Tippmann isnt good enough?
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Topic: Tippmann isnt good enough?
Posted By: thornygravy
Subject: Tippmann isnt good enough?
Date Posted: 11 June 2006 at 2:56pm
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Hello, i went to my local paintball shop, and i while i was getting my HPA tanks filled, i decided to make conversation at the register man. I asked him if he knew any feilds, and he said woodsball? and i said no speedball. He said well wut gun do u have, i said a tippmann. He started to laugh and said tippmanns suck, and held up a DM6. He said this will blow any tippmann away. My question is, do you think that he was saying this to buy a better gun, or because its true? thx ------------- -Tippy 98c -Polished Interns. -RD Double Trig. -5'' Drop -j+j ceram 14'' -12v revy x-board -SmartParts Grips -Pen Spring Mod -Milled Rear Sight -Filled Front Grip -Blue Paint job |
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Posted By: knukclez
Date Posted: 11 June 2006 at 3:00pm
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it's both. i have a dealer that did the same exact thing to me the other day. he gave me all this B-S and showed me a catalog with a shocker in it and said its the beast of all paintball guns and how bad tippmanns suck. me and all my friends were appauled.. this guy was like 50. i think it was both him trying to get you to buy his merchendise and his hate for tippmanns. I will post a video of how fast an accurate my tippmann is. i bet it wont blow me away ill post it tonight. around 1030 in marker gallery LONG LIVE TIPPMANNS! ------------- Tippmann Custom Pro-E Polished Internals Custom Mill/Paint Job 16" Rifeled SP Barrel A-6 Stock QEV Cyclone Feed System Chroned at 18 Balls a Second |
Posted By: thornygravy
Date Posted: 11 June 2006 at 3:12pm
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nice post, by the way, do u live in new york?? because the guy who said this to me was 50 too. ------------- -Tippy 98c -Polished Interns. -RD Double Trig. -5'' Drop -j+j ceram 14'' -12v revy x-board -SmartParts Grips -Pen Spring Mod -Milled Rear Sight -Filled Front Grip -Blue Paint job |
Posted By: knukclez
Date Posted: 11 June 2006 at 3:17pm
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no i live in ohio. haha ------------- Tippmann Custom Pro-E Polished Internals Custom Mill/Paint Job 16" Rifeled SP Barrel A-6 Stock QEV Cyclone Feed System Chroned at 18 Balls a Second |
Posted By: MeanMan
Date Posted: 11 June 2006 at 3:41pm
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NE ohio? but, not many people think tippys belong on the speedball field. I myself absolutly did not like my tippy at all, just wasnt for me ------------- 
hybrid-sniper~"To be honest, if I see a player still using an Impulse I'm going to question their motives." |
Posted By: knukclez
Date Posted: 11 June 2006 at 3:48pm
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yeap NE. I live in Warren. Not all tippys could hand on the speedball field. mine could, but i dont play speedball. i wouldnt perfer a tippy for speedball anyways. they're too bulky and heavy. if i were playing speedball id want a light compact fast SOB. I play scenerio. Hostage/war situations. ------------- Tippmann Custom Pro-E Polished Internals Custom Mill/Paint Job 16" Rifeled SP Barrel A-6 Stock QEV Cyclone Feed System Chroned at 18 Balls a Second |
Posted By: glazener24
Date Posted: 11 June 2006 at 10:39pm
| Of course a DM6 is better than any Tippy... |
Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 11 June 2006 at 10:43pm
So True. ------------- 
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glazener24 wrote:Posted By: jjclown23
Date Posted: 12 June 2006 at 12:21am
The dealer was just makin fun of you... ------------- A-5 Response Trigger DOP Blade Trigger Polished Internals X-Chamber Custom Paint 14" J&J |
Posted By: WILD4WAR
Date Posted: 12 June 2006 at 12:23am
A tippmann will out last any gun on the market to day and if you all do not like tippmann guns then why do you all post on this forums? It may be a good gun for speedball but it would not last one day with me in the woods.------------- GO MILSIM OR GO HOME! 
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 12 June 2006 at 12:38am
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here's the thing, while many guns may be better than a tippy, a tippy has potential. with an e-bolt, a tippy can keep up with the rest of them (for the most part). also, they are a heckuvalot cheaper. so it depends on where you are trying to go. if you are constantly speedballin, you might want to upgrade, if you are semi-constantly speedballin, you could just ebay an e-bolt. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell" 
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Posted By: glazener24
Date Posted: 12 June 2006 at 12:45am
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I do like Tippmann, but I am a realist, I know and accept that there are guns out there that are far better than mine. There is no sense in denying the obvious.
