So, I got pulled over.....
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Topic: So, I got pulled over.....
Posted By: .Ryan
Subject: So, I got pulled over.....
Date Posted: 31 May 2006 at 11:41pm
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But this was seriously shady...So, I'm on my way to school. Goin up 159 into Chillicothe and the trooper that had been following me flipped on his lights. I pull over and sit there while he runs my tags. He walks up and tells me I was doing 58 in a 55....I do the whole bs apologies and excuses and whatnot and then he comments on how my political magnet things on the back of my car are "cute"....I asked him "what?" and he's like, "Don't like our soldiers do ya boy?". I was sorta dumbfounded so I kinda stuttered the beginings of a rebuttle but he walked back to his car...He comes back like a full five minutes later and tells me that he's gonna let me off with a warning because I was buckled up... Doesn't that sound shady to you? I mean, he'd been following me for a while, he had to have seen my seatbelt, and I was only like 3 miles over. Plus, he had to comment on the magnets... I think it's BS. Just a jerkwad trooper that had to overstep his bounderies to stroke his right-wing ego...Besides, all I have back there is an "out of Iraq" ribbon, an Amnesty International sticker, and a blue thing that says, "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism' -Howard Zinn".....I so hate our soldiers....But hey, nothing like a little political persecution to make the night interesting... -------------  |
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Posted By: pb125
Date Posted: 31 May 2006 at 11:44pm
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LAW SUIT FTW. ------------- 
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Posted By: BooksAndLeaves
Date Posted: 31 May 2006 at 11:44pm
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ITS BUSH I TELL YA!
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Posted By: XenoSabre
Date Posted: 31 May 2006 at 11:45pm
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Bumper stickers ruin cars. period. ------------- [IMG]http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f76/Xeno-Sabre/kutaragi.png"> http://xeno-sabre.deviantart.com/ - http://xeno-sabre.deviantart.com/ |
Posted By: mbro
Date Posted: 31 May 2006 at 11:46pm
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Hahaha, that's funny. Not wanting soldiers to get killed = hating them.
Sucks for you though. Funny for me, and that's all that really matters. ------------- 
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Posted By: Shub
Date Posted: 31 May 2006 at 11:46pm
Do you have a lot of anti-Bush stickers on your car? He may have pulled you over to figure out if you're a pot-smoking hippy 
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 31 May 2006 at 11:47pm
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you are too obsessed with making your political stance known publically. seriously can you let one day go by where you let nobody know your hatred of bush? that means bumperstickers and all.
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Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 31 May 2006 at 11:48pm
 you got profiled. ------------- 
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 31 May 2006 at 11:49pm
| I was driving downtown today, and was doing 95-100 in a 70, and a cop passed me in the opposite direction, didnt even glance twice at me. |
Posted By: Hairball!!!
Date Posted: 31 May 2006 at 11:49pm
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FIGHT THE MAN!
I tell ya, Che had the right idea |
Posted By: bravecoward
Date Posted: 31 May 2006 at 11:49pm
| Should've have gotten into a politcial debate with him. |
Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 31 May 2006 at 11:56pm
Well, taking the magnets off would be about the only thing I would have to do for most days. I'm strong in my political beliefs and I enjoy express ing them when taking part in discussions, such as the ones that this forum are for (OMG), but I'm hardly obsessed. It's not like a walk around with a bullhorn screaming anti-Bush slogans. The stickers and magnets are on my car because I felt like putting them there and because I believe in their message. Maybe I should have chosen a few Jegs stickers instead to keep those, like you and the cop, who disagree with my from getting pissy....Besides, I hear each one you stick on adds like 15hp.... ps Xeno, my car is pretty crappy anyway man....stickers can't hurt a rustbucket like mine...lol... ------------- |
High Voltage wrote:Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 12:09am
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how could you hate your soldiers? they fight for your country you should hate the politicians (preferably bush but you can hate them all) plus what did you expect for the bumper stickers. halfway through your story i was expecting him to smash your lights and bring you in for not signaling. but whatever ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 12:46am
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I don't hate soldiers...I was being sarcastic...And I shouldn't have to expect that crap because of my bumper stickers...Ya know, free speech and all that junk....
