Homemade E-bolt
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Topic: Homemade E-bolt
Posted By: ro_ck_solid_x
Subject: Homemade E-bolt
Date Posted: 25 July 2006 at 10:53pm
| Here's the deal. I've got a pretty old 98 custom and I've developed an obsession with the e-bolt. The problem is I don't have one and ebay's nearly fresh out. I've done a lot of forum searching and I've read about people making their own but I was unable to find any truely informative posts on how to go about doing it. I don't have a lot of experience with electric guns so if anyone has done this themselves or can offer any helpful info on making one that would be great. |
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Posted By: workin man
Date Posted: 25 July 2006 at 11:27pm
Go to pbnation.com in the forums were they brake everythng down to the gun manf. Go to tipp. duh. click on maga Fruquntly Asked Qustion, under 98 look for the article maga e-bolt. And good luck
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Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 26 July 2006 at 12:37am
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So far the only homebrew ebolts/electronic markers. The people were well versed in electronics. Such as programming their own IC's. Other than that, you might be able to buy a board like WAS then take off the solenoid and replace it with a pnuematic solenoid. Then make your own ram to make the "bolt". In fact, that kind of intrigues me. |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 26 July 2006 at 12:48am
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A Morlock board could provide the electronics - that's actually the easy part. But it would require some pretty serious machining work to actually make the physical parts for the thing. Doable, but not for the timid. |
Posted By: deadeyevt
Date Posted: 26 July 2006 at 10:10am
DM4 boards work well because of their size, and MiniMorlock boards are awesome, and very tiny, just very expensive. I've also read of people using the stock endcap and mounting the ram to it instead of trying to make one. Good luck. ------------- Short on posts, long on Knowledge! |
Frobs wrote:Posted By: paintfrk7755
Date Posted: 26 July 2006 at 10:34am
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i ask how to make one too evry one said it is goin to be hard and stuff but i have not tryed ------------- <no sig advertising please> |
Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 26 July 2006 at 1:14pm
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You would need quite a bit of experience on a metal lathe to attempt it. Not to mention all the little quirks like cutting proper o-ring glands (Something I still struggle with)
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Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 26 July 2006 at 1:24pm
I have a swelled O-ring gland. I take medicine for it now. |
Posted By: PaintballPIMPIN
Date Posted: 26 July 2006 at 1:43pm
| i made my own ebolt.....if ur talking about making a ram sleeve thats a whole lotta work, i just get a gta ram... u should be able to figure out the rest....oh and i know someone that can make u a 2-way ram seal(if u send me ur ram cap)for $45......he owns astro tool and die making stuff with a cnc all day.....very good man |
Posted By: ro_ck_solid_x
Date Posted: 26 July 2006 at 2:01pm
| Thanks for the replies guys I found a lot of info on that pbnation thread. I'm still a ways off from trying to assemble it I just wanna get it all worked out in my head and get some prices first. What do you guys think of using http://www.clippard.com/store/byo_cylinder/byo_stainless_details.asp?sku=SDR-14-1%201/2 - this as my ram. Could I get away with a shorter stroke? Also I don't know very much at all about the boards is the pneumatic valving right on it or am I going to have to hook that up myself? |
Posted By: TEHGANGSTER
Date Posted: 26 July 2006 at 2:36pm
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it would take a long time to make it, but i guess you could........you should sell them.......theyre so much cooler than the new ones its noteven funny
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Posted By: PaintballPIMPIN
Date Posted: 26 July 2006 at 3:42pm
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thats a pretty big bore http://clippard.com/store/byo_cylinder/byo_stainless_details.asp?sku=UDR-05-1%201/2-NP2 - http://clippard.com/store/byo_cylinder/byo_stainless_details .asp?sku=UDR-05-1%201/2-|||NP2 thats the one u need.......non threaded so u can thread the tip of it so it will work with a regular ram head....otherwise u would have to make one and if u get that u would need a ram sleeve unless u know how to cnc or use a lathe.....id just buy a gta ram or something |
Posted By: ro_ck_solid_x
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 10:09am
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From what I understand, the solenoids are responsible for opening and closing the pneumatics...right? If that's the case will I need to use two with a 2 way ram? I just looked on airsoldier.com and those things are unbelievably expensive so if anyone knows where I can find some cheaper ones that have a pretty fast cycle rate I'd appreciate it.
As for supporting the ram I'll probably try and make use of the end cap. If that doesn't work I can probably have someone whip something up for me. And I think I'll be using a mini morlock for the board. |
Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 2:10pm
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You can get a 3-way solenoid valve. It cycles one direction, then when activated cycles air the other direction. Also the proper ram to use for something like this is a 1 inch stroke. -------------
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Posted By: ro_ck_solid_x
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 4:06pm
| Thanks a 3 way solenoid valve would make it significantly cheaper. But are you sure about the 1 inch stroke? I measured the stock bolt travel and it moves almost exactly 1.5 inches from cocked to opening the valve. While I could shorten it up by sliding the ram closer to the valve wouldn't that also move the front bolt too far forward? |
Posted By: ro_ck_solid_x
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 5:46pm
| One more thing...Does the regular e-bolt run 1/8 or 1/16 I.D. line to the ram? |
Posted By: FarSeer
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 6:12pm
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1/16 I.D. ------------- http://tbish.webs.com/tippy.html - My E-Bolted 98 |
Posted By: ro_ck_solid_x
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 8:43pm
| Would it increase the ram's cycle speed if I used 1/8 I.D hose just like it does with the cyclone? Also where could I get a 3 way solenoid? Other than that the only thing I'm really having trouble with is what to do for a hammer so if anyone has any ideas that don't require the use of a lathe I'd appreciate it. |
Posted By: ro_ck_solid_x
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 10:34am
| I think this solenoid http://www.airsoldier.com:8080/cgi-bin/mivavm?Merchant2/merchant.mvc+Screen=PROD&Store_Code=AOS&Product_Code=SMC-SY113A-SG-PM3 - here looks like it'll work. Do solenoids ever have trouble keeping up with a gun? |
Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 6:30pm
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http://www.zdspb.com/tech/misc/solenoids.html - http://www.zdspb.com/tech/misc/solenoids.html That might help with your solenoid woes. ^posted it in the wrong thread hehehehe. |
Posted By: ro_ck_solid_x
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 8:37pm
| Thanks a lot monk. I'm looking for a solenoid that would be able to exceed 20 bps. I know that's not necessary but if I'm gonna do this I wanna be able to brag about it. |
Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 9:32pm
| I know the humphrey solenoid is the one they use on the ebolt boards. I think this all comes down to the board you get. |
Posted By: ro_ck_solid_x
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 9:58pm
| I'm almost positive I'll be using the mini morlock which from the sounds of it can be set to basically as high a rof as I want. I'll also have as small a 2 way ram as I can get with and a qev on both sides so in theory this gun should be cookin. |