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Ion v Autococker

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Forum Name: Which Gun is Best
Forum Description: Need Advice? Ask the pros.
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Topic: Ion v Autococker
Posted By: SuperXero
Subject: Ion v Autococker
Date Posted: 18 September 2006 at 8:53pm
For basically the same price, which is a better buy? The Smart Parts Ion, or the WGP Autococker Trilogy Tactical

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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 18 September 2006 at 9:54pm
ion, but i'd prefer neither...  but hey, that's just me.

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Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 18 September 2006 at 10:02pm
Ion

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Posted By: SuperXero
Date Posted: 19 September 2006 at 7:16am
Originally posted by Styro Folme Styro Folme wrote:



ion, but i'd prefer neither...  but hey, that's just me.


And for the money, which would you prefer (I already have an A5 with flatline)?

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Posted By: MeanMan
Date Posted: 19 September 2006 at 3:26pm

well, trilogys arent that good of a gun

and there are reasons why the ion is so popular and the trilly isnt

out of those 2, ion

but do you play speedball or woods?



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Posted By: SuperXero
Date Posted: 19 September 2006 at 6:45pm
Well, most often I play in an outdoor field, but because of the size of the courses, I wouldn't call it woodsball.

I like my A-5, don't get me wrong, it suits my purposes. But it's getting old, falling apart, and I'm looking to buy something new, and after hearing 'Ion' repeated so many times, decided to check it out.

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Posted By: MeanMan
Date Posted: 19 September 2006 at 7:18pm

There pretty good guns,

are you willing to buy used?  And price range?

Or are you set on those 2?



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Posted By: MilSimBaller
Date Posted: 19 September 2006 at 8:51pm

If your leaning towards the ion, you should check out an Indian Creek Designs (ICD) Promaster for $250



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Posted By: SuperXero
Date Posted: 19 September 2006 at 10:54pm
Originally posted by MeanMan MeanMan wrote:

There pretty good guns,


are you willing to buy used?  And price range?


Or are you set on those 2?



I'm really just considering buying because I saw Ion was a good price, for an apparently good gun, and then noticed autococker was similarly priced, and remembered my dreams of owning an autococker (as a kid).

I'd rather buy new, as I already have upgrades, etc picked out, and there's a store nearby for a website that I've been picking all the stuff out from.

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Posted By: MeanMan
Date Posted: 20 September 2006 at 3:18pm

Well, yah both guns are gonna be pretty good.  If you have a little bit more, id get the Indian Creek Designs Promaster

they just recently came down in price and are really good guns

The main thing your looking at is

Do you want speed- Ion wins-----cocker shortstroke

or a mechanical gun with better accurasy(sp?)?



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Posted By: SuperXero
Date Posted: 20 September 2006 at 7:47pm
I may be willing to buy the ICD Promaster, as I was setting my limit at 500 bucks canadian (ion, new trigger, co2 with siphon, and clamp feed neck was to be bought for roughly that price). What are advantages Promaster has over Ion, and would there be anything dire to be replaced/upgraded?

Also, can it run on CO2?

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Posted By: ekeboo
Date Posted: 20 September 2006 at 11:47pm
Get a prostock and eventually eblade it. eventually.

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Posted By: MeanMan
Date Posted: 21 September 2006 at 3:48pm

Well, you never hear of people running promasters on co2

i know rarely you see imps on co2, but its being done with antisiphon more than you think

i guess id go with the ion if you have any doubt of the pm and co2

and your question- all you need is a asa and hose, and thats it.  Promasters are amazing guns stock



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hybrid-sniper~"To be honest, if I see a player still using an Impulse I'm going to question their motives."


Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 21 September 2006 at 4:57pm
Trilogy...not much of an Autococker IMO.

I would highly suggest getting HPA and to see that you have only have about $250 american, I would say get the Ion, but wait until after the World Chapionships, the newer Ion will be released along with the Proto Rail (Dye's Ion competitor) and the 06 Ion prices will drop drastically.

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Posted By: Just Shoot Me
Date Posted: 21 September 2006 at 6:05pm
Get the '04 WGP Prostock. It's only $170 USD over Action Village, and is easily better than a Trilogy. Plus, it handles CO2 nicely.

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Posted By: SuperXero
Date Posted: 21 September 2006 at 11:14pm
Originally posted by jerseypaint jerseypaint wrote:

Trilogy...not much of an Autococker IMO.

I would highly suggest getting HPA and to see that you have only have about $250 american, I would say get the Ion, but wait until after the World Chapionships, the newer Ion will be released along with the Proto Rail (Dye's Ion competitor) and the 06 Ion prices will drop drastically.


Woah buddy, are you trying to tell me that cdn dollar is worth half of american? last i checked it was at .90 as the american economy was failing.

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Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 21 September 2006 at 11:27pm
Originally posted by SuperXero SuperXero wrote:

Originally posted by jerseypaint jerseypaint wrote:

Trilogy...not much of an Autococker IMO.

I would highly suggest getting HPA and to see that you have only have about $250 american, I would say get the Ion, but wait until after the World Chapionships, the newer Ion will be released along with the Proto Rail (Dye's Ion competitor) and the 06 Ion prices will drop drastically.


Woah buddy, are you trying to tell me that cdn dollar is worth half of american? last i checked it was at .90 as the american economy was failing.

Sorry...my bad. I'm was being ignorant. U'm well than that's $446 US, but still wait. The Proto Rail is believed to be realesed during November during the Championships. The Proto Rail is made by Dye and supposedly blows the Ion out of the water.

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Posted By: SuperXero
Date Posted: 21 September 2006 at 11:53pm
Well, I think it all comes down to my home field. If they fill HPA, i'll get an air tank, and a PM, if they only fill co2, then i'm getting anti-siphon with co2 tank, and ion.

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Posted By: MeanMan
Date Posted: 22 September 2006 at 3:30pm

^^Great choice

 

and what?  Protos making something to compete with the ion??? Im confused...



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Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 22 September 2006 at 3:42pm
Originally posted by MeanMan MeanMan wrote:

^^Great choice



and what? Protos making something to compete with the ion??? Im confused...


Dye is. Dye owns Proto. They will supposedly be releasing the DM7, PM7, and the Proto Rail after the Championships. Th Proto Rail will be priced between $200-300 US.

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Posted By: sniper666
Date Posted: 22 September 2006 at 7:07pm
You need to decide what type of gun your after,because cockers and ion are not similar in any way.But you can get a used ion for about 150.00 throw a virtue board in it for just under 300.00.And it will smoke most guns in that price range


Posted By: RicWhic414
Date Posted: 23 September 2006 at 12:29pm
does anyone no for sure when the marker is comin out by dye

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Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 23 September 2006 at 3:02pm
Originally posted by RicWhic414 RicWhic414 wrote:

does anyone no for sure when the marker is comin out by dye

Dye said during the Cup. Thats Novemeber 17th I believe. This is when they HOPE to get it out by. Unforseen factors can stop them from releasing it on their expected date though.

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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 23 September 2006 at 7:19pm
Are there pics of this "Rail" yet? I'm too lazy to search...

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Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 24 September 2006 at 12:43pm
No. But the stroy has been on PBN for a while.

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