What’s the BEST Nitro\HPA Tank?
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Topic: What’s the BEST Nitro\HPA Tank?
Posted By: RevoXT
Subject: What’s the BEST Nitro\HPA Tank?
Date Posted: 17 August 2006 at 7:21pm
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I've decided NOT to get an expansion chamber an instead just get a HPA tank.. what's a good one? I wanna have ATLEAST 800-1000 shots to the tank thanks! ------------- Tippmann A-5 -Shocktech Drop -Super R\T -QEV -JCS Powertube -BT Sight -Flatline + Metadyne Shroud -R.I.S. Foregrip -Stock -C02 20OZ Anti-Siphon -X-Core EXP Chamber -Macro-Line Tippmann C-3 |
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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 17 August 2006 at 7:27pm
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NitroDuck.
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Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 17 August 2006 at 7:39pm
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Crossfire 68/4500 ------------- Pumpker'd; (V.) When a pump player runs up and shoots you at point blank range because you thought 20bps made you good. |
Posted By: spudcrazy
Date Posted: 17 August 2006 at 7:45pm
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Without a doubt, the best!!!! And, they have fantastic customer service..... ------------- http://www.thelloydsonline.com/paintball - SPUDCRAZY http://www.oldmanmilitia.com"> 
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sinisterNorth wrote:Posted By: CLos98C
Date Posted: 17 August 2006 at 8:29pm
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Or NitroDuck. ------------- 
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Posted By: UV Halo
Date Posted: 17 August 2006 at 8:39pm
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How can anyone say without some sort of flow rate and PSI consistancy test? I wouldn't listen to somebody's opinion on what is the 'best' tank, when they cost more than $100. I would however, listen to opinions on what is a 'good' tank since, in my experience there are good tanks (Crossfire, Dye) and bad tanks (ACI Bulldogs) and this is based on reliability in my experience. For what it's worth, I've got a PMI Pure Energy 68/4500 and I personally like my Dye 71/4500 better (same width, slightly longer, and darn near the same weight). Find a reliable one that fits your budget for the size you want, and you will be happy as long as you're comparing similar types (Steel, Fiber, Carbon Fiber, etc). ------------- M98C- W/QwkStrpCut Comp Air & Palmer Fatty Stab Gas-Thru Stock Lapco Sight Rail W/ADCO 30MM EDOT Qloader W/ CMS Freak SS W/Stif-Tip * Flatline * Armson Stealth |
Posted By: spudcrazy
Date Posted: 17 August 2006 at 9:10pm
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Well, if you do a little research, you can find flow rates and PSI consistancy and such. It just so happens that Crossfire regulators have the quickest recovery of all the tanks currently on the paintball market. All modern HPA tanks have adequate flow rate to "charge" any marker on a shot by shot basis. It's recharge rate that qualifies HPA tanks, rather the regulator on the tank. Most HPA tanks are one of only a few tank manufacturers, Luxfer, etc. It's the reg that makes the tank. When you purchase an HPA tank, you want to know what the best regulator is!!!! On a "competing" forum, an electrical engineer actually set up a test rig that measured recharge rates of various manufacturers of tank regs and Crossfire beat all of the popular brands, including NitroDuck, Smart Parts and Pure Energy. Although a few were very close. A "quick and easy" is to put your tank on your marker, shoot it and watch the reg needle move. The Crossfire barely drops and recovers within, something like 10ms... ------------- http://www.thelloydsonline.com/paintball - SPUDCRAZY http://www.oldmanmilitia.com">
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Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 17 August 2006 at 9:43pm
| Yes, crossfire have been known for their regs. I believe if you really didn't like the reg you get with the tank of your choice that isn't crossfire, you could buy a new reg from crossfire. I don't know if crossfire still comes with that insanely large guage, but I would rather have a mini guage. |
Posted By: UV Halo
Date Posted: 17 August 2006 at 10:05pm
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I agree that the reg is the biggest factor but, for some, tanks matter too (weight, size options, coating, etc). The luxfer on m ACI bulldog is hella light but, the reg is broke on that one, and it's time to hydro-stat it and, I think they are no longer in business since their website hasn't been updated (under construction) in over a year. Nitroduck Carbon fiber tanks are the wicked. Can you provide a source for the reviews? You can PM it to me. I'm disappointed in that not even Warpig has done an objective review. They did mention that Crossfire routinely does competitive tests but, no telling how fair, or honest they are since it's not an independent test. The quick and dirty test isn't a good one though since most tanks don't have output gauges anymore. But, with either my Dye, or My PMI, the output reg on m Palmer Fatty Stab doesn't look like it does anything other than vibrate almost imperceptably :-D ------------- M98C- W/QwkStrpCut Comp Air & Palmer Fatty Stab Gas-Thru Stock Lapco Sight Rail W/ADCO 30MM EDOT Qloader W/ CMS Freak SS W/Stif-Tip * Flatline * Armson Stealth |
Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 17 August 2006 at 10:25pm
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Macdev Conquest. No contest, at least in the adjustable realm. For presets I'd go for a Legionair or Crossfire reg. |
Posted By: spudcrazy
Date Posted: 17 August 2006 at 11:02pm
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I'll do some searching around. I looked but I can't find the article. I've put in a PM to the moderator of "that" forum. When I find it, I'll let you know....BTW, you can send your ACI to Crossfire and they'll hydro-test the tank and then put one of their regs on it for like $45. BTW, NitroDuck invented the screw-in HPA regulator. I believe they use a Luxfer shell for their tanks and then they have their patented (I think they finally got the patent) TUFF Skin resin put on it with their label. I could be wrong on this, though, but I'm pretty sure. Crossfire does have a patent on their regulator technology, though. BTW, my gauge is a mini-gauge, but they, like on any other tank, can be swapped out easily. UV Halo, I forgot about the fact that Tippy's don't have an output gauge. I have a Palmers on my Tippmann and I did put on a gauge to see what the output pressure is on my tanks. ------------- http://www.thelloydsonline.com/paintball - SPUDCRAZY http://www.oldmanmilitia.com">
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Posted By: RevoXT
Date Posted: 17 August 2006 at 11:09pm
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*Whew* that tank above is 210-240$ + Shipping... Is it really worth spending that much or should I just get an X-Chamber and Anti-Siphon C02 Tank? ------------- Tippmann A-5 -Shocktech Drop -Super R\T -QEV -JCS Powertube -BT Sight -Flatline + Metadyne Shroud -R.I.S. Foregrip -Stock -C02 20OZ Anti-Siphon -X-Core EXP Chamber -Macro-Line Tippmann C-3 |
Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 17 August 2006 at 11:21pm
| It's an A-5. You don't need some triple-throwdown tank. Pretty much any tank will work, performance will be similar. You wont outrun the tank, regardless. |
Posted By: spudcrazy
Date Posted: 17 August 2006 at 11:41pm
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You can find a good used Crossfire 68/4500 for around $100. I got mine for $75 from PaintballClassifieds.com. It's hydro is good for another 3 years. I got it a year ago. Maybe I just got lucky....Just make sure for any blow-back style marker, you get a high pressure output reg on your tank.... ------------- http://www.thelloydsonline.com/paintball - SPUDCRAZY http://www.oldmanmilitia.com">
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Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 18 August 2006 at 4:58am
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I have a Crossfire 114ci/3000psi tank that works wonderfully. I have a 114ci/3000psi Nitroduck on the way that I'm sure will work just as well. Ebay is a wonderful site to find bargains. Between those two tanks, I've spent $170. Not too shabby.
But if I had to pick a cylinder and reg, I'd probably have to go with the Crossfire since it is the only one I've had experience with. ------------- 
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Posted By: RevoXT
Date Posted: 19 August 2006 at 12:17am
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I called Tippmann to question the performance of HPA on their markers. They said that it's not THAT much better if you compare the differences on other markers (Ions, Shockers, Angels) since the Tippmanns are BUILT to use C02, Anti-Siphon\X-Chamber is supposed to basically make it as effective as HPA, However on guns like Spyders they said you would notice a drastic difference because of how the gun is made. ------------- Tippmann A-5 -Shocktech Drop -Super R\T -QEV -JCS Powertube -BT Sight -Flatline + Metadyne Shroud -R.I.S. Foregrip -Stock -C02 20OZ Anti-Siphon -X-Core EXP Chamber -Macro-Line Tippmann C-3 |
Posted By: spudcrazy
Date Posted: 22 August 2006 at 2:11pm
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Finally, I've found some of the numbers, but I can't find any info on the setup. Unfortunately, NitroDuck is not on the list. But here are the numbers....Sorry it took so long.... This is a list of HP tanks and their test results. ------------- http://www.thelloydsonline.com/paintball - SPUDCRAZY http://www.oldmanmilitia.com">
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Posted By: vinnya42
Date Posted: 22 August 2006 at 3:50pm
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It looks like PMI is the same as crossfire. I have a PMI 72/3000 steel tank and got 700 shots out of my Custom pro, now with the LPK I get about 800 shots. I have 2 of them and that is plenty of air for 2 days of play which equals 2 weeks since I only get to play on sat. Vince |
Posted By: Clark Kent
Date Posted: 22 August 2006 at 3:56pm
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All preset 68/4500 fiber-wrapped tanks will be in that price range, and if you want 800+ shots, then 68/4500 is the size for you. You can save money by going to a 3000 psi tank, but then you will be spending more time filling than playing. |