Why do people say driving a manual = fun?
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Topic: Why do people say driving a manual = fun?
Posted By: RollnROCK89i
Subject: Why do people say driving a manual = fun?
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 3:15pm
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Hey, I'm looking into getting my first car, and I'm looking to spend somewhere between 2000 and 3000 dollars. I'm thinking something like a 90's Honda Civic. I can either get a manual or automatic, but have never driven a manual before, but would be willing to learn. I've heard that driving a manual is more fun, so I was wondering why people say that. Thanks. |
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Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 3:19pm
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It just gets you more involved in the process - more in touch with the car. But I would definitely learn stick BEFORE you buy. Mess up somebody else's transmission. ------------- [IMG]http://i38.tinypic.com/aag8s8.jpg"> |
Posted By: BooksAndLeaves
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 3:28pm
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just because you feel cool switching gears speeding on the interstate
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Posted By: newport
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 3:49pm
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Drifting ^_________^
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Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 3:54pm
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i like automatic... cause i'm lazy... and it's easier for some things. things that involve your gf the the passenger seat.
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Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 3:54pm
| you have more control over your car. enter a turn in 5th, brake into the turn, drop down to 3rd, hit the gas. its hella fun. gets better gas mileage too, or at least if you want it to. |
Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 3:58pm
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Its the same reason why some of us play pump.. takes you back to the basics and more intuned and into the thing youre doing. ------------- 
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Posted By: paintbusta
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 4:26pm
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cuz all the street racers drive 5 speeds ------------- 
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 4:46pm
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I wanna put a manual into the Buick, but that's so much more cash than I've got... ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell" 
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Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 4:54pm
| I enjoy shifting, It gives my left foot something to do. |
Posted By: KoolKidsKlan
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 5:33pm
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I drive my manual kiddy-cart around everywhere. Just kidding, but my mom has a manual and when she first got it she had no idea what to do so the rides were so uncomftorble. She can drive it well now though. ------------- 
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 5:50pm
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I deffinitly prefer driving stick. I feel way, way more in control and in tune with the car than I do in automatic. Automatics just feel too much like go karts to me.
Deffinitly learn how to drive manual, even if you intend to buy an automatic, cause you never know when you might be in an emergency situation, and have to drive your friend, in their car, to the hospital or something. Also, what sort of city/ town do you live in? If you live out in the sticks, or a small town, then yeah I'd say manual. If you live in San Fransisco, where you could put a dent in someones benz at a red light if you dont balance the clutch right. |
Posted By: BooksAndLeaves
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 6:02pm
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choopie911 wrote:Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 6:08pm
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I hate driving my mom's jeep when it gets finicky on the road and
letting out the clutch in first turns more into a bouncing session than
anything else. The gas pedal is so sensitive, and the clutch is rather
hard to move. But I did enjoy it in one of my friends cars. It was easier. ------------- 
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Posted By: paintballinbill
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 6:17pm
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manual>automatic in almost all situations. 1. Save on Gas the only way an auto would be better is if you are drag racing, because autos are much more consistent from run to run. ------------- 98 Custom milled;painted;J&J Ceramic;X-Chamber;R/T;Cyclone. |
Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 6:58pm
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I perfer auto. Its better for driving in traffic and its easier to drive over all. Stick is fun but can get annoying after awhile. Take it from me traffic in a 5 speed Civic is hell. ------------- 
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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 7:09pm
I'd love it if my camaro was a manual, but sadly its automatic.
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Posted By: Thatoneguy123
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 7:22pm
I  stick shift. |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 8:22pm
If I were a racer, I wouldnt drive automatic... |
Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 9:13pm
For about 5 or six you can get a mid 90's caddy with no miles on it owned by old folks. -------------
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Posted By: Hairball!!!
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 10:45pm
For pure performance, a GOOD automatic/sequential shifter would probably be better than a manual. For fun, a manual would be better. |
Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 10:55pm
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I have a stick and I wish to hell it was an auto. Say all you want about how you "feel more in touch with the car" and all that nonsense. I do not feel at all in touch when I am in morning traffic on the way to work, constantly shifting from first to second to first to second for half a damn hour. Give me a automatic any day. |
Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 11:00pm
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I guess it depends where you live. My city isnt very large, so I dont have to worry about heavy traffic any.
