We need a revival
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Topic: We need a revival
Posted By: High Voltage
Subject: We need a revival
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 11:11am
that's right, i said it. this place is becoming stale with the same old arguments and petty quarrels. i think we need some new policy, especially regarding mods and other rules defining accounts.
for starters, i understand that still, not everyone has broadband but for the majority of us who do, how about we allow some larger file sizes in sigs? honestly, if you are still on dialup you need to get with the program here.
mods, it's become a great annoyance at how many mods we have and that something like what happened to cedric can happen without any warning. that a mod who has been dormant for quite a while suddenly comes out of the woodwork and vandalizes someone's account for no good reason. and then fails to inform people it has happened, allowing others to make assumptions and blame the wrong people. it's a trend here among the mods, it has happened for a long time, i can remember mods not owning up to their punishments back when i was a troublemaker.
so for a solution, how about the mods need to be more active to keep their stars? no offense to anyone, and i will not name people, but if you haven't posted in a good while, why are you still a mod? and for the active mods i thank you (hway, reb, rambs, god, ruska, shorty and enos) for giving half a crap to frequent this place and make it better.
maybe i just needed to vent, or maybe we really do need a change here. not like we need a totall rewrite of all the rules, but we could sure use some redefining. no, i don't mean like the krl days again but at least we had order back then...
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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 11:14am
They can't take away the mods stars...
Whats done is done, mods shouldnt have to tell everyone what they did and
why they did it. Its in the Terms of Service thats its basically their
call whether or not to take action.
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 11:15am
but they can deactivate accounts. come on ywsm, put your thinking cap on.
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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 11:16am
Thats taking it a little too far.
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Posted By: reclusivetorrid
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 11:17am
Cedric probably deserved it....
People like him shouldn't be in here anyow.
Elvis did what was correct in this case.
I have always respected Evil Elvis, and I welcome his return.
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 11:22am
you wanna get down to the bottom line here? my beef is that he came out of nowhere and did it. under policy right now mods feel that their actions do not need justification. as witnessed by elvis not coming forth and making it now to at least cedric right away. and also in the pm's hway posted in the mod forum. i've read them too, and if anyone was "being a punk" or "deserved it" it was definitely not cedric. but you go ahead, i expect anyone who has been a member before 2k3 to disagree with me and support their pals.
i'm not arguing what happened, i used it as example to change the policy. how about we stay on topic and discuss policy? i'm sure hway would appreciate it if you stayed on topic. 
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Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 11:25am
I agree with HV. But, just for the uninformed, what was the whole Cedric thing about?
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Posted By: reclusivetorrid
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 11:29am
I didn't change the topic. But you just decided to it seems...
I'm only "sticking with my pals" because the're really some of the only decent people here...there are a few here that are new though.
I do agree with you that some checks and balances would help the forum, but these need to be done correctly, if done wrong they will fail miserably and this forum will go even further down the drain.
If I were a mod cedric would have been gone LONG ago.
Thus, probably why I'm NOT a mod. I get too mad.
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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 11:30am
I was just discussing whether or not he acted in policy, and whether or not it needed changes.
Things are fine the way they are, if a mod feels something needsw to be
done but doesnt want to come out and say it was him thats fine with me.
Even if he would have come right out there would have been Cedrics
little possie demanding his post count back and whining about the man
putting them down.
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Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 11:40am
I wasn't aware that making a mod angry was against the policy agreement. The things Cedric did have been tossed back and forth between members many times but since it took place within the old boys club it's not a bannable offense? It sounds like a joke that got out of hand....it's not like Cedric actually defamed hway, just a funny photochop and all hell breaks loose...jeeze...Oh and RT, you probably shouldn't be judging people's decency based on your limited knowledge of the general population around here. Seems to me you stick with your buds too much and need to chill.
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Posted By: zergrush
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 11:50am
I agree that the forums have become rather stale, but I'm not really sure shuffling the mods around would do anything.
I'm also curious as to what specific event spurred EE to nuke Cedric. Sure, he's been a punk, he's probably done enough to warrant getting booted, but what specifically pushed him over the edge?
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Posted By: reclusivetorrid
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 11:54am
Limited knowledge?
yeah, your one to be discussing "limited knowledge"...
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Posted By: zergrush
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 11:56am
reclusivetorrid wrote:
Limited knowledge?
yeah, your one to be discussing "limited knowledge"... |
To be fair, you ARE the one known for "coming out of your hole" every ice age or so.
