I haven't been here for very long and i've already seen that some of you really don't like snipers or such. I was just wondering why exactly. I don't mean to cause a war here am just curious. I myself love to go out in the woods first and just sit and wait for my buddies to get into range of my A-5 and pick them off one by one. Along with being able to sneak into the woods and move slowly towards them while my buddy fires at them without being seen.

Heh, it also just gives me more practice stalking for the up coming archery season.

ughhhh

comeon guys he asked nicely

but you really should have searched.

ok then ill help a bit:

1)this is page 2 cause page 1 was all crap:

http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=157209&KW=snipers+in+paintball&PN=0&TPN=2 - http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=157 209&KW=snipers+in+paintball&PN=0&TPN=2

2) http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=155700&KW=snipers+in+paintball - http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=155 700&KW=snipers+in+paintball

3) http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=155329&KW=snipers+in+paintball - http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=155 329&KW=snipers+in+paintball

pm me if you need more convincing/information... im feeling helpfull today

the word 'sniper' should be added to the language filter. 

^^ iv already requested that...

and koyote just broke the 8th commandment of my religion... "Thou shalt not speak of paintball snipers on the tippy forum, else thou shalt be shot"

Doh!!

There techincally COULD be a sniper in pb if.......

They were using a closed bolt marker, fixed to fire one shot at a time (Not Semi-auto but you would have to load each ball by hand or something and fire it) at a higher velocity. Possibly even a .50 cal paintball with heavy paint in it (Like airsoft, they use heavier BB's and higher velocitys in high-end guns to acheve more accuracy). You could also have a slight curve in the barrel as well.

And hey, at that ROF you could probably use different shaped paintballs(Like a football shape, or minie ball shape or something). I know it would be more expensive, but if many people used them the prices would go down. Plus, you couldnt fire more than 50 shots a day probably.

pb125 wrote: We actually hate this because.. THIS EXACT THREAD HAS BEEN MADE MANY MANY TIMES. We don't care at all about snipers in paintball. Get over it.

QFT

wait 1. 2. 3. that was where this thread became crap

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my best friend is jesus.... he just hasent realized it yet

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oh god i hope that was a joke

meh

of course there are people who snipe in paintball. when i meant snipe i meant in a mental context as in believes in sniping. not a physical context where they would be successfully carring out the sniping. so in the context that i meant it, there are people who snipe in paintball.

You know, I'm starting to get fed up.

.....not with the 'sniper' threads but with you kids who refuse to contrubute anything to this thread other than harassment and childish bombing of people who have curiosity about a subject that you just happen to have heard a thousand times.

So what. Its been posted. Big freakin deal. Why then don't you go through the new player forum and everytime someone asks "Should I get a 98c or the A-5?" don't you ram the search button down their throats?

Respond constructively or don't respond. One person saying "run a search" is fine, but when twelve people are saying the same thing....thats worse than any and all sniper threads that I've had the chance to view.

I think the biggest problem is that most of these threads are started by trolls with less than 5 posts.   You don't come on to a new website and start a war "accidentally."

While I agree that the repetitiveness of the "Use the Search" botton can be, well, repetitive; if someone takes the time to read through the crap, they have the right to post up.   This is a message board, thats what people do!

darkSIDEofMOON wrote: SSOK wrote: There techincally COULD be a sniper in pb if....... They were using a closed bolt marker, fixed to fire one shot at a time (Not Semi-auto but you would have to load each ball by hand or something and fire it) at a higher velocity. Possibly even a .50 cal paintball with heavy paint in it (Like airsoft, they use heavier BB's and higher velocitys in high-end guns to acheve more accuracy). You could also have a slight curve in the barrel as well. And hey, at that ROF you could probably use different shaped paintballs(Like a football shape, or minie ball shape or something). I know it would be more expensive, but if many people used them the prices would go down. Plus, you couldnt fire more than 50 shots a day probably. you actually know that most Real sniper guns are semi-auto right?  even the big bad 50 cal. that the armed forces used is semi-auto. but i understand what you are saying

nah, most are bolt action, they are becoming more semi auto though, the marines just picked up a new one that theyre gonna test for a year and see how it goes

KoolKidsKlan wrote: This has been discussed so many times and basicly we don't hate SNIPERS, we hate SNIPERS IN PAINTBALL. Simply because they don't exist.

you hate them because they dont exist? so if i sed i dont really exsist would you hate me? waht about the abominable snowman? 

