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Topic: Minie bullet! new kind of paintball
Posted By: Fiestyboy
Subject: Minie bullet! new kind of paintball
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 8:43am
http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Bunker/1163/weapon.html - Minie ball

They should make speacial paintballs shaped like that and just make a soft top on them so they wouldn't hurt as bad on impact. Tho you would need a speacial hopper or a clip to thse into a gun. But they would be worth it because of range and accuracy.





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Posted By: dmp4892.
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 10:04am
They do. It's called fin stabilized paintbullets that are about 800 dollars per case and only available to police forces.


Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 3:29pm


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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 8:36pm

Words cannot describe how many times this has been proposed. IT WILL NOT EVER WORK!

Every time someone posts this insane idea I swear I get a little bit dumber.

 



Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 15 April 2006 at 1:44am
Originally posted by hybrid-sniper hybrid-sniper wrote:

Words cannot describe how many times this has been proposed. IT WILL NOT EVER WORK!

Every time someone posts this insane idea I swear I get a little bit dumber.

 

bye tomoro yoo wil bee as smart as thee rest uv uss!

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Posted By: DsXz
Date Posted: 15 April 2006 at 3:04pm
lawl

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Posted By: nightfox9
Date Posted: 15 April 2006 at 3:40pm
Originally posted by hybrid-sniper hybrid-sniper wrote:

Words cannot describe how many times this has been proposed. IT WILL NOT EVER WORK!

Every time someone posts this insane idea I swear I get a little bit dumber.

 

 

I know! omg



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Posted By: Sairen Blitz
Date Posted: 15 April 2006 at 5:16pm
Originally posted by DeTrevni DeTrevni wrote:

Originally posted by hybrid-sniper hybrid-sniper wrote:

Words cannot describe how many times this has been proposed. IT WILL NOT EVER WORK!

Every time someone posts this insane idea I swear I get a little bit dumber.

 

bye tomoro yoo wil bee as smart as thee rest uv uss!
lol thats clever.....


Posted By: Stormcharger
Date Posted: 15 April 2006 at 10:09pm

What, again???

Did someone remove the search button?



Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 15 April 2006 at 10:16pm
ya luks liek sumwun did reeemoov da serch bootun


Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 16 April 2006 at 1:35am

what's wrong with it hurting too much?  can't take the pain?



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Posted By: Froggmann
Date Posted: 16 April 2006 at 2:04am

*slow clap*,lets the pure genious of this truly original idea to sink in



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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 16 April 2006 at 2:05am
Originally posted by Froggmann Froggmann wrote:

*slow clap*,lets the pure genious of this truly original idea to sink in

was that sarcasm?

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Posted By: Froggmann
Date Posted: 16 April 2006 at 3:19am

[/QUOTE] was that sarcasm?[/QUOTE]

Where would you get that idea? 



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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 16 April 2006 at 12:12pm
I dont even know how to respond to this...

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Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 16 April 2006 at 1:53pm
yeah, old idea.

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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 16 April 2006 at 2:02pm
It will never work because Rifling only spins the outer shell of the paintball, and not the inner paint fill. Therefore the mass of the projectile is not spinning so it would not be anymore accurate than a round fired thorugh a unrifled barrel.

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Posted By: MoNkeY Hunter
Date Posted: 19 April 2006 at 9:18pm
 What are the things called that the Military uses for training. I Swear that they used some paintball like object or somthing. Any way..... OLD!  


Posted By: kalieb
Date Posted: 22 May 2006 at 5:17pm
they use what is called simunitions. they actually have a sabot round that is filled with paint. The rifleing does work all you have to do is do about a half turn over every 2 inches of barrel. but it can't be cut into the barrel or it will cut your paintball. the way that i did it was made my own barrel. i machined it out and then polished it in a spiral. the roughness of the unpolished area grabs the paintball and makes it spin. there is enough spiraling motion to get the inside of the ball to spin as well. if you want to see how it works take a 20 oz pop bottle fill it with water and put it on a treadmill. it DOES work.


Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 22 May 2006 at 5:31pm
Why did you need to bump this month old trash thread?


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Posted By: ridesnowbrdr
Date Posted: 24 May 2006 at 9:18pm

close



Posted By: ridesnowbrdr
Date Posted: 24 May 2006 at 9:22pm

close



Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 24 May 2006 at 9:23pm

snake>you.



