PCS_US5
Printed From: Tippmann Paintball
Category: Paintball Equipment
Forum Name: Which Gun is Best
Forum Description: Need Advice? Ask the pros.
URL: http://www.tippmannsports.com/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=160047
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Topic: PCS_US5
Posted By: Tippmann875
Subject: PCS_US5
Date Posted: 26 September 2006 at 12:20pm
| Are the new pcs us5 electronic guns any good? |
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 26 September 2006 at 5:30pm
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hells yeah amazing... but the majority of people on this forum will tell otherwise. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: MilSimBaller
Date Posted: 26 September 2006 at 6:41pm
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^says the only guy on here who will tell you the us5 is better then an a-5^ yea from what i've heard there not bad, but if you plan on customizing and upgrading, get an a-5, otherwise, go for it. |
Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 26 September 2006 at 7:01pm
OGM US-5 > ALL |
carl_the_sniper wrote:Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 26 September 2006 at 9:52pm
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>you nope ive said many times us-5 is not best gun.... but really good for price. and i just prefer the us5 over a5 ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 27 September 2006 at 12:25am
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for what they are, they arn't bad. basically an a-5, with a different grip and no cyclone system. however, i don't like a-5's because you can't centerfeed them easily... but that's just because i'm a speedball guy. i'd rather have a cyclone for the woods. ------------- X |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 27 September 2006 at 12:57am
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meh=cyclone ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 01 October 2006 at 6:14pm
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The US5 is okay...... Ive herd of some serious reliability issues. They're not as good as carl says. It shoots paint, it works. Its just not nearly as indestructable, reliable and customizeable as the REAL A5. ------------- 
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 01 October 2006 at 10:01pm
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/\ but youve never used one most reliablilty issues are created out of nowhere by people who just hate them. the us-5 is 95% as customisable as the a5. and is even more customisible if you count the hopper. its as reliable as the a5 im not gona say more but i will say = in my opinion they are better than a5s partly cause i hate cyclones, love egrips and they are cheaper. the us5 is $280 cdn the a5 is 315cdn a a5 egrip is $150 a cyclone is $100 you save approximatly $70 cdn with the us-5, enough for a decent barrel. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: Mr. Blonde
Date Posted: 02 October 2006 at 5:02am
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Ok, A-5 E-Grip Package which comes with the cyclone is $309 U.S. the US-5 is $180.....It all depends really, personally I would rather have the A-5 then a knock-off model. With the A-5 you do get the Cyclone, which is an amazing hopper and will NEVER fail you if you install Vortex Axels\Ratchets. If you're on a budget, sure, go with the US-5 as carl said, if not, go with the A-5 (I am inlove with it)
------------- -Tippmann A-5 -Flatline + Metadyne Shroud -R.I.S. Foregrip -X-Core -JCS Aluminum Powertube -JCS Hexagon Bolt -Q.E.V. -Vortex -E-Grip -Shocktech Drop\On\Off ASA -Macro-Line -Anti-Siphon C02 |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 02 October 2006 at 4:26pm
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um no.. at least for me the us-5 was a choice i could have either had the a5 or the us-5. had nothing to do with money. explain how it's a knock off. and i just dont like the cyclone. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 02 October 2006 at 6:25pm
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I have reservations about the cyclone myself. IMO air efficiency is NOT Tippmann's strong-point. Now you're asking the gun to divy air to the hopper. I'm justifying numbers to myself like this. By the time I get done modding an a-5 to get it where I want I could have 2 ION's. Does the a5 rock? yup............ |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 02 October 2006 at 10:20pm
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/\ yeah exactly why the a5 sucks for speedball. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: paintballinbill
Date Posted: 03 October 2006 at 10:25pm
okay, so if the cyclone isn't equipped on an a-5 or 98, where's the blowback gas going to go? it dissipates throughout the gun, just like any open bolt blow-back gun. i saw no loss in velocity from before i added the cyclone to after. the cyclone or r/t just uses gas that is already there. the only way you could argue that the r/t causes inefficiency is in the case of CO2, because, under a high ROF, liquid CO2 is shot through the gun instead of gas. oh, and the US-5 doesn't come with a loader at all ------------- 98 Custom milled;painted;J&J Ceramic;X-Chamber;R/T;Cyclone. |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 03 October 2006 at 11:04pm