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 12 June 2006 at 12:59am
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you should listen. bruce, gpacker, glazener, and tigman have some of the best 98c's on the forum... ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: thornygravy
Date Posted: 12 June 2006 at 1:45pm
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I just think the guy just asumed i had a stock tippy, by the way i was talking. He shouldnt asume tho cuz he had no idea. ------------- -Tippy 98c -Polished Interns. -RD Double Trig. -5'' Drop -j+j ceram 14'' -12v revy x-board -SmartParts Grips -Pen Spring Mod -Milled Rear Sight -Filled Front Grip -Blue Paint job |
Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 12 June 2006 at 2:51pm
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It doesn't matter. A DM will be better than any Tippmann on the speedball field any day. To be honest with you, if what is in your sig is what you have, a DM will blow your marker out of the water. Glazner's, or Gpacker's, or Bruce's 98c's may stand a chance, but yours would not. -------------
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Posted By: thornygravy
Date Posted: 12 June 2006 at 3:58pm
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Then how come it does stand a chance??? ive gotten people that had DM6s. and ive gotten marines from west point, its all bout aiming and stealth, not how many luck shoots u can spray.. ------------- -Tippy 98c -Polished Interns. -RD Double Trig. -5'' Drop -j+j ceram 14'' -12v revy x-board -SmartParts Grips -Pen Spring Mod -Milled Rear Sight -Filled Front Grip -Blue Paint job |
Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 12 June 2006 at 4:54pm
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It is about sealth in the woods. It is not about stealth in speedball. As for aiming, high-end markers are normally more accurate than low end markers. On an X-Ball field, you Tippmann will not be small enough, or fast enough to keep up with high-end markers. It if were able to compete on that level, everyone would have a Tippmann, and companies would not make high-end guns. Also Marines don't come from West Point. West Point is an Army establisment. Try again.
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 12 June 2006 at 4:57pm
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And stealth has nothing to do with the gun (except, of course, that a DM6 is MUCH quieter than any Tippmann). A good gun won't make you a better player, but that doesn't mean that one gun can't be better than another gun. No, Tippmanns don't suck. But yes, a DM6 is "better" than the vast majority of Tippmanns out there, in most situations. |
Posted By: thornygravy
Date Posted: 12 June 2006 at 5:12pm
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^^^ Amen o yea, and it is about stealth in speedball too, by sneaking up on people.. the element of surprize.. ------------- -Tippy 98c -Polished Interns. -RD Double Trig. -5'' Drop -j+j ceram 14'' -12v revy x-board -SmartParts Grips -Pen Spring Mod -Milled Rear Sight -Filled Front Grip -Blue Paint job |
Posted By: glazener24
Date Posted: 12 June 2006 at 8:45pm
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Thanks man, she will be missed. |
Posted By: tippya5extreme
Date Posted: 12 June 2006 at 9:09pm
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tippmann all the way - if you want speed you could get 25bps. out of your gun ------------- http://imageshack.us"> 
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Posted By: glazener24
Date Posted: 12 June 2006 at 9:54pm
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There are more things that make a gun good than just speed. |
Posted By: super_gman
Date Posted: 12 June 2006 at 10:24pm
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Don't listen to the store owner. I have an A-5 with an E-Grip, and I have taken people who shoot Protos, Timmies, and ICD guns. As far as I'm concerned, my gun is just as "high-end" as theirs are. ------------- Zerglet. |
Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 12 June 2006 at 10:53pm
If you believe that, then you arent playing speedball right. Its chess, and you shouldnt be able to sneak up on someone in an open field. There is no element of surprise in speedball, unless you dont get seen making a move, in which case you just chose the best time and way to make it.
Christ man, so you are better than those people, or you got lucky. Good for you. Their (and your) skill level has nothing to do with what you shoot, and when people say "well I have shott so many people with blah and all I have is blah blah", I take it as they really are concerned about ther markers as being inferior to the people's they have shot.
