Red Rider= Lever action Paintball gun.
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Topic: Red Rider= Lever action Paintball gun.
Posted By: MoNkeY Hunter
Subject: Red Rider= Lever action Paintball gun.
Date Posted: 18 April 2006 at 7:26pm
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Pros: Never ever have to buy air, could be very consitent run on pressurized air, and it would just look ganster. Cons: Very slow rate of fire and ???s about how much punch the red rider air pump has..... could it projest a Paintball?????? Thats all I could come up with. Please don't Flame the heck out of me. Any Thoughts on the Idea. Input a preciated. |
Wouldn't it be cool if a "BB gun" company made a Paintball gun. Now I'm talking basicaly a Red rider with larger, removeable barrel and reinforced parts or parts made some sort of metal. Now there would be problems with it such as controling Velocity and ROF. Also what kind of hopper would it take if any? But heck! If I could get my hands on one of thos, I'd quite speedball and play stricly rec ball.
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Posted By: Ken Majors
Date Posted: 18 April 2006 at 9:28pm
You'll shoot your eye out kid! 
Make it tube fed with spring pressure. Magazine on top of the barrel. Not sure you will be able to generate enough pressure to fire 300fps though. ------------- RLTW |
Posted By: Cheetos3254
Date Posted: 18 April 2006 at 9:34pm
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Ken Majors wrote:Posted By: Ashdawg
Date Posted: 18 April 2006 at 9:46pm
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I'd buy one for the heck of it.
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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 18 April 2006 at 10:56pm
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sounds interesting. good concept actually.... ------------- X |
Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 18 April 2006 at 11:47pm
A paintball is a much larger projectile, requiring a larger amount of air to launch. ------------- 
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Posted By: ardyandkari
Date Posted: 19 April 2006 at 6:21am
the problem that i can see with this is a lot of bb guns you can pump over and over, thus achieving a greater velocity..........i dont want to get hit with a ball going 400 fps please 
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Posted By: Wubadoo
Date Posted: 19 April 2006 at 1:55pm
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plausable concept. you could probably get a hold of some drawings of real lever action rifles and add in a plunger to compress the air needed for firing, but i could be kinda hard to generate enough pressure in just one pump (which is the only way it would seem practical to do this)
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Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 19 April 2006 at 3:44pm
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hmm. You'd need some huge intricate pump design to make it stockpile enough pressure in a single pump.
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Posted By: ardyandkari
Date Posted: 19 April 2006 at 4:35pm
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ill refer back to my previous post and ask "what happens if some joker decides to pump ten or twenty times???" ------------- If you define cowardice as running away at the first sign of danger, screaming and tripping and begging for mercy, then yes, Mr. Brave man, I guess I'm a coward. |
Posted By: bigjrus
Date Posted: 19 April 2006 at 4:41pm
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From what I have remembered owning a Red-Ryder BB gun, it was spring loaded but after you pumped it once you could not pump it again. It would either be a very simple or extremely difficult to make some sort of peice to keep from "multi" pumping. All around a good idea of sorts, great for scenario play like civil war or something.
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Posted By: Ken Majors
Date Posted: 19 April 2006 at 4:54pm
This^^^ is what I was getting at.....<sigh>. This is a plausible idea. Not sure about it being a single pump. Probably need to be a multiple pump, unless you increase the size of the piston and air chamber. ------------- RLTW |
Posted By: bigjrus
Date Posted: 19 April 2006 at 4:59pm
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Im sure if one of us looks hard enough or is smart enough with math and equations there would be a plausible equation for the size of the piston and chamber to amount of pressure needed to reach velocity. or find a spring big enough for it lol. -------------   
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Posted By: MoNkeY Hunter
Date Posted: 19 April 2006 at 9:05pm
Ok Rd rider BB gun=365fps. Paintballs have a bigger mass then a bb so I'm thinking some were around 240-260fps. Kinda scard to saw off Barrel and take the whole thing apart. Also, If you could do this, You could make one out of a Pellet Gun. At Ten pumps BB fps reaches around 650fps. That wiuld suck and I don't think it would be that accurate, this is a major Idea and I'm so going to try it out.
