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Topic: grenade launcher
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Subject: grenade launcher
Date Posted: 24 April 2006 at 9:16pm
I am looking into making a grenade launcher for my gun out of pipe that would fire tippmann squadbusters. does anyone have decent plans to make one or can someone draw me one. ps. dont flame for this i allready tried google.

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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 24 April 2006 at 9:25pm
Take out that huge sig, its breaking the rules. I refuse to help anyone that wont follow the rules of the forum.


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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 24 April 2006 at 9:36pm

oh my god you anwsered every one of my questions youre amazing....really couldnt u of pmed me.

somebody takes it a little too serioulsy.



Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 24 April 2006 at 9:53pm
I could have......but I prefer a public confrontation.


Have fun searching google till you find your plans.


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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 24 April 2006 at 10:26pm

Originally posted by You Wont See Me You Wont See Me wrote:

I could have......but I prefer a public confrontation.


Have fun searching google till you find your plans.

MUHAHAHA (You Wont See Me laughs manically) now that I have demoralized him with a signature change I can destroy him with my evil google referral of doom!

Carlthesniper: Now i must fight back with my identity steal attack before he can flame me with his evil typing fingers of doom. MUHAHAHAHA (he laughs slightly more manically)



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Posted By: ak_storm
Date Posted: 24 April 2006 at 10:50pm
carry a potato launcher..but insted of a potato use a grenade...i think that would work


Posted By: tigman250
Date Posted: 24 April 2006 at 10:54pm
Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

Originally posted by You Wont See Me You Wont See Me wrote:

I could have......but I prefer a public confrontation.


Have fun searching google till you find your plans.

MUHAHAHA (you wont see me laughs manically) now that i have demoralized him with a signature change i can destroy him with my evil google referral of doom!

Carlthesniper: Now i must fight back with my identity steal attack before he can flame me with his evil typing fingers of doom. MUHAHAHAHA (he laughs slightly more manically)

you forgot to capitilize in your reply it's You Won't See Me, if you don't have any luck with Google you may want to try Yahoo i hear they have a good search option.

good luck man



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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 24 April 2006 at 11:04pm
Originally posted by tigman250 tigman250 wrote:

Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

Originally posted by You Wont See Me You Wont See Me wrote:

I could have......but I prefer a public confrontation.


Have fun searching google till you find your plans.

MUHAHAHA (you wont see me laughs manically) now that i have demoralized him with a signature change i can destroy him with my evil google referral of doom!

Carlthesniper: Now i must fight back with my identity steal attack before he can flame me with his evil typing fingers of doom. MUHAHAHAHA (he laughs slightly more manically)

you forgot to capitilize in your reply it's You Won't See Me, if you don't have any luck with Google you may want to try Yahoo i hear they have a good search option.

good luck man

But what do you mean? I never forgot to catitalize... I will try yahoo but I think they are pretty much same thing. oh and i dont really want a potato gun looking for more of a under the gun kinda thing. ive seen them done but never figured out how they worked.

 



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Posted By: the_skdster
Date Posted: 25 April 2006 at 1:11am
Oh god the uslessreplies. including this one.
Use a potato launcher as mentioned. but make it better.

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Posted By: ak_storm
Date Posted: 25 April 2006 at 3:37am
potato cannons not that hard to build...my 15yr old brother built one and its sick.

Check this out
http://www.doropaintball.com/AB1038101Equick/shopdisplaypr oducts.asp?id=470&cat=Grenade+Launchers

to get a start on how to design one of these things....think of them as a paintball gun on steriods


Posted By: Halo
Date Posted: 25 April 2006 at 4:20am
Carl you have a PM. May be what your looking for.

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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 25 April 2006 at 3:30pm
thanks everyone umm... does anyone know if these are legal in Canada?