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i wasent talking about gas usage i was talking generally. us-5 comes with a gravity hopper.but it does come with egrip see even if you were to buy a cyclone for it you would still be $70 ahead of an a5 with an egrip upgrade ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 04 October 2006 at 9:37pm
| doesn't the cyclone get air directly from the valve? |
Posted By: Mr. Blonde
Date Posted: 04 October 2006 at 10:16pm
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^ No.... after the valve has been opened and the gun fires, it loads a ball again that's why at the very start if you don't manually PUMP your Cyclone, for the first two or three shots, it won't fire a ball. And are you serious about "How is the US-5 a Knockoff? Ok...US-5 came out AFTER the A-5, as we all know, the A-5 has the look of a MP5 right? US-5 has the exact same look yet came out after... if you don't call that a knock-off...well then ok, you're just too proud of an owner to admit it. Now, given, the A-5 is a knock-off of the MP5.. however the MP5 isn't a paintball gun, the A-5 and US-5 is....see where I'm going with this? If the A-5 was at the time, the first pb gun with the mp5 body look... and then the us-5 has the exact same body look.. yes, that would make the second-coming (US-5) a knockoff. Also, US-5 does not come with an E-Grip it's classified as PMI's "E-Force" (I think that's what they call it) E-Grip, E-Force, E-Frame... so many different names from different makers. Personally, the Cyclone is a god-send to me, reliable, fast, and sturdy (I have done Vortex and QEV note that) Yes, the Cyclone and R\T use "Blowback air" however I noticed that after I made my R\T a Super R\T, I had to increase the Drive-Springs strength to get it to work (sweet-soot), that means more air-usage if you make the Drive-Spring harder more air is being used to cycle the gun..... ok you guys debate this, I'm typing way to much tonight and already have HW just atleast analyze what I just said. ------------- -Tippmann A-5 -Flatline + Metadyne Shroud -R.I.S. Foregrip -X-Core -JCS Aluminum Powertube -JCS Hexagon Bolt -Q.E.V. -Vortex -E-Grip -Shocktech Drop\On\Off ASA -Macro-Line -Anti-Siphon C02 |
Posted By: KillerBD
Date Posted: 04 October 2006 at 11:16pm
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The Tippmann A-5 is the best, END OF ARGUMENT. ------------- Tippmann A-5: >Tapco CAR stock. >W.A.S. board, E-grip. >Spyder Remote Line. >Smart Parts 20" barrel. >Other custom mods. |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 05 October 2006 at 1:01am
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firts thing though technically and legally not it is kinda a copy. but knockoff implies that it's worse than the origional. in my opinion it's better maybe if you shout it you would aggree, maybe not. second how many mp5 guns have you seen? theres at least 10 you can buy plus you can millsim your own. they call it the aec advanced electronic clip. it's a good idea cause if you run out of batteries in game, you can pop 2 pins out, and put in the non-electronic clip that comes with it. besides the upgradeablilty, the aec is so much better. i just dont like the cyclone no need to argue that, just dont. it's an ugly beast, though i respect the idea. and i am asking that anybody who has never shot it shuts up about quality/performance.
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Posted By: Mr. Blonde
Date Posted: 05 October 2006 at 1:59am
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Uh.. I've seen very few MP5 Body guns for Paintball...All I've really seen is the A-5 and US-5... and a "Knock-Off" is basically one idea stolen from another, and reproduced with cheaper materials...I'd still say that the US-5 does not have as "high-grade" of parts as the A-5, I could be wrong though I have not done a complete comparison. And I don't care about "MAKING YOUR OWN MP5" I'm talking about Paintball Manufactors, making Paintball guns with the Mp5 Style Body, Tippmann (correct me if I'm wrong) was the first to do it, NOT PMI, Pmi was busy with the Piranhas from day one (I do like Piranha's though) Anyway, each to their own, if you like the US-5 fine, If you like the A-5, fine. This will always be a major argument because orignal A-5 owners respect the design, and the PMI comes along and steals almost the complete design (body wise) actually I wouldn't say steal... nor would I say improve... uh.. I guess......man I don't know how to put it actually.
------------- -Tippmann A-5 -Flatline + Metadyne Shroud -R.I.S. Foregrip -X-Core -JCS Aluminum Powertube -JCS Hexagon Bolt -Q.E.V. -Vortex -E-Grip -Shocktech Drop\On\Off ASA -Macro-Line -Anti-Siphon C02 |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 05 October 2006 at 7:23pm
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actually dont think tippmann was the first... just the first to mass produce it. have you ever held one? the us-5 and a5 are made of the exact same things but the grip on the us-5 is stronger and theres no cyclone to go wrong. hah yeah i know how that means and saying they stole the complete design bodywise is wrong... mp5 stuff aside... for 2 guns based on the mp-5 they look completly different. (look at the handle, hopper, barrel, vertical adaptor, trigger, foregrip, screws, safety, paint and how the us-5 is generally smoother.)more also
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Posted By: Mr. Blonde
Date Posted: 07 October 