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Posted By: ridesnowbrdr
Date Posted: 24 May 2006 at 9:29pm

close



Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 24 May 2006 at 10:05pm

Next time this is posted... somone's getten shot in the toodles...



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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 24 May 2006 at 10:10pm
Originally posted by __sneaky__ __sneaky__ wrote:

Next time this is posted... somone's getten shot in the toodles...

grandma?

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Posted By: BigRob
Date Posted: 10 June 2006 at 4:24pm

Originally posted by Snake6 Snake6 wrote:

It will never work because Rifling only spins the outer shell of the paintball, and not the inner paint fill. Therefore the mass of the projectile is not spinning so it would not be anymore accurate than a round fired thorugh a unrifled barrel.

 

this is not true.  there is no empty air in a paintball, and the liquid has a very thick consitency, so the liquid will spin very easily.  you can demonstrate this by putting a water bottle on a treadmill, the water will spin.  it just takes a second to catch up to the bottle itself, and may in ideal conditions spin ever so slightly slower than the bottle itself, causing drag.

paint however is thick and viscous so it would spin easier and closer to the velocity of the shell itself.  this is why apex barrels and flatline barrels work.  they SPIN the paintball.  and the paint inside. 

now the idea of rifling would work with any shape other than spherical.  it would spin a spherical ball obviously, but the spin would cause the ball to curve with the spin, which is an undesireable effect. 

 imagine how the flatline works, backspinning the ball to create a curve upwards as the ball drags itself through the air.  now imagine spinning as a rifled barrel would spin it.  with an oblong ball it would stabilize the ball and shoot straighter, but with a round ball and the variances in barrel bore and paintball size due to environmental conditions, you could not spin in precisely enough to create this efect.  the ball would wobble off in an odd direction.

i hope this stops the argument of "paint wont spin" because as the flatline and apex show quite clearly, oh yes it does.



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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 10 June 2006 at 5:16pm
Originally posted by BigRob BigRob wrote:

Originally posted by Snake6 Snake6 wrote:

It will never work because Rifling only spins the outer shell of the paintball, and not the inner paint fill. Therefore the mass of the projectile is not spinning so it would not be anymore accurate than a round fired thorugh a unrifled barrel.

 

this is not true.  there is no empty air in a paintball, and the liquid has a very thick consitency, so the liquid will spin very easily.  you can demonstrate this by putting a water bottle on a treadmill, the water will spin.  it just takes a second to catch up to the bottle itself, and may in ideal conditions spin ever so slightly slower than the bottle itself, causing drag.

paint however is thick and viscous so it would spin easier and closer to the velocity of the shell itself.  this is why apex barrels and flatline barrels work.  they SPIN the paintball.  and the paint inside. 

now the idea of rifling would work with any shape other than spherical.  it would spin a spherical ball obviously, but the spin would cause the ball to curve with the spin, which is an undesireable effect. 

 imagine how the flatline works, backspinning the ball to create a curve upwards as the ball drags itself through the air.  now imagine spinning as a rifled barrel would spin it.  with an oblong ball it would stabilize the ball and shoot straighter, but with a round ball and the variances in barrel bore and paintball size due to environmental conditions, you could not spin in precisely enough to create this efect.  the ball would wobble off in an odd direction.

i hope this stops the argument of "paint wont spin" because as the flatline and apex show quite clearly, oh yes it does.



No, the type of paint in paintballs is NOT the same type of paint you buy at the store.  Quick, go to your gearbag, and grab a paintball out of one of your pods.  Now squeeze it open and look at the paint.  It is much more fluid than regular paint. 

Flatlines and the Apex barrel systems operate by creating drag and spin on the ball. A rough spot in the barrel grabs the ball and spins it in an unnatural direct, these results are most effective RIGHT AFTER the ball leaves the barrel, because a paintball cannot sustain an effective spin. This is NOT how rifling works.  Rifling spins the bullet in a conical motion straight out of the barrel in order to allow it to slice through the air and REDUCE RESISTANCE, not give it a spin to make it shoot farther. Thrust - (Resistance + Weight) = Flight.  Spinning a paintball does not reduce the resistance it meets in the wind, therefore rifling does not increase it's distance.  Even if you made a "mini-ball" shaped projectile, the paint would shift to the botom half of which ever side was currently closest to the ground, throwing off all momentum, and as a result acutally LESSENING you distance.   Don't question me on this either, I know what I'm talking about.

kthxbye.


