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Topic: Full Auto Non-Electronic 98c or A-5 Stock
Posted By: kman1898
Subject: Full Auto Non-Electronic 98c or A-5 Stock
Date Posted: 06 June 2006 at 7:43pm

Mortisdeum discovered a small trick that is able to turn a 98 custom into a full auto gun with the parts that are already in the gun and no real work needed.  I expanded on this and figured out how to do it on my A-5.  The A-5 is slightly more complicated but here are both ways.

Two simple things for the 98c

  1. Take out the pin that the sear rests on
  2. Extend the sear tripper on the trigger so the sear now rests in it

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/15619373110.jpg&s=f5 -

The simple things for the A-5

  1.  Take out the pin that the sear rests on.
  2. Extend the sear tripper on the trigger so the sear now rests in it.  This should look similar to the 98c.  The sear tripper is now covering the hole that the safety goes through.

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/15619384118.jpg&s=f5 - A-5

  1. Now take a dremmel tool and dremmel the bottom right part of the sear tripper.

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/15619410753.jpg&s=f5 -  Sear Tripper

The reason this works is now the trigger will hold the sear down so the bolt and hammer will not be caught on the blow back and will fly forward to cycle again. That will keep happening till the trigger is released and the sear rises back up and catches the hammer.
http://media.putfile.com/Tippmann-98-with-Full-Auto-Conversion - Here is the vid



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A-5
14" Dye Boomstick
Full Auto w/ Filed Down Sear
DOP X-Core 8 Stage Expansion Chamber
Pen Spring Mod
Blade Double Trigger



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Posted By: kman1898
Date Posted: 06 June 2006 at 7:44pm
26 BPS A bit slower then expected but with in the range of a few hoppers but a whole Q-Loader pod would be gone in less then 3.8 Sec
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/15620280762.jpg&s=f5 - Here is the pic
One thing i did notice was ther was a good bit of vibration mostly from the hammer flying back and forth 

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A-5
14" Dye Boomstick
Full Auto w/ Filed Down Sear
DOP X-Core 8 Stage Expansion Chamber
Pen Spring Mod
Blade Double Trigger


Posted By: Ralphwggm5
Date Posted: 06 June 2006 at 7:53pm
that video looked awesome... if you do it to the a-5 let us know how the cyclone puts up

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A-5
14" Bigshot
E-Grip
Palmer's Female Stabilizer
68/4500 HPA
Collapsible Stock
Coiled Remote
Polished Internals


Posted By: kman1898
Date Posted: 06 June 2006 at 8:23pm
the Cyclone was working pretty well but not amazing.  It sputtered a little.

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A-5
14" Dye Boomstick
Full Auto w/ Filed Down Sear
DOP X-Core 8 Stage Expansion Chamber
Pen Spring Mod
Blade Double Trigger


Posted By: Jmann4567
Date Posted: 06 June 2006 at 9:03pm

That was so sweet when we did that today.



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98c
Smart Parts Teardrop
Ricochet Rhino hopper
deadOn double trigger
Pen spring mod
Custom paintjob
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/16221294395.jpg&s=f5



Posted By: kman1898
Date Posted: 06 June 2006 at 9:19pm
yea it was

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A-5
14" Dye Boomstick
Full Auto w/ Filed Down Sear
DOP X-Core 8 Stage Expansion Chamber
Pen Spring Mod
Blade Double Trigger


Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 06 June 2006 at 9:37pm
That thing kicks ass.

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Posted By: jjclown23
Date Posted: 06 June 2006 at 10:40pm
You have guts to risk you gun for that.  Nice work though

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DOP Blade Trigger
Polished Internals
X-Chamber
Custom Paint
14" J&J


Posted By: Ralphwggm5
Date Posted: 06 June 2006 at 11:05pm
its not really risking the gun though, just like a $3 piece of the trigger. how fast did the a5 go?

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A-5
14" Bigshot
E-Grip
Palmer's Female Stabilizer
68/4500 HPA
Collapsible Stock
Coiled Remote
Polished Internals


Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 07 June 2006 at 12:50am
this is so old.