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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 12:01pm
Have the manlihood to post under your normal username...or at least tell us who you are.
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Posted By: Hairball!!!
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 12:05pm
You Wont See Me wrote:
Have the manlihood to post under your normal username...or at least tell us who you are.
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okay
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Posted By: travis75
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 12:11pm
wait- what happened?
/confused
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 12:40pm
I agree with HV that this place is getting weak. It doesnt have the family feel it once did. Lets not turn this into a debate about the legitamacy of what happened to Cedric and why, the mods are slugging that one out, us debating it just adds fuel to the fire and angers even more people.
It's not exactly easy to just "revive" a forum, but we can try
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Posted By: DracoPlasm
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 12:41pm
travis75 wrote:
wait- what happened?/confused
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the forum is falling apart lol to make things short
Cedric did something to hway that offended him and they had words through PM which evil elvis read and guested cedric for being a "punk"
The "senior" members of the forum are finally getting what they deserve and they dont like it so their taking it out on the mods and RT
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Posted By: benttwig33
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 12:42pm
what happened to cedric?
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 12:42pm
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I hope I get what I deserve... I think I deserve some pie...that'd be sweet
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 12:45pm
pie and punch anyone?
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Posted By: DracoPlasm
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 12:45pm
choopie911 wrote:
It's not exactly easy to just "revive" a forum, but we can try |
We can start by letting the new people in...for example when a newb posts a topic on an old but still funny video and he gets flamed but you chewp among many others can post basically whatever you want and the rest of the "seniors" will laugh and make the topic ok...
These little "clicks" going around are pathetic and are killing the forum
I know if I was a new guy and I got flamed everytime I made a topic I wouldent come back to the forum and in the long run the forum dies when all the new guys feel unwelcome
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 12:55pm
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I managed ok, my first topic ever was "which barrel should I get" after which, I probably made 4 or 5 more of the same as time progressed. I try to be nice to new guys, if they're deserving, if its someone coming in with a new leet shotgun idea, I'll tell them its a bad idea and why. If they post something funny/ informative, I'll comment on that too. I personally like the forum "cliques" as they provide more interesting content than just generic, non-connected forumers. I understand the frustration with them, but as far as random, useless posts being funny, when I was a total unheard of noob, DaveEllis was at his peak of not making sense, and it was some of the funniest stuff I ever saw, I think some would agree.
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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 1:00pm
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The whole thing with me was that Hway and I were exchanging PMs. I was saying how I did not think he was doing a fair job moderating, and he was trying his best to prove he was being fair. He did a good job explaining it. Now, he posted the PMs in the moderators forum, and Evil Elvis read them. He decided I was acting like a "punk" in the private messages. I did not use any bad words or any offensive pictures. He did not like the way I was speaking to Hway, so he guested me, took my post count, changed my password, changed my email in my account so I would not be notified of a password change, took my avatar away, and took my sig away. He had no right to do any of this. It was between me and Hway, and it should have remained that way.
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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 1:05pm
choopie911 wrote:
when I was a total unheard of noob, DaveEllis was at
his peak of not making sense, and it was some of the funniest stuff I
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Same.
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Posted By: super_gman
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 1:57pm
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When was the last time EE posted anything? I've been around a few years, and I've never even heard of him. If he's going to continue to be a mod, he could at least be involved with the forum community.
As far as reviving the forum goes, I haven't been around here in a month or so, so I have no idea where the whole "cliques" thing came from. Was it going on back in the day, or did it just start recently? I never really associate with y'all in any way other than through the mainly useless posts I make every now and then, so I prolly wouldn't have noticed the cliques anyway. If we want to maintain the "family atmosphere", we need to start by, as someone previously stated, treating the newbs a bit better. If we continue to be a--holes to them, people are going to think that we're all a bunch of a--holes and nobody will want to join the forum, which would be bad. Secondly, it should be mandatory that all incoming members read the forum rules, particularly points regarding the Search Button. Topics of conversation are becoming stagnant because the same exact topics are being posted over and over and over again. If newbs know about and are familiar with the search button, none of them will ever get their heads bitten off by a senior member again. Only other thing I can think of is the star system. Is there any way we can change it back to the way it was before? It's a shame to see that someone can achieve a higher rank than someone else because they make 10000 worthless posts as opposed to someone elses 500 useful and informative posts. Having a legit. star system would better create a hierarchy and give some of us regular members someone to look up to and go to for advice rather some retard who gloats about his rank and does nothing to help the other members or community.
