ion only use nitrogen?
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Topic: ion only use nitrogen?
Posted By: ryrygbpackers77
Subject: ion only use nitrogen?
Date Posted: 07 May 2006 at 6:47pm
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i heard the ion can only use nitrogen gas and not co2, is this true because i want one |
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Posted By: nightfox9
Date Posted: 07 May 2006 at 6:49pm
IDK but that's a good question I would like to know the answer to this also. ------------- 
-Tippmann 98 Custom -20" J&J Ceramic Barrel -Rocket Cock 2 -32 Degrees Remote Coil -20oz Pure Energy Tank |
Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 07 May 2006 at 6:51pm
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yes..co2 will kill the ion.. ------------- 
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Posted By: God
Date Posted: 07 May 2006 at 6:55pm
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Propellant : CO2 or Compressed Air (compressed air highly recommended) |
Posted By: dark assassin
Date Posted: 07 May 2006 at 6:57pm
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so if i happened to connect a Co2 tank to my friends ion....is it dead now???? ------------- It's like a new pair o underwear, at first it's constrictive, but then it becomes a part of you." -Garth |
Posted By: ryrygbpackers77
Date Posted: 07 May 2006 at 6:58pm
| ok so can i use co2 or not? |
Posted By: ryrygbpackers77
Date Posted: 07 May 2006 at 7:01pm
| and if i do will it damage it? |
Posted By: Coco pops
Date Posted: 07 May 2006 at 7:29pm
| No you cant and yes it will. |
Posted By: drumlinefreek
Date Posted: 07 May 2006 at 8:00pm
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you can use a CO2 tank as long as it has an anti-siphon tube installed. However, it is highly recommended that you use nitrogen, or you risk damaging your marker with liquid CO2. ------------- A-5 J&J 14" Double trig Outkast Sniper II- rolling with the pump world |
Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 08 May 2006 at 8:02am
Exactly. Stop being cheap and spend the money on HPA. In the long run a HPA tank will be less than a new marker. ------------- 
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drumlinefreek wrote:Posted By: Spike511
Date Posted: 08 May 2006 at 5:34pm
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sure u can use co2...but it will kill it...murder it.. tear its heart out..strangle it....scratch it.... basically..its will kill your Ion slow and painfully. ------------- well then....as a last resort...SHOOT AT WHATEVER MOVES |
Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 08 May 2006 at 5:55pm
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So cutting out all the BS in this thread.... Yes you can use it, but I sure as hell wouldnt. Liquid c02 will fry your noid. (thats really bad) ------------- A-5 E-Grip JCS Dual Trigger DOP X-CORE 8 stage x-chamber Lapco Bigshot 14" Beadblasted Optional setup: R/T Dead on Blade trigger |
Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 08 May 2006 at 6:18pm
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have u ever see a deer get hit by a car...pretend ur hunting and the deer is the CO2 and the car is the marker...sure u get the deer killed but u risk damaging ur car...its just safer and easier to use a rifle...hope this helped..
in case u dont understand it...the Co2 will damage ur ION, most likely beyond repair -------------
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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 08 May 2006 at 8:32pm
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Not beyond repair....you'll just need a new noid. And I didnt get that at all ------------- A-5 E-Grip JCS Dual Trigger DOP X-CORE 8 stage x-chamber Lapco Bigshot 14" Beadblasted Optional setup: R/T Dead on Blade trigger |
Posted By: tipp-ed off
Date Posted: 08 May 2006 at 9:15pm
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a friend uses an ion + P-stab with anti-syphon co2 and it works absolutely flawlesly. The only problem is that with the money he spent on the tank and stab he could of got HPA. ------------- 
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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 08 May 2006 at 9:30pm
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Sure it works now, but sooner or later the c02 is gonna get to it.