I love this generalization. Its as good as me saying "well I like speedball, its not all sit back and snipe like a war verteran wannabe" ------------- 
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Posted By: super_gman
Date Posted: 12 June 2006 at 11:10pm
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Gatyr, I am by no means concerned about my gun being inferior to theirs. If anything, I feel completely the opposite. The objective of my post was to say that, if anything, my gun is just as high-performing as my opponents'. There is no reason for people, such as that store owner, to bash guns that don't carry a price tag of $1200. ------------- Zerglet. |
Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 12 June 2006 at 11:23pm
 And there is no reason for people to feel anything towards their gun based on who they shoot. Your shooting them says nothing about either of the guns used in the process. -------------
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Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 12 June 2006 at 11:24pm
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Thorn, basically they're right. If you want to be really competative most tippmanns don't cut it. If you have enough skill you can usually hold you own, but when comparing the guns themselves the high end ones have it all over tippmanns. "Sneaking up on people" isn't really a priority in a speedball game. If you're going to consistantly do well in speedball you need to be able to control lanes, high ROF helps this. If they can't so much as poke their finger out from behind a bunker without getting shot you may have a chance to bunker them. Controlling the field and communication are key in speedball. Snake is also right, west point is an Army school which trains Army officers. Not Marines. If you're going to brag about shooting out some military guy get the branch of service right. Also, everyone occasionally gets shot out in speedball, so that's no big deal. Their training is much different from speedball, so it's expected. Besides, if he's not infantry he's probably not too well trained anyways. |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 13 June 2006 at 12:34am
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ollie lang with a talon will still beat a 10 year old with an angel. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 13 June 2006 at 5:48am
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tippmann's arn't the most durable paintball markers in the market today. PGPs are. and Phantoms.... (i'd know, i own both) but anyway, i would choose an electro tippy 98 with a centerfeed over a dm anyday.... 98s are more compact from the business angle.... most dms feel like i'm lucking around a plank of wood with a handle attatched. and imho, i wouldn't waste my money on any dye matrix or a shocker... shockers break down way too much... and dms are just so overrated it's not even funny. the captain on my team shoots a proto, and i admit it's nice, but i just don't think they are "teh omg! uberpwnzorz" ------------- X |
Posted By: thornygravy
Date Posted: 13 June 2006 at 3:01pm
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well if thats the way u see it. I think that if u know the field and how to play right, u could probably do good with a stock rental 98c, better then a bunch of noobs that have egos or dm6s and just sit and blast off balls. ------------- -Tippy 98c -Polished Interns. -RD Double Trig. -5'' Drop -j+j ceram 14'' -12v revy x-board -SmartParts Grips -Pen Spring Mod -Milled Rear Sight -Filled Front Grip -Blue Paint job |
Posted By: glazener24
Date Posted: 13 June 2006 at 9:42pm
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I'd be willing to bet that there are more noobs with Tippys than there are with DM6's, Egos, etc. |
Posted By: super_gman
Date Posted: 13 June 2006 at 10:32pm
I'm not too sure about that. There are quite a few spoiled rich kids around here who have their parents get whatever they want for them. ------------- Zerglet. |
Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 13 June 2006 at 10:49pm
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I will bet you any amount of money that overall theere are more players with less than 6 months experiance with tippmanns than there are with high-end markers.
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Posted By: MeanMan
Date Posted: 14 June 2006 at 4:24pm
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your speedball games must be REALLY bad, cause when i play, you cant usually move "secretly", without someone knowing, unless the whole other team is filling there hopper and not looking, which never happens if you play against tournament grade players like me.