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Posted By: oreomann33
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 2:38pm
PBC managment!
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Posted By: *Stealth*
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 2:47pm
Am I the only one who realizes the tippmann forum as a whole entity is a clique in its-self?
I got torn apart as a noob, You get respect by takeing it, and laughing
at yourself. If you get pissed because some people ribbed you, your not
gonna end up going any where. That happens almost every where, The
'vets" give the new guy a hard time to see what he can handle.
I think alot of people need to get back in touch with what a "Forum"
is. People are different, people have differing attitudes, and
different tastes.
EE could be called as much of a punk, as Cedric could. Depending on your standpoint.
Just let it go. Forums need revival because of crap like this... You cant revive an entity that is against itself.
I mean, HV has a legit point... But sitting her bickering about it, wont get anything done.
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Posted By: reifidom
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 2:54pm
I remember when I started... Lots of posting, reading responses, then crying. Posting and reading responses while crying. Crying and then posting about it only to read responses and cry.
But hey, we all went through that, right? Right guys? ::sits back down::
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Posted By: oreomann33
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 2:57pm
Hunger strike!
Ready....GO!
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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 3:09pm
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Super_gman, The “clique” that was referred to is Paintball Chat(PBC). PBC has been the target of some of the mods for a while now. I am an avid PBCer and have had lots of good times there, but I will be the first to say that PBC regs get special treatment because of who they are. Some of this comes from a couple of mods who themselves are PBCers, and the fact that PBC regs have been around the forum for years and their contributions to the forum have been tremendous. However there are lots of things that go on with PBC that SHOULD NOT be happening. We see things that the average forum should not be seeing, and hear things that we should not be hearing about (If you need to know what I am talking about, you already know). Also PBCer’s get a lot of lenience when it comes to strikes and guestings that we should not have. It is a good idea to give a little more lenience to contributing members of the forum, and regs who have been here a long time but there is a little too much lenience is given to PBC today. The best example of this is when a PBCer says “WTF” it goes unchecked, but when a newbie says it they get a strike. I ask the mods to moderate the same way across the board, and not to give special treatment to any group. I also ask that the privledged information that is passed into PBC not be passed anymore, unless it pertains specifically to us and there is a need to know. PBCer should not be considered any better or any worse than any other forumers.
I agree with HV on the mods situation, there are plenty of good mods on this forum who are very helpful (mainly the ones HV mentioned) but there are quite a few who drop in once in a Blue Moon and decide they are going to mod for 3 hours and then leave. Stars can be taken from Mods, it was done to UT. Mods who do not moderate anymore, or stop in less than once a month should have their moderator status revoked until they decide to come back on a more permanent basis. There is no reason to have 18 mods, but only have about 8 of them active.
As for the Cedric situation, If the main reason why EE guested Cedric was because of the PMs then EE stepped WWAAYY out of line. PMs are Private for a reason, and Hway should have never posted them in the mods forum to begin with. However even though he did EE should have never guested Cedric for information that was passed via PM. That is totally uncalled for, and should not be tolerated. Information posted in PM’s, no matter how offensive is not against the forum rules. It has never been against the rules, and it isn’t for a reason.
Hway, you are a good mod and I would hate to see you leave because of this. I know you are mad, and you made a mistake but just because someone calls you on it doesn’t mean you just up and leave. We all make mistakes.
Evil Elvis, You on the other hand have been a mod for a long time. You know that PM information is Private, and is not against the forum rules. I think you should take a little vacation and come back when you remember how to moderate. If you guested Cedric for reasons other than what was in the PM’s I would like to see what post caused you to do what you did, I will edit this post and make my apologies.
My 2 Cents..
Not that any mod is going to read it..
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Posted By: PBalla2242
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 3:25pm
that's what happens when you give middle-aged dudes with too much free time a chance for importance with a little 'e-power'. sad...but true in most cases...
...i think its backwards that a bunch of total strangers demand respect like some of the mods. they should be good enough to earn it rather than use their e-authority and mess with people over the internet. they shouldn't have to rely on a star system for forumers to respect. there are plenty of regular guys as mods, but some just let the pretty minimal responsibility get to their heads.
im not trying to stir up anything or pick on a sitation that im totally out of, but i can see what others are addressing (ive had my own complications too) and i see alot of good points.
