What is the point of religion?
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Topic: What is the point of religion?
Posted By: travis75
Subject: What is the point of religion?
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 7:43pm
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It seems to me that the only purpose of religion is to start wars and brainwash people who are too stupid to think for themselves. If priests who rape children don't fear their god, why should I? The whole ordeal looks silly and archaic to me. It would be great if a religious forumer would clear this up for me. ------------- Hey MPAA, Guess what? 09 f9 11 02 9d 74 e3 5b d8 41 56 c5 63 56 88 c0! |
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Posted By: phillll227
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 7:45pm
Explanation of the meaning of life. Explanation of the natural world. Source of hope through an afterlife. ------------- |
travis75 wrote:Posted By: impulse!
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 7:48pm
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False hope for people who lives suck horribly everyday. I.E. 3rd world countries. Something good to luck forward to and to live for instead of just commiting suicide and ending the crap they go through. Also an early way to civilize and control people. You tell someone they are going to burn in hell for sleeping with their friends wife. Good chance they will listen. ------------- 
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Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 7:49pm
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Well, it started out as a way to explain the world around us and to give us hope of an afterlife, along with a code of conduct for our lives. The sad part is that now it has been skewed by the various members of the various sects into something to kill each other over. But yeah, it looks silly and archaic to me too. -------------  |
Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 7:52pm
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Belif in a higher being basically. It also sets guidelines to live by, such as not fighting, swearing, or attacking people, helping the needy and poor and in general being a nice person. There are some nuts in all parts of life, including various religions. Saying all preists are child abusers is like calling all blacks theifs and drug dealers. Personally, I'm not a huge fan of the church, my view is religion is a personal thing, but to each his own, I dont insult or mock other's beleifs, but your welcome to think whatever you please. ------------- Real Men play Tuba [IMG]http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1859/newsmall6xz.jpg"> PH33R TEH 1337 Dwarf! http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/log_off_user.asp" rel="nofollow - DONT CLICK ME!!1 |
Posted By: Tae Kwon Do
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 7:53pm
Racist. |
Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 7:54pm
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I really would like someone to explain to me how anyone ever thinks it's ok to kill someone because they don't believe the same thing....Especially when your beliefs go against the killing of others....I just don't see the logic...
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Posted By: blackdog144
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 7:54pm
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well im a christian...and the reason for religion is basicaly for what people believe in...duh...reason for wars and stuff is because of differences and dislikes i would guess...i hope that made sence...
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Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 7:57pm
Again, there are some nutbaskets in all points of life, including religion. Some people inturpret the bible one way and some the other. People who murder for their religion in my opinion arent Christians, they are something else. The bible says to love everyone, even your enemies. ------------- Real Men play Tuba [IMG]http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1859/newsmall6xz.jpg"> PH33R TEH 1337 Dwarf! http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/log_off_user.asp" rel="nofollow - DONT CLICK ME!!1 |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 7:58pm
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There is none.
Science does a much better job of that than religion
LSD can also provide this, with much less effort. Check - check - check. I guess we don't need religion. :P |
Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 7:59pm
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Originally it was a form of control- it evolved along with early tribalism; a means by which leaders could control their tribes. "The crops failed because you are disobedient to the will of the Gods as they have spoken them through me!" As societies evolved greater, individual religions had more sway- the priests were oftern among the most powerful sect of early socieities, and the divine right of monarchs was the reason that the system was held stable. Societies became a house of cards- religion was the foundation that MUST remain intact, or the entire society would fail. Furthermore, people became so accustomed to the diea of being utterly subservient to whatever chosen deity(ies) that their was a genuine human inertia to the preservation of religion; how do you try to tell thousands of people that everything that has been absolutely true for their entire lives is in fact a falsehood? Now, religion is a political and economic institution, with the livelihoods - and power! - of many many thousands being utterly contingent upon its continued success. It exists under its own inertia; basically all religions are a cult that became large enough to go 'mainstream'.