and knucklez i live in North Royalton, i dont reallly know where Warren is, but ive heard of it -------------
hybrid-sniper~"To be honest, if I see a player still using an Impulse I'm going to question their motives." |
Posted By: thornygravy
Date Posted: 14 June 2006 at 4:30pm
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HA! quit fooling yourself ------------- -Tippy 98c -Polished Interns. -RD Double Trig. -5'' Drop -j+j ceram 14'' -12v revy x-board -SmartParts Grips -Pen Spring Mod -Milled Rear Sight -Filled Front Grip -Blue Paint job |
Posted By: glazener24
Date Posted: 14 June 2006 at 4:39pm
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Seriously. |
Posted By: thornygravy
Date Posted: 14 June 2006 at 4:41pm
lol ------------- -Tippy 98c -Polished Interns. -RD Double Trig. -5'' Drop -j+j ceram 14'' -12v revy x-board -SmartParts Grips -Pen Spring Mod -Milled Rear Sight -Filled Front Grip -Blue Paint job |
Posted By: pimptastik
Date Posted: 15 June 2006 at 12:50pm
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when it comes to speed ball its all about rolling ur guns. the tippy
wont keep up with a DM any time ever. a tippy is a nice starter gun
good reliable can take a nice beating. but once u start playing air
ball ur tippmann will be to long to do u good u need something tight
and small and alot faster. ------------- <no ginormous sigs please> |
Posted By: warhead
Date Posted: 19 June 2006 at 2:05am
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ive seen a stock class team rip apart a high end gun speed ball team on sup air... its the player not the gun ------------- CCI - VSC Phantom - Tiger Stripe Anno CCI - Duckslide Dropout Phantom |
Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 19 June 2006 at 2:27am
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Posted By: MeanMan
Date Posted: 19 June 2006 at 12:16pm
thorny, i could get a strike now, but i wont, if you read my post, it doesnt say that, "if you play WITH tournament grade players, like me" get it right uh oh, im skipping lines like thorny now -------------
hybrid-sniper~"To be honest, if I see a player still using an Impulse I'm going to question their motives." |
Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 19 June 2006 at 1:59pm
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The main stumbling block for Tippmanns are the heavy internals which means heavy recoil. This leads to inaccuracy compared to many other guns. Sometimes it's just fun to pull the trigger on a 98 and have the gun bouncing around all over the place in your hands. |
Posted By: Hairball!!!
Date Posted: 19 June 2006 at 7:47pm
What about an Automag? |
Posted By: TDonovan
Date Posted: 19 June 2006 at 9:40pm
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Depends, they're both rock solid.
I haven't been on these forums in a long time. I was just fooling around and seeing if I could pick up an electric sear tripping 98c since they have those kits now instead of ebolts. I thought it'd be real fun to put my proto in the bag and come out with a 98c on full auto with my VLocity. Even better if I had one with PSP ramping. It'd be a solid loaner gun and fun to play with. Overall... A tippmann is not even close to as good as a dm6, you'd be nuts to think so. It might be able to throw paint as fast with upgrades, but otherwise they are in 2 different leagues. Anyone that thinks otherwise has probably not shot another gun. |
Posted By: -VeX-
Date Posted: 20 June 2006 at 7:42am
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-refering to origninal post- when i was getting my first gun i went to my proshop (one of them) and asked the guy some questions.. i said i wanted to get the spyder rodeo and he just laughed at me and said "Why?" ig its all about preference tippmann ftw at woodsball tho |
Posted By: pimptastik
Date Posted: 20 June 2006 at 7:36pm
Viking? small light (when milled) fast. ------------- <no ginormous sigs please> |
Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 21 June 2006 at 2:37am
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i'd keep an e-tippmann as a backup marker...seeing as everytime i go paintballing, someones marker breaks... better than nothing... ------------- X |
Posted By: henmar77
Date Posted: 23 June 2006 at 2:53pm
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Yeah, you DM lovers are right it doesnt stand a chance on the speedball field. Thats why there are two perfessional teams that use Tippmanns. ------------- Shoot first, ask questions later! |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 23 June 2006 at 3:17pm
| "Pro" teams use whatever equipment their sponsors tell them to... |
Posted By: MeanMan
Date Posted: 23 June 2006 at 4:27pm
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i bet this gets to be 5 pages -------------
hybrid-sniper~"To be honest, if I see a player still using an Impulse I'm going to question their motives." |
Posted By: thornygravy
Date Posted: 25 June 2006 at 9:53am
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yea.. i wish it wouldnt. lol i apologize bout wut i said before buddy. ------------- -Tippy 98c -Polished Interns. -RD Double Trig. -5'' Drop -j+j ceram 14'' -12v revy x-board -SmartParts Grips -Pen Spring Mod -Milled Rear Sight -Filled Front Grip -Blue Paint job |
Posted By: Squishey
Date Posted: 25 June 2006 at 10:26pm
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the guy at my pro shop thinks tippmanns are the best guns for woodsball and timmy's are the best speedball guns. which i agree i wouldn't care for a tippmann if i was playing speedball i'd want a evil pimp or something like that.