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Posted By: kman1898
Date Posted: 07 June 2006 at 1:27am
About 27 BPS

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A-5
14" Dye Boomstick
Full Auto w/ Filed Down Sear
DOP X-Core 8 Stage Expansion Chamber
Pen Spring Mod
Blade Double Trigger


Posted By: Woodsballer91
Date Posted: 07 June 2006 at 2:45am
how do you get your cyclone to keep up with it? I tried it and my a-5 chopped soooooooooooo much paint.

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Tippmann E-Grip
Tippmann Flatline Barrel
Spec Ops A-5A2 Stock
Spec Ops A-5A2 Foregrip
APP 300Rnd. Hopper
WAS Equalizer Board
Pure Energy Coiled Remote


Posted By: kman1898
Date Posted: 07 June 2006 at 9:08am

the Cyclone was working pretty well but not amazing.  It sputtered a little.



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A-5
14" Dye Boomstick
Full Auto w/ Filed Down Sear
DOP X-Core 8 Stage Expansion Chamber
Pen Spring Mod
Blade Double Trigger


Posted By: Snick
Date Posted: 07 June 2006 at 10:35am

this is such an old idea. when will people learn that its pointless to try and get full auto. shooting 25 bps is worthless if your gun goes out of control and has no consistancy and chops paint and can't shoot accuratly to safe your life and the life of your entire family. if you really want full auto go buy an ape boarded e-grip, that way its atleast regulated some, not free firing at its own pace.



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Posted By: Squishey
Date Posted: 07 June 2006 at 8:51pm
buy an r/t or e grip. good luck feeding that monster.

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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 07 June 2006 at 10:55pm

feeding is an easy decision. qloader seens to be only choice unless you like spending tons to upgrade a hopper\



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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 08 June 2006 at 1:22am
Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

feeding is an easy decision. qloader seens to be only choice unless you like spending tons to upgrade a hopper\

even a qloader will only keep up for a little bit.

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Posted By: Jmann4567
Date Posted: 08 June 2006 at 12:41pm
even if it did the whole pod would be gone in a matter of seconds.

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98c
Smart Parts Teardrop
Ricochet Rhino hopper
deadOn double trigger
Pen spring mod
Custom paintjob
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/16221294395.jpg&s=f5



Posted By: jrod1321
Date Posted: 09 June 2006 at 9:48pm
ill try this when i get my new super r/t parts....ill try it while i got the gun apart, ill be using a halob with victory board on setting six..ill let u no how it turns out

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Ariakon Overlord
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Posted By: DsXz
Date Posted: 10 June 2006 at 8:30am
qloader loading speeds depend on how you mount it, the more tube+bends the slower it feeds. If you direct mount it itll feed 25 without a sweat.

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Posted By: kman1898
Date Posted: 14 June 2006 at 6:02pm
i just did the mod again and the cyclone kept up completly

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A-5
14" Dye Boomstick
Full Auto w/ Filed Down Sear
DOP X-Core 8 Stage Expansion Chamber
Pen Spring Mod
Blade Double Trigger


Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 14 June 2006 at 6:49pm
bps or cps? if its cps, you can't be too sure...

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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 14 June 2006 at 7:23pm
i just thought of something...  if all you used was reballs, this mod might be slightly plausible...

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Posted By: ringer706
Date Posted: 15 June 2006 at 10:44pm
i cant even begin to tell you how bad that is for your valve.  Keep that up and you'll need a new one in a very short period of time.

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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 16 June 2006 at 1:52am

i demand pics of your F/A...

edit: nvm. i just found your post in the gallery. very nice gun indeed!



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Posted By: Sticky111
Date Posted: 25 June 2006 at 12:00pm
the damage you are doing to your ..............everything internal.

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Posted By: God Of War
Date Posted: 25 June 2006 at 7:06pm
how is that doing damage?

