentThreat
Date Posted: 16 April 2006 at 10:57pm
Police and Military "Force on Force" training is done with weapons firing a compressed soap round from a standard cartridge with a substantially reduced load to decrease velocity of the round. I can't see of any way of improving on the design of the painball.

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Posted By: MS Baller
Date Posted: 17 April 2006 at 11:39am
it would work if their was a gun made for it but i dont think it would fit in the gun, or feed right, but it sounds like a good idea


Posted By: darkmaster
Date Posted: 31 May 2006 at 4:21am
the dimples on a golf ball are meant to reduce drag on the ball by turbinating the the stream line thus reducing the trailing side low pressure pocket, and replacing it with a fixed pocket vortex. a fixed pocket vortex will affect less drag on the ball and allow it to retain more energy for a longer period of time. It really wouldnt affect accuracy all that much.

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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 31 May 2006 at 6:34am
Darkmaster,

Why did you feel the need to resurrect this almost 2 month old post?


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Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 31 May 2006 at 3:21pm
People just need to stop posting anything sniper on here it wont work.

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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 31 May 2006 at 4:31pm

As long as paintballing exsists, idea's like the sniper bullet, the flamethrower, the bayonet, the sniper, the artillery cannons, and the shotgun are goin to all keep coming up and keep being shot down.

Its just the cycle of paintball...



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Posted By: Zer0 K@y
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 6:35pm

Originally posted by darkmaster darkmaster wrote:

the dimples on a golf ball are meant to reduce drag on the ball by turbinating the the stream line thus reducing the trailing side low pressure pocket, and replacing it with a fixed pocket vortex. a fixed pocket vortex will affect less drag on the ball and allow it to retain more energy for a longer period of time. It really wouldnt affect accuracy all that much.

 

there is an idea, paintballs with golf ball dimples



Posted By: ridesnowbrdr
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 7:30pm
go fall in a hole.

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Posted By: UV Halo
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 7:45pm
Okay, Here's my two cents:

Fin stabilized ball:  Would help an arced ball (you know the whole 'aim higher' technique) be a little more accurate in terms of shot to shot deviation in the left to right (up/forward and down/back is caused primarily by FPS variations).  No extended range since the fins wouldn't generate significant lift.

Spin-stabilized (aka rifling, or meaning it spins like a bullet) Ball:  No benefit in accuracy for paintball for two primary reasons. One: They have seams, and the orientation of the seam relative to the flight path is different from shot to shot.  Two: They are not perfect spheres therefore, their center of gravity is in a different location from shot to shot.  Ever tried spinning an un-balanced top, or driven on an un-balanced tire?  Same thing...  The object wants to deviate from spinning on it's axis if it is out of balance.  Spin-stablizing does nothing for range.

Backspinning Ball: Generates lift (very well) but, with the seam and center of gravity varying from shot to shot, the accuracy suffers.  Personally, I don't believe anyone who says that at 75ft, a flatline (or a set Apex) is as accurate as a matched 'kit' barrel (i.e. Freak, Evil Pipe, etc) with the same paint, same gun.  I'll believe it when I see a video of a shoot-test.

Dimpled paintballs:  Interesting idea, the size and number of dimples are related to the speed a golf ball moves, and they work.  So, is it practical to make dimples that would work on a paintball?  Can you make a uniformly dimpled paintball given the fact that you require a seam? I dunno.  I did see one brand of paint in a sporting goods store that claimed to have "micro-dimples" but, they were too small for me to see, and I never heard of the brand so, I avoided them.  Time will tell on this one.  But, the concept has been around for ages.  See my topic on "Extended-range, Improved accuracy" paintballs to be posted in a few.

Bullet-shaped paintball: Not practical to manufacture, and the drag effects for having a flat back-end are worse at the speeds paintballs move as compared to the speeds firearm projectiles move.  Additionally, a paintball with a "point" would be more resistant to breakage than one without, unless you did something else, see my topic for that something else.









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