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Topic: 12 or 14 inch
Posted By: TIPPY98ACT
Subject: 12 or 14 inch
Date Posted: 03 September 2006 at 3:28pm
O.K I have done some research on this and I am NEWB who wants to learn all I can. Also paintball isn't that big in my area and all I have is you guys for my questions. I have noticed that alot of you guys have 14 inch barrels. The question is why? I have read that a paintball needs a minimum length of 8 inchs to reach top speed and stabilize. Also I have read that a longer barrel doesn't make your gun shoot further.It will actually cause more friction and you have turn up your velocity. Which will then make you use more co2. The guys at Tippmann informed me that there is NO difference in accuracy between a 12 inch or 14. Also It was just a matter of looks. so why does every one want 2 more inchs of friction and a longer gun that uses more co2??? Is it really just for looks or am I missing something.



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Posted By: KillerBD
Date Posted: 03 September 2006 at 7:17pm
Its not just for looks, barrel length affects your performance no matter what people say.


Posted By: RevoXT
Date Posted: 03 September 2006 at 8:19pm
Dude, you've asked this before.. it's getting annoying now. As we have told you before, 12 inch and 14 inch are basically the same in performance, 14 is better for "POKING AROUND" however they will shoot the same. I personally like longer barrels so that I can poke through trees.. it all depends on how you play, anything above 14inch is pointless though

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Tippmann A-5
-Shocktech Drop
-Super R\T
-QEV
-JCS Powertube
-BT Sight
-Flatline + Metadyne Shroud
-R.I.S. Foregrip
-Stock
-C02 20OZ Anti-Siphon
-X-Core EXP Chamber
-Macro-Line
Tippmann C-3


Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 03 September 2006 at 8:28pm

http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=159011&KW=TIPPY98ACT - http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=159 011&KW=TIPPY98ACT

Stop dwelling on this. 2 inches does NOT matter.



Posted By: TIPPY98ACT
Date Posted: 03 September 2006 at 11:22pm
Hey Revo XT, I'm sorry I annoy you, but little punks like you should go lay down with the rest of puppies. This post was for anyone with REAL KNOWLEDGE OF PAINT BALLL!!! Not with one month experience!!! Check your join date DUDE!!! If you mean revo like I think you do than I will show you why a T-MAXX is a real truck trust me, I have 10 years of big dog eperience with that hobby. Again GO LAY DOWN DUDE!!!


Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 03 September 2006 at 11:25pm
unless you went fron a 1" to a 24" i doubt you would ever notice a large air efficiency loss

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Posted By: TIPPY98ACT
Date Posted: 03 September 2006 at 11:37pm
Hey carl the sniper, what barrel do you have? thank you for posting your opinion. Instead of a little kid responce. but I have read (from this forum) that you will have to turn your velocity up to get the same shot out of a 16inch tht you would get out of a 14 or a 12 inch.


Posted By: TIPPY98ACT
Date Posted: 03 September 2006 at 11:56pm
Prove to me that a longer barrel is better. I want to know WHY!!!


Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 03 September 2006 at 11:59pm

There's two groups here.

1. The group that plays airball and likes the extra length of the barrel because they can tuck into the bunkers better.

2. People that think the extra two inches really does anything.



Posted By: Squishey
Date Posted: 04 September 2006 at 12:05am
a longer barrel isnt better. i have 12, 16 and 20 inch barrels for my gun and the 20incher sucks the big one. i find that i actually loose distance with this barrel(SP linear) the 16 is only good with good quality paint but when it gets paint it likes then watch out.(Evile Pipe kit) and the 12incher is a barrel i got from rap.com for 34$ and it shoots anything i put through it. i say get a cheap 12inch barrel like a lapco bigshot or J&J ceramic other people swear by them here.i have never used either of them.

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Canadians do it on top.


Posted By: TIPPY98ACT
Date Posted: 04 September 2006 at 12:05am
THANK YOU IT IS ALL ABOUT THE LOOKS!!! What the double H E hockey stix is air ball? I heard it alot lately.


Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 04 September 2006 at 12:14am


Posted By: tippmannfreak
Date Posted: 04 September 2006 at 12:15am
oh for some reason my computer can't accept annoying people typin in caps lock... and i think u can get away wit sayin hell. if not i just got a strike...

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Tippmann 98 Custom
Psycho Ballistics X-Chamber
P.B. Drop Forward
Polished internals
Lapco Bigshot 12"
Macro Line
Rufus Dog Double Trigger
Dye Stickies
Polished Receiver Halves


Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 04 September 2006 at 1:02am

Originally posted by Squishey Squishey wrote:

a longer barrel isnt better. i have 12, 16 and 20 inch barrels for my gun and the 20incher sucks the big one. i find that i actually loose distance with this barrel(SP linear) the 16 is only good with good quality paint but when it gets paint it likes then watch out.(Evile Pipe kit) and the 12incher is a barrel i got from rap.com for 34$ and it shoots anything i put through it. i say get a cheap 12inch barrel like a lapco bigshot or J&J ceramic other people swear by them here.i have never used either of them.
yeah but these are completly different barrels of different lengths. to actually tell us that you would have to have a 12, 16, and 20" all the same type of barrel

like i gurantee if you had an 18" freak it would be way more accurate than a 12" ceramic..



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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 04 September 2006 at 1:05am

Originally posted by TIPPY98ACT TIPPY98ACT wrote:

Hey carl the sniper, what barrel do you have? thank you for posting your opinion. Instead of a little kid responce. but I have read (from this forum) that you will have to turn your velocity up to get the same shot out of a 16inch tht you would get out of a 14 or a 12 inch.
i have an apex barrel (10.5" i think)the apex's only come in 1 size or i would have gona for a longer (for millsim purposes)

the velocity thing might be true but only by a few fps... not really noticible



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Posted By: RevoXT
Date Posted: 04 September 2006 at 2:00am
Tippyact98, are you stupid? My join date is one month that dosen't mean I've been in paintball for month wow. Anyone who dosen't know that there is no difference from a 12 to 14 inch should lay down and cower. I've been in Paintball for two years which seems to be quite longer than you judgeing what you know among paintball products. I just recently switched to Tippmann and have already done many mods to my gun, much more than you. I have been a Spyder fan and Autococker fan before I came here. Before you judge, you should get the real facts newbie. By the way, I do own the Revo and the Savage Nitro Monster Trucks... And I promise you with the mods I have done with them they will destroy yours, something tells me you haven't strapped a 6 hp engine to your little T-maxx eh? You're acting rather foolish by assumeing things that you don't know. Either way, you're knowledge on THIS forum on PAINTBALL is very low and I can promise you that if you want to do a test on who knows more, I'll win. P.S. For someone who joined in august for you to only have 8-10 posts is really really sad.. you are contribute to this forum don't you? Hah.
Keep asking the same questions over and people are bound to get annoyed moron.


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Tippmann A-5
-Shocktech Drop
-Super R\T
-QEV
-JCS Powertube
-BT Sight
-Flatline + Metadyne Shroud
-R.I.S. Foregrip
-Stock
-C02 20OZ Anti-Siphon
-X-Core EXP Chamber
-Macro-Line
Tippmann C-3


Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 04 September 2006 at 2:05am
Originally posted by RevoXT RevoXT wrote:

Tippyact98, are you stupid? My join date is one month that dosen't mean I've been in paintball for month wow. Anyone who dosen't know that there is no difference from a 12 to 14 inch should lay down and cower. I've been in Paintball for two years which seems to be quite longer than you judgeing what you know among paintball products. I just recently switched to Tippmann and have already done many mods to my gun, much more than you. I have been a Spyder fan and Autococker fan before I came here. Before you judge, you should get the real facts newbie. By the way, I do own the Revo and the Savage Nitro Monster Trucks... And I promise you with the mods I have done with them they will destroy yours, something tells me you haven't strapped a 6 hp engine to your little T-maxx eh? You're acting rather foolish by assumeing things that you don't know. Either way, you're knowledge on THIS forum on PAINTBALL is very low and I can promise you that if you want to do a test on who knows more, I'll win. P.S. For someone who joined in august for you to only have 8-10 posts is really really sad.. you are contribute to this forum don't you? Hah.
carefull boy remember to breathe