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Posted By: benttwig33
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 12:51am
Thank you! Bumper stickers aren't going to make a difference. But wow, you got pulled for doing 3 over...haha dang. Idk about anyone else but you can comfortably cruise at 5 over, but when you get about to 10 over is when you need to watch it...on pretty much every road.. ------------- Sig is WAY too big. |
Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 12:57am
How about all those Bush bumper stickers? I don't see you complaining about those and people proclaiming their love for Bush. You have the exact same mindset as that trooper. Good bless. |
Posted By: Apu
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 6:51am
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I saw an awesome bumper sticker that said something like "Using my right's to piss off the religious right!" or something like that, except im sure it was a little different because it actually sounded cooler than that.
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Posted By: Boss_DJ
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 7:15am
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Posted By: DsXz
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 7:34am
and the back of my truck would lead you to believe that if your too close i cant see you behind me...and its been a problem before....if he had given u a ticket and u went to court the judge would have laughed at the officer ------------- http://imageshack.us"> 
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Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 7:47am
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Prolly why he didn't go ahead and do it. Not to mention the whole thing was on tape....I wonder if I could find out who it was...
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Posted By: Project Irene
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 8:11am
| He was bored. |
Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 8:25am
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.Ryan You are priceless. The fact that you were in violation of a traffic law is totally obscured by your percieved persecution over your political views.
One of the glories of "Free Speech" is those who do have a different opinion are allowed to make thier views known also. If the officer in the execution of his official duties makes a comment based on information he observes, in your mind his opinion and or actions are now wrong. Part of the procedure to determine potential driver "criminal" involvement is to engage in some sort of minor confrontational conversation and judge the "suspects" response, is the driver agitated, nervous, acting strange, alcohol smell...part of standard police procedure in todays enviorment. Don't know about OH but Nebraska radar trips at 3mph over, giving the warning beep. Now in the interest of public safety and the officer observed that the offending driver of the vehicle is in a "high risk" group as determined by DOT and insurance concerns, the officer in question was "wrong" in your opinion making a traffic stop, because of what you believe is a totally politically motivated harrasement? The fact that your wrong, initiated the incident has no bearing? Gotta love it....................... ------------- 
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Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 9:01am
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ryan... you know if you ask the officer for their badge or badge #, i believe they legally have to give it to you. and OS... seriously... it's gotta be one jerk of a cop to pull someone over going 3 over... and " engage in some sort of minor confrontational conversation" sure, that's going to be the textbook defense that the cop will take to defend his actions. bottom line, cop was probably being an ass to you because of differing political beliefs, but did the cop do anything out of line or illegal... probably not. |
Posted By: reifidom
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 9:03am
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I was with my friend's dad when he got a ticket for going 1mph over the limit. The judge stuck with the cop and my friend's dad had to pay. He was maaaaad. ------------- 
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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 9:14am
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Ok, so if you only kill someone a little, it should not be a punishable offense? Traffic law is like any other it is purely a descretion of the officer to stop, ticket, or warn on the violation. Just because 99% of Americans violate traffic laws as a norm (everyone speeds, fact) if by chance you are the selected individual for enforcement there must be an alternative motive by the officer?
The cop was doing his job, 1mph or 30mph, the law was violated so based on his official standard procedures or departmental standrad procedures or a standard safety procedure he selected .Ryan to stop, .Ryan won that days speeding lottery, nothing more nothing less, and the questions and or comments are again standard procedure, nothing more nothing less. Part of the cost of driving the way we do (speeding) is occasionally you get caught, pay the fine, the raised insurance premiums, suck up the points on the license, etc, it is your choice to obey the law, of face the options the officer or judge then make available once caught. BTW the officers badge number and name are on the warning ticket if issued. -------------
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Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 9:36am
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No warning ticket was issued, but that's nifty. Anyway, you can issue all the conjecture you want, as can I, as to the motives of the trooper. I however believe that, since for one they almost never pull you over for anything less than 5 miles over, and the way the officer acted, as opposed to the non-confrontational and non-jerkwad way I was treated when I was pulled over for a seatbelt violation last year, I think he pulled me over because of the things on the back of my car. There's no way to logically argue this because it's all conjecture on both sides so yeah....I do have to say that you can not compare speeding and murder becuase it is one of those funny violations in which there is a middle ground. You can't murder someone a little, but you can speed just a little. Besides that, my speedometer could have been off a little bit...And you can't say you wouldn't have the same suspicion if the situation was reversed and it was a liberal cop commenting on your bumper stickers after pulling you over for going 3 over.