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Posted By: Hide and Sneak
Date Posted: 25 April 2006 at 3:51pm
What you are lookng for is the scepter 4000 grenade launcher system.  This beast is terrifying! I have to take mine off whenever I play unless I want to be swarmed by the other team trying to take me out before I get a chance to use it!  Very sweet, but it takes a bit of practice at first, and is a bit of an air hog (especially on the A5).  As well, I'm having trouble finding anyone who carries the refill kits lately, but if you are willing to deal with these minor nuisances for a truly field-dominating grenade launcher, this is what you want! If this is out of your budget, I would suggest using pcv pipe, and a simple valve system to make a small potato launcher.  But definately use a seperate air supply from your marker, as these home-made jobs can go brutally wrong and leave you out of air staring stupidly a the bunker you just jumped out and yelled HAH! at... hope this helps, and that you can avoid my mistake (and subsequent welts and shaming) if you try the diy approach. 


Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 25 April 2006 at 4:14pm
Oh no, you stole my sig and avatar.

 Congrats. I'm flattered you wish to be me.

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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 25 April 2006 at 4:29pm

ok here is my idea for a launcher super simple but it works. basically the air would go from a co2 tank, thru a metal pipe (metal for safety) then when i want to launch it, i will open the valve the co2 will come out really fast and launch the squadbuster out. Will this work or do i need a hammer system?

- really not sure because on the internet they show pics and how to use and make but not how one works. also not sure about the valve. will any valve do or do i need one specifically made for paintball. (it obviously has to be airtight.

safety question now: will the co2 come out evenly or will all the air in the tank come out at once into the metal tube, overfilling the metal tube and possibly blowing my arm off? if your anwser is the second one; how do paintball guns controll this?

here is a pic of my idea:



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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 25 April 2006 at 9:31pm
ooh yeah and can anyone tell me the width of a squadbuster

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Posted By: ak_storm
Date Posted: 26 April 2006 at 4:55am
i cant tell you the width of a squadbuster...but nice drawing tho. I would hook up a butterfly valve inbetween the barrel and co2 chamber. The valve would have to hooked to  electric soleniod powered by a 9v and you would have sick cannon.


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Date Posted: 26 April 2006 at 12:40pm

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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 26 April 2006 at 3:28pm

i redid my design (no pics) basically the difference is the co2 tank would be removed after charging the fill chamber. that means one shot per game but it will be more reliable and safer. this would require an extra valve at the end. what is a good one for that?

thanks for the butterfly valve id ea i will use them if they dont cost too much. how much do you think?

why do you need the electric part?



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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 26 April 2006 at 4:21pm
Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

ooh yeah and can anyone tell me the width of a squadbuster
1.8"

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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 26 April 2006 at 4:37pm

sorry i meant the length: across here

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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 26 April 2006 at 8:21pm

so i need to know:

1)the length of a squadbuster,

2)The average cost of a butterfly valve

3)and the average cost of a sprinkler valve with a soleniod

4) What length of pvc pipe barrel should i have for an under the gun launcher

 



Posted By: seal160
Date Posted: 27 April 2006 at 5:32pm
I am working on a under gun high tension spring m203.. donno how it will work but you never know it just may work..

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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 27 April 2006 at 5:48pm
I was being sarcastic.

I Have a squad buster sitting in my paintball bag. Gimme 5 minutes and I'll let you know the dimensions.


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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 27 April 2006 at 5:53pm
Its approx 3.5". Hard to get it exactly because of the way it curves.


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Posted By: estcstpnt
Date Posted: 27 April 2006 at 6:24pm

Originally posted by ak_storm ak_storm wrote:

carry a potato launcher..but insted of a potato use a grenade...i think that would work

that idea but duct tape it on you gun.

And good job You Wont See Me, EXACTLY 5 minutes.



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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 27 April 2006 at 7:52pm

Originally posted by You Wont See Me You Wont See Me wrote:

Its approx 3.5". Hard to get it exactly because of the way it curves.

thanks for that hah exactly 5 mins.

so what do you think about a 4" barrel



Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 27 April 2006 at 7:54pm

Originally posted by seal160 seal160 wrote:

I am working on a under gun high tension spring m203.. donno how it will work but you never know it just may work..

wow that has to be a pretty high tension spring. i dunno you could get a few small cartarages along with the spring and hide them.



Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 27 April 2006 at 9:32pm
Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

Originally posted by You Wont See Me You Wont See Me wrote:

Its approx 3.5". Hard to get it exactly because of the way it curves.

thanks for that hah exactly 5 mins.

so what do you think about a 4" barrel

Its gonna take alot of trial and error to find the right size. Too big and you waste air and thus have less distance, too small and it wont go out.

When I say 5 minutes, I mean 5 minutes.


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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 27 April 2006 at 9:37pm

wow very punctual---hah

aww i hate trial and error oh well i dont think pvc costs that much. so how about a 3.8" pvc barrel to start?



Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 27 April 2006 at 10:13pm
Should work out fine.

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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 27 April 2006 at 11:33pm
thanks now... how long?

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Posted By: Halo
Date Posted: 28 April 2006 at 3:47am
Okay a few things:

You have to check the pressure ratings on the parts you intend to use. Hooking a co2 tank into a cannon directly may be a bad ideal. 850 psi into a launcher with a valve that is rated for 600 psi (if you are using a brass ball valve) means you are 250 psi over the rated limit. Check the pressure ratings for the pipe you use for the pressure chamber and the ball valve, and fittings you use. Dont go over that pressure. I have never heard of anyone blowing this type of launcher up, but there is always a first time. Bolwing a hand off is not a fun day at the field. I use only black steal rated for pressurezed gas applications, and recommend that that be what you use. Galvanized pipe isnt pressure rated for gas.

Second, most electronic selonoid valves only go up to 125 psi or so. So a regular co2 tank will kill the seals pretty quick. If you do go that route, you need a regulator and pop off valve. You can get the pop off valve at some hardware stores or order it from Spudtech.com.



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Posted By: Halo
Date Posted: 28 April 2006 at 3:57am
Prices:   Sprinkler valve   $15 at lowes, take 21 volts to open the valve, so three 9 volts does teh trick nicely.   I normally use two switches. One toggle to arm the system, then either a rocker of push button to fire it (Radio Shack). Ball valve (brass-pressure rated at 600psi) was around $12 I think, but I cant remember. Bought more sprinkler valves then ball valves.

As far as the Sqaud Buster, take off the cap and net, and straighten it out. Should fit in a 2 inch pvc barrel. May need some wadding in there before you toss the nad in there. Paper towels work for me. Barrel length, nothing over 2.5 to 3 foot considering it suppose to be an under barrel mounted launcher. That is really adding a ton of weight to the marker. You really dont want no 3 or 4 inch diameter barrel. Trust me, it is going to be way to heavy with the 2 inch.



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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 28 April 2006 at 3:30pm

thanks for help, if i get a regulator can i decide how much pressure to let through? how much is one?

second, if i don't go with the regulator what is another good valve?



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Posted By: Halo
Date Posted: 29 April 2006 at 1:44am
You can normally find a used AutoCocker Reg or something like that from the speedy ballers at your local field for cheap. And they are adjustable.

If I was going to hook a 20oz into it, the bare minimum I would use it a 600 psi brass ball valve, unless I got the reg. Most likely it will hold that pressure, as most thing will hold more pressure than they are rated for. I have never heard of a non regulated one blowing, but I just have bad luck and I would be the first. That is why I go with the 12 grams. It is really old technology, but it is easy and fairly safe.

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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 29 April 2006 at 9:50pm
do you think the 12 gram is enough to propel a grenade at that range?

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Posted By: Halo
Date Posted: 30 April 2006 at 3:12am
Well, it will launch a Nerf Pocket Vortex round about 75 to 100 yards. So it should. It's not like you are trying to send the grenade as far anyway.

I use to launch paintball rounds, bathroom cups full of about 15 to 20 paintballs, and they would get a fairly good distance. Say 25- 30 yards. That's pure guestamation on my part, I never really thought of the distance before. I was gonna blast a Squad Buster one day, but didnt. I decided to see how many times it took me throwing it to get it to bust. We use the wet willie grenades now. They actually work when you throw them.

