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Topic: anti-siphon
Posted By: dark assassin
Subject: anti-siphon
Date Posted: 25 May 2006 at 2:19pm
I have just purchased a black vision impulse with freak insert, and vertical reg

i purchased a VL revolution for the gun

i am searching for the cheapest HPA tank possible for it, since i am already stretching my budget

another option is to get an anti-siphon Co2 tank....I already own four regular Co2 tanks......my question is: is it possible to put an anti-siphon system onto a regualr Co2 tank, or do you have to buy a new tank with that already installed?

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It's like a new pair o underwear, at first it's constrictive, but then it becomes a part of you."

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Posted By: FA22RaptorF22
Date Posted: 25 May 2006 at 2:41pm
Go for this one, crossfire's are like tippmann's. Cheap, reliable, durable.
http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=NmXIqGeGF2fIYSPzzFoIAG1P_y-InFNarcQ=?ProductID=zZSsFAY7_%2ewAAAD3x2elA_2t - http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/S tore/en/-/USD/DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=NmXIqGeGF2 fIYSPzzFoIAG1P_y-InFNarcQ=?ProductID=zZSsFAY7_%2ewAAAD3x2elA _2t


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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 25 May 2006 at 2:45pm
Actually, CO2 can work on all Smart Parts guns, they say so themselves.  It isnt recommended however, for obvious reasons.


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Posted By: dark assassin
Date Posted: 25 May 2006 at 4:49pm
another thing

whats the difference between a 60$ HPA tank and a $200 HPA tank

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It's like a new pair o underwear, at first it's constrictive, but then it becomes a part of you."

      -Garth


Posted By: tigman250
Date Posted: 25 May 2006 at 5:37pm
with about $12 in parts from the local hardware store you could have everything you need for an anti siphon for all the tanks you already have, and they work wonderfully!! as for how to do it, otter customs had a good article on A/S instilation

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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 25 May 2006 at 5:59pm
The only difference in HAP tanks the way your talking is the amount they hold and their weight.  The expensive ones are carbon fiber-wrapped, and its a good idea to get a cover to protect them, while the steel ones hold less, and are heavier.

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Posted By: benttwig33
Date Posted: 25 May 2006 at 6:25pm
HPA is awsome in every way shape and form, but if you need anti-siphon co2 KILLS normal co2.


Use anti siphon, do not use normal co2.

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Posted By: Bruce A. Frank
Date Posted: 25 May 2006 at 7:39pm

Originally posted by dark assassin dark assassin wrote:

I have just purchased a black vision impulse with freak insert, and vertical reg

i purchased a VL revolution for the gun

i am searching for the cheapest HPA tank possible for it, since i am already stretching my budget

another option is to get an anti-siphon Co2 tank....I already own four regular Co2 tanks......my question is: is it possible to put an anti-siphon system onto a regualr Co2 tank, or do you have to buy a new tank with that already installed?

Anti siphon can be installed on existing tanks and you really cannot buy one "off the shelf." The anti-siphon has to be individually adjusted to curve to the top side of the tank when it is screwed home into the ASA.

Difference in a $60 HPA and a $200 HPA? Weight! But you can find much less expensive HPA tanks through online stores, Ebay stores and through auction on Ebay. Used tanks with a year or two left on the hydro-test sell for $120 or less...I have bought them myself.



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Posted By: jjclown23
Date Posted: 25 May 2006 at 8:50pm
Yeah, for those cold days, you definitly dont want the liquid Co2 getting into your gun, it really messes stuff up.

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Posted By: Ilford Rule
Date Posted: 25 May 2006 at 10:05pm
revy on impulse? doable, but why? id go with at least an egg, so when YOU start getting up there in speed, you wont have to worry about the hopper limiting you. you wont chop (VISION! woot), but you will be capped.


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Posted By: dark assassin
Date Posted: 26 May 2006 at 8:46am
yeah.. like i said im pushing my budget

i climbed up into my closet last night and found some stuff to sell on ebay so that will boost my funds lol

once that hydro date runs out, your tank is just a dud, or you can get it re-hyroed?

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It's like a new pair o underwear, at first it's constrictive, but then it becomes a part of you."