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 11:01pm
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Posted By: youm0nt
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 11:13pm
| id love to try manual.but i drive an auto.one of my friends swears by manual |
Posted By: tippya5extreme
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 11:24pm
i love manual! i driven my moms bmw z3 its flipin sweet! you fell like your really driving the car and not the car driving you ------------- http://imageshack.us"> 
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 27 July 2006 at 11:27pm
Wonder why... |
Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 12:35am
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depends... lazy?=automatic not lazy?=manual ------------- X |
Posted By: mjicmike
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 1:06am
I love my manuals, only drawbacks like everyone has stated is the heavy traffic. Once you are in open road... open up that baby and watch her go.  ------------- A5 Rfs Dwg triggr Ricochet R5 8"Lapco Bigsht/14"CP Classic Palmers Stab. Lapco uni-mount DOP bullet drop fwd PMI 88/4500 Woods Flatline/14"Lapco Bigsht CMI Thunder pig reg. Remote adj. stk |
Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 1:16am
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I think auto is better for new drivers cuz they can focus on the road more where as more exsperianced drivers can use manual cuz theyre used to driving and its a lot easier to handle it. ------------- "I AM a crossdresser." -Reb Cpl Forum Vice President RIP T&O Forum |
Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 1:31am
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Posted By: darkSIDEofMOON
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 3:51am
brake before the turn, never into the turn. if you brake into the turn you are overloading the front and causing yourself to go much slower and with less control. btw about drag racing, most fast cars use a trip-tronic type of shifter. you let the clutch out once (at the very start) then just push up for the next gear. don't need to retouch the clutch again. trying to go through the gates against a auto or trip-tronic you will probably lose. why you think Ferrari is using alot all trip-tronic type clutches in their cars, its faster and cutting edge. |
Posted By: BearClaw
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 8:48am
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The Auto Stick debate will never end. The truth of the matter is they
both have a place and will continue so for some time. Although
the days of the Conventinal AUTO are VERY numbered. Soon too be
relaced by tech thats been used in heavy truck now for a few years.
Basically thier just standard transmishions with computer contoled
actuators to work the clutch and shift mehcanisims in the transmishion. Its pretty neat to drive em (have two at my work in freightliner columbias with a DETROITE series 60). Can shift WAY faster than myself and clutch service life is better due to the lack of driver error. BUT currently their design is still flawed and reliabiltiy is not so good. One model (cant remeber if it was meritors or eatons) used the abs read outs to determin speed for the computer to shift gears. so as soon as you had a abs problem (VERY common on heavy truck) your trasn mishion would stop working leaving you stranded and requiering an EXPENSIVE service call or tow. Either way get somee seat time in both an auto and a stick and decide what ya like. As ya can see some like stick some like autos. I myself have no probs with either and i HAD to learn stick in order to do my job as a Diesel Heavy truck mehcanic. I owned MANY autos and a hand full of manules and have been compitant in driving both from the start. As it stands now i can jump in my stick shift VW and not even think about it and basically drive on auto pilot and same goes for my auto Ford Ranger or my Yamaha Bike (5 speed toe shift LOL ).
Hell even driving the big guys has become rutine and they got up too
18speeds and have no sycros so you HAVE to have the rpms DEAD ON
MATCHED or your just grinding. Hell the clutch on em basicall
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 10:46am
Exactly what I was getting at. They can shift stupidly fast. |
Posted By: Farcry0092
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 10:54am
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i dont get my licence for 2 years but my dad let me drive his truck and i almost crashed it numerous times because i was to preoccupied with the manual shifting. grrrrrrr. so for my first car im getting my dads suzuki xl7. not too excited bout that. but its auto so ill live with it till i buy my own. edit: a quick question. does it have to be manual to drift a car? |
Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 11:06am
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I have never driven a manual transmission car, but my friends jeep is manual. He likes it a lot. I guess it just takes some getting used to. I like automatic. I don't have to to much.