Funny story, I played one entire scenario with the sole purpose of taking out a guy I play ball with at my home field. I bought a Zues off him and wanted to shoot him with it. Finally, three minutes to the last whistle, and he attacks my base single handed. Demos a building near me and starts poping shots. I turn around and has my launcher in my hand, and fire a single shot, with 20 rounds in it. He manages to dance through a cloud of paint, and not get hit. Dunks down behind the building he demoed and gets ready to demo the one next to it. I move in with the pistol, and he steps around the corner...eleminated, by someone that came around the other corner. That was a year ago, and I still havent got to shoot him.

Okay sorry for the side track story.

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Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 30 April 2006 at 9:48pm
good story though...

Anwyays, i'd rethink your plan to use a different brand of grenade.


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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 30 April 2006 at 10:47pm
yes good story. nah the place i go paintballing (the most) only allows paint and grenades bought there.

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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 01 May 2006 at 12:19am
oh and do you think it wil be able to chrono under 280? My field allows them as long as they chrono under 280 and only use gas.

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Posted By: Halo
Date Posted: 01 May 2006 at 6:43am
It should, but alot of that depends on the size of your pressure chamber and length of the barrel. I ran six inch and eight inch pressure chambers. 1 inch diameter. And the eight inch shoots harder. It lets more co2 out of the 12 gram to expand. So it is at a lower pressure, but at a higher volume.

And I love Tippmann, but thier Squad Busters suck big time. They dont compare to the Wet Willies. My field sales both.    If Tippmann switched the rubber plugs for ball bearings like many of the other grenades use, then they would work perfectly. And they would be the absolute best grenade out there. May cost a bit more to produce, but they would make up for it in sales.

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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 01 May 2006 at 3:26pm
ok thanks. i guess if i get a regulator that wil help chrono right? yes but still my field only sells them.

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Posted By: massproduce
Date Posted: 11 May 2006 at 4:07am
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Posted By: Halo
Date Posted: 11 May 2006 at 5:05am
Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

ok thanks. i guess if i get a regulator that wil help chrono right? yes but still my field only sells them.


Well, the Reg is only recesary depending on what type of launcher you are gonna build. The 12 gram, it really isnt required. That launcher will shoot at pretty much the same velocity every time, depending on what the outside temp is. The hotter it is outside the harder it will shoot. It isnt gonna be alot of difference between a 75 degree day and an 80 degree day.

Cold work teh same way, but in opposite. The more shots you do, the colder the pressure chamber becomes and you start getting shoot down. But unless you are just doign continuos firing, it isnt a major concern.



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Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 11 May 2006 at 7:41am
You won't be able to use a co2 tank hooked up directly unless all of your components (including the pipe) are rated to over 1000psi.

I have some awesome plans, but you can't have them *sticks tongue out*  i haven't made it yet.  I'll show you all when it's done so you can be jelouse.

Yes 1 12gram will be strong enough.

What do you want from the launcher, concentrate on what you want and you'll figure out aplan to make it happen.  For example, I wanted mine to be able to fire more than one shots (so 12oz co2 for fuel) I wanted to use a sprinkler valve (so double regulation to 100psi) and I  wanted it to be quick to reload (breach loading).

After a few minutes of thinking of what you want i'm sure you'll figure it out with some thought.


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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 11 May 2006 at 3:46pm

thanks for help/imput. hmm intresting more than one shots per game. though if i were to hook a normal tank up to a regulator i may be able to do that.

bty raven what city do u live in (kinda random i know)



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Posted By: massproduce
Date Posted: 11 May 2006 at 4:32pm
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Posted By: Halo
Date Posted: 12 May 2006 at 5:34am
Ravenguard, remember the pop off valve. You can get them on spudtech.com. I think his are rated for 125 psi, which would be perfect for what your building. It is nice to have, incase you regulator sticks open. I know, I am parinoid.


massproduce,   That would work, probally pretty well. Cost $99, and that is more than I want to spend. But for someone who doesnt want the hassel to build thier own, and doesnt mind the extra expence, it would be perfect. Heck, load some ballons up with a paint mixture, and splatter the heck out of people.

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