Polishing My Internals
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Topic: Polishing My Internals
Posted By: ferrari4756
Subject: Polishing My Internals
Date Posted: 04 July 2006 at 12:19am
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Hey Guys,
i have an a-5 and was wondering if i should polish my internals. Does it make a noticble difference? does it increase efficency? is is hard to do? and is it to risky to do?
I know there has been alot of posts like these, but i havent found the right answer.
Thanks Guys, wouldnt know what to do without u.
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Posted By: Mehs
Date Posted: 04 July 2006 at 12:38am
Well, from me doing it myself, I didn't notice much of a difference in
anything, other people will say differently. It just takes time,
you take some steel wool, and rub where the internals move, like by the
bolt, and hammer, keep doing it until it looks shiny, but don't overdo
it. http://www.a5og.net - http://www.a5og.net will probably have more in-depth instructions.
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 04 July 2006 at 12:43am
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better air effiency is all i noticed.
it can be risky but for sure dont use sandpaper. besides that any moron can do it.
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Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 04 July 2006 at 9:40am
I've heard it helps. It's not hard to do, it might take a while though. As long as you dont over-polish, you should be fine.
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Posted By: barn_user
Date Posted: 04 July 2006 at 10:15am
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I polished mine and my FPS spiked by 50...
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Posted By: Shadowminion
Date Posted: 04 July 2006 at 11:01am
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I prefer using scotchbrite as a polishing media , steel wool works, but can remove too much material too quickly .
I'll PM you with details over the next few days .
Some say Polishing the internals voids the warranty , but thats unverified .
There should be some good detailed instructions on "model98.org" . Look for posts made by NaturalNewb , other posts there may or may not be as accurate and helpful .
------------- SL68-II , micro honed and polished .688" bore . Tuff Enuf .
Widowmaker , under construction
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Posted By: rossy11223
Date Posted: 04 July 2006 at 11:14am
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I didn't notice much of a difference at all. Steel wool worked well for me.
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Posted By: RavenGuard
Date Posted: 04 July 2006 at 10:36pm
Shadowminion wrote:
I prefer using scotchbrite as a polishing media , steel wool works, but can remove too much material too quickly .
I'll PM you with details over the next few days .
Some say Polishing the internals voids the warranty , but thats unverified .
There should be some good detailed instructions on "model98.org" . Look for posts made by NaturalNewb , other posts there may or may not be as accurate and helpful .
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not like tippmann ever asks you for your warranty anyways.
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Polished Internals
E-Grip
Ape Board
JCS Blade Trigger
QEV
8" Bigshot + Apex
Ricochet R-5 / Tac Cap
Palmers Stabilizer
68/4500 Crossfire
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Posted By: S\/\/4T-L()G4N
Date Posted: 05 July 2006 at 11:25am
carl_the_sniper wrote:
better air effiency is all i noticed.
it can be risky but for sure dont use sandpaper. besides that any moron can do it. |
Glad to see you still post stuff you don't know what you are talking about...
One reason not to use sandpaper (please...)
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Posted By: Hadarac
Date Posted: 05 July 2006 at 2:37pm
^ lol 
steel wool and rub
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 05 July 2006 at 2:50pm
S\/\/4T-L()G4N wrote:
carl_the_sniper wrote:
better air effiency is all i noticed.
it can be risky but for sure dont use sandpaper. besides that any moron can do it.
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Glad to see you still post stuff you don't know what you are talking about...
One reason not to use sandpaper (please...) |
i dont get what you problem with my post was?
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Posted By: tippya5extreme
Date Posted: 05 July 2006 at 4:24pm
couldn't you use paint stipper on the inside? or will that take off more then you need to?
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 05 July 2006 at 5:09pm
ive heard of it done but you would still have to polish a bit i think
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Posted By: S\/\/4T-L()G4N
Date Posted: 05 July 2006 at 5:26pm
carl_the_sniper wrote:
S\/\/4T-L()G4N wrote:
carl_the_sniper wrote:
better air effiency is all i noticed.
it can be risky but for sure dont use sandpaper. besides that any moron can do it.
| Glad to see you still post stuff you don't know what you are talking about... One reason not to use sandpaper (please...) |
i dont get what you problem with my post was? |
Gimme ONE good reason not to use sandpaper...
tippya5extreme wrote:
couldn't you use paint stipper on the inside? or will that take off more then you need to? |
You COULD; couple problems with that though. First, you are dealing with a harsh chemical, to keep it on the inside would be difficult. The chances of your removing paint from the outside of the gun would be relatively high. Second, you are removing just a hair more than overspray. Cast aluminum (what the recievers are made of) is inherently rough. Has to do with the fast cooling process (i believe). You want to remove just a tad bit of aluminum to give the inside a some what mirrored finish (move towards that finish, if you get it, your probably ruined your receivers ). Lastly, that chemical would have to be completely removed by soaking your receivers in water and mild soap. If any of the chemical was left over, it would destroy all of your o-rings.
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Posted By: Shadowminion
Date Posted: 05 July 2006 at 8:08pm
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I'll give you a good reason not to use sandpaper... it is an agressive remover of metal and all you really want to remove (Ideally) is overspray .
This is a case of where too much enthusiasm might ruin your recievers , scotchbrite , or some other less robust means of removing the powdercoating from the inside of the recievers would be , IMHO , a safer choice for novices .
------------- SL68-II , micro honed and polished .688" bore . Tuff Enuf .
Widowmaker , under construction
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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 05 July 2006 at 8:46pm
I wouldn't waste your time polishing, your marker will polish itself over time with use.