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Posted By: darkSIDEofMOON
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 12:50pm
well i think that most traditional motorists like the shifting gates. while most start up racers use shifters as well. but once you get up into pro seris you see alot more paddle shift type cars. why? because it is faster and less chance of missing a gear which could mean a win or loss. i don't think that traditional shifters will lose their place because there are still alot of people that want that connected feel, plus they are cheaper. |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 1:21pm
No, but it helps. If you like to tool around in your car and squeal the tires, drift, donuts, etc, go manual. |
Posted By: reifidom
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 2:35pm
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Heavy traffic never bothered me while I was in my manual Jeep. Well, it bothered the hell out of me, but not because I had to shift.
You just learn to pace yourself, not riding right up on the car ahead of you, and you don't have to shift nearly as much as you'd think. Traffic would move much faster if everybody kept a better following distance. Then we wouldn't all be start-stopping like idiots, moving down the highway like we're all having seizures. I wonder why we feel like we're going so much faster when we rush up to the car ahead of us when there are no stoplights and no way to get around the person in front. ------------- 
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Posted By: TEHGANGSTER
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 2:44pm
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i got my stang for 2, and it runs with a 3 speed auto, i want a stick tho, its better because i live in the middle of nowhere, styros equation is helpful also
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Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 3:01pm
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I learned on a stick, and it's certainly a good skill to have. You really do have more control over the car, it comes in especially handy in snowy conditions, and when you can downshift, it's easier to break. I flipping hate driving an auto in bad conditions. You really shouldn't just leave it in drive, way too many times I've done that and had the car decide it wants to shift and totally lose traction. I do drive it in traffic, it isn't too bad, but the constant stop-and-go when you never get out of 2nd sucks. If you live in a populated urban area and never leave it, I wouldn't reccomend one. Padle-shifting type cars are out of your price range, so don't worry about it until you want an M3 or something. I still suggest trying both, but it never hurts to learn something.
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Posted By: Hairball!!!
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 3:24pm
Many people don't know the difference between what most manufacturers sell, a conventional auto with some buttons, and a true sequential/F1-style gearbox. Don't pimp your "OMG TIPTRONIC AUTOSTICK" unless your car was over $50k. |
Posted By: darkSIDEofMOON
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 1:05am
unless you go to VW or Audi with their new DSG tranny. suppose to be the closest to a F1 style paddle in the lower price range. hell Motor Trend even stated that it could bring the death of the shifter. only thing i hate about autos with buttons is that it already shifts for you if you don't up or down shift. i want something like in a Ferrari! |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 5:17am
| Dude, even Celica's have paddle shifting. |
Posted By: Snipa69
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 5:21am
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I don't think the manual transmition will ever be fully replaced. It has been arround ever since the vehicle has existed. If it was ever discontinued from the manufacturer, there would certainly be a private company pumping them out because there would be such a demand.
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Posted By: PBalla2242
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 9:07am
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...not replaced, but def shrinking into an "enthusiest's" market.
MTs will certainly be around, but the amount of cars becoming all ATs is growing. while alot of sedans and plainer cars are converted all to auto (maximas for ex.), tuned up versions of cars and all out sports cars will keep MTs to satisfy the market they're geared towards. for the OP, a MT will be an auto to you with a few months. its up to you if you're willing to sacrifice a little comfort in the beginning and can understand what you have to do. overall, MT is better for anyone who likes to drive imo ------------- 
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 2:16pm
| Be lazy and flaunt your money like me and drive an automatic. |
Posted By: youm0nt
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 7:23pm
| pics and info about said paddle shifting? |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 7:28pm
Two paddles behind the steering wheel. You use your fingers to shift without a clutch essentially. If you want to shift, click the paddle with your right hand, if you want to shift back down, click the left. (Might be the opposite hands, I dont know) Google search, or google image search "paddle shift" 
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 8:52pm
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How much would that cost? (too lazy to Google...) ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: Biteme132
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 11:34pm
First of all DUMB ASS do not buy a Honda, and sure as hell not Honda Civic. and Second go for manual, 6 speed. ------------- . |
Posted By: Hairball!!!
