Good Luck DBIB!!!!
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Topic: Good Luck DBIB!!!!
Posted By: Linus
Subject: Good Luck DBIB!!!!
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 8:30pm
Dbibs off to Boot Camp tomorrow.... Good luck bro!
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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 8:30pm
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He's rich. Why is he going into the armed forces? ------------- 
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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 8:32pm
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Good luck to you. ------------- 
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 8:33pm
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Cedric wrote:Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 8:33pm
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They let him in with his tongue peirced?
I hope soap on a rope is manditory military issue gear. Take Care and Good Luck! |
Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 8:34pm
Well, can't beat that logic. -------------
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Posted By: pbdude985
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 9:00pm
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good luck dude ------------- 
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 9:01pm
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Hades, i took it out, its already closed up.
And cedric, you should try doing nothing for a while. Its mind numbing. But i guess i always have been a bit exentric. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors"> 
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Posted By: kuhndog599
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 9:10pm
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Posted By: BooksAndLeaves
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 9:11pm
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you can't jusy buy an army?
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 9:11pm
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Meh. Ile get a purple heart.
No, but i could buy a tank outright no problem. My uncle collects them. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 9:12pm
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DBIB what made you decide to do this. As I posted before goodluck. -------------
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Posted By: WGP guy2
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 9:13pm
He has "connections". |
Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 9:15pm
| good luck man |
Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 9:18pm
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You could have gotten a job like normal people. -------------
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 9:22pm
Cedric, i did get a job. An army job.  I guess ide rather not sit in a cubicle, or sit staring at a computer all day, ide rather work with people and have something to show for it.
Da Hui, im a 6th generation army brat. I scored really really well on the placement test, i speak 3 languages and have a thirst for international affairs and i love studying people. So, military inteligence was the path for me. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 9:24pm
You didn't have to get an office space type job. You could have been a teacher, garbage man, trucker. All those fun jobs. -------------
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 9:25pm
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Why do that when i can join the army? All that stuff will be there after the army, i can do that any time i want. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 9:26pm
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/me issues a smug alert for this thread.
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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 9:27pm
If you join the army, you're supporting war and fighting. Why would you ever do that? -------------
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 9:28pm
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Well, its not so much as im supporting war.
With my MOS, ile be able to do a lot, help a lot and see a lot. That apeals to me. Most likely, my entire career, i might never kill a single person. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 9:29pm
Let him do what he wants. If he wants to do it, let him do it without some 13 y/o punk hounding him. It's not your choice, it's his. I'm 100% sure he thought it out before he enlisted.
Umm.. a lot of people want to fight for the correct cause, not just to fight. I would GLADLY die for my country. You would not. We're totally oppisite. -------------
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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 9:30pm
If you want to help a lot and see a lot, why didn't you just get into some mission work for a church? -------------
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Posted By: youm0nt
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 9:30pm
| we'll miss you.good luck |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 9:34pm
I did a lot of work with my church and when i could i helped out with a childrens center in south carolina. You mentioned missionary work. Im not comfortable with interfearing with a persons faith. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: GThomas
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 9:36pm
| Good luck man, good choice with the Army. |
Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 9:38pm
I'm just saying there were other alternatives to going into the armed forces to support such a crazy war. -------------
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 9:39pm
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Well, i support my country. Right now its going to be more of a stepping stone to other careers. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Bolt3
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 9:42pm
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I'm with Cedric ...
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Posted By: Bolt3
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 9:42pm
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But hey, good luck.
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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 9:43pm
I just hate seeing people going into war. Fighting doesn't solve anything. They teach that in kindergarten. But, apparently, some people think that the more people killed, the safer we are. -------------
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Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 9:43pm
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thats what alot of people do....the army pays for college...just bc you join the forces doesnt mean you support war...you think people want to die? |
Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 9:45pm
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Please tell me Cedric whats crazy about this war?