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JCS Dual Trigger
DOP X-CORE 8 stage x-chamber
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Posted By: S\/\/4T-L()G4N
Date Posted: 05 July 2006 at 10:19pm
Shadowminion wrote:
I'll give you a good reason not to use sandpaper... it is an agressive remover of metal and all you really want to remove (Ideally) is overspray .
This is a case of where too much enthusiasm might ruin your recievers , scotchbrite , or some other less robust means of removing the powdercoating from the inside of the recievers would be , IMHO , a safer choice for novices . |
What type of sandpaper are you talking about using here? 100 grit? 200 grit? You guys obviously have never painted anything before...
The sandpaper I am talking about here is probably 100 times less abrasive than any "scotch brite" pad...
800 grit, 1000 grit, 1500 grit...newspaper is about as abrasive...
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 05 July 2006 at 10:32pm
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true but that makes using it useless.
for me at least its hard to find something over 600 grit
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Posted By: S\/\/4T-L()G4N
Date Posted: 05 July 2006 at 10:38pm
carl_the_sniper wrote:
true but that makes using it useless.
for me at least its hard to find something over 600 grit |
You just don't get it...
Start with 500, go to 600, skip to 900, finish with 1000. You don't even have to do that many steps, but you will get a finish 10x better.
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Posted By: Rio258K
Date Posted: 05 July 2006 at 11:34pm
tippya5extreme wrote:
couldn't you use paint stipper on the inside? or will that take off more then you need to? |
There is no paint on the inside......
But maybe it will help, i don't know.
Rub it with steel wool, it should lower friction, thus increasing efficiency.
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Posted By: Shadowminion
Date Posted: 06 July 2006 at 7:00am
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Most kids will grab whatever sandpaper is lying around the house , say for refinishing furniture , whats that 230 to about 400 grit ?
I've worked in the metal finishing industry for a number of years and am familiar with surface finishing of every type you can think of , and a few most will never see . If I were to use sandpaper at all , I would start with 1000 grit carburundom paper , its not that it cant be done with sandpaper, its just more likely to be a grit unsuitable for the purposes we talk about here .
------------- SL68-II , micro honed and polished .688" bore . Tuff Enuf .
Widowmaker , under construction
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Posted By: TEHGANGSTER
Date Posted: 06 July 2006 at 12:43pm
http://model98.org/forum/index.php?topic=801.0 - http://model98.org/forum/index.php?topic=801.0
try that, it will make the gun work smoother
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Posted By: azncowboy
Date Posted: 06 July 2006 at 2:02pm
Haha when i first saw this topic heading i was thinking some bad dirty
thoughts...
Follow S\/\/4T-L()G4N's advice. Polished internals is a cheap mod for your
marker that has some pretty good results. For those of you that haven't
done it yet... put it on the to do list.
p.s. Nice signature carl... pink suits you...
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Posted By: FA22RaptorF22
Date Posted: 06 July 2006 at 4:30pm
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If you're going to do it...do it the right way. Sand or bead blast all the powder coat off (seems like paint) and use steel wool. Then finish it off with some good mothers aluminum polish.
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Posted By: Shadowminion
Date Posted: 06 July 2006 at 8:56pm
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^^^^ I'd recommend that for the outside of the marker ,if you're gonna paint it .
BUT NOT for a surface you are going to try to polish !!
First off , the recievers Tippmann sells for the 98's are POT-METAL , thats an alloy of Zinc and Aluminum , it does NOT anodize well , and is very rough as a byproduct of the DIE-CASTING method of mass producing them . They Powdercoat them because it is an efficient , less environmentally harsh way of putting a durable finish on metal . Removing this powdercoating can be done by :
Mechanical means , Ie: sandpaper , sandblasting , scraping etc
Chemically , Ie Paint stripper , Methyl Chloride , M.E.K. , Acetone , ad nauseum ,,,
The means used determine the precautions that are appropriate . Whatever means you use , BE CAREFUL , and get familiar with the procedures used before you try anything !! (both for personal safety reasons , and for the sake of preventing damage to your marker ) , all work equally well ,if done properly , JESUS !! Some people dont believe there's more than one way to do anything,,, there is ...
Polished internal is an awesome performance enhancement to your marker if done properly . If not done properly it can lead to a lot of frustration , thing is , its not that difficult to do .
The best tool you can use to polish your internals is your head , THINK ,,,,,
I will try to post a pictoral of polishing internals tomorrow , along with a simple procedure to "Micro-hone" . I will be using materials commonly found in most households and listing precautions to those enthusiastic , but inexperienced individuals that believe "a little is good , more is better" (sandpaper users , thats YOU GUYS !! )
Edit : I see somebody posted a link to model98.org and the polishing "How to" there , thats the same way I polished mine , so nm on the duplication of effort .
------------- SL68-II , micro honed and polished .688" bore . Tuff Enuf .
Widowmaker , under construction
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Posted By: MoNkeY Hunter
Date Posted: 07 July 2006 at 10:05pm
My gun seemed to shoot smoother and it might save orings. If you got Time do it, get some extra fine graphite and out a couple of drops in there when your done.
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Posted By: S\/\/4T-L()G4N
Date Posted: 07 July 2006 at 11:44pm
I would not suggest lubing your gun with graphite.
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Posted By: FA22RaptorF22
Date Posted: 08 July 2006 at 10:58am
^^lithium grease has been stated to work great. I use hate plain oil. It goes away too quickly and is thin. I like thicker stuff.
The polishing of the rear of my receivers was just for looks...b/c the ebolt hammer never touches the sides of them. The front is all that really mattered, also because i have a new frame on my gun so the trigger assembly is pointless for me to polish also. My front bolt is wicked smooth. Delerin on polished pot metal...how nice. Crappy tippmann metal...they should make new ones....i was going to anodize mine at home but a long time ago i found out that the metal was crap.
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