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Posted By: blackdog144
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 8:00pm
yes thats true, but on a sort of side note...dont get war and murder mixed up...God in the old testement commanded the Israelites to kill off all these nations. One nation being the palastinias which they didnt kill off completely when God told them to. Now look at whats been happening...palastine and israel have been at war for YEARS...ya i sort of went off topic on that... ------------- http://imageshack.us">
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 8:07pm
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Trust brihard to pull out the Anson. |
Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 28 July 2006 at 8:12pm
Very, very well done. Between this and what Clark said, we can just about put this thread to bed... ------------- |
Posted By: darkSIDEofMOON
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 1:21am
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make no mistake about it...religion has killed more people than all the wars combined. in every year since religion was created, their has been blood spilled over who is right and has right to. yet religion was just not made for control, but for trying to understand the world around them. if you look at religions many of the mean parts of the religion were directed to things that were unpredictable. like god of fire or god of explosion (which then could be related to forrest fires or volcanos) yet most of the deities were based around many predictable events, rainy season, changes of season, etc. now if you look at all religions they share many similar attributes or stories...for example: noah was actually based 3-4k years before by the mesopitains (spelt wrong). the death and resurection of jesus christ was based off a Greek/Roman god who died in the winter only to rise in the spring...sound familiar? in the beginning of christainty many "pagen" traditions were absorbed by the church so that they could convert more people. |
Posted By: BARREL BREAK
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 1:36am
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'Organzied religion' specifically is an instrunment of control.
Offer weak minded people a fantasy story, in exchange for their subservience to what you want them to do. |
Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 1:40am
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I've recently converted from Catholocism to Atheism. It feels damn good.
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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 1:41am
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something to blame all of life's problems on... "goddamn it!" ------------- X |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 1:44am
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here we go again... ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: BARREL BREAK
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 2:16am
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 2:17am
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Bravo. I too prefer not to be affiliated with a religion. |
Posted By: barn_user
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 9:49am
| I can't help but wonder why everybody hates religion so much here. Thats one of the main things I've seen here is that instantly the word religion is brought up and everybody pounces on it. I'm just curious to see the main reason why you strongly dislke it. Now I'm not trying to flame anybody or try to act smart (becuase I'm not lol). I am a christian and am sure you guys know all about that kind of stuff but I'm simply interested in hearing why you don't like it. |
Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 10:21am
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It's because this place has an unusually large number of very smart people, for an internet forum, and most smart people value logic and pay too much attention to just be fine with religion as a principle. But that's just me....
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Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 11:05am
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Religion just doesn't add up. It was made up to explain things way back when, when the people who wrote it knew nothing about science. Since we now have science to explain things for us, there is no use for religion.
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Posted By: djrox
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 2:23pm
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I hate to say this, but the only reason I have a religon is because I'm afraid of hell. And if religon made perfect sense then they wouldn't call it faith. People shouldn't look at the Bible as a textbook. It is a book full of stories that are supposed to help people in there daily lives. (example, don't kill or steal, honor your parents, treat others how you want to be treated) ------------- campaignforliberty.com - campaignforliberty.com |
Posted By: TEHGANGSTER
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 2:36pm
me too, yay  its so pointless ------------- 
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Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 2:54pm
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Does anyone else cringe when people say "faith"?
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Posted By: barn_user
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 3:27pm
Simply what you beleive in. Do you have faith in religion or in the field of science? You would have faith in the science field and someone else will have faith in religion. |
Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 3:39pm
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Do you guys believe in santa clause or the easter bunny? Or is that too much faith to ask for?