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98custom
14" Proggressive barrel
20 oz C02 tank
R/T kit
EmpireII auto hopper


Posted By: kman1898
Date Posted: 28 June 2006 at 4:52pm
Originally posted by Sticky111 Sticky111 wrote:

the damage you are doing to your ..............everything internal.
ya in what way is it damaging my gun its just like shooting and e-grip

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A-5
14" Dye Boomstick
Full Auto w/ Filed Down Sear
DOP X-Core 8 Stage Expansion Chamber
Pen Spring Mod
Blade Double Trigger


Posted By: AlienA-5
Date Posted: 29 June 2006 at 12:12pm

....silence....



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Posted By: kinnielson
Date Posted: 02 July 2006 at 1:33pm
Blender mod,, very old

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Posted By: Markle
Date Posted: 16 July 2006 at 12:09pm
wow

your crazy to try to do that considering you could have ruined you gun but wow nice job


Posted By: FarSeer
Date Posted: 16 July 2006 at 2:18pm
Dead threads like their graves. Don't rouse them.

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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 17 July 2006 at 4:50am
Originally posted by kman1898 kman1898 wrote:

Originally posted by Sticky111 Sticky111 wrote:

the damage you are doing to your ..............everything internal.
ya in what way is it damaging my gun its just like shooting and e-grip
no it isn't.  you are killing your sear, rear bolt, ect. ...   this mod cycles much faster than the e-grip ever thought of shooting.  the e-grip was made for the tippmann, however, this was not.

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Posted By: Brettman24
Date Posted: 17 July 2006 at 7:07pm
exactly

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Halo B w/rip drive
16" All-American Barrel
68/4500 pure energy tank
WGP Black Magic regulator
camo paintjob


Posted By: pooperscooper
Date Posted: 18 July 2006 at 9:42pm
Technically you are doing no damage to either the sear or the rear bolt.

Wear is happening at the same rate per shot as it usually does, actually less on the sear and the rear bolt, since they are not touching.

You guys should try to think more before posting

PS I do not recommend this mod though, it just doesnt seem good for the gun, even though i cant find a reason why.

PPS Someone should try this on an ACT 98c using a halo B with victory board.


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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 19 July 2006 at 6:23am
Originally posted by pooperscooper pooperscooper wrote:

Technically you are doing no damage to either the sear or the rear bolt.

Wear is happening at the same rate per shot as it usually does, actually less on the sear and the rear bolt, since they are not touching.

You guys should try to think more before posting

PS I do not recommend this mod though, it just doesnt seem good for the gun, even though i cant find a reason why.

PPS Someone should try this on an ACT 98c using a halo B with victory board.
you're wearing out the internals any way you look at it.  it's like having intercourse 60 times a second... it's not good for you...

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Posted By: pooperscooper
Date Posted: 19 July 2006 at 10:50am
Yes but shot to shot you are getting the same amount of wear as usual.

Actually, less, because the sear isnt catching the hammer.


Quote it's like having intercourse 60 times a second... it's not good for you...


Intercourse is an odd way to put it.

That would be a good sig 

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Posted By: Mugger
Date Posted: 19 July 2006 at 4:30pm
good blender mod. now you can take the paint that runs out of the barrel and make paint grenades


Posted By: Kilo0331
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 3:39pm

I am all about the Full Auto stuff......but this mod is no good. It causes the gun to cycle way too fast......i tried it out.......q-loader couldn't keep up w/ it. If you were to modify the gun a little.......maybe extend the rear end so the bolt has a farther to travel or even a heavier bolt, that would slow down your ROF to make this work.



Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 6:03pm
ah yes... the blender mod. have fun chopping more paint then you knew was possible.

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Posted By: TEHGANGSTER
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 12:36am
yup, its fun, hey kids, if you ever wanted the paintball shotgun mod, use this with a revvy! it shoots out paint like a hose.....


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Posted By: sniper6
Date Posted: 07 August 2006 at 12:46am
the site says a Q can go 30 a second, but yeah, just get an E-grip with an APE board. The APE is better than the WAS, there is a site that compares them but I can't remember what it is, anyway the APE is waterproof and I think it says the WAS isnt which is HUGE ig you're playing woodsball.


Posted By: METALGEAR
Date Posted: 07 August 2006 at 8:30pm
Pshh.I tried it. and my cyclone can't keep it up, and I dont have regulater so my gun would go off crazy.



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