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Posted By: whack-a-mole
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 9:46pm
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good luck have fun ------------- NASA and the Americans spent millions of dollars and hundreds of hours to develop a pen that would write in space.....The Russians used a pencil. |
Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 9:47pm
How about the fact we're in Iraq. Why the hell are we even there? Because of 'Weapons of Mass Destruction'? Yeah, they're not there. -------------
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Posted By: Bolt3
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 9:50pm
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It's only because of Bush's personal endeavours. Which are going to screw us over in the years to come. ------------- <Removed sig for violation of Clause 4 of the New Sig Rules> |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 9:56pm
Fighting solves a lot of things. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 9:57pm
i agree its messed up, but we still need guys who are willing to to go over there....theres this guy named michaell crook, there was a thread about him a while ago here, he claims that all soldiers are scumbags.....im surprised hes still alive to be honest, i wouldve thought someone wouldve beaten the crap out of him |
Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 9:58pm
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Politics aside, my respect for you(Dbib) has gone up about 5 points. Rather you support this particular idiotfest or not, fighting for your country and doing something that's worth while is definately an admirable thing to do. Good luck man! ps One of my best friends from highschool is doing intel for the Air Force....he seems to like it.... -------------  |
Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 9:58pm
I think I remember that thread. Didn't he have a website making fun of dead soldier and whatnot. I hope he dies a slow and painful death. -------------
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 10:00pm
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That guy can say whatever he wants. If you listen to him speak, he has no knowledge of whats going on, policy or procedure.
We are there because we thought that he had WMDs. Its a lot like shrodingers cat. We saw them in the 80s, he told states near him that he had them as a deterent. But now, they are gone. I think he hid them in another country a while ago. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: HOInfantry
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 10:01pm
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Bootcamp is easy. It's retarded almost. At any rate, it's Army basic training...if the Marine's have the hardest bootcamp (which they do), then Army basic'll be a walk in the park. You'd be surprised at some of the crap that walks across that parade deck.
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 10:02pm
Thanks. Yeah from the people ive talked to intel is a lot of fun. Im really looking forward to it, im hoping to make warrant officer relatively quickly if i decide to go career. I think im going to end up like a lot of people, they enlist saying its going to be a one time thing, then they end up falling in love with the army. Only time will tell i suppose. HOI, i know, thats what ive been hearing, stories like, "Oh youl be doing a run and youl pass this guy and think, man, how did you get here?" And PS, i took care of my E2 today. So ile be an E2 going into basic. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 10:02pm
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don't die... can't wait for all the exciting stories that will for sure come from this... |
Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 10:03pm
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I really doubt that he could have sneaked the wmds out without us noticing....
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Posted By: HOInfantry
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 10:04pm
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Most people get out after 4 years...for me, I'm only staying in because I have absolutely nothing better to do (that's what I'm saying now...when EAS time come rolling, we'll see) ------------- "HO is right..." - Procarbinefreak |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 10:05pm
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I dont really doubt it, the people there are a horse people, they know the terrain, its their ansestral lands, they could have easily hidden things in the desert in other countries. Some borders are under dispute constantly so its up to debate where countries begin and end.
Think of it this way, how many bodies do you think are barried in the las vegas desert? HOI, Whats your ocupational speciality? Just curious, whats your day to day like? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Funky
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 10:06pm
I can't wait go to imaginary bootcamp too! Heh, 'Imaginary Bootcamp 2', sounds like a Paulie Shore movie. ------------- 
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Posted By: mjicmike
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 10:09pm
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Good luck and thank you. I thank you because.... if there weren't anyone to do what you are going to do, then who will ? someone's gotta step up to the plate. ------------- A5 Rfs Dwg triggr Ricochet R5 8"Lapco Bigsht/14"CP Classic Palmers Stab. Lapco uni-mount DOP bullet drop fwd PMI 88/4500 Woods Flatline/14"Lapco Bigsht CMI Thunder pig reg. Remote adj. stk |
Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 10:11pm
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Well, it's possible, it's just that we have probably had 2 or 3 satilltes in geosyncrinus(sp?) orbit over Iraq since the 90s, not to mention the conventional survailance and the ammount of special forces we had in country long before we ever invaded....I dunno, one of the Iraqis that in charge now was on The Daily Show and he said that he talked to one of the guys who drove them over the boarder....but there's a bit of a conflict of interest there so who knows.....I'ma stop with the politics in this thread now, but it seems to me that even if they did find out that he hid the wmds, this war is still pretty fubar.....
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 10:12pm
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Meh, from what the inteligence guys said what im going to be doing is going to have its ups and downs. When its fun, its really fun and whatnot, but when it sucks, it really is terrible.
