Shockers, ions, bob longs, PM6’s
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Topic: Shockers, ions, bob longs, PM6’s
Posted By: ihearthector
Subject: Shockers, ions, bob longs, PM6’s
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 10:08pm
| hey guys, i am new to this fourm, so any way, i am currently not on a paintball team, i am going to be one tho, i am being really serious abpout paintball, i am really good i think and want a good speendball gun. i want a gun that is easy to clean and repair, customizable, easy to use, fast, accuarate, and reliable. oh yea, and resonably priced, (idc if im payen 1000 dollars, just as long as i get what im payen for). i was lookin into the Shockers, ions, bob longs, PM6's. what one do u reccomend and y, is one better for me than the other? (for speedball). thanks guys |
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Posted By: a5Tpp789
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 10:46pm
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are you new if you are get a spyder imagine spyder electra is a speedball gun that is fast but rocking trigger isnt tourney legal but you could get a new trigger -------------  if you put 500 dollars into an A5 it is still an A5
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THEY ARE FAST I have one and use it if you get a anti chop bolt you could rip that thing and before spending 600$ on a gun then on the first clean break it then what? learn with a spyder e-marker Posted By: pimptastik
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 10:47pm
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go get a used DM4 or DM5 or PM5 they are cheap and rip
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Posted By: ihearthector
Date Posted: 30 July 2006 at 11:01pm
| i dont want a dm4, i wood rather get one of the guns that i metioned, and im not new, i have an uped a5 but i want a new gun, thats besides the point, what do u think, i want a gun that is easy to clean and repair, customizable, easy to use, fast, accuarate, and reliable. oh yea, and resonably priced, Shockers, ions, bob longs, PM6's? |
Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 31 July 2006 at 12:15am
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I get the feeling that you don't know what you are getting into. If you are going to get a "high end" gun, start with the Ion. It is the most idiot-proof of the guns you mentioned. |
Posted By: ihearthector
Date Posted: 31 July 2006 at 7:38am
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No, I really do know about all of these guns and that they need to be lubed after each use, can/shood only run on compressed air, need an electric hopper to keep up, need to clean eyes, shood fine tune the gun such as the regulator and then trigger, and more....i know how to do this stuff, really, i know alot about paintball, i have a jersey and pants and everything, and know alot and play alot, so what is the best gun out of the ones i metioned, Shockers, ions, bob longs, PM6's? |
Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 31 July 2006 at 8:22am
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If you know all about them, why cant you decide? I would honestly look into a used DM5. They go for a good price used and are all of the things you listed. ------------- Pumpker'd; (V.) When a pump player runs up and shoots you at point blank range because you thought 20bps made you good. |
Posted By: TEHGANGSTER
Date Posted: 31 July 2006 at 11:30am
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dm5 for pm5, you dont sound educated enough to make an educated guess, and dont get a shocker they are the combined work of satan and hitler, now where is that picture of him......dang
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Posted By: ihearthector
Date Posted: 31 July 2006 at 2:37pm
| ohk,um what gun is better i know they can both run at a low pressue amd they have good regs, but whihc one is better, the pm6 or shocker vision? also, does anyone know when dye will come out with a DM7? |
Posted By: cus98tom
Date Posted: 31 July 2006 at 5:31pm
| Ferrari II ??? |
Posted By: ihearthector
Date Posted: 31 July 2006 at 5:35pm
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what, can some one answer my question please? |
Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 31 July 2006 at 5:45pm
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Good observation. I agree. Neither? I don't like the design of either gun. |
cus98tom wrote:Posted By: tippmannfreak
Date Posted: 31 July 2006 at 6:26pm
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i'm guessin this kid is 13 and has a rich daddy... good for him (or her as their name hopefully implies). ------------- Tippmann 98 Custom Psycho Ballistics X-Chamber P.B. Drop Forward Polished internals Lapco Bigshot 12" Macro Line Rufus Dog Double Trigger Dye Stickies Polished Receiver Halves |
Posted By: Rare-Faction
Date Posted: 31 July 2006 at 11:14pm
Well, it seems to me that if you 'knew all about the guns' then you'd have realized that each is a good marker/brand that works well for thousands of players, and it's really all a matter of how much you personally like the trigger frame and available triggers on a particular marker. There is no 'best gun', there is only what you prefer over what someone else prefers. Also, they are not 'Bob Longs', Bob Long is a player-turned-businessman/coach who created the Intimidator line of markers, which is what you're referring to Short version - PERSONAL PREFERENCE ------------- 
Central Ohio Pirates http://www.lolligag.net - My Band, Lolligag |
Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 01 August 2006 at 6:57am
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but they both have a spool-valve, so they're pretty identical... ...get a promaster before you get a $1000 marker... $1000+ markers arn't like your tippy... they can break if you unscrew something wrong... and you have to send it to the factory for a couple months. welcome back, ferarri. ------------- X |
Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 01 August 2006 at 1:40pm
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between a pm6 and shocker... i'd get a pm6. but i'm a big fan of the matrix line, and not as big of a fan as shockers. |