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 11:37pm
| Troll |
Posted By: Dye Playa
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 11:45pm
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i am only 14 but i like driving my dads truck manual better than any auto. driving stick is more fun and i can easily see how in bad driving confitions it is safer. goin down an icy hill, drop into first, so the car doesnt decide to shift into second and have you coast down it, hittin the breaks, and sliding to your death lol. ------------- 
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Posted By: Brian Fellows
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 11:47pm
Probably IJM (aka saywhat-something or other) again. |
Posted By: battlefreak
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 12:15pm
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i like the stick better even though i havent been driving long but u do have alot more control and its real easy to learn stick if ure like me cus ive been drivin tractors all over the place at our farm since i was like 10 ------------- 
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Posted By: darkSIDEofMOON
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 3:25pm
why not buy a Civic? don't like reliability? don't like better resale than everything but a toyota (comparable)? don't like getting great gas mileage (40mpg with a/c in my 04 civic)? why exactly not buy a Honda? you do know that there is nothing special about 6 speeds except that the 6th gear is an over drive cog. i hate retards that base their opinions on nothing. btw i have driven many different cars and my sports car is a 240sx with a rebuilt turbo engine soon. this is a kid's 1st car, i have heard and seen many people get cars with too much power and crash or kill themselves or others. no one understands that 300rwhp is alot of power. btw, the Toyota celica does not have paddle shifters. it will automatically up and down shift for you. they are merly buttons that up or down shift earlier. not a true paddle shift. |
Posted By: paintballinbill
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 4:19pm
^^werd. i have a 94 integra(basically a civic with a 1.8 liter instead of a 1.6); and i consistently get 35-38 mpg in the CITY. it's really not that hard. my point is that a fair amount of people don't know how to drive manuals efficiently. (heavy acceleration in lower gears kills gas mileage, for instance. the car is more efficent in 5th and 6th gears.) oh, and about the celica having paddle shift, that's false. however, the toyota MR-S has an optional paddle shift transmission. ------------- 98 Custom milled;painted;J&J Ceramic;X-Chamber;R/T;Cyclone. |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 5:37pm
| I know for a fact the Celica GTS had paddle shifts. Yeah, its still an automatic, but it still has paddle shifts so you can override it. |
Posted By: 636andy636.
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 5:50pm
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http://www.canadiandriver.com/testdrives/00celica.htm - http://www.canadiandriver.com/testdrives/00celica.htm "GT-S models have a 180 horsepower 1.8 litre four cylinder powerplant and a standard six-speed manual transmission, or optional 'E-shift' automatic transmission with manual shifting buttons on the steering wheel." My parents mazda six with auto transmission even has a manual shift mode. ------------- [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/anthonymartinez/402cdjo-1.gif"> |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 5:57pm
| My friend in vancouver drives a newer Mazda. I really like how their shifting works. Have it do it for you, or you can do it. You can switch while driving, etc. Very nicely done. |
Posted By: Hairball!!!
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 6:32pm
That's how all of these are. |
Posted By: darkSIDEofMOON
Date Posted: 01 August 2006 at 2:50am
it is not a true paddle shifting car. these are just autos with some buttons that allow you to up shift and down shift...kinda. these are comparable to having an auto stick with maybe 1-3 other shift points and you are able to move into those. these auto-button shifters don't shift fast enough, or allow you to hold into a gear because they automatically will down or up shift for you. now true paddle shifting cars, like Ferrari's shift just 100thousandths of a second slower than F1 cars and they do not automatically down or up shift for you. true paddle shifters improve performance. a person with a Celica button shifter would easliy get their butts handed to them by a person with a normal manual. there is a difference between true paddles and automatics with buttons. |
Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 01 August 2006 at 2:52am
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i like my automatic. less work for me, just romp on the gas and go.
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