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Category: Paintball Equipment
Forum Name: Which Gun is Best
Forum Description: Need Advice? Ask the pros.
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Topic: Dumb poll
Posted By: Tippmann_playa
Subject: Dumb poll
Date Posted: 02 September 2006 at 2:25am
I personaly think that the PCS US 5 needs to be taken to court..doesnt Tippmann have a patent on the A-5...cause this PCS US 5 is remarkably close...in looks not quality. Tell me your thoughts



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Tippmann A-5
APE Rampage
68/3000(remote)
Collapsible Carbine Stock
JCS Double Finger
Flatline w/ Battle Shroud
14' Progressive Rifled
Squeeshies
Lightning Rod
Vortex Mod
Sly Profit
EMRD



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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 02 September 2006 at 2:33am

You're oversimplifying to the max.



Posted By: KillerBD
Date Posted: 02 September 2006 at 8:43am
Of course A-5 is the best hands down. The PCS US-5 is just a cheap copy cat.


Posted By: tippmannfreak
Date Posted: 04 September 2006 at 12:11am
and they're both knock offs of the mp5 body. one could almost as easily argue that pirahna steals body styles from spyder (or vica versa) point being a lot of paintguns look similar.

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Tippmann 98 Custom
Psycho Ballistics X-Chamber
P.B. Drop Forward
Polished internals
Lapco Bigshot 12"
Macro Line
Rufus Dog Double Trigger
Dye Stickies
Polished Receiver Halves


Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 04 September 2006 at 12:13am
Body designs are not patented.


Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 04 September 2006 at 12:56am

hah ok im sure you all know that im the only one on the forum with a us-5

the us-5 is in no way a copycat of the a-5 as like tippmann freak said they use the mp-5 body.

if youve ever held them and looked at them up close, you would see that they are nothing the same.

don't argue on the quality as i think they are the same quality. but with the us-5 you get more for less money. (the electronic i mean)

it's not like i was forced into the us-5, i did chose it over an a5 (tough decision but i dont regret it)



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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 04 September 2006 at 12:57am
and i see you also ike in canada cause if you live near me we can set the record straight as to whats better.... or just fight about it

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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 04 September 2006 at 1:29pm

Carl is on crack. Ignore him.

The US5 breaks down alot........



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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 04 September 2006 at 7:10pm
Originally posted by SSOK SSOK wrote:

The US5 breaks down alot........

explain cause that's probably not the gun.

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Posted By: madcat10
Date Posted: 04 September 2006 at 7:28pm
lol


Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 04 September 2006 at 9:12pm

but i do aggree that this was a dumb poll.

cause this is the tippmann forum and people are obviously gona prefer the tippmann gun

if this was a pcs forum than people would say the us-5 is better.

you own a us-5, you think it's better, you own an a5, you think its better



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Posted By: Tippmann_playa
Date Posted: 07 September 2006 at 11:02pm
Good points..I am aware that the A-5 and the Us-5 are modled after a MP5/HK5 Bodies...but I was dissappointed...I want to see some oringinality. My buddy owns A Us-5 he but an e-grip in..but it didnt compare to mine. So I think that the A-5 is by far a better MOD gun and I also think there better on reliability

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Tippmann A-5
APE Rampage
68/3000(remote)
Collapsible Carbine Stock
JCS Double Finger
Flatline w/ Battle Shroud
14' Progressive Rifled
Squeeshies
Lightning Rod
Vortex Mod
Sly Profit
EMRD


Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 07 September 2006 at 11:42pm

not necessarily on reliability

yes for now the a5 has more mods but pcs is releasing a few items a month for the us-5 now (the most recent being a sweet double trigger)



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Posted By: RicWhic414
Date Posted: 08 September 2006 at 2:47pm
hate them both.. 

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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 08 September 2006 at 5:25pm

/\

haha



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Posted By: Tippmann_playa
Date Posted: 08 September 2006 at 9:23pm
Originally posted by RicWhic414 RicWhic414 wrote:

hate them both.. 



Blantinly dissagree... wow how can you -HATE- the A-5? And I'll give it to the Us-5 I like it of course..but I like A-5 I think you've been missinformed if you hate either...


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Tippmann A-5
APE Rampage
68/3000(remote)
Collapsible Carbine Stock
JCS Double Finger
Flatline w/ Battle Shroud
14' Progressive Rifled
Squeeshies
Lightning Rod
Vortex Mod
Sly Profit
EMRD


Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 09 September 2006 at 11:43am
think hes kidding as he owns one

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Posted By: tecumseh
Date Posted: 09 September 2006 at 7:50pm
meh for both of them

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what?


Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 18 September 2006 at 8:14pm

pmi copys everyone's ideas...  but they also improve on some things..

Piranha= Spyder

Us-5= A-5

Omen= Cocker

Pimp= Impulse

Minion= Dye Matrix/proto

really, they do make improvements.  the Us-5's improvement was the inexpensiveness.  I don't know what the big deal about it is though.  People will obviously favor the real deal...  And also, just because they "copy" other companies, doesn't mean they don't try to make a quality product.  Empire "copied" Odessy's Halo shells, noone complains about that.  The only reason they do it, is because the product has already been made.  All they have to do is improve on it.



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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 20 September 2006 at 11:12pm
backhanded compliment?

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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 20 September 2006 at 11:24pm
Originally posted by Styro Folme Styro Folme wrote:

pmi copys everyone's ideas...  but they also improve on some things..

Piranha= Spyder

Us-5= A-5

Omen= Cocker

Pimp= Impulse

Minion= Dye Matrix/proto

really, they do make improvements.  the Us-5's improvement was the inexpensiveness.  I don't know what the big deal about it is though.  People will obviously favor the real deal...  And also, just because they "copy" other companies, doesn't mean they don't try to make a quality product.  Empire "copied" Odessy's Halo shells, noone complains about that.  The only reason they do it, is because the product has already been made.  All they have to do is improve on it.

Given that everything about the Reloader B is identical to it's Halo bretheren (except for the board), I'm sure there were "talks" between the two companies.



Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 21 September 2006 at 9:59am
but you have to come to the realization that 90% of paintball things are copied ideas.

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Posted By: 98snipinhoes
Date Posted: 23 September 2006 at 7:00pm
Originally posted by KillerBD KillerBD wrote:

Of course A-5 is the best hands down. The PCS US-5 is just a cheap copy cat.


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98 custom
14 inch pathfinder
drop forward
rufusdawg x2 blade trig
m4 stock
polished internals
response trigger soon to come


Posted By: Tippmania
Date Posted: 24 September 2006 at 3:52pm
Originally posted by tippmannfreak tippmannfreak wrote:

and they're both knock offs of the mp5 body. one could almost as easily argue that pirahna steals body styles from spyder (or vica versa) point being a lot of paintguns look similar.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but Piranha was out before Spyder....Their R-6 was a dream gun, cheap now (60$) but works so good outta the package!


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Tippmann A-5
- Shocktech Drop + On\Off
- Super R\T
- Q.E.V.
- Red Hot Powertube
- Stock
- Flatline + Metadyne Shroud
- R.I.S. Foregrip
- X-Core
- Macro
- BT Fixed Sight Rail


Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 26 September 2006 at 11:52am

I could be wrong but it appears that Tippmann has given rights to several companies to do their own spin on Tippmann manufactured guns.

Is this not the case with the pcs us5?  I would get one today if it didn't have Spyder barrel threads.  Makes me a bit sick to my stomach because I really want one.



Posted By: maddog312us
Date Posted: 26 September 2006 at 5:55pm

Originally posted by Tippmania Tippmania wrote:

Originally posted by tippmannfreak tippmannfreak wrote:

and they're both knock offs of the mp5 body. one could almost as easily argue that pirahna steals body styles from spyder (or vica versa) point being a lot of paintguns look similar.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but Piranha was out before Spyder....Their R-6 was a dream gun, cheap now (60$) but works so good outta the package!

pmi was started in 1982 and kingman wasn't until 1992 i just looked it up.



Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 26 September 2006 at 6:04pm

you can easily change the barrel threading, the us-5 and a5 barrel inserts are the same.

and tippmann started paintball in 86



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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 26 September 2006 at 6:40pm
Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

and tippmann started paintball in 86

Wrong. PMI was founded in 1982, but I suppose the starter company in paintball was Nelson. (1981) 



Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 26 September 2006 at 9:53pm

no i didn't mean they started paintball.... not that dumb

 

i meant they started in paintball in 86



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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 26 September 2006 at 10:03pm

Aha. I got ya.

Your choice of words tends to be vague and unclear.



Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 26 September 2006 at 11:45pm
oh but is they are?

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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 27 September 2006 at 12:35am
Originally posted by hybrid-sniper hybrid-sniper wrote:

Originally posted by Styro Folme Styro Folme wrote:

pmi copys everyone's ideas...  but they also improve on some things..