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 4:02pm
Science is not a matter of faith, because science does not ask you to beleive anything 'just because'. Science issues theories- the explanation for something with the greatest plausibility based on cause and effect and known physical and mathematical principles. Science adjusts itself accordingly as new information and evidence comes to light. Religion gives absolute certainties absed on ideas thousands of years old with no real logical or scientific reasoning behind it. Granted religion has a lot of good stuff to say, but most of the explanations about why things happen, or how the earth was made, are total bunk that have long since been proven as false. Science can go into more detail than "Becuase the guys who wote the Bible said so". All else being equal, the simplest explanation is likeliest to be the correct one, and the idea of cause and effect down to infinitely small levels is far more plausible than a magically omnipotent being that actually cares what *we* think, and has nothing better to do than interfere in our affairs. ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: barn_user
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 6:24pm
Man brihard you are one smart cookie. I quit, so I'm just gonna leave it at...its all personal preference as to what you choose to beleive. |
Posted By: BARREL BREAK
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 6:29pm
Your refusal to actually use your brain, and accept logic encourages the idea that faith is more important than logic. This is a supremely dangerous idea. It leads to the mindset that allows people to either blow themselves up for their beliefs, or go and murder doctors who perform abortions. |
Posted By: barn_user
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 6:39pm
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Sorry for spaming this thread up but Barrel Break are you refering to "Your" as me personally or as in addressing the people that do not beleive the science? Again sorry for spaming this thread up.
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Posted By: BARREL BREAK
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 6:52pm
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Posted By: barn_user
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 6:56pm
| Thanks for clearing that up. |
Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 8:19pm
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Damn it. Why does Clark or Bri always beat me to stuff? I am so going to start putting folks on notice...
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Posted By: TRC1040
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 8:26pm
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I think that there is religion for two reasons. 1) First try to think of a world were you're not in control of anything and nothing anywhere, on earth or the heavens, is controlling the present and the future. Think of not having a place to go when you die and that we are here just for the same reason as everything else. to be born have sex and die. I don't know about you but to me it's a little scary not knowing what's going to happen to me in the future, and its even more frightening to think that there isn't someone up there that is going to help me through the hardest times of my life. 2) Money ------------- http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img23741qy5.jpg"> 
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Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 8:32pm
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I can image a world like that. It's the one I live in. Besides, having "faith" in a religion doesn't mean that there actually IS someone up there controlling things or that there actually IS life after death....Besides, why does there need to be a life after death, or expectations of a higher power, or anything like that for life to have meaning? What you accomplish in your life should be the meaning of it, not what you expect after it's all over...
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 8:37pm
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Barn_user- for the record, I've not problem with religion; it's a person's preference, as you said. What I don't tolerate is when religious people try to insist to me that they're right, or in any way try to shove their religion in my face.
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Posted By: Destruction
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 8:39pm
Thanks for making that clear, Kirk. ------------- u dont know what to do ur getting mottor boatted Men are from Magmar, women are from Venusaur. |
Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 8:43pm
True that. That has to be THE number one thing that really ticks me off. I can put up with almost anything else out of a person, but that will make me speak up. I've been there many times too, and it sucks because it's hard to say anything without being a jerk... This is also why "faith based" political initiatives bother me so much.... ------------- |
Posted By: BARREL BREAK
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 8:47pm
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Posted By: Destruction
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 9:00pm
no! NO! NOOOOOO!! NOT THE BANANA!! ANYTHING BUT THE BANANA!! ------------- u dont know what to do ur getting mottor boatted Men are from Magmar, women are from Venusaur. |
Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 9:14pm
Most of us feel the same way when aethiests push their view points as well, Bri  Thats why I've never once told another person their beleifs are any more or less true then mine.------------- Real Men play Tuba [IMG]http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1859/newsmall6xz.jpg"> PH33R TEH 1337 Dwarf! http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/log_off_user.asp" rel="nofollow - DONT CLICK ME!!1 |
Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 9:16pm
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I would agree, but to me, we've almost earned the double standard. We actually have proof for what we believe and logic behind our statements....our stuff doesn't come down to faith and can actually be agrued...
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Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 9:20pm
So you can yell and holler there is no god and chirstians just have to sit there quietly and take it? Cozy world you have ryan.  ------------- Real Men play Tuba [IMG]http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1859/newsmall6xz.jpg"> PH33R TEH 1337 Dwarf! http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/log_off_user.asp" rel="nofollow - DONT CLICK ME!!1 |
Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 9:21pm
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yea, i couldve sworn the point of religion was to respect other religions....i mean, im an atheist, but im a fairly decent person, i help out around places and stuff, so just bc i dont believe im going to a place they all call hell? |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 9:22pm
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I am a Christian (not sure which one, but a Christian none the less), and I can tell you why. I enjoy the prospect of a better life than here on Earth. Of peace, comfort, all the works. And if believing in such a place offers any sort of comfort here on Earth, then danged if I won't... ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell" 
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Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 9:26pm
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im not saying its bad to believe it, but i keep getting told by people i know that since im not a believer, im going to hell despite the good that i do. either way, id rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints i guess.