      -Garth


Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 26 May 2006 at 10:48am
Yes, it can be re-hydroed.

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Posted By: PaintballPIMPIN
Date Posted: 26 May 2006 at 11:06am
i bought a 48cu/3000psi tank in 05(new on ebay for $85 and it doesnt have to be rehydroed til 09, pretty much the best deal i got paintball wise*besides 2 ebolt rams for $40, i think thats the best.


Posted By: Bruce A. Frank
Date Posted: 26 May 2006 at 11:35am

Originally posted by dark assassin dark assassin wrote:

yeah.. like i said im pushing my budget

i climbed up into my closet last night and found some stuff to sell on ebay so that will boost my funds lol

once that hydro date runs out, your tank is just a dud, or you can get it re-hyroed?

They are re-hydro-tested at that time to assure they are still in good condition. Hydro-testing runs from about $16 to $40 depending where you have it done.



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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 26 May 2006 at 1:43pm

Many people dont re-hydro test just because if whoever tests their tank deems it unsafe they just wasted 30 bucks that could have been used on their new tank.

 

And can anyone show me where I can find this anti siphon info?

 



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Posted By: dark assassin
Date Posted: 26 May 2006 at 3:41pm
http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/S tore/en/-/USD/DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=NmXIqGeGF2 fIYSPzzFoIAG1P_y-InFNarcQ=?ProductID=zZSsFAY7_%2ewAAAD3x2elA _2t


not pretty, might need to copy/paste

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It's like a new pair o underwear, at first it's constrictive, but then it becomes a part of you."

      -Garth


Posted By: Bruce A. Frank
Date Posted: 26 May 2006 at 10:20pm
Originally posted by SSOK SSOK wrote:

Many people dont re-hydro test just because if whoever tests their tank deems it unsafe they just wasted 30 bucks that could have been used on their new tank.

And can anyone show me where I can find this anti siphon info?

If there is no visible physical damage, it is not usual that they will be rejected. The testing stations I have used do not sell tanks, so there is no incentive to fail one un-necessarily. Most undamaged tanks are going to make it 10 years which is 2 to 3 hydro-tests.



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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 27 May 2006 at 8:29pm
I didnt say people fail them on purpose. Im saying that some people dont want to run the risk of wasting 30 dollars

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Posted By: Bruce A. Frank
Date Posted: 28 May 2006 at 7:00am

Originally posted by SSOK SSOK wrote:

I didnt say people fail them on purpose. Im saying that some people dont want to run the risk of wasting 30 dollars

And as I said, the risk of failure is low...and $30 is a rather small investment (about the price of all day air and play on most fields) particularly when the price of a new tank will be 3 to 7 times that fee.



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Posted By: dark assassin
Date Posted: 28 May 2006 at 12:06pm
whats the smallest HPA tank i can get, because i have to go to the field to fill it, ill just get all day air blahblahblah so i might as well go with the lightest possible

also- whats the difference between fiber-wrapped and not fiber-wrapped?

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It's like a new pair o underwear, at first it's constrictive, but then it becomes a part of you."

      -Garth


Posted By: ridesnowbrdr
Date Posted: 28 May 2006 at 1:54pm
fiber wrapped is a lot lighter


Posted By: Bruce A. Frank
Date Posted: 28 May 2006 at 5:39pm

Originally posted by dark assassin dark assassin wrote:

whats the smallest HPA tank i can get, because i have to go to the field to fill it, ill just get all day air blahblahblah so i might as well go with the lightest possible

also- whats the difference between fiber-wrapped and not fiber-wrapped?
Weight! The cheap HPA tanks are usually steel, only 3000 psi and heavy.

As for size, it is impractical to go below 45 ci particularly if it is only a 3000 psi tank. Just requires too many trips to the refill station.



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Posted By: FyreFly
Date Posted: 29 May 2006 at 12:21am
I'd certainly rather spend $30 on a hydro test than $200 on a new tank.


If you looking for a small tank, I'd recomend a 45/4500.  (45ci, 4500psi)   Save your money and get the tank you want.  A 4500psi tank will get alot more shots per fill than a 3000, and fiber is far lighter than the cheaper steel tanks.


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