Sorta like when it rains, it poors. .Ryan, from what i can tell, i think they are long gone. 50 years maybe, we might find them and think good lord so thats where they were. But basicaly, Sadam had his finger in his pocket and said it was a gun. Blindmans bluff, we called his bluff. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 10:18pm
You cannot possibly believe that those 2 wars could have been solved diplomatically... -------------
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Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 10:19pm
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Maybe, hopefully, it'd be nice if we found out that the war was a little more honest than it looks right now.... Anyway, the ammount of fun from military intel is probably dependent on the person. Someone like you or me who is interested in that sort of stuff would probably find it fun, these people who whine over history class cause it's about a bunch of dead people would probably not find it fun.....Plus, if stuff gets much heavier with Iran, you might have a lot of interesting stuff to do...they've got more radios to listen to and troop movements to track than the insurgents we're fighting right now.... Edit: Cedric, a lot is accomplished by fighting. We are a war-like species and like-it-or-not people aren't going to be logical and negociate when they want something. In those situations, where one side or the other wont cooperate, fight does solve a lot. Linus, as far as WWI, it is very debateable rather or not that was one of those situations. It was more like a cracked out "I got your back" situation, set off over stupid, racist, territorial disputes.... vLOLv ------------- |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 10:19pm
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Revolutionary War
Civil War Violence solves a lot. For instance, you want burger king, i want wendys, but if you have a gun. Were going to burger king. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 10:40pm
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"Anybody who clings to the historically untrue – and thoroughly immoral
– doctrine that ‘violence never solves anything’ I would advise to
conjure up the ghosts of Napoleon Bonaparte and the Duke of Wellington
and let them debate it. The ghost of Hitler could referee, and the jury
might well be the Dodo, the Great Auk, and the Passenger Pigeon.
Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any
other factor, and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its
worst. Breeds that forget this basic truth have always paid for it with
their lives and their freedom." -Robert Heinlein 'Nuff said. DBib, best of luck to you man. Keep your mouth shut, eyes and ears open, and we'll catch you on the flip side. ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 10:43pm
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.Ryan, actualy the radio bit. Listening to them. That would be Paintball1. His MOS does that, he was going to intel school for military inteligence in july, we would have been there at the same time. But i dont think hes joining the army anymore. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: PlentifulBalls
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 10:46pm
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So....the deaf girl has no qualms about this?
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 10:48pm
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We arent on speaking terms anymore. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 10:52pm
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So what will you be doin?
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 10:55pm
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Ile be a 97echo, human inteligence collector.
* Assisting in the screening of HUMINT sources and documents * Conducting debriefings and interrogations of HUMINT sources in English and -foreign languages- * Translating written foreign material and captured documents into English * Preparing and editing appropriate intelligence and administrative reports * Utilizing CI/HUMINT reporting and communications equipment Thats a couple things that ile be doing while in the army. As i progress and gain more skills ile be doing different things. It also depends what unit im with. Later on ile be doing things like this. * Reviewing and editing translations of foreign documents and materials for accuracy and completeness * Performing difficult interrogations and translations * Screening, assessing and debriefing (in foreign languages) refugees and defectors * Debriefing U.S. prisoner-of-war returnees and other friendly sources to obtain information for military intelligence * Conducting liaison in foreign language with host nation agencies * Interpreting foreign languages into English ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 10:58pm
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Neato. It'll be cool learning Arabic too.....
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 11:00pm
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Ile have to take a language battery test. But i speak two other languages, but still, i wouldnt mind going to california for 18 months to learn arabic.. I mean come on. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: pb125
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 11:01pm
Calm down, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Why is it that you ALWAYS refer to someones age when you are trying to rip on them, and you are always wrong on the age. We're 15, about 2, maybe 3 years younger than you, big deal. My offer still stands, I'll fight you. ------------- 
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 11:07pm
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I'm usually on Linus's side of an arguement, and he still annoys the hell out of me...
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 11:13pm
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Yeah i told him he was being too combative. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Cheetos3254
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 11:14pm
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 11:15pm
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No, if you join the army, you support your country, the constitution and the army. Nothing about war and fighting.
There are lots of people that are in the army that have never seen any combat at all. Lots of people work behind a desk. Not everyone carries a gun for a living. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 11:41pm
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Maybe I phrased what I was saying wrong. Fighting can't solve anything that words can't. -------------
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 11:46pm
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Revolutionary War.