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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 3:49pm
Pballa,
Who are you refering to as demanding respect?
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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 4:08pm
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This whole thing is like The Matrix.
It keeps happening, then gets reset.
Ive seen this same debate, or debates simmilar to it, a few times since I started foruming. Its all comical now.
"Well he was being a punk".
"He took away my posts"
"He was mean in PM's"
"He messed with my account"
Yawn. Its all been around before. Give it a year or two and another big controversy will arrupt. Another squabble. Another clique getting it's feelings hurt.
The little battles between the "old" cliques and the "new" cliques are nothing new. I just enjoy sitting back and watching them now.
People will complain about the forum going downhill. Peope will leave a few times.
Oh well.
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Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 4:52pm
I can be the Tippmann Forum BlankHole if ya want. High Voltage knows I can be a jerk when I want to be.
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 5:22pm
Justice wrote:
I can be the Tippmann Forum BlankHole if ya want. High Voltage knows I can be a jerk when I want to be.
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Then I get to be the "mean tag along co-bully." I've always at least tried to get along with everyone on the forums, maybe it's time to change that.
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Posted By: hwayhzrd
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 6:02pm
And all this started because I tried to start a thread to have some fun, like
it was in the past, and everything goes to hell.
I have done my best to be fair to you guys. I have never been a hard case,
and I treat everyone equally, as much as I possibly can at least.
This used to be a great place to be, a family if you will.
There are some who just won't hear of it, jack-holes that spend every
second tearing others down, spamming, and continually pushing things
until, like over the last couple of days, we have a blow up.
Then everyone is like, "oh, we need to change things, crack down on (fill
in the blank), and then all will be Utopia!"
I have always tried to be a forumers' Mod. I like to have fun, help out new
members when I can, encourage the FUN silliness, but when it comes to
following the TOS for the forum? It's all business. Always has been that
way, and until I am stripped of rank, it always WILL be that way.
Maybe those with short attention spans don't remember the way I do
things. I know I am not around like I used to be.
But if you go back and look at some of the older posts, you will see that I
Mod the same now as I did in the "good ole days".
If this puts a crimp in someones' stride, sorry. I don't answer to you. I
answer to Tippmann.
i will take the hits, the barbs, the insults, the doubting of my "sanity", do
your worst.
The pioneers ALWAYS take the arrows.
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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 6:05pm
So, do you condone Evil Elvis' actions Vis-a-Vis cedric?
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 6:10pm
oh spare me the victim routine hway, cedric made a fun photoshop because you made a PHOTOSHOP thread. then you took offense and it was YOU who began PM'ing him asking what his problem was. i saw the pm's as it happened. tough crap if you can't take someone calling you sweetie. after what you had said to cedric, i'd call you something hurtful not in jest.
and how evil elvis played into all this made no sense whatsoever. but hey, you have 4 stars that must make you better than everyone here and their mother. i think it's all shady business. i liked how you said it was NOT right to do taht to cedric's account but you sat back and did nothing to fix it for him.
it may be routine that some changes occur but eventually we will get the right ones made and this crap won't happen again. nobody said take your mod powers so i don't see what a little change would do to hurt you. you of all people being a mod should welcome any change to make this place better. or is it because i'm not tippmann and you don't answer to me. if this place was run more like a democracy some people would be held accountable for their actions...
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Posted By: hwayhzrd
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 6:14pm
It's not my judgement to make.
EE has his ways, I have my own.
Would that have been my choice? On a gut level, personal? Yes. Would YOU
not?
But on a responsibility to the forum level? No. Absolutely not.
However, at least I know I have one person who has my back, which is more
than I can say for a great many others here.
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Posted By: hwayhzrd
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 6:15pm
PBalla2242 wrote:
that's what happens when you give middle-aged
dudes with too much free time a chance for importance with a little 'e-
power'. sad...but true in most cases...
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[sarcasm]Golly, I didn't see THIS one coming ... [/sarcasm]
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 6:17pm
Every friggin' one of you log off right now. You have better things to
do than this. HWay, I know for a fact that you have a wife you could be
spending time with, and Snake and HV, you guys both have right and left hands. I leave the rest to your twisted maginations.