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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 10 June 2006 at 11:13pm
this thread still sucks

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Posted By: Farcry0092
Date Posted: 12 June 2006 at 7:24pm
Originally posted by Froggmann Froggmann wrote:

was that sarcasm?[/QUOTE]

Where would you get that idea? 

[/QUOTE]

its hilarious when you act sarcastically. its like the kermit in your sig is talking and acting sarcastically. lol. plus this tpic SUx



Posted By: blackdog144
Date Posted: 15 June 2006 at 5:09pm
my dad traines with paint bullets at work...hes a cop, he showed me a welt and it looked horrible...

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Posted By: ridesnowbrdr
Date Posted: 18 June 2006 at 12:37am
Originally posted by Snake6 Snake6 wrote:

Why did you need to bump this month old trash thread?


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Posted By: fireman9302
Date Posted: 24 June 2006 at 5:13am
Originally posted by __sneaky__ __sneaky__ wrote:

Next time this is posted... somone's getten shot in the toodles...

 

I just wanted everyone to know that you guys are the most immature and stupid people I have ever been around.  I think all you guys are geeks and have no life and probally have never been laid before. 

 

This being said, I am still going to play paintball with my adult friends but I will continue to stay away from this crap for quite some time.

 

See Ya Later, Geeks, Dwebes and Nerds



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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 24 June 2006 at 4:25pm
Originally posted by fireman9302 fireman9302 wrote:

Originally posted by __sneaky__ __sneaky__ wrote:

Next time this is posted... somone's getten shot in the toodles...

 

I just wanted everyone to know that you guys are the most immature and stupid people I have ever been around.  I think all you guys are geeks and have no life and probally have never been laid before. 

 

This being said, I am still going to play paintball with my adult friends but I will continue to stay away from this crap for quite some time.

 

See Ya Later, Geeks, Dwebes and Nerds

Have fun with that.

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Posted By: Oedipus
Date Posted: 24 June 2006 at 4:26pm
Originally posted by __sneaky__ __sneaky__ wrote:

Originally posted by fireman9302 fireman9302 wrote:

Originally posted by __sneaky__ __sneaky__ wrote:

Next time this is posted... somone's getten shot in the toodles...

 

I just wanted everyone to know that you guys are the most immature and stupid people I have ever been around.  I think all you guys are geeks and have no life and probally have never been laid before. 

 

This being said, I am still going to play paintball with my adult friends but I will continue to stay away from this crap for quite some time.

 

See Ya Later, Geeks, Dwebes and Nerds

Have fun with that.

Stop being an idiot.



Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 25 June 2006 at 7:58pm
Originally posted by fireman9302 fireman9302 wrote:

Originally posted by __sneaky__ __sneaky__ wrote:

Next time this is posted... somone's getten shot in the toodles...

 

I just wanted everyone to know that you guys are the most immature and stupid people I have ever been around.  I think all you guys are geeks and have no life and probally have never been laid before. 

 

This being said, I am still going to play paintball with my adult friends but I will continue to stay away from this crap for quite some time.

 

See Ya Later, Geeks, Dwebes and Nerds

i'm 15.  i havn't been "laid" by my choice.... 

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Posted By: an94
Date Posted: 25 June 2006 at 9:57pm
Or you could just buy an Armsom stealth barrel. they are rifled all the way though but at a very slow twist. My buddy has one and it will keep up with a flatline but without the hassle.

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Posted By: Oedipus
Date Posted: 25 June 2006 at 10:06pm
Can you please explain how rifling increases range?


Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 26 June 2006 at 9:49am
It doesn't. 

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Posted By: the_blade
Date Posted: 03 July 2006 at 12:46am
Man o man how I love how people cant except simple physics. A paintball is not a solid object. the paint on the inside at a slower rate of speed then the shell it gives the paintball the "wobble" efect. A simple way too see this is you take a cup of water and put a ice cube or two in there now spin the cup sure the ice will move but not at all at the same speed that the cup is spinning at.

And I cant believe you just said an armson stealth will keep up with a flatline. That is a LOLer. The flat line works but forcing high pressure air under the paintball and low pressure air on top causing a lift like an air plane wing. that is why when you see a paintballfired out of a flatline come whizzing past your head it looks like its almost floating on a cloud of air.


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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 03 July 2006 at 12:56am

...

i just ate a sammich.



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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 03 July 2006 at 3:25am
^^^best thing to come out of this thread

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