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Posted By: kevinthegreat
Date Posted: 19 April 2006 at 9:16pm
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good luck, I've thought about this but never tried it. hope you can get it to work. if you do, you could definitely sell them on ebay ------------- Tippmann A-5 Polished internals 4.2 inch rifled barrel Destroyed OD paintjob Love |
Posted By: bigjrus
Date Posted: 19 April 2006 at 11:19pm
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I have been thinking about it, the barrel consist of a tube of steel with plastic on the inside for the bb( if i remember my old one), I was thinking it might be just the right size for the paintball without the plastic on the inside. Hmmm maybe some blueprinting and a good machinist and this could be a wise idea. ( i want .5% if this goes big lol jp) -------------
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Posted By: Ken Majors
Date Posted: 20 April 2006 at 2:28am
Hate to be a prick but you are going to have to show your calculations for me to buy that. The idea is valid, and quite possibly something that may sell. It will require someone to build one of these beasts. I would buy one. I have been wanting a pump action shotgun for years now. Sceptre teased me...then cancelled the project. This would even be cooler than a pump gun. No 12 grams needed. But even they were needed I would still buy one. Cool factor is big in the scenario world. Not sure what happened to Scepter and the pump shotgun looking pump gun. I would have given a cool $1000 for one of those....but they don't exist. And probably never will. ------------- RLTW |
Posted By: plasoccri
Date Posted: 20 April 2006 at 2:50am
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this probably wouldn't be to hard to do. Useing smaller caliber paint balls, and make it so it runs off one of those 12g CO2 canisters, lever would simply load the Ball and reset the bolt. Ultimately its just a pump action. Forget about modifying a bigger pressure chamber and all. Just need to put in CO2, and with plastic stocks, their is a lot of room. Edit - I think their is a CO2 lever action BB gun out their. I know I've seen CO2 powered BB rifles, just don't know if it was lever action or not. ------------- You can go far with a smile. You can go a lot farther with a smile and a gun. 
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Posted By: Dye Playa
Date Posted: 20 April 2006 at 4:42pm
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red riders are crappp. i dont think they even shoot 200 fps. the better bb guns do for sure though, i think a couple go like 1000+ ------------- 
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Posted By: bigjrus
Date Posted: 21 April 2006 at 1:50am
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Ok quick questing would you rather be hit at 200 fps or 1000+ fps? hmmm? Ok then, the ones that reach such a high felosity need more than one pump, I think he is trying to go with one that only needs one and not several. -------------
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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 21 April 2006 at 9:25pm
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Cant you use 6mm BBs? The paint filled ones?
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Posted By: Simma Down!!
Date Posted: 22 April 2006 at 10:18am
| The extra pumps could be stopped by having a relief valve when the pressure exceeds a certain limit. To the point where any additional pumps would be useless. |
Posted By: bigjrus
Date Posted: 23 April 2006 at 1:51am
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/\/\/\ Didnt think about that, would be an easy way of solving the problem tho, then again I dont know why I keep posting on here lol, Im not the one trying to make it, owell -------------
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Posted By: lilsully4
Date Posted: 15 May 2006 at 6:51pm
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to big beleive me iv tried, i'v got a crossmann something or another and can pump it up to 20 times, makes a boom like a 20 gadge, but back to the topic, yeah to big ------------- 
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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 15 May 2006 at 10:54pm
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Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 16 May 2006 at 3:29pm
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been done... the K series from sheridan is a decendant of their BB guns. a nice KP2 will run about $350-$450 and another $1,100 for the lever action conversion.
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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 17 May 2006 at 2:49pm
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My dad has a red ryder (Things acient, instead of using O-rings like paintball it uses leather seals which are busted and we cant fix Anyway, I cant remember what size BB it uses, but BB guns dont fire airsoft paintballs or any of that kind..
BUt it would be an awesome idea ------------- 
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)Posted By: moondo
Date Posted: 17 May 2006 at 7:13pm
| you can get 6mm paintballs. I usea rhem in my airsoft gun it mite work in a bb gun as well. the 6mm paintballs are way more fun than the stupid plastic bbs that you normally shot in airsoft guns |
Posted By: shmavistime
Date Posted: 19 May 2006 at 10:55pm
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Just to let everyone know, there already is a lever action paintball gun, but you have to be "in the circle", if you dont know if your "in the circle" than that means your probably not in it.
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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 20 May 2006 at 11:27am
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Ok, Im not in "The Circle". Im not a real oldie in paintball either. But just show me the light of the circle and itroduce me to this lever action paintball marker -------------
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Posted By: shmavistime
Date Posted: 20 May 2006 at 5:17pm
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Well in order to get one you have to kind of know the guy, or atleast be very friendly, but you have to be completly serious if you want to get one. The current running price is I think $230 for a conversion of a KP series sheridan. That conversion includes the stock and the lever assembly. The kp itself wil run you around $375, in fair condition. So at the very least your looking at $600. This is a good condition KP2:  This is a lever action kp2 (kL), with a whole load of palmer goodies like performance tune, nickle plating, muzzle break,spring feed, speed changer and new feed plugs.  ------------- 41(no joke) guns and counting the .50 cal warrior
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