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Posted By: hwayhzrd
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 6:19pm
High Voltage wrote:
oh spare me the victim routine hway, cedric made
a fun photoshop because you made a PHOTOSHOP thread. then you took
offense and it was YOU who began PM'ing him asking what his problem
was. i saw the pm's as it happened. tough crap if you can't take someone
calling you sweetie. after what you had said to cedric, i'd call you
something hurtful not in jest.and how evil elvis played into all this made
no sense whatsoever. but hey, you have 4 stars that must make you
better than everyone here and their mother. i think it's all shady business.
i liked how you said it was NOT right to do taht to cedric's account but
you sat back and did nothing to fix it for him.it may be routine that some
changes occur but eventually we will get the right ones made and this
crap won't happen again. nobody said take your mod powers so i don't
see what a little change would do to hurt you. you of all people being a
mod should welcome any change to make this place better. or is it
because i'm not tippmann and you don't answer to me. if this place was
run more like a democracy some people would be held accountable for
their actions...
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This is NOT a democracy, because that is not what Tippmann wants. Ask
'em if you think otherwise, my naive friend.
Get off your high horse, you are merely an instigator in all of this, like the
skinny kid who hangs with the schoolyard bully squeeling, "Yeah! Yeah!
Hit him again!"
I wouldn't mind saying some things to you either, junior. I said nothing to
Cedric to elicit the reaction I got.
I asked for facts, and didn't get them
I am not going anywhere.
Problem?
Complain to Tippmann.
Leave.
I could really care less.
It's not my problem, it's yours.
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Posted By: hwayhzrd
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 6:20pm
brihard wrote:
Every friggin' one of you log off right now. You have
better things to
do than this. HWay, I know for a fact that you have a wife you could be
spending time with, and Snake and HV, you guys both have right and left
hands. I leave the rest to your twisted maginations.
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You know, that's the best piece of wisdom I have seen on this forum for a
long, long time.
Kudos, brihard
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Posted By: Shub
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 6:21pm
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Get off the soapbox HV. Being a mod on an internet forum is a thankless job to start with, and you have been around this place long enough to know that the mods around here aren't the type to go off on a power trip.
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 6:23pm
hwayhzrd wrote:
It's not my judgement to make.
EE has his ways, I have my own.
Would that have been my choice? On a gut level, personal? Yes. Would YOU
not?
But on a responsibility to the forum level? No. Absolutely not.
However, at least I know I have one person who has my back, which is more
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you say that like you are the only one with a fellow mod firend... you aren't quite as invincible as you make yourself out to be hway. and as for that gut level response, there was no reason to mess with an account during any of your little quarrel with cedric. if anyone was a punk, as EE put it, it sure wasn't cedric. if you consider his behavior as being a punk, i suggest your attitude you took with him when he asked for an explanation for your hatred. he DID back his up, it's rather dumb of you to ask him to link to deleted or moved threads... not to mention, you are a big boy, you can remember what you did in certain threads, just mentioning them as he did should have been enough proof for you.
i'm tired of debating this, i made the thread to discuss possible changes. as you so put it before "it's my thread, i can do what i want with it" so let's get back on topic and think positive here.
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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 6:28pm
hwayhzrd wrote:
It's not my judgement to make.
EE has his ways, I have my own.
Would that have been my choice? On a gut level, personal? Yes. Would YOU
not?
But on a responsibility to the forum level? No. Absolutely not.
However, at least I know I have one person who has my back, which is more
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I don't care how you slice it, EE was WRONG, DEAD WRONG. He overstepped his bounds and you know it. If Jason was still Admin EE would have been removed already and you know it. He was way out of line, but you still support him, why?
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Posted By: hwayhzrd
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 6:28pm
High Voltage wrote:
you say that like you are the only one with a
fellow mod firend...
YOUR WORDS, NOT MINE
you aren't quite as invincible as you make yourself out to be hway.
IF YOU SAY SO
and as for that gut level response, there was no reason to mess with an
account during any of your little quarrel with cedric.
NOT DISAGREEING
if anyone was a punk, as EE put it, it sure wasn't cedric. if you consider
his behavior as being a punk, i suggest your attitude you took with him
when he asked for an explanation for your hatred. he DID back his up, it's
rather dumb of you to ask him to link to deleted or moved threads...