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Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 9:32pm
There are bums in every part of life. To those people that critisize your beleifs, go ahead and state your views. My only problem is when people openly bash religion simply because some small group of that religion didnt like their belifs. Thats just as bad as they are. ------------- Real Men play Tuba [IMG]http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1859/newsmall6xz.jpg"> PH33R TEH 1337 Dwarf! http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/log_off_user.asp" rel="nofollow - DONT CLICK ME!!1 |
Posted By: Destruction
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 9:34pm
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All Hail the Mighty Y'Plagu! ------------- u dont know what to do ur getting mottor boatted Men are from Magmar, women are from Venusaur. |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 9:43pm
------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 9:54pm
well tell your mom i agree 100% man, life on earth is definitely hell enough, especially for the stuff thats thrown at us |
Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 10:40pm
------------- "I AM a crossdresser." -Reb Cpl Forum Vice President RIP T&O Forum |
Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 10:44pm
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We're forgetting the Shenko Church of Heavy Righteousness.
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Posted By: TEHGANGSTER
Date Posted: 29 July 2006 at 11:02pm
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yup and a good one it is
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Posted By: Apu
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 12:49am
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Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 12:52am
yea, but thats the thing, you never know when your life is gonna change, you can get up tomorrow and get hit by another car (just an example). that, or you go to the doctor for a physical and find out you have cancer or diabetes or something, ya know? |
Posted By: Hitman
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 1:05am
Actually, isn't the banana is made like that so we would eat them and poop the seeds out in other places? ------------- |
Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 1:15am
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PRAISE ALLAH! dont ask Anyways, I go to a christian school which is really annoying considering the fact that I dont believe in "god" But I cant really tell anyone that because then I'd probly get kicked out so i get to sit there insainly annoying and I cant say anything about how they're religion is complete B/S ------------- "I AM a crossdresser." -Reb Cpl Forum Vice President RIP T&O Forum |
Posted By: Destruction
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 1:31am
You don't have to be a goody two-shoes. Express your opinion. It's not like you WANT to be there or are begging to go there. And if you get kicked out, oh well. I can hardly stand public schools, so I imagine I wouldn't last too long in a christian school. ------------- u dont know what to do ur getting mottor boatted Men are from Magmar, women are from Venusaur. |
Posted By: BARREL BREAK
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 3:13am
*Sniff
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Posted By: Destruction
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 4:01am
Saying "science" yields a 3 day suspension and loss of Bible privelages. ------------- u dont know what to do ur getting mottor boatted Men are from Magmar, women are from Venusaur. |
Posted By: battlefreak
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 12:30pm
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how many athiests are on here...? ------------- 
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 12:35pm
What ever happened to seeing God at the catholic retreat you went on? You can be athetist if you believe you saw God? Or are you now chalking that experience to a starving induced hullucenation? |
Posted By: battlefreak
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 12:43pm
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i cant stand athiests but we all lose our way at sum point in our life so i pray for those of u who dont belive in our saviour that u will one day see the light -------------
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 12:49pm
Don't worry, we feel the same. I never 'lost my way'- I was lucky enough not to be indoctrinated at birth into a fantasy that claims undeserved moreal superiority over others based on nothing but a book that's been revised and changed hundreds of time sin thousands of years. ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: Destruction
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 1:14pm
Haha...I used to go to a church camp and all of the bratty girls who like to fool around with the hawt guyz on free time were "feeling the grace of god wash over them" at the singing sessions. I sat in the back and laughed....and I kept sending calls over the staff radio frequency during prayer. "Dear god,..." RIIIIIIINNNNNGGG!