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Posted By: RevoXT
Date Posted: 04 September 2006 at 2:14am
Sorry, I can't stand people that don't think before they speak, He was stupid enough to say "You joined in bla bla bla I joined before you!" ... yet the fool only has  8 posts and hes been here MUCH longer than me... yet I have many most posts and actually SOLVE other peoples problems... :-\ foolish if you ask me

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Tippmann A-5
-Shocktech Drop
-Super R\T
-QEV
-JCS Powertube
-BT Sight
-Flatline + Metadyne Shroud
-R.I.S. Foregrip
-Stock
-C02 20OZ Anti-Siphon
-X-Core EXP Chamber
-Macro-Line
Tippmann C-3


Posted By: Shadowminion
Date Posted: 04 September 2006 at 10:40am

 

:-\ foolish if you ask me .....

Post count and or Join date have nothing to do with a poster's experience , intelligence or contributions for the general good of the forum .

You above most others revoXT should be aware of that .

The 12-14 " rule of thumb is just that , you dont gain any performance by having a longer barrel .

Most barrel systems have inserts around 3-4 " in length , that would be my minimum length for performance (excluding effects of barrel porting , and the Flatline )

I've had the JT stainless two piece barrels in 10 and 14 " , theres no noticible performance differences , in fact I played a few games of speedball without ANY front on and it shot just the same , so ,,,,

As you see from the Poll above , its about even between the two lengths . those two lengths are about the best all around versatile and useful out there .



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SL68-II , micro honed and polished .688" bore . Tuff Enuf .
Widowmaker , under construction


Posted By: TIPPY98ACT
Date Posted: 04 September 2006 at 11:40am
I have to apologize to revoxt. I didn't know that 2 years is the minimum you need to bash on a newb who wants to LEARN from others with knowledege. you would think that people would want to help a new guy learn. Even if it involves some stupid questions. yes I have asked this question before and it was ansewered. By revoxt with his vast knowledge of paintball. I then bought a 12inch. As I stated before I'm a newb. I never suggested I new more than anyone on this paintball forum. I do know that when someone asks a question that you should not act as if you don't have time to help a new guy out. Thats a good way to promote the sport of paintball. Don't you think? And as my contribution on this forum, I will start with this poll. Who knows maybe a newb will read it and it will help him/her with there next purchase? I hope in 2 years that I have not forgotten what it was like to not know a thing about paintball. And make time for the stupid questions so that a newb can enjoy the sport as much as I do.   


Posted By: RicWhic414
Date Posted: 04 September 2006 at 12:38pm
K guys i think ill put my 2 cents in i have a 8inch big shot and a 14 inch progressive i love both barrels but i use the 14 more now and i dont no why i just like it more... for my mag i have a 8inch taso and a 14inch teardrop and with the teardrop i can hit a fly off a poll from 80-100 feet

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Tuesday starts the weekend... YAYAYA!!!!
CHUFF CHUFF


Posted By: RevoXT
Date Posted: 04 September 2006 at 2:05pm
Shadow, I did say that you can't judge from post and join date you misread what I said, he was judgeing from that. And Tippy, I wouldn't have "Bashed" you if you didn't post the same bloody questions over and over! You judged wrong, you got put it in your place, end of story. I told you on the previous topic that you started that there was no difference, so don't be telling me that I don't help people punk. You were basically acting stupid and bringing join-date into it which made you look down-right stupid in the long run if you're smart enough to know what I'm talking about, I doubt you are. In closing, I'm simply going to say i would not have "Bashed" you if you did not ask the same questions over and over, and if you had a higher contribution to this forum that woulda made it a bit different too. (I'm pretty sure there is also a STICKY here saying the difference between 12-14-16 inch barrels..)