HOW DARE I ASK FOR EVIDENCE?! GOLLY, THAT'S MEAN OF ME
not to mention, you are a big boy, you can remember what you did in
certain threads, just mentioning them as he did should have been enough
proof for you.
AND I'M NOT AFRAID TO ADMIT I MAKE MISTAKES. CAN YOU TWO SAY
THE SAME?
i'm tired of debating this, i made the thread to discuss possible changes.
as you so put it before "it's my thread, i can do what i want with it" so let's
get back on topic and think positive here.
WHERE WAS ALL THIS "POSITIVE" ATTITUDE WHEN YOU WERE EGGING
THINGS ON? HYPOCRITE.
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Posted By: hwayhzrd
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 6:30pm
Snake6 wrote:
hwayhzrd wrote:
It's not my judgement to make.
EE has his ways, I have my own.
Would that have been my choice? On a gut level, personal? Yes. Would
YOU not?
But on a responsibility to the forum level? No. Absolutely not.
However, at least I know I have one person who has my back, which is
more than I can say for a great many others here. | I don't care
how you
slice it, EE was WRONG, DEAD WRONG. He overstepped his bounds and
you know it. If Jason was still Admin EE would have been removed already
and you know it. He was way out of line, but you still support him, why?
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I never said I supported his action. You said I did. Accuracy check, please.
I do not control the Mods. If there is an issue, the Administrator will deal
with it, NOT me.
"Love the sinner, hate the sin"
------------- If I attack, follow me
If I flee, kill me
If I die, avenge me
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Posted By: chronic future
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 6:40pm
Internet Forum. Means nothing. Stop complaining.
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Posted By: hwayhzrd
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 6:47pm
chronic future wrote:
Internet Forum.Means nothing.Stop complaining.
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Actually, this is the most fun I have had in quite some time.
To know I have the power to upset people so much by merely being here!
And all I have to do is act naturally!
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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 6:47pm
chronic future wrote:
Internet Forum.Means nothing.Stop complaining.
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Bingo.
Now this whole thing got blown right out of proportion. Hway and I exchanged PMs and it was between us. Then it got posted in the mods forum. Then evil elvis took it personal that his buddy was being criticized. If everyone could drop this whole thing, restore my account to how it once was, and then move on, I'd be just fine.
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Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 6:48pm
Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 6:51pm
Cute sig LB
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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 6:56pm
hwayhzrd wrote:
Snake6 wrote:
hwayhzrd wrote:
It's not my judgement to make.
EE has his ways, I have my own.
Would that have been my choice? On a gut level, personal? Yes. Would
YOU not?
But on a responsibility to the forum level? No. Absolutely not.
However, at least I know I have one person who has my back, which is
more than I can say for a great many others here. | I don't care
how you
slice it, EE was WRONG, DEAD WRONG. He overstepped his bounds and
you know it. If Jason was still Admin EE would have been removed already
and you know it. He was way out of line, but you still support him, why?
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I never said I supported his action. You said I did. Accuracy check, please.
I do not control the Mods. If there is an issue, the Administrator will deal
with it, NOT me.
"Love the sinner, hate the sin" |
I'm Sorry if I didn't understand what you were tryiing to say, what I understood it as was that you would not have done the same thing as EE, but you think Cedric deserved it.
The problem is that the Admin is not active on this forum, so the Moderator staff needs to become a team and decide what is best for the Forum, if it means taking some of the non-active mods out of power so be it. You need to get together and make decisions. You can't depend on the Admin to make your decisions for you.
You people need to stop acting as if the whole Forum is against you, because we are not. We want what is best for the Forum also.
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Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 7:00pm
Snake6 wrote:
Hway, you are a good mod and I would hate to see you leave
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edit- agreed^^
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Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 7:03pm
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reclusivetorrid wrote:
Limited knowledge?
yeah, your one to be discussing "limited knowledge"... |
What?
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Posted By: hwayhzrd
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 7:05pm
Cedric wrote:
chronic future wrote:
Internet Forum.Means
nothing.Stop complaining.
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Bingo.
Now this whole thing got blown right out of proportion. Hway and I
exchanged PMs and it was between us. Then it got posted in the mods
forum. Then evil elvis took it personal that his buddy was being criticized.
If everyone could drop this whole thing, restore my account to how it
once was, and then move on, I'd be just fine. |
I put it there not to cause all of this, but to use it as a tool to ask my
fellow Mods if I have been out of line. Ask any of them. I try very hard
NOT to treat you guys in a bad manner.