Piranha= Spyder

Us-5= A-5

Omen= Cocker

Pimp= Impulse

Minion= Dye Matrix/proto

really, they do make improvements.  the Us-5's improvement was the inexpensiveness.  I don't know what the big deal about it is though.  People will obviously favor the real deal...  And also, just because they "copy" other companies, doesn't mean they don't try to make a quality product.  Empire "copied" Odessy's Halo shells, noone complains about that.  The only reason they do it, is because the product has already been made.  All they have to do is improve on it.

Given that everything about the Reloader B is identical to it's Halo bretheren (except for the board), I'm sure there were "talks" between the two companies.

true...  but that was an example...  admit it, i'm right. 

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Posted By: Tippmann_playa
Date Posted: 12 October 2006 at 11:05pm
wow what a succesfull convo. I just wish that the A-5 could be unique to the paintball world... even though it is modeled after a MP5/HK5 body. But you guys should understand more that any group of people that the A-5 is an outstanding gun. And I would of just liked it to be the one and only.


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Tippmann A-5
APE Rampage
68/3000(remote)
Collapsible Carbine Stock
JCS Double Finger
Flatline w/ Battle Shroud
14' Progressive Rifled
Squeeshies
Lightning Rod
Vortex Mod
Sly Profit
EMRD


Posted By: Swede Johanson
Date Posted: 13 October 2006 at 2:08am
Has anyone been to the PCS forum?  It looks just like the Tippmann forum.


Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 13 October 2006 at 10:00am
Originally posted by Tippmann_playa Tippmann_playa wrote:


Originally posted by RicWhic414 RicWhic414 wrote:

hate them both..
Blantinly dissagree... wow how can you -HATE- the A-5? And I'll give it to the Us-5 I like it of course..but I like A-5 I think you've been missinformed if you hate either...

I hate the A-5, with an undending passion. And I don't like the US-5 eitehr. I own one so I don't think you can call me misinformed.

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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 13 October 2006 at 6:41pm

Originally posted by Swede Johanson Swede Johanson wrote:

Has anyone been to the PCS forum?  It looks just like the Tippmann forum.

OMG THEY COPIED OUR CRAPPY SOFTWARE TOO!?



Posted By: Tippmann_playa
Date Posted: 14 October 2006 at 2:23pm
you cant hate the A-5. Why in the hell would you hate it? And you also own one..makes no sense.

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Tippmann A-5
APE Rampage
68/3000(remote)
Collapsible Carbine Stock
JCS Double Finger
Flatline w/ Battle Shroud
14' Progressive Rifled
Squeeshies
Lightning Rod
Vortex Mod
Sly Profit
EMRD


Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 14 October 2006 at 2:48pm
Originally posted by Tippmann_playa Tippmann_playa wrote:

you cant hate the A-5. Why in the hell would you hate it? And you also own one..makes no sense.

I own one, therefore I hate it. When you suddenly move from woodsball to speedball, you start to see the negatives. Exspecially when you play snake and snapshooting is essiental.

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Posted By: Tippmann_playa
Date Posted: 23 October 2006 at 10:48am

You now play speedball? You have a R/T set up? Go E-grip. I think that the A-5 works better as a woodsball gun. But thats just my opinion.



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Tippmann A-5
APE Rampage
68/3000(remote)
Collapsible Carbine Stock
JCS Double Finger
Flatline w/ Battle Shroud
14' Progressive Rifled
Squeeshies
Lightning Rod
Vortex Mod
Sly Profit
EMRD


Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 23 October 2006 at 11:13am
Originally posted by Tippmann_playa Tippmann_playa wrote:

You now play speedball? You have a R/T set up? Go E-grip. I think that the A-5 works better as a woodsball gun. But thats just my opinion.


I do have an E-grip. I have ne with W.A.S and got one with the old board accidentally. I'm selling my whole though so I didn't think updating my sig was worth it, atleast until my new gear arrives.

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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 23 October 2006 at 3:43pm
stop bringing this back

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Posted By: Tippmann_playa
Date Posted: 27 October 2006 at 12:58pm
Dont reply to this post if you dont want it brought back. And it's not upto you weather it's here or not..so stop your complaining.

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Tippmann A-5
APE Rampage
68/3000(remote)
Collapsible Carbine Stock
JCS Double Finger
Flatline w/ Battle Shroud
14' Progressive Rifled
Squeeshies
Lightning Rod
Vortex Mod
Sly Profit
EMRD



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