The .50 cal is not exactly a common sniper rifle. It's not something you're going to deploy with into the woods and sneak around. it's pretty cumbersome. It's great for 1000yard plus engagements, and anti-material use.

The Army and Marine Corps are currently testing a semi-automatic sniper rifle to suppliment their M-24's and M-40's and replace their M-14/21's. It's the newest version of Knight's SR-25, which is an AR-type rifle, which can rival bolt actions in accuracy.

Most of our current ememies use a mix of semi-automatic Dragunov SVD, Romanian PSL, and Iraqi Al-kadasha(sp?) sniper rifles. These are more like our "Designated Marksman rifles" such as M-14's than like our dedicated sniper rifles. They're accurate to about 600 meters, not 800-1000.

The way they're utilized is different as well. They're issued at a squad(platoon maybe?) level as a way of providing longer range firepower over the squads standard weapons, normally AK types with 300 meter effective range.

Generally speaking, most of these semi-auto sniper rifles are used in a similar way. As part of a unit rather than snipers operating in small teams.

As far as adapting any of this to paintball, the ranges are so short that concealment is difficult, you are also within immediate range of return fire when you shoot. The two man sniper team is not adaptable to this playing style.

Designated marksman concepts lend themselves better, if you really can pull it off. Even if say, you have a flatline, you're not outranging the rest of the squad by much, once a firefight really breaks out it's not going to matter. admittedly, there are some instances in which terrain obstacles would prevent the enemy from reaching you fast enough and where you can engage at a longer range than the rest of your squad, however, "one shot one kill" will neither be possible nor desired. I mean, why try for the one shoty and miss when you can rake them with a burst from an RT? A gun with a flatline and RT would function somewhat as a medium machinegun in this situation.

Again, with the way the game goes, you're probably just wasting your time.

darkSIDEofMOON wrote: GI JOES SON wrote: darkSIDEofMOON wrote: SSOK wrote: There techincally COULD be a sniper in pb if....... They were using a closed bolt marker, fixed to fire one shot at a time (Not Semi-auto but you would have to load each ball by hand or something and fire it) at a higher velocity. Possibly even a .50 cal paintball with heavy paint in it (Like airsoft, they use heavier BB's and higher velocitys in high-end guns to acheve more accuracy). You could also have a slight curve in the barrel as well. And hey, at that ROF you could probably use different shaped paintballs(Like a football shape, or minie ball shape or something). I know it would be more expensive, but if many people used them the prices would go down. Plus, you couldnt fire more than 50 shots a day probably. you actually know that most Real sniper guns are semi-auto right?  even the big bad 50 cal. that the armed forces used is semi-auto. but i understand what you are saying nah, most are bolt action, they are becoming more semi auto though, the marines just picked up a new one that theyre gonna test for a year and see how it goes really?  isn't the newest version of the 50 cal they have semi?  i swear i saw show about the fire power of that weapon.  the smaller caliber guns i thought were semi too.  ehhh, what i know?

I agree with gi joe's son, most military sniper rifles are bolt action, they are proven to be more accurate then other rifles. Now there are some exceptions to the rule like the M82A1 Barret .50 cal sniper rifle but that rifle isn't actually used very often, but it is insainly powerfull. The most used rifle for army snipers (the gun they are taught on) is the M24 its a great rifle with a range of about 800 meters and is exstreamily accurate, its a bolt action rifle. The marines most used sniper rifle, the M40 its range is (aproxmantly) 1000 meters it too, is bolt action but they all use magazines in a lot of situations if they loaded them 1 at a time, they would end up dead in a hurry.