This all spun out of control and found a life of it's own, as this little soap
opera known as the Tippmann Forum is want to do.
Cedric sent me what I percieved as a very heartfelt PM, and has impressed
the tar out of me as being a stand up guy.
It takes a man to admit he was wrong. Cedric has done so, and I am truly
sorry for my part in all of this.
Blast it all Cedric, we should have saved this for April Fools Day!
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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 7:12pm
Why do I have a feeling that a Forum Civil War is about to break out?
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Posted By: NotDaveEllis
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 7:20pm
As a moderator on another forum I feel qualified to speak here.
Checks and balances is what is needed, a notion to an action must be made and another person must agree that the action will be taken because the person clearly violated the rules and TOS, and was not just being a punk.
For instance in the mod corner, Hway could have made a thread "Dealing with Cedric"
List and link to what he did and where it breaks the rule and take appropriate action, none of this Segal crap.
I'm not taking sides because frankly I dont give a damn.
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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 7:23pm
Snake6 wrote:
Why do I have a feeling that a Forum Civil War is about to break out? |
THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN!!!!
------------- "I AM a crossdresser." -Reb Cpl
Forum Vice President
RIP T&O Forum
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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 7:24pm
Because the crazy black person was just freed and the south is suceeding.
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 7:26pm
I'd have to disagree. The mods need not justify their actions to anyone, becuase they are mods for a reason.
They weren't promoted blindly, they helped this forum in many way.
And dont say I dont know what I'm talking about... I was in the same situation with _TT_ this time last year. I disagreed with his call then, but I have wisend up to it, albeit after a long discussion with a few other mods that supported me, not him.
I dont condone, but neither do I condem, what happened to cedric. The mod that did it most likely has a legit reason for doing what he did.
Ced and I are fine now, but Ced should be happy he wasnt guested last year when I was, becuase we are in agreement that we both deserved it if one of us got it.
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Posted By: pb125
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 7:27pm
This thread makes me laugh.
Is it just me, or has the forum been "going downhill" for about 2 and a half years now? Ever since I joined that's all any of the old regs say.
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 7:27pm
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Gatyr wrote:
... and the south is suceeding. |
OMGZORZ!
I just figured out why it took so long for the South to surrender during the Civil War.
Jefferson Davis kept saying that "we are seceding", but because Southerners can't spell they kept writing it down as "we are suceeding", and they thought they were winning the war right up until the end!
:P
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 7:29pm
^^^ That, sadly, made me lol.
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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 7:30pm
hwayhzrd wrote:
chronic future wrote:
Internet Forum.Means nothing.Stop complaining.
| Actually, this is the most fun I have had in quite some time.
To know I have the power to upset people by merely being here!
And all I have to do is act naturally! | Ya, I have that problem too...
------------- "I AM a crossdresser." -Reb Cpl
Forum Vice President
RIP T&O Forum
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 7:31pm
__sneaky__ wrote:
hwayhzrd wrote:
chronic future wrote:
Internet Forum.Means nothing.Stop complaining. | Actually, this is the most fun I have had in quite some time. To know I have the power to upset people by merely being here! And all I have to do is act naturally! | Ya, I have that problem too... |
I used to... now it's pretty much quieted down except for a couple of insur... err... people.
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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 7:36pm
Clark Kent wrote:
Gatyr wrote:
... and the south is suceeding. |
OMGZORZ!
I just figured out why it took so long for the South to surrender during the Civil War.
Jefferson Davis kept saying that "we are seceding", but because
Southerners can't spell they kept writing it down as "we are
suceeding", and they thought they were winning the war right up until
the end!
:P |
I dont like lesbians.
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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 7:52pm
Ok, we have fallen away from the topic here.
We were discussing how to improve the forum...
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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 7:55pm
sencor the word sniper... I know that sounds retarded but its gotten to be that bad...
------------- "I AM a crossdresser." -Reb Cpl
Forum Vice President
RIP T&O Forum
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Posted By: the_blade
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 9:40pm
DracoPlasm wrote:
choopie911 wrote:
It's not exactly easy to just "revive" a forum, but we can try |
We can start by letting the new people in...for example when a newb
posts a topic on an old but still funny video and he gets flamed but
you chewp among many others can post basically whatever you want and
the rest of the "seniors" will laugh and make the topic ok...