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Tippmann A-5
-Shocktech Drop
-Super R\T
-QEV
-JCS Powertube
-BT Sight
-Flatline + Metadyne Shroud
-R.I.S. Foregrip
-Stock
-C02 20OZ Anti-Siphon
-X-Core EXP Chamber
-Macro-Line
Tippmann C-3


Posted By: TIPPY98ACT
Date Posted: 04 September 2006 at 5:53pm
Hey revoxt, what type of contribution to this site do I have to make to get the respect of experienced people. I thought it was a Tippmann owners site, NOT YOURS!! and I OWN a Tippmann. Therefore I think I have the right to post what I want. It's up to the members if you want to reply! When I brought up the join date thing I knew it would make you mad. kinda like I felt every time you put your 2 cents in on one of my posts. Sucks doesn't it.lol Anyway I know you have more experience in this sport always did. My R/T tigger will be here this week. I hope if I have any questions I can post them with out insult because I have not done it before and you have. Dude you take this stuff way to personnel.    


Posted By: RevoXT
Date Posted: 04 September 2006 at 6:07pm
Dang, you really are stupid... the type of contribution you should put into the site is helping others, it's give and receive noob. The join date didn't make me mad, it just showed me how stupid you can actually be. I will HELP you with your R\T trigger since you haven't made multiple posts about it. By the way, I really don't take it personal I was actually laughing at your replies.

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Tippmann A-5
-Shocktech Drop
-Super R\T
-QEV
-JCS Powertube
-BT Sight
-Flatline + Metadyne Shroud
-R.I.S. Foregrip
-Stock
-C02 20OZ Anti-Siphon
-X-Core EXP Chamber
-Macro-Line
Tippmann C-3


Posted By: TIPPY98ACT
Date Posted: 04 September 2006 at 6:27pm
Hey punk, first off two stupid traxxas owners should not be against each other. On the little maxx topic its not a little maxx eh. its 4 maxx's, 1 revo, 1 xxx-nt, and a e-maxx all with the RIGHT mods. Not motors, because we both know that a 2.5 and a 3.3 are as good as it gets. Any way my point is THANKS FOR THE HELP stupid. Now what the hell will a expansion chamber do? Yah I know stupid question fro m a stupid person but will it help? so far I have wasted my money on a Tapco car stock, core deadbox sight, werks 12 inch barrel, and the r/t.


Posted By: RevoXT
Date Posted: 04 September 2006 at 11:02pm
Dude, if you want to argue about R\C Nitro Trucks or even just talk about them, there's the Traxxas forums. And 3.3 is nto as good as it gets you can strap higher hp Phantom Engines onto your vehicle via special order.... On the expansion chamber... I wouldn't get one, just anti-siphon your tank, I've heard of PLENTY of problems with people with EXP chamber and because they have one, their R\T dosen't work. Anti-Siphon STILL allows little bits and pieces of pressurized liquids under rapid fire so it still works fine w\ the R\T. Same with Nitro.. Nitro and R\T dosen't go well together... here is a quick summary of what a EXP Chamber is.. Basically they come in stages, each stage has a fine filter that breaks up the liquid into gas, they go up to stages of 8 (X-Core), They make your shots more consistant basically however some people believe they do nothing. Anti-Siphon is basically a copper tube that is posioned upward in your tank so that it mostly sucks up the gas that has expanded inside your tank. If you are going R\T I would strongly recommend just anti-siphoning your tank... any Tippmann gun can easily stand LOTS or LITTLE bits of c02 liquid. I just used Anti-Siphon to make my shots more consistant INSTEAD of getting an X-Chamber and because I know now that it works better w\ Anti-Siphon than a X-Chamber.

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Tippmann A-5
-Shocktech Drop
-Super R\T
-QEV
-JCS Powertube
-BT Sight
-Flatline + Metadyne Shroud
-R.I.S. Foregrip
-Stock
-C02 20OZ Anti-Siphon
-X-Core EXP Chamber
-Macro-Line
Tippmann C-3


Posted By: Squishey
Date Posted: 05 September 2006 at 2:49am
i smell strikes

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Canadians do it on top.


Posted By: RevoXT
Date Posted: 05 September 2006 at 3:47am
Meh, more or less.