Now then on to your "specialized sniper bullets" the idea has been thought up more times then i care to imagine, they exsist but are only used for military and police training cavilians cant get them, and they cost about $500 a case.

I didn't expect this many post on this topic already. Any way I honestly didn't know this topic had been posted many times before if I had I can honestly say I wouldn't of posted it, so am sorry for that. I was just curious as to why snipers were a no no on this forum.

So once again my apologies I just like to sit and wait for people to walk on by.

By the way I am not a troll.

oldsoldier wrote: Real World Sniper Rifles. There are merits to both bolt and semi sniper rifles, and a very mission specific need. The "follow on shot" from a semi without breaking sightline is a true benifit, but bolt actions do reach out a tad better. Example the semi M24 had a maxeff of 800m, where the current M40 has a maxeff of 1000m. It is a trade off. But a real benifit of a semi is when you are up to your armpits in badguys, you have a high rof to return with. The Army is still looking for the best of both worlds operational weapon. Airsoft: Most field rules limit "sniper rifles" to 450-500 fps with .23gr or .25gr 6mm BB's where the standard field BB is a .20gr at <400fps. The heavier BB at higher velocity gives a 35-50% increase in accuracy and range over a .20 at <400. I can tap a target at 125m with my G+G M14 (XM21mod) where standard aeg's can not reach me (effectively placing me out of effective return fire range, a primary tennet of the skill).

I play outlaw airsoft so we just bring what we got, not really any restrictions.

Apotheosis wrote: I too am a sniper.  These haterz on here get mad when people bring it up only because they know they would get their asses kicked if they were to go 1on1 with a sniper of my caliber.

i couldnt have put it better myself

darkSIDEofMOON wrote: SSOK wrote: There techincally COULD be a sniper in pb if....... They were using a closed bolt marker, fixed to fire one shot at a time (Not Semi-auto but you would have to load each ball by hand or something and fire it) at a higher velocity. Possibly even a .50 cal paintball with heavy paint in it (Like airsoft, they use heavier BB's and higher velocitys in high-end guns to acheve more accuracy). You could also have a slight curve in the barrel as well. And hey, at that ROF you could probably use different shaped paintballs(Like a football shape, or minie ball shape or something). I know it would be more expensive, but if many people used them the prices would go down. Plus, you couldnt fire more than 50 shots a day probably. you actually know that most Real sniper guns are semi-auto right?  even the big bad 50 cal. that the armed forces used is semi-auto. but i understand what you are saying

I know that. But if you were to go semi auto with a pb sniper, It would be easier to be a normal player. If you had to pull back a lever, put the pb in, (Bolt Action) and pull it foward it would force you to be a sniper.

TEHGANGSTER wrote: not neccisarily, and bolt actions dont have to be hand loaded

They dont have to be hand loaded, but if you had a semi-auntomatic pb sniper rifle you wouldnt need to make your shots count

Come on now.....If you have never been in the infantry and never been in combat don't post stuff like this. The M82 is very common.....and you engage Anything w/ it. Even though its kinda big (& freakin' heavy) you can still vegg out and low crawl w/ it.

Marine Corps Scout Snipers (8541's) uses the M40a1-a3 (depending on what unit your in), M82 .50, M-16a4/M4a4 w/ ACOG sights & M203 40mm grenade launchers.

Also those Soviet Era sniper rifles you listed are not as accurate as say the M40 (....its got that floating barrel...) but it will still hold a reasonably tight group at those ranges. Just because there not being used that way in Iraq dosen't mean they can't.

.....as for the Paintball Sniper......I dig it. Its allways fun to hide in the brush and shoot someone in the back of the dome!

Kilo Co. 3rd Bn 7th Marines 2x Iraq Vet