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Posted By: pbman18
Date Posted: 26 June 2006 at 12:12am
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LMAO |
Posted By: thornygravy
Date Posted: 26 June 2006 at 9:48am
Well, i somewhat agree with the dealer making fun of me cuz he we being very rude, and i was just holding it in. i didnt feel like talking to him. but of course my stupid mom had to say "My son has a tippmann, are there any speedball fields around here" ------------- -Tippy 98c -Polished Interns. -RD Double Trig. -5'' Drop -j+j ceram 14'' -12v revy x-board -SmartParts Grips -Pen Spring Mod -Milled Rear Sight -Filled Front Grip -Blue Paint job |
Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 26 June 2006 at 8:44pm
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^i lol'd kinda ------------- X |
Posted By: thornygravy
Date Posted: 27 June 2006 at 4:12pm
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at me or wut my mom said? ------------- -Tippy 98c -Polished Interns. -RD Double Trig. -5'' Drop -j+j ceram 14'' -12v revy x-board -SmartParts Grips -Pen Spring Mod -Milled Rear Sight -Filled Front Grip -Blue Paint job |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 27 June 2006 at 6:16pm
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this thread offends me. im sueing. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 27 June 2006 at 6:58pm
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Kinda interesting how they aren't D1, or D2, D3 (right...?) and they are not even very good for a D3 team! Tippmann sponsors them. The team will use whatever "free" gear they are given. |
Posted By: thornygravy
Date Posted: 27 June 2006 at 7:28pm
want my insurance company? ------------- -Tippy 98c -Polished Interns. -RD Double Trig. -5'' Drop -j+j ceram 14'' -12v revy x-board -SmartParts Grips -Pen Spring Mod -Milled Rear Sight -Filled Front Grip -Blue Paint job |
Posted By: red_alert406
Date Posted: 27 June 2006 at 7:39pm
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what a great thread i love it! |
Posted By: thornygravy
Date Posted: 28 June 2006 at 12:47pm
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lol its getting no where ------------- -Tippy 98c -Polished Interns. -RD Double Trig. -5'' Drop -j+j ceram 14'' -12v revy x-board -SmartParts Grips -Pen Spring Mod -Milled Rear Sight -Filled Front Grip -Blue Paint job |
Posted By: Rico's Revenge
Date Posted: 28 June 2006 at 1:31pm
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The shop owner was right and wrong... He was 100% wrong to bash anything... it is not his decision as to what market you choose to use. He was right about the DM6 being a superior marker. I love Tippys, so this is not a cut on them. However, I base my comment on the following: Size... get into a snake with both markers... which one would help you stay concealed? The design of the Tippmann is old. The configuration is not condusive to todays style of play which is more open and in smaller confines. Weight... duh. Anyone picked up a fully modded 98 recently? BPS... you can get a Tippy to run close to the BPS of the DM6, but not nearly as dependably. This has alot to do with the blow-back design and more importantly the feed design. Even with a center-feed and a force-fed hopper, the Tippy still does not feed as well as the DM6 because it was never designed for it. Chop city. Operating Pressure... 75 psi compared to 400 psi (with an LP kit) Efficiency... how many pods can you dump from the same air source with each? Sound... the Tippy is loud, thats just the way it is. The excess noise gives away your position and limits what you can hear (Teammates, opposing players, etc...) Maintenance... routine maintenance on a DM6 comes down to greasing the bolt which screws apart into 3 peices. (actually, you don't even need to disassemble the bolt to grease it) With the Tipmmann... 6 screws to break apart the clamshell, don't lose the detent! Dangit, the stupid front sight spring popped out! Ah, man, how did those pins go back in again? etc... My conclusion is pretty obvious as to which is the better marker. As for the price difference... how different is it REALLY after you completely mod the Tippy? Stock marker + E-Bolt + LP Kit + Internals + Upgraded board + Eyes + Centerfeed + Trigger + Regulator + LP Regulator, etc... do the math on that. ------------- "Thats right, I play pump... your girlfriend borrowed my last set of batteries." "How many times a second are you going to miss me before I shoot you?" Dave Ellis Rocks!!! |
Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 28 June 2006 at 4:41pm
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it's more fun to shoot someone while using a tippmann though... ------------- X |
Posted By: thornygravy
Date Posted: 28 June 2006 at 10:19pm
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booyah to that ------------- -Tippy 98c -Polished Interns. -RD Double Trig. -5'' Drop -j+j ceram 14'' -12v revy x-board -SmartParts Grips -Pen Spring Mod -Milled Rear Sight -Filled Front Grip -Blue Paint job |
Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 29 June 2006 at 7:17am
Well, it's obvious you haven't held my A-5 then. LOL ------------- 
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Posted By: Dan db09
Date Posted: 29 June 2006 at 3:36pm