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Posted By: PAINTBALL1
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 10:21am
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You got pulled over doing 3mph over which is unusaul, but not unheard of. The cop made a comment.. SO?! Who cares, getting pulled over is never fun but you didnt get a ticket, so what? I think you should just quit while your ahead, and be glad he didnt give you a ticket. but anyways get over it. ------------- USAF Special Weapons Technician. |
Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 10:23am
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Drive a semi in the Peoples Republic of California, and have a Chipper pull you over on I15 just crossing the Nevada Border as you try to keep your inertia up to make the long climb ahead of you (at max GVW with my 600 hp CAT motor best I can get is 5th gear (out of 18)and 35mph by the time I hit the top, and watchin the temp guage the whole way). And they love stoppin you at the first pullover just before you really start to climb, so you have nada in inertia to get you goin again. One day it is fine to do 65 till you start the climb, next day it is USX day, Werner day, Schneider day, whatever the officer(s) decide for that non-exsistant quota system to be filled. It is what we call an occupational hazard.
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 10:50am
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I'm with the "bored" theory. The 58/55 was clearly just an excuse to pull ryan over for whatever other reason (which is why we should fix our speed limits, but that is a different discussion). The officer was never going to issue a ticket. Now, whether he pulled ryan over because of the bumper stickers is another matter - my suspicion is that he just figured you looked a little suspicious, and that he might get a whiff of alcohol or pot when you rolled the window down. This way he also gets a free look in the car. Fairly routine police work, IMO. But, that said - clearly the comments about the bumper sticker are wildly inappropriate. |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 10:54am
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Ok - practically everything here is incorrect. The first sentence is just nonsense, but that's obvious. Traffic law is not "like any other" law - there are many different kinds of laws that are enforced differently with different consequences. All laws are NOT equal. And it is NOT purely within the discretion of the officer whether to stop, ticket, or warn on any given legal violation. Officers do not have the option (to use your analogy) of giving a "warning" for murder. Some amount of discretion is by necessity involved in police work, but they are subject to significant constraints. |
Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 11:05am
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A judge wouldnt "laugh that off" as someone stated before. The judge
will almost always stick with the cop in those situations because the
thing with traffic violations is you either did it or you didnt. It
IS against the law to go over the speed limit, so it would have
been upheld in court.
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Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 11:06am
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Well, I don't drink or poke smot so there should have been no suspicion there. But besides that, I was under the impression that they couldn't stop you for no reason....
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 11:13am
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That can't stop you for no reason. But they CAN stop you for speeding. So they stop you for speeding (3 over), then check for alcohol/pot/guns, run your plates and check for tickets, get your license and check for warrants, all that good stuff. They basically use the traffic stop as an excuse to do a quick background check. As to whether a ticket would have help up in court - I certainly would have fought before even getting to court. That's the type of thing you might get dismissed by the DA long before your court date. And while judges may have a bias in favor of the police officer, many states have laws limiting enforcement of barely-speeding situations, and there is an official federal "recommendation" that states not ticket for less than 5 over, so I wouldn't assume that the judge wouldn't just toss it out. |
Posted By: Sammy
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 12:25pm
Do you honestly believe that the cop saw his left wing bumper stickers as he was driving by? I doubt it. He probably saw the stickers as he approached the car, after he had already pulled him over. And in that case, he still gave Ryan a warning. |
Posted By: oreomann33
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 2:46pm
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You were'nt ahead or going faster than anyone else on the road were you?
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Posted By: glazener24
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 3:00pm
| Rules are rules, just because most cops don't bother pulling you over if you are a couple miles per hour over the limit doesn't mean the officer was out of line. You were breaking the law and got the appropriate punishment. Sounds to me like you are trying to make a fuss over a something pretty simple. |