Civil War. War is a viable option when diplomacy has died. War is a way to enforce policy through physical means. If one country is getting "out of pocket" and we ask and ask and talk and pleade and even beg them to shape up. War is an option. But this isnt as simple as it seems, in some cultures a person looses face if he or she asks for help, such is the way with north korea, so they intimidate the world or hold them hostage in efforst to bring about a "horse trading" position, in wich say a country like north korea or iran, will give up nuclear arms for food aid or money. You mentioned kinder garden. In grade school, you never had an argument that couldnt be solved, to you two just said had it and just had to beat the piss out of eachother to settle it? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 11:48pm
war seems to have worked throughout the history of man...it's a last resort for when one party decides not to talk it over anymore. diplomacy is a novel concept. -------------
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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 11:48pm
In life I've never had an argument that couldn't be solved with words. Granted, not every problem was solved to my advantage, but it was solved nonetheless. -------------
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 11:50pm
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I remember having problems with kids in like, second grade, we didnt really care, but we fought, and that was it. Problem solved.
But the point is, violence solves a lot. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 11:51pm
But you're missing my point.. Violence doesn't solve anything which words cannot. -------------
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 11:55pm
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Of course it does.
To think that words can solve every problem is wishful thinking. Its a noble thought, but in practise, in a situation that requires a physical struggle, it wont get you very far. The civil rights struggles in my opinion was a small war. Granted much was gained through talking, but also, a lot was acheived through physical struggle. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 03 April 2006 at 11:59pm
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Think what you want to think. Kill who you want to kill. -------------
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Posted By: DBibeau855
Date Posted: 04 April 2006 at 12:02am
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If a person is dead set in their aspirations to have a nuclear bomb, this person is going to do it. If the posetion of a nuclear bomb would be a dangerous thing to the world comunity, violence after negotiations is a viable option. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/DBibeau855/?chartstyle=myspacecolors">
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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 04 April 2006 at 12:04am
You don't have to hurt someone to arrest them. -------------
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 04 April 2006 at 7:18am
Get out of your "Everyone should be friendly to everyone" state of mind. It has never and WILL never work out like that. I dont care what your kindergarten teacher tell you, violence DOES solve A LOT of things. And trust me, teachers arent the ones I want to be listening to when the Alamo is surrounded. Negotiations ARE needed, but they DO run out. If people are fanatical on doing something, no amount of words can disuade them. If we go by your theory, we can make a peace deal with terrorist right now. BUT, no matter what they say, even if they agree, they will still try and kill us. Violence is the ONLY viable option to violence. It would be nice to fight fire with water, but fire can only be fought with fire in the way the world is now and has been since the dawn of time. -------------
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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 04 April 2006 at 11:27am
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I find it hard to say that war solves problems when you think of the millions and millions of people that have had their lives utterly destroyed by it. All of you seem to think war solves things because we (the U.S.) always seems to come out on top. If you join the army, you're supporting violence.
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 04 April 2006 at 11:36am
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War, and even terrorism can both be justified in an extreme enough situation. Was does not always solve problems, but there are times when it is the lesser evil. If an ethnic group is being wiped out in a genocide, for isntance, I would suggest that developed nations have a moral duty to step in and stop it through whatever means will assure the safety of that people. Reference the genocide in Rwanda for an instance in which the U.N. dropped the ball and got half a million people killed thgrough refusing to send a couple thousand peacekeepers. The war in Afghanistan can likewise be morally justified as the course of action that resulted in the elast net harm over the long term, both to the people of Afghanistan, and the potential victims of terrorism launched by the fundamentalists that Afghansitan supported and gave succor to. War is never good, but it isn't always bad, in the grand scheme of things.