------------- A-5 E-Grip JCS Dual Trigger DOP X-CORE 8 stage x-chamber Lapco Bigshot 14" Beadblasted Optional setup: R/T Dead on Blade trigger |
Posted By: tipp-ed off
Date Posted: 08 May 2006 at 9:47pm
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sooner or later the ion is going to break regardless. -------------
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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 08 May 2006 at 9:48pm
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True. Which is why I never bought one. ------------- A-5 E-Grip JCS Dual Trigger DOP X-CORE 8 stage x-chamber Lapco Bigshot 14" Beadblasted Optional setup: R/T Dead on Blade trigger |
Posted By: tigman250
Date Posted: 09 May 2006 at 6:00pm
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if i had an Ion i would run anti siphoned Co2 in it in a second....why, because i already have a boat load of Co2 tanks AND i currently run anti-siphoned Co2 in my R/T'd 98C and in my E-Bolted 98C and have no problems. at high rates of fire the gun dosen't even get cold, granted the tank will completly frost over but the gun suffers no ill effects. all the hooey about Co2 being "dirtier" than HPA is all crap IMO it's commonly used for welding and if it's clean enough to shield a molten puddle of metal from contaminating elements it's clean enough for a PB gun. and saying that Co2 will fry the solenoid on an Ion dosen't make much sence either because the Co2 gets nowhere near the "noid"......unless you run un-anti-siphoned tanks the condensation from the freezing marker would damage the solenoid and probably other things too. and while saying for the price of the stabilizer and tank you could buy a HPA bottle is probably true, but some of us already have a ton of Co2 tanks and play in the woods so we need to travel with alot of propelant, if i had to buy enough HPA tanks to supply all the shots that Co2 gives me i would have to refinance my house! long story short, you can run Co2 in an Ion if you take the proper steps to prevent freezing your gun. if you play on a field that has air readily available then HPA is probably the way to go but if you find yourself in the woods Co2 is king IMO. ------------- http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stickemup6of.jpg"> 
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Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 09 May 2006 at 6:28pm
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^Still..i wuldnt want to risk a 200+ marker being damaged in any way just cuz i didnt want to pay $70 on HPA...and in the long run HPA is much cheaper to use then CO2... -------------
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Posted By: tigman250
Date Posted: 09 May 2006 at 8:52pm
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i have well over $200 invested into both of my 98C's and run nothing but Co2....even the E-Bolted one. in the end it's up to the person involved who owns the gun, personally i would run anti-siphoned Co2 on an Ion others wouldn't. ------------- http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stickemup6of.jpg">
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Posted By: MoNkeY Hunter
Date Posted: 09 May 2006 at 9:07pm
Co2+ION=fried noid. IF you must just run antispifined co2 with a Sabilizer and you should be fine. Iv seen IONs run on CO2 quite nice. If you play at a field then I'd justgo HPA but for in the woodz go, a different gun. ION in woodz is a accident waiting to happen, The woodz is filled with dangerous things such as water and dreded Tippmanns.
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Posted By: SupermanDan
Date Posted: 09 May 2006 at 10:21pm
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Yeah, if you use an anti-siphoned tank, then you should be fine. but the
Pure Energy Co2 tanks need a new valve to put one in(35 bux, smart parts). i'm savin up for an SP8, and that was what i was gonna do(at least until i can afford HPA). i've never seen it actually done, but badlandspaintball.com has a thing on the ion page that's a link to the anti-siphons, so... ------------- fhqwhgads |
Posted By: hamchop71
Date Posted: 14 May 2006 at 6:00pm
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Yes and No, its NOT recommended that you use C02 on an Ion because of the risk of blowing your solenoide ($75-$100 part), but you can buy an Anti-Siphone upgrade for your tank, it reduces the amount of liquid C02 being injected into the gun. The reason alot of ppl just get HPA for an Ion is because every time you would air up w/ the AS-CO2 tank you risk blowing the solenoide, now thats a 100 dollar mistake are u willing 2 risk it? ------------- 98% of paintballers act gangsta', if you are the 2% that are normal, put this in your sig. |
Posted By: dark assassin
Date Posted: 14 May 2006 at 6:54pm
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how much does a anti siphon run usually...for an ion or an A-5 ------------- It's like a new pair o underwear, at first it's constrictive, but then it becomes a part of you." -Garth |
Posted By: Ken Majors
Date Posted: 14 May 2006 at 8:41pm
Most of the people I see using SP8s use remotes. If you are using a remote, there is no reason to get an anti-syphon tank. In fact it is pointless to use an antisyphon tank with a remote. Reason being, the anti-syphon tube will act as a dip tube when the bottle is vertical, unless you invert it, which is an option. That way you can use the tank in remote mode or on the gun, and it gives you a choice. The only way you will "fry your solenoid" is if you shoot the ion fast enough to freeze it. So when it thaws, all that condensation gets to the electronics and causes problems. If you don't go "noob o' matic" on ramping then you won't have a problem using anti-syphoned CO2 until you save up the cash for HPA. ------------- RLTW |
Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 15 May 2006 at 4:21pm
Tippmanns are meant to take co2 so there is not risk involved...Ions are no and there is risk that you will fry the niod... -------------
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Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 15 May 2006 at 5:11pm
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I wouldn't run co2 without the palmers in that case. With a palmers, I'm sure it would be fine.
------------- Tippmann A-5 Polished Internals E-Grip Ape Board JCS Blade Trigger QEV 8" Bigshot + Apex Ricochet R-5 / Tac Cap Palmers Stabilizer 68/4500 Crossfire |
Posted By: tigman250
Date Posted: 15 May 2006 at 8:18pm
the e-bolted Tippmann works almost the same as the Ion, so why would the Tippmann be able to run CO2 and the Ion not? as stated earlier you won't fry your solenoid if you don't frost the hell out of your gun. ------------- http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stickemup6of.jpg">
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Posted By: BARREL BREAK
Date Posted: 15 May 2006 at 10:32pm
How do you figure? The Ion is actually quite a sturdy platform, mine has run flawlessly. Anyway, though it is possible, it is not reccomended. Though if you must because of a scarcity of HPA, one can run it on anti-siphoned Co2, though a properly tuned Palmer stabilizer, and lowered rate of fire is reccomended. |
Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 15 May 2006 at 10:37pm
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antisiphons only work 50% of the time. buy hpa ------------- X |