These little "clicks" going around are pathetic and are killing the forum
I know if I was a new guy and I got flamed everytime I made a topic
I wouldent come back to the forum and in the long run the forum dies
when all the new guys feel unwelcome |
Perfect example right there back in the day when people came here and
asked that same old question of what barrel is the best or how do I do
this or that. New people would actually get reasonable replys back. Now
all you see is everyone saying been aswered already use the search
button. Or some whitty smart mouthed comment, usually ending up in a
flame fest. But guys we all have to also face the fact that new people
coming in most likely dont know any better. there going to ask those
same old questions that we have all seen time and time again but if you
dont want to contribute to helping some one out then dont post in that
topic. its not that hard to ignore a thread. Its also not that hard to
answer a question if you know the answer.
------------- 95 base neon 3.0 cai, knifedged crankshaft 60 mill throttle body,14 crane cam crane springs/retainers eagle rods port matched/ polished intake p&p head shaved .015 phantom grip diff dohc exuast
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Posted By: ridesnowbrdr
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 9:42pm
Gatyr wrote:
Clark Kent wrote:
Gatyr wrote:
... and the south is suceeding. |
OMGZORZ!
I just figured out why it took so long for the South to surrender during the Civil War.
Jefferson Davis kept saying that "we are seceding", but because Southerners can't spell they kept writing it down as "we are suceeding", and they thought they were winning the war right up until the end!
:P
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I dont like lesbians.
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how can you not like lesbians?!
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Posted By: the_blade
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 9:47pm
lol o god that sig is back put it away
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 10:26pm
I wasn't joking about logging off and fapping. I sense some mad sexual tension in this thread. Cedric and Hway are definitely about to do each other.
------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation."
-FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011.
Yup, he actually said that.
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Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 10:27pm
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the_blade wrote:
lol o god that sig is back put it away |
Could it be him?
Naaah.
Couldnt be
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Posted By: the_blade
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 10:59pm
ughh wheres the popemobile
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Posted By: mbro
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 11:06pm
Snake6 wrote:
Why do I have a feeling that a Forum Civil War is about to break out?
| Umm, we already had one of those about a year and a half ago and my side won. Actually it was more of a cold civil war but I won none the less.
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Anywho, I give this thread a rating of 0 MBro's.
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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 11:15pm
mbro wrote:
Snake6 wrote:
Why do I have a feeling that a Forum Civil War is about to break out?
| Umm, we already had one of those about a year and a half ago and my side won. Actually it was more of a cold civil war but I won none the less.
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That doesn't mean that there won't be another one...
If it does come to that, I would be torn. I wouldn't know which side to choose.
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Posted By: White o Light
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 11:15pm
Lightningbolt wrote:
hello =) |
Hi there! 
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 11:24pm
the_blade wrote:
ughh wheres the popemobile
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LOL, I sense a photoshop contest coming- "Pope My Ride".
------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation."
-FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011.
Yup, he actually said that.
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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 11:25pm
Thats what we need, another photoshop thread...
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E-Grip
JCS Dual Trigger
DOP X-CORE 8 stage x-chamber
Lapco Bigshot 14" Beadblasted
Optional setup:
R/T
Dead on Blade trigger
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 11:26pm
They're always good times.
I did a decent one of someone (Cedric?) about to bash a kitten's head in with a hammer yesterday...
------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation."
-FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011.
Yup, he actually said that.
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Posted By: Mehs
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 11:40pm
Start a photoshop thread!
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Squeeze Box
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 11:42pm
Maybe tomorrow.
------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation."
-FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011.
Yup, he actually said that.
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Posted By: White o Light
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 11:46pm
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Posted By: PBalla2242
Date Posted: 01 June 2006 at 11:46pm
hwayhzrd wrote:
PBalla2242 wrote:
that's what happens when you give middle-aged
dudes with too much free time a chance for importance with a little 'e-
power'. sad...but true in most cases...
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[sarcasm]Golly, I didn't see THIS one coming ... [/sarcasm] |
sorry, i just had to since i never got a chance to when you were backed into a corner and babied your way out by blocking me...try to solve problems instead of putting them aside usual.
grow up and ditch the corny sense of humor
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"As far back as I can remember, I've always wanted to be a gangster."
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