Posted By: andrewc
Date Posted: 01 August 2006 at 5:04pm
| Nerve! |
Posted By: MeanMan
Date Posted: 01 August 2006 at 5:38pm
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^^thats what i was thinking, id say get a promaster. They are amazing gun, and they are $370 new, and you can up them with new regs, valves, trigger, and the usual. They are amazing guns, personally, i dont like the shocker frame. for around $460 you can get a Bob Long Defiant2- dont know much about them $410- Nerve- pretty much upped to the max out of the box $370-Promaster- upgrades are coming out more and more ------------- 
hybrid-sniper~"To be honest, if I see a player still using an Impulse I'm going to question their motives." |
Posted By: ihearthector
Date Posted: 02 August 2006 at 5:29pm
| what do u guys prefer, a pm6 or a vision, thats what im down too? |
Posted By: TEHGANGSTER
Date Posted: 02 August 2006 at 5:31pm
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no, you are ferrari returned from the dead, and get a pm6 out of those two, but you really sound like you are seven, refer to meanman for reccomendations, you arent ready for that gun yet, you dont know anything about them
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Posted By: Rico's Revenge
Date Posted: 02 August 2006 at 5:33pm
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... I like trolling... my favorite way to fish. ------------- "Thats right, I play pump... your girlfriend borrowed my last set of batteries." "How many times a second are you going to miss me before I shoot you?" Dave Ellis Rocks!!! |
Posted By: ihearthector
Date Posted: 02 August 2006 at 5:43pm
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any one else please leave a suggestion |
Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 02 August 2006 at 6:40pm
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But I thought you had a Dynasty Shocker! Were you LYING TO US?! |
Posted By: ihearthector
Date Posted: 02 August 2006 at 6:53pm
| im not ferrari4756, i didnt say anything because i dont wanna turn this thread into a thread about if im ferrari or not, and im not ferrari, so can u please leave other suggestions, what gun do u prefer, the PM6 or the Vision Shocker? |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 02 August 2006 at 6:57pm
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What hopper are you looking into getting? And barrel? ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell" 
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 02 August 2006 at 7:10pm
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1. How did you know what the exact username was? We never told you what it was specifically. Why would you go look for your spitting image? What would there be to gain in that? 2. You ask the same stupid questions on this name as your other username. 3. The typing format is similar. A lot of "pity me, you guys are baddies" and the same basic grammatical structure. "blankety blank blankers, the x or the y?" You are Ferrari. You are still a fool, and a liar. A bad one at that. |
Posted By: ihearthector
Date Posted: 02 August 2006 at 7:23pm
| im not ferrari really, i knew the exat user name and y u goys are complainin because i looked on the other threads, and i didnt say u guys r baddies i said that im not ferrari, so please answer my question |
Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 02 August 2006 at 7:36pm
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Yeah, Ferrari whined a lot too. Basically, what you just said was " I didnt do anything wrong, why are you guys so meen, plz answer my question" Ferrari did the EXACT SAME THING! I am pretty much positive you are who we all think ou are. |
Posted By: paintballinbill
Date Posted: 02 August 2006 at 11:56pm
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^^^hahahah UB3R-PWN3D!!! i've read this whole thread, and judging by his/her spelling, grammar, knowledge, etc., i'd say that he/she isn't ready for a high-end marker. go with an ion. ------------- 98 Custom milled;painted;J&J Ceramic;X-Chamber;R/T;Cyclone. |
Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 03 August 2006 at 1:14am
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Best semi-automatic marker is the Macdev Cyborg 06. 2000 paintballs on a 68/4500 and is the fastest marker recorded at 33bps. Its is also very light and comes with a great stock barrel.
If your ferrari I don'r care. If this helps good, but if this was a prank, well I got some good info out to the world. ------------- 
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Posted By: ihearthector
Date Posted: 03 August 2006 at 8:30am
| is there any professional teams that use the Cyborg? |
Posted By: Rico's Revenge
Date Posted: 03 August 2006 at 11:43am
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------------- "Thats right, I play pump... your girlfriend borrowed my last set of batteries." "How many times a second are you going to miss me before I shoot you?" Dave Ellis Rocks!!! |
Posted By: TEHGANGSTER
Date Posted: 03 August 2006 at 12:08pm
probably but we arent search engines are we........ -------------
I am a leaf on the wind, watch how i soar. |
Posted By: ihearthector
Date Posted: 03 August 2006 at 1:06pm
| i tried search engines they came up with like rsults with sites that sell the gun- would any one you like to give me a phrase to put in the search engine that might work??? |
Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 03 August 2006 at 1:13pm
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Not any significant teams in the US. Rage used them briefly. |
Posted By: ihearthector
Date Posted: 03 August 2006 at 1:48pm
| Ok, Thanks Very Much |
Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 03 August 2006 at 2:04pm
Well it isn't the best pump..... And it is the best out there. Prove me wrong. -------------
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 03 August 2006 at 2:29pm
Go ahead and prove yourself RIGHT. They are fantastic guns, but no gun is "best." |
Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 03 August 2006 at 4:08pm
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So far they are recorder as the fastes markers. They wiegh in at 2lb and have great efficiency (2000 shots on a 68/4500 tank). They are also $975.
