cyclone feed flaws
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Topic: cyclone feed flaws
Posted By: an94
Subject: cyclone feed flaws
Date Posted: 06 July 2006 at 4:23pm
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Posted By: an94
Date Posted: 06 July 2006 at 9:32pm
what?...no one like my poll??? ------------- 1 paintball gun package=$150 1 case of paint=$50 air & entry fee=$15 lighting up newbies all day long= Priceless |
Posted By: tippya5extreme
Date Posted: 06 July 2006 at 10:35pm
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theres no flaws. a stock cyclone feed will work. its just when you upgrade your gun to shoot 16,17+ balls then the balls wont feed. you could upgrade it to it will feed that many. clycone flaws? NONE ------------- http://imageshack.us"> 
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Posted By: Squishey
Date Posted: 07 July 2006 at 3:04am
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i wouldn't say flaws, it works fine just needs a few things tweaked.
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 07 July 2006 at 2:27pm
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there are flaws to everything. the cyclone is a solid product though ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 07 July 2006 at 10:18pm
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only flaw i can think of, is the speed at which ratchets wear out.
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Posted By: an94
Date Posted: 08 July 2006 at 9:15pm
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if you get the vortex mod it will not do that anymore ------------- 1 paintball gun package=$150 1 case of paint=$50 air & entry fee=$15 lighting up newbies all day long= Priceless |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 08 July 2006 at 11:10pm
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i have a feeling he knows that by now
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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 09 July 2006 at 4:27pm
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the cyclone is perfect for the woods. end of story. ------------- X |
Posted By: B.A.T
Date Posted: 09 July 2006 at 8:23pm
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the cyclone feed is a great product rock solid even. but i have worn out my ratchet with just a RT, but now my a-5 is e-gripped and vortex mod so its perfecet eccept that the cyclone ram itself should be made more durable like out of metal not plastic. ------------- Don't count on your mods count on your ability to play |
Posted By: MeanMan
Date Posted: 09 July 2006 at 8:58pm
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None? ------------- 
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Posted By: Ghost-Rider
Date Posted: 10 July 2006 at 5:08pm
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Nothing ... sept if you low on air with an r/t it can get funny.
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Posted By: Ashdawg
Date Posted: 10 July 2006 at 7:18pm
Amen. ------------- "Too close for missles, switching to guns..." |
Styro Folme wrote:Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 10 July 2006 at 7:52pm
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The profile of it I don't like. But there's no getting around that. |
Posted By: Tippinator
Date Posted: 04 September 2006 at 11:12am
The A5 w/Tippman E-Grip is advertised to shoot 17bps. The rathet does not seem to take it very well. That is a flaw w/the cyclone feeder! |
Posted By: RicWhic414
Date Posted: 04 September 2006 at 12:26pm
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its just a little slow... if you are fine with 15 bps then its fine faster you will need a QEV and if you want faster switch out for the qloader
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Posted By: General_Lee
Date Posted: 19 December 2006 at 10:40pm
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Cleaning it out sucks if you do have a "blender" inside the housing. Sure would make a great Margarita mixer tho, Just pour in some ice, Tequila and mix and you have a great 200 mph Margarita Blaster.
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Posted By: an94
Date Posted: 20 December 2006 at 10:07pm
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shoot me!! shoot me!!
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Posted By: dontrummer
Date Posted: 21 December 2006 at 6:23am
| the newest cyclone that comes on x7 can shoot up to 20 bps. |
Posted By: Mephistopheles
Date Posted: 21 December 2006 at 2:02pm
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On the A5, biggest "problem" is the air source. Unlike the 98Custom it is not from the CVX channel. Rather from blowback gas. A much more thinned out and weaker air source.
That's why, on average, a 98 w/ Cyclone and RT can fire and feed faster than an equal setup A5. That's why I junked my A5 and went back to a 98Custom. Cyclone was better on the 98. Besides that, the Cyclone EP pretty much fixed the other kinks. ------------- http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=166647&PN=1"> 
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Posted By: phil_stl
Date Posted: 21 December 2006 at 2:41pm
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^is the above true? What is the CVX channel? I thought both markers had the same type of valve system and powered the Cyclone from blowback gas. That was supposed to be the reason that you hardly ever get chops. (cause it only feeds after a shot = feeds from blowback gas). Are you saying that the cyclone on the A-5 doesn't feed it from blowback gas? Please elaborate. Thanks |
Posted By: an94
Date Posted: 25 December 2006 at 2:02am
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the gun is fired, blowback happens, cycling the bolt. at the same time that the gun is cycling, air is run from the small chamber in the bolt to the ram that in turn turns the cyclone feed. the problem I think is the CF should feed/start to push the ball in the gun, is at the moment the bolt is almost past the feed hole. & forget about air turning the cyclone. it should be linked straight to the bolt by a metal link. you would not have to ..um....time it. KISS= less things to go wrong. in the problem about Popcorning. I really havent looked into why some hoppers popcorn & some dont. so IDK about that one. ------------- 1 paintball gun package=$150 1 case of paint=$50 air & entry fee=$15 lighting up newbies all day long= Priceless |
Posted By: an94
Date Posted: 25 December 2006 at 3:00am
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here is a pic of what Im talking about what could be done sorry so small. I couldnt get the link to copy & paste right.  the red triangle is the new "ratchet". the gray rod thing is the link attached to the bolt. when the bolt moves back via blowback, the link will spin the cyclone. the A5/X7 cyclone uses a spring to spin it. and thats after the air pushes the piston forward. thats alot of time for the bolt to start to moving forward. causing chopping in higher BPS ------------- 1 paintball gun package=$150 1 case of paint=$50 air & entry fee=$15 lighting up newbies all day long= Priceless |
Posted By: phil_stl
Date Posted: 26 December 2006 at 2:48pm
| Wow, I never knew this. This is great info and can be used in those 98C vs. A5 debates, lol. |
Posted By: maddog312us
Date Posted: 31 December 2006 at 10:57pm
| i have a cyclone on my 98 and it is awsome |
Posted By: an94
Date Posted: 01 January 2007 at 1:34am
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so what do you all think of my idea for the cyclone? do you think it would go as fast or faster than the other hoppers out there?
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Posted By: an94
Date Posted: 02 January 2007 at 12:17am
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hello? anyone going to respond?
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Posted By: phil_stl
Date Posted: 06 January 2007 at 6:20pm
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To be honest it sounds like you know what you are talking about. But I don't completely understand. Like what is KISS? Plus your pics are too small to see the words you typed on the pics. You make it sound cool though. |
Posted By: Mephistopheles
Date Posted: 08 January 2007 at 7:55pm
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The bolt is a much more forceful object than air. More energy. The action of the bolt returning from the blowback gas, which would cycle the ratchet, would break the paint within the Cyclone itself. ------------- http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=166647&PN=1">
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Posted By: an94
Date Posted: 08 January 2007 at 8:52pm
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KISS= keep it super simple. or I like keep it simple stupid. cause everything that works really good is simple. maybe you could put a light spring to dampen the blow of the bolt being forced back. sorry about the small pics. I was lucky to even get THAT pic on (stupid computer!!) in the description I explained what the small words said. but my design feeds the paint in the chamber at the same time the bolt is moving backwards. in the A5/X7 cyclone it feeds as the bolt is starting to move forward. ------------- 1 paintball gun package=$150 1 case of paint=$50 air & entry fee=$15 lighting up newbies all day long= Priceless |