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Posted By: holysmartone
Date Posted: 04 April 2006 at 1:24pm
"Except for ending slavery, fascism, nazim and communism, war has NEVER solved anything." Most people accept that in certain circumstances war is required, ala WW1/2, and so on. Granted, its not always necessary, and often things can be solved other ways. |
Posted By: Gabster08
Date Posted: 04 April 2006 at 2:53pm
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please tell me you arent going to the army. at least go to the marines or navy. the army people are always the ones to die first. they r not as well disiplined as the marines. but i hope u made the right choice by leaving the greatest city in all the land. lol. WASHINGTON DC. good luck and get those comi bastereds. lol. i mean iraqis. ------------- Setup: Super Blue Nexus Ego Ul barrel 45/45 pmi vlocity |
Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 04 April 2006 at 2:57pm
I love it when ignorant people try to post an opinion on something that's way out of their depth. Tell me son, how much military experience have you got, and what do you know about the trade DBibs going into? Have you read any of the thread so far? ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: Gabster08
Date Posted: 04 April 2006 at 2:58pm
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i read the first page then i decided to skip to the last. lol. maybe i should read it. is he going into special forces or something. i have no experience wat so ever. ------------- Setup: Super Blue Nexus Ego Ul barrel 45/45 pmi vlocity |
Posted By: Gabster08
Date Posted: 04 April 2006 at 3:01pm
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ohh woops never mind. have fun in the army dbib, and i hope u dont have to shoot anyone like u said u might not have to, and thats good. dont forget ur sunblock! ------------- Setup: Super Blue Nexus Ego Ul barrel 45/45 pmi vlocity |
Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 04 April 2006 at 3:07pm
I wouldn't have guessed.
Yes you should, and no he's not
I know. My question was rhetorical. ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 04 April 2006 at 3:24pm
If youre facing a sane, rational, person, then yes, words would do well. But 95% of the time that the US is at war, we ARENT fighting sane, rational, people. It's INsane and Irrational to want to kill innocent people, and being a man of words wont help much in that situation. Dont remember who said it, I think it was Socratese, "The valient profit their country more then the finest, most clever speakers." -------------
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Posted By: PlentifulBalls
Date Posted: 04 April 2006 at 3:59pm
Lemme guess, she never listened to you? -------------
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Posted By: Gabster08
Date Posted: 04 April 2006 at 4:06pm
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no need to get sassy. jeez. ------------- Setup: Super Blue Nexus Ego Ul barrel 45/45 pmi vlocity |
Posted By: holysmartone
Date Posted: 04 April 2006 at 4:10pm
^Then dont be dumb.
I agree with what your saying. I was mearly trying to say that although war should not always be the first choice, it is often necessary. Example. If China decides to bomb us tomorrow, war is the obvious choice. We wouldnt try to talk it out with them. "Oh, its ok that you bombed us, please just dont do it again. Well let this one slide." BUT, if China did something trivial like stop trade with us, war would be a rediculus choice of action. There is a time for words, and a time for war. I think that was a quote by somebody, but Im too lazy to look it up. BTW, good luck Dbib. Have fun in basic. Im going to boot camp 2 months from tomorrow, so were in the same boat. |
Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 04 April 2006 at 4:43pm
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 04 April 2006 at 5:05pm
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Ben, and more so Cedric: The good of the many FAR outweighs the good of the few.
If 2000 soliders must die to keep 20,000 innocents safe, then so be it. We dont know and will never know just how many lives were saved by us being in Afghanistan and Iraq. -------------
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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 04 April 2006 at 5:16pm
I can tell you how many lives we ruined. Way too many. -------------
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Posted By: warman
Date Posted: 04 April 2006 at 5:31pm
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Cedric is pronounced Nancy ------------- N is for nowledge |
Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 04 April 2006 at 6:01pm
A HELLEVA lot more then ones that became worse. You're a selfish kid.. you dont believe that the many outweigh the few, and that scares me that someone can be so closed to the facts. -------------
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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 04 April 2006 at 6:04pm
Yes, I'm a nancy because I do not believe in killing people. Thanks for your input, Bubba. -------------
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Posted By: Gabster08
Date Posted: 04 April 2006 at 6:46pm
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We went to war for oil. plain and simple. thats a good enough reason for me. if we dont get that oil the gas prices will skyrocket. evn more than now. ------------- Setup: Super Blue Nexus Ego Ul barrel 45/45 pmi vlocity |
Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 04 April 2006 at 6:48pm
Why are we paying $2.50/gal if we control the oil? Simple: WE DONT. It's still in Iraqs/OPECS control. Now, unless you have proof otherwise, watch what you say. (Now, I'm not condoning the US oil companies for making record profits.. but look at Sunoco.. Venezualian and still high prices...well that plus their pres hates our guts) -------------
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Posted By: holysmartone
Date Posted: 04 April 2006 at 6:54pm
Wow, you are quite ignorant. |
Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 04 April 2006 at 7:00pm
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This thread is sickening. No one can state their opinion without being attacked by barages of name calling and hateful sayings. Lighten up. It's a discussion, not a fight. -------------
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