Hybrid is way to smart for me.... -------------
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 03 August 2006 at 4:16pm
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If they are taking the lead, that means they are best. So, you kinda contradicted yourself. |
Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 03 August 2006 at 4:27pm
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Ok. Now I will not contridict myself. I believe they are the best. -------------
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 03 August 2006 at 4:40pm
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Ok, cool. Here's something you may not have seen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DKWcTyf1AE - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DKWcTyf1AE
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Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 03 August 2006 at 4:49pm
I never said it could go 33bps on semi-auto. So what's the point? 
And it can go 33bps with paint. -------------
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 03 August 2006 at 4:52pm
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I was just showing you a video of the gun you are infatuated with... overreaction to the max. That was not semi either. But don't freak out; it was only a Reloader B. |
Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 03 August 2006 at 5:21pm
I'm sorry. I forgot put my confusion face on that post because I couldn't understand what you were implying. I'm cool with the vid (I've watched a bunch of them). Just was confused by why you posted. Sorry if I came off angry. -------------
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Posted By: Mateo
Date Posted: 03 August 2006 at 7:10pm
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http://www.pbreview.com - http://www.pbreview.com it'll answer your questions |
Posted By: popham
Date Posted: 06 August 2006 at 10:35am
| boblong but u probley cant handle it |
Posted By: TEHGANGSTER
Date Posted: 06 August 2006 at 12:31pm
no you lose zak vetters rt mag shot like 34.5 with a qloader here ya go-enjoy, borgs arent the best, cuz anyt number of custom guns are better, and speed isnt the only thing that makes a gun best......it doesnt matter in tourneys anyway........you cant shoot that fast with your fingers so it doesnt matter http://www.zakvetter.com/paintball_videos/34bps.mov - http://www.zakvetter.com/paintball_videos/34bps.mov -------------
I am a leaf on the wind, watch how i soar. |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 07 August 2006 at 12:18am
33bps isn't that fast.... My shocker can hit 37 with a cheetah'd halo... Most vikings could get 2 cases off of a 68/3k fill 06 Ego's around going for 800-900 NIB in alot of places. The angel 1, sl66, 06 ego, and all the shockers are < 2lbs. Keep going... ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 07 August 2006 at 2:09am
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My Cheetah'd and Boosted Halo doesn't even DROP 37, let alone feed it. And I'm not so sure a Shocker can do 37, either. There is no way that a Viking can get two cases from a 68/3k. Apparently, a case is about right for a Viking from a 68/4500.
I hope I missed some sarcasm or something. |
Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 07 August 2006 at 4:57am
but yeah, we've answered your question a couple times, ferarri, but you keep reasking it. and who cares is a pro team uses a specific marker. they get paid to shoot a marker. that's how the paintballitics work. ------------- X |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 07 August 2006 at 5:09am
I'm gonna laugh if it wasn't Ferrari, but some poor kid who wanted honest advice.  ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 07 August 2006 at 5:12am
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 07 August 2006 at 10:59am
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Hybrid, if your cheetah'd halo can't drop 38+ on force feed mode(lvl 5), then something is wrong. But yes, my shocker + adjustable input tank + cheetah'd halo = 37 bps. That's not even close to the top with today's guns. Hell, angels have had 31 for 2 + years. And both of my friends vikings (one is an Immortal, other is a Crusader) get well over a case off of a full fill.
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Posted By: TEHGANGSTER
Date Posted: 07 August 2006 at 6:09pm
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yup
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 07 August 2006 at 11:26pm
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Shhh. Men are talking. So, Usaf, not to doubt you because I know you have your head on straight, but why have I never seen a video of an Angel doing a true 31? We both know the LCD readout is not valid, afterall. Your Shocker doing 37? Come on. Get a video of that and you could easily claim having the fastest marker. Your e-penis would swell to epic proportions, and that is always good... My Boosted Cheetah will not drop 37. I don't have any reason to believe there is something wrong with it. What the hell are you talking about with the modes? There's no modes on the cheetah (other than auto or manual unjam) When you say {paraphrase} "that's no where close to todays guns..." no. Just no freaking way there's anything anywhere close to being faster than 37. And I seriously doubt you got 37 anyway... I really hope you aren't being completely serious, but vids or shens. |