| Both reasons... He probably wanted you to be interested in the DM6... Also he laughed because Tippy's aren't the best speedball guns but they can be one... I've seen many Tippmann speedball guns.. |
Posted By: Lt_Dan22
Date Posted: 29 June 2006 at 8:13pm
| Tippmanns don't suck, they are the best for what they are made to do,woodsball. I'm not saying you can't use a tippmann in speedball, i've come 2nd in a speedball tourney against guys with insane speedball guns, but if you want to have that edge against the other players in speedball, and if you have the CA$H, you might consider getting the DM6. |
Posted By: Lt_Dan22
Date Posted: 29 June 2006 at 8:17pm
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I'd like to see a tippmann and a DM?, side by side, thrown in sand, mud and water and see which one works better after, this will prove that tipmmans are made for woodsball, not for speedball, as for the DM6, it is obviously a speedball gun |
Posted By: tippya5extreme
Date Posted: 29 June 2006 at 9:32pm
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no gun can beet tippmanns i think, tippmanns are so reliable unlike high tech guns who need to be pamperd. seriously you can throw tippmanns on the ground and run overthem, the onlything your going to do to them is scratch some paint or possably reck your egrip or other upgraded devices. Shure tippmanns could be used for speed ball. Im getting a 22bps even flow right now. ive played many speedball games and yes, i dont have the best gun out there but i know its going to last. -i saw a tourney on tv and during the speedball tourney this guys gun stoped working. -now, if he had a tippmann (not saying that perfessional speedball players should have tippmanns) that wouldn't of happend. if you upgrade your tippmann it could be light, fast, dependable,..ect...all im saying is, tippmanns ALL THE WAY BABY! ------------- http://imageshack.us">
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Posted By: thornygravy
Date Posted: 29 June 2006 at 10:14pm
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your wrong there, tippmanns are heavy compared to the average gun, and upgrading adds weight. my tippy weighs 13 pounds (with an empty tank and empty hopper), and its pretty mech. ------------- -Tippy 98c -Polished Interns. -RD Double Trig. -5'' Drop -j+j ceram 14'' -12v revy x-board -SmartParts Grips -Pen Spring Mod -Milled Rear Sight -Filled Front Grip -Blue Paint job |
Posted By: tippya5extreme
Date Posted: 29 June 2006 at 10:19pm
wrong, polished internels, lighter powertube and bolt ------------- http://imageshack.us">
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Posted By: thornygravy
Date Posted: 29 June 2006 at 10:20pm
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lol polished internals does very minor weight reductions.. like an oz or 2? Plus, even with that stuff tippmanns are still heavy guns. ------------- -Tippy 98c -Polished Interns. -RD Double Trig. -5'' Drop -j+j ceram 14'' -12v revy x-board -SmartParts Grips -Pen Spring Mod -Milled Rear Sight -Filled Front Grip -Blue Paint job |
Posted By: tippya5extreme
Date Posted: 29 June 2006 at 11:37pm
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there not to me, ps: whats that game ware you test your bps? ------------- http://imageshack.us">
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 30 June 2006 at 12:37am
Polishing the internals removes paint dust. The stock powertube weighs about as as much as a handfull of pennies. The front bolt weighs next to nothing, but I guess with the reaer bolt you could shave off a little weight...
Really though if weight is a problem you need to hit the gym or consider buying a different gun, depending on the circumstances. |
Posted By: thornygravy
Date Posted: 30 June 2006 at 7:58am
bravo. ------------- -Tippy 98c -Polished Interns. -RD Double Trig. -5'' Drop -j+j ceram 14'' -12v revy x-board -SmartParts Grips -Pen Spring Mod -Milled Rear Sight -Filled Front Grip -Blue Paint job |
Posted By: Rico's Revenge
Date Posted: 30 June 2006 at 10:13am
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Not necessarily the case though... weight can play a HUGE part in your game. It matters when you are making a 30 yd sprint on break! It REALLY matters when you are snapshooting because of the mass that you have to get moving to snap out and then reverse directions to snap back in. Running and snapshooting are not Speedball only related... they are basic paintball skills. Any advantage you can gain here should be looked at. ------------- "Thats right, I play pump... your girlfriend borrowed my last set of batteries." "How many times a second are you going to miss me before I shoot you?" Dave Ellis Rocks!!! |
Posted By: Rico's Revenge
Date Posted: 30 June 2006 at 10:24am
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As for reliability, a tippy with an E-Grip/Bolt has the same issues as a DM, Shocker, Ego, etc... electronics. Which reminds me a a fond memory: I played a tourney in the rain and the mud on the field was about 8" deep... on break people would lose their shoes because they were stuck!! Not that it mattered, you couldn't hit anything farther than about 10' in front of you anyway! Good times! **Edit... btw, I shot my DM4 through all of that and it never once chopped or went down... there were barrel breaks, but not a single ball broke in the gun itself.