Thanks, Kirk, but I think we already know your standpoint. ------------- u dont know what to do ur getting mottor boatted Men are from Magmar, women are from Venusaur. |
Posted By: bassist11
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 2:13pm
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read this. http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0055/0055_01.asp - http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0055/0055_01.asp \ yes it deals with evolution. but for all the people who think science is enough, this ought to make you think a little. and i'm not trying to convert you or anything (just noticed that bottom part). just read the science parts. ------------- http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5504952"> 
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Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 2:30pm
Oh no, see that's what I'm saying. We don't have to sit there and yell our stuff. We can logically argue it... Oh and DT's mom is a heretic.... ------------- |
Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 2:35pm
thats pretty funny, i would say science every three days just to p*** them off. i wouldnt last a day in catholic school, your talking to the person who would bring rope, make a swiss chair and repell out of the highest story of the place. edit-then i would leave a note explaining the physics of how what i just did was possible |
Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 2:38pm
You know, I don't even know. When I came back from that retreat, I felt really weird. I don't like it. I think my church was up to something. As soon as I got to the place, I started having a weird feeling. It's kinda like I was brainwashed. But, I'm past that now. And I've realized how retarded it was. -------------
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 2:48pm
Actually, this particular Chick tract is an excellent argument for MORE science in schools - since virtually every "scientific" statement in the tract is incorrect. Chick makes up some fake science and then argues against it. Is this Whale again? |
Posted By: darkSIDEofMOON
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 3:09pm
so what? you live for the day, not the end. if i lived for the end, i would be worrying about everything i ate and getting a finger up my ass every year to check my prostate (i am only 23). but screw that. i have a great life, and many more do to, but choose to worry about getting hit by a car or cancer. if i die i die. if i lose my leg i will get a fake one and still do what i do now. if i am a veggie in bed, someone will pull the plug. i could care less if there is a god, but in my mind there is no god. proud to be athiest!!! and i will not throw my scientific **edited** in someone ones face and say it is true, because i hate when religious nuts do that to me. AND LEAVE RELIGION OUT OF POLITICS!!! |
Posted By: darkSIDEofMOON
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 3:10pm
alot if not most of religious schools are private and can boot you if they want. you pay to be there. |
Posted By: travis75
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 3:18pm
*clears throat* M-M-M-M-M-MULTIKILL ------------- Hey MPAA, Guess what? 09 f9 11 02 9d 74 e3 5b d8 41 56 c5 63 56 88 c0! |
Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 3:28pm
------------- "I AM a crossdresser." -Reb Cpl Forum Vice President RIP T&O Forum |
Posted By: Destruction
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 3:50pm
I know that, but the students don't pay to be there. The parents do. In most cases, I would assume, it's the parents trying to mold their child into what they want him/her to be instead of letting the child (and i mean at an age where they can fully understand both religion and atheism and understand the decision they're making) decide for themself. I was saying if I were in a christian school, I'd probably get the boot. There's no way i would let some self-righteous administration decide the way I am to dress everyday and be just another clone wandering through the hallowed hallways of a christian school. The monotony would be unbearable. ------------- u dont know what to do ur getting mottor boatted Men are from Magmar, women are from Venusaur. |
Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 4:04pm
------------- "I AM a crossdresser." -Reb Cpl Forum Vice President RIP T&O Forum |
Posted By: PaintballkidEPS
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 4:13pm
| i quote "i absolutely believe in god... and i absolutely hate the fudger" |
Posted By: oreomann33
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 4:44pm
WOOOO ------------- 
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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 4:55pm
does that mean LSD is the antichrist? ------------- "I AM a crossdresser." -Reb Cpl Forum Vice President RIP T&O Forum |
Posted By: BARREL BREAK
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 4:56pm
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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 4:58pm
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^ if LSD did the same thing as religion so you could then do away with religion. then in a sence its kinda like the anti-christ if ya think about it. ------------- "I AM a crossdresser." -Reb Cpl Forum Vice President RIP T&O Forum |
Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 5:38pm
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Alcohol: My anti-drug.