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Tippmann A-5
-Shocktech Drop
-Super R\T
-QEV
-JCS Powertube
-BT Sight
-Flatline + Metadyne Shroud
-R.I.S. Foregrip
-Stock
-C02 20OZ Anti-Siphon
-X-Core EXP Chamber
-Macro-Line
Tippmann C-3


Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 05 September 2006 at 4:00pm


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Posted By: TIPPY98ACT
Date Posted: 06 September 2006 at 12:59am
Hey revo thanks for the tip on the bottle. I need a 20 oz. I have a 15oz. and a 9oz. I just checked on a anti-siphon. That will be next. I have a lot more questions. were should I post them? This post has gotten way, way off topic. sorry if that annoys you. LOL!!! hey carl the sniper yah thats funny.


Posted By: RevoXT
Date Posted: 06 September 2006 at 1:16am
If they are addons or anything to your gun they go on the Upgrades Forum.. maintence etc goes in the maintence section, 20OZ Is almost REQUIRED for  Tippmann gun since they hog so much air compared to Spyders and other guns

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Tippmann A-5
-Shocktech Drop
-Super R\T
-QEV
-JCS Powertube
-BT Sight
-Flatline + Metadyne Shroud
-R.I.S. Foregrip
-Stock
-C02 20OZ Anti-Siphon
-X-Core EXP Chamber
-Macro-Line
Tippmann C-3


Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 06 September 2006 at 4:06pm

/\

not really

i have a us-5 (which insides are quite alike the insides of the a5)

my 9oz lasts me 2 hours between refills (maybe 400-450 shots)



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Posted By: RevoXT
Date Posted: 06 September 2006 at 8:17pm
Dude.. my A-5 20oz only get 500-600 shots... lol

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Tippmann A-5
-Shocktech Drop
-Super R\T
-QEV
-JCS Powertube
-BT Sight
-Flatline + Metadyne Shroud
-R.I.S. Foregrip
-Stock
-C02 20OZ Anti-Siphon
-X-Core EXP Chamber
-Macro-Line
Tippmann C-3


Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 06 September 2006 at 10:20pm
did you poke a hole in the asa?

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Posted By: Squishey
Date Posted: 06 September 2006 at 11:16pm
Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

 yeah but these are completly different barrels of different lengths. to actually tell us that you would have to have a 12, 16, and 20" all the same type of barrel

like i gurantee if you had an 18" freak it would be way more accurate than a 12" ceramic..


i knew there was a reason we kept you around....to make me look like an idiot


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Canadians do it on top.


Posted By: RevoXT
Date Posted: 07 September 2006 at 1:42am
I can promise you that a 14" Dye Ultralite is as accurate or more so as a 18" freak kit.. :-)

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Tippmann A-5
-Shocktech Drop
-Super R\T
-QEV
-JCS Powertube
-BT Sight
-Flatline + Metadyne Shroud
-R.I.S. Foregrip
-Stock
-C02 20OZ Anti-Siphon
-X-Core EXP Chamber
-Macro-Line
Tippmann C-3


Posted By: RicWhic414
Date Posted: 07 September 2006 at 9:00am
well first of all i believe they dont make a 18" freak but dont quote me on it but anyways a freak is goin to be much for accurate because you will always have the best paint match... unless you want to spend like 30 bucks for 6 different backs.. but again the longer the barrel up to a certain length will be more accurate... just think about it... i think its like 18 or 20 inches where it doesnt matter anymore but not sure on that

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Tuesday starts the weekend... YAYAYA!!!!
CHUFF CHUFF


Posted By: RevoXT
Date Posted: 07 September 2006 at 3:33pm
Not true Ric, the barrel needs atleast 8inch for the ball to pickup speed, Anything else isn't really needed to be honost, A 12-14INCH Freak will be just as accurate as a 18 inch, MOST paintball players agree that anything ABOVE 16-inch or even 14-inch is completely pointless and is just for "looks"


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Tippmann A-5
-Shocktech Drop
-Super R\T
-QEV
-JCS Powertube
-BT Sight
-Flatline + Metadyne Shroud
-R.I.S. Foregrip
-Stock
-C02 20OZ Anti-Siphon
-X-Core EXP Chamber
-Macro-Line
Tippmann C-3



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