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 30 June 2006 at 12:47pm
Like I said though, if you need the maneuverability of a lighter gun you may want to consider a new marker.
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Posted By: Zirlian_1788
Date Posted: 01 July 2006 at 11:51am
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Not true. Take an Ion and drop a Blackheart board or Virtue for around $300 total and you have a gun thats as good as any other gun for the same amount of money. ------------- >Smart Parts Ion >Tippmann A-5 http://xgunslingerx.piczo.com - Team Adrenaline Rush |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 01 July 2006 at 2:14pm
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oh yeah, touche. i completely forgot about the ion. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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anyway, as compared to the dm series, except for the old matrixes, e-bolted tippmanns are for the most part a lot cheaper. e-bolted tippmanns fall into their own class, with, i think, old 'trixes, bko's, and some other "low-high-end" guns.Posted By: thornygravy
Date Posted: 01 July 2006 at 4:59pm
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yea, it probably chops more tho. ------------- -Tippy 98c -Polished Interns. -RD Double Trig. -5'' Drop -j+j ceram 14'' -12v revy x-board -SmartParts Grips -Pen Spring Mod -Milled Rear Sight -Filled Front Grip -Blue Paint job |
Posted By: thornygravy
Date Posted: 01 July 2006 at 5:00pm
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you win the bet EDIT: sorry for double post ------------- -Tippy 98c -Polished Interns. -RD Double Trig. -5'' Drop -j+j ceram 14'' -12v revy x-board -SmartParts Grips -Pen Spring Mod -Milled Rear Sight -Filled Front Grip -Blue Paint job |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 01 July 2006 at 5:46pm
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bko's are practacly blenders. the best of the group i listed would probably be a $450 (in good condition) vision matrix. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 02 July 2006 at 6:10pm
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You guys are goin about most of this all wrong. Ofcourse a high end gun is going to be better than a Tippmann, a stock tippmann or a tippmann with basic ups. A tippmann can be made to be as good, if not better (due to reliability etc) as high end guns with the proper modifications, but the issue then becomes the fact that you likely payed twice as much to make your tippmann as good as the used matrix you could have bought. Considering the 98custom/custom pro (OBVIOUSLY with ACT, take that people who say it will chop more!) all you need is a good barrel, reg, LPK, e-bolt system, and centerfeed with a halo or something. Voila, it now works just as well as the high end guns, maybe a little more of a pain due to the amount you need to take apart for maintainance. Considering the A-5, you can build a custom e-bolt fairly simply if you have the money for it, then add the same ups as the 98, except maybe a QEV/vortex mod instead of centerfeed... but that's preferece. In my oppinion, this means the tippmann guns will easily work just as well as the high end ones, but they'll end up costing atleast close to just as much... by the time you spend the money to make it that good you could have got a used electro. I would also personally prefer to have a upped tippmann over a matrix etc. because i know it will perform in woodsball and speedball, and I am simply a lover of Tippmann. Another oppinion of mine is that it really isn't necessarry to get all those ups (like e-bolt, etc) in order to compete with higher end guns. The e-grip, though still a sear tripper, will still fire the gun much faster than it is humanly possible to pull the trigger. Slap a high quality barrel, feeder, and airsystem on the gun, and you'll easily keep up. It won't be as good, have more recoil and be heavier as well as some other minor things, but if you're a good player, it won't matter. Two equally skilled players, one with a 98 or A-5, e-grip, loader that keeps up, air system, reg, nice barrel, and the other with just about any high end electro with a reg, air system, nice barrel, and fast feeder, will likely tie the game. If not, the electro will likely have a very small edge, though it is in reality a much better gun in "bench tests" Just my opinion... i've only fired a few high end guns, my a-5, and a 98. To me at this point, my a-5 is as good as any high end gun... essentially what I'm saying is it's at the point where I wouldn't want to trade it, but there are much better things out there. ------------- Tippmann A-5 Polished Internals E-Grip Ape Board JCS Blade Trigger QEV 8" Bigshot + Apex Ricochet R-5 / Tac Cap Palmers Stabilizer 68/4500 Crossfire |
Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 03 July 2006 at 4:10am
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Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 05 July 2006 at 8:08pm
The a-5 really isn't all that heavy, even maxed out, unless you mil-sim the crap out of it. ------------- Tippmann A-5 Polished Internals E-Grip Ape Board JCS Blade Trigger QEV 8" Bigshot + Apex Ricochet R-5 / Tac Cap Palmers Stabilizer 68/4500 Crossfire |
Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 05 July 2006 at 8:22pm
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The "Tippmanns are more reliable than other guns" argument is bogus. Try all you want, Tippmanns have way too much recoil to compete with expensive "tourney guns" sorry the truth hurts sometimes |
Posted By: paintballinbill
Date Posted: 07 July 2006 at 9:30am
mine, nor my brother's gun has ever broken down. i've had my 98 for over 4 years now, and my brother has had his for 2. i've only taken apart the gun to other than that, i put a few drops of oil in my ASA and dry fire about 10 times before and after each game, and THAT'S IT. i'd bet that no high-end gun can do that. and keep in mind, i play at least twice a month, from early spring until it gets too cold in the fall. edit: and what's with recoil? yeah, my gun does kick a little bit, but it's not so bad that after one shot i have to re-aim. i could hold the R/T at about 12 bps all day long and not worry about the gun slowly drifting upwards because of the recoil... ------------- 98 Custom milled;painted;J&J Ceramic;X-Chamber;R/T;Cyclone. |
Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 07 July 2006 at 10:52am
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The recoil gets much worse after 20 bps :P But there is the LPK, and the e-bolt, so recoil isn't a good enough argument to stop a tippmann :P ------------- Tippmann A-5 Polished Internals E-Grip Ape Board JCS Blade Trigger QEV 8" Bigshot + Apex Ricochet R-5 / Tac Cap Palmers Stabilizer 68/4500 Crossfire |
Posted By: knukclez
Date Posted: 08 July 2006 at 6:50pm
Amen Sure an out of the box tippy could not compare to an angel. BUT this is why tippmann markers are so great. you can do ANYTHING to them. my gun can compete with any rate of fire. lightningbolt - if yr that weak and flimsey to where the "recoil" of the tippys mess up yr aim i suggest that you get a weight set, and not go into any kind of military enviroment I don't care if you have a stock spider. if you are good you will kick someones ass with a Blade straight out of the box from wal-mart. period. end of story. ------------- Tippmann Custom Pro-E Polished Internals Custom Mill/Paint Job 16" Rifeled SP Barrel A-6 Stock QEV Cyclone Feed System Chroned at 18 Balls a Second |
Posted By: koreanese
Date Posted: 09 July 2006 at 6:46pm
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just make ur A-5 look like this http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8637/pict00133ky.jpg - http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8637/pict00133ky.jpg ------------- www.opsgear.com |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 09 July 2006 at 8:22pm
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easier said than done. that one looks like it has real parts, which requires EXTENSIVE modification to the parts. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: koreanese
Date Posted: 09 July 2006 at 8:40pm
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i only paid 250 for everything except laser sight and the rail that it's sitting on. then i got some other reg upgrades like RT and bigshot ------------- www.opsgear.com |
Posted By: knukclez
Date Posted: 10 July 2006 at 1:53pm
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that mag looks real. that's very respectable. THATS what MILSIM is suppose to be, and what makes it exciting as well. ------------- Tippmann Custom Pro-E Polished Internals Custom Mill/Paint Job 16" Rifeled SP Barrel A-6 Stock QEV Cyclone Feed System Chroned at 18 Balls a Second |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 10 July 2006 at 2:19pm
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Sure, skill is important. But to claim that the quality of the equipment is not also important is rather silly. |
Posted By: knukclez
Date Posted: 10 July 2006 at 2:45pm
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eh... I've shot a Blade once. I was just trying to get a point across. =/ ------------- Tippmann Custom Pro-E Polished Internals Custom Mill/Paint Job 16" Rifeled SP Barrel A-6 Stock QEV Cyclone Feed System Chroned at 18 Balls a Second |
Posted By: Brettman24
Date Posted: 14 July 2006 at 10:58pm
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this did get to be 5 pages... lol ------------- Smart Parts Ion Halo B w/rip drive 16" All-American Barrel 68/4500 pure energy tank WGP Black Magic regulator camo paintjob |