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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 5:40pm
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lol ------------- "I AM a crossdresser." -Reb Cpl Forum Vice President RIP T&O Forum |
Posted By: bassist11
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 6:21pm
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Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 6:33pm
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^^^^^^ K? |
Posted By: travis75
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 7:09pm
People like you are the reason people like me are atheists. ------------- Hey MPAA, Guess what? 09 f9 11 02 9d 74 e3 5b d8 41 56 c5 63 56 88 c0! |
Posted By: darkSIDEofMOON
Date Posted: 01 August 2006 at 2:39am
1) what the hell is that? i see something with a light bulb on top of it. 2) if this was actual news, you think we in America would have heard about it. 3) anyone could photoshop that. |
Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 01 August 2006 at 9:37am
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A Google search would have revealed that this is no photoshop. The Zeitun apparitions are no internet phenomenon. Plenty of Americans have heard of them. ------------- [IMG]http://i38.tinypic.com/aag8s8.jpg"> |
Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 01 August 2006 at 1:58pm
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Religion has 2 purposes, and 2 purposes only. Anyone who says otherwise is just trying to justify a life of delusion. 1: Offers hope of life after death. Death is the great mystery of life, and everyone is afraid of the unknown. Nobody wants to believe that they just stop existing, so the myth of heaven was created, to ease fear of death. 2: Offers an opportunity to lord over other people with no rational counter-argument. When you insist on believing in something that has no scientific or rational proof, you cant be swayed from that position by rational argument. Religion offers an unscrupulous person the opportunity to lead others around by the nose, and make money doing it. Its like being a politician but better, because the only rules you have to follow are those you create, as long as they fit in the social frame of what the idiots you lead around will believe. ------------- 
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Posted By: .Ryan
Date Posted: 01 August 2006 at 2:07pm
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Here here, Enos! In defense of religion. There has been much good done by a lot of religious groups and people. I'm a member of one group, despite my atheism, and I've personally been involved in helping a lot of people. I will say though, the good done most probably doesn't begin to stack up to the damage that has been done in it's name, but still. ------------- |
Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 01 August 2006 at 2:10pm
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You dont need religion to do good. I can go out and volunteer my time with no ulterior motive (i.e. getting more sheep to join my church). Why dont these damned churches put their money where their mouths are and stop building so many big frigging churches and use the money for something useful? Like charity? We dont need a church on every street corner. They dont all need a new building every 2 years. That alone proves that the church leaders are just out for personal gain, whether thats money or an inflated ego by being the biggest church in town. Dont get me wrong, Im a spiritual person. I just absolutely despise organized religion. -------------
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Posted By: darkSIDEofMOON
Date Posted: 01 August 2006 at 2:30pm
so great...still looks like a light bulb. anyone could have created that...or depending on the type of camera used it could be just a light emission. +1 for proving nothing. |
Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 01 August 2006 at 2:38pm
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My point was simply that before mocking people on the internet, you should at least take the time to Google/Yahoo whatever you are mocking them about, to avoid looking like a fool yourself. Your followup post tells me that even after my gentle reminder you still have not Googled Zeitun. You really ought to read before posting. ------------- [IMG]http://i38.tinypic.com/aag8s8.jpg"> |
Posted By: travis75
Date Posted: 01 August 2006 at 6:47pm
I could not agree with you more, Master Enos. I too have a strong dislike for the massive churches to whom people flock like sheep. It reminds me of the popularity contests back in middle school ------------- Hey MPAA, Guess what? 09 f9 11 02 9d 74 e3 5b d8 41 56 c5 63 56 88 c0! |
Posted By: Boss_DJ
Date Posted: 01 August 2006 at 6:58pm
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Posted By: battlefreak
Date Posted: 01 August 2006 at 7:38pm
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Posted By: mbro
Date Posted: 01 August 2006 at 7:59pm
2. He didn't say they didn't give to charity, just that they waste money on useless things that do nothing other than inflate their ego which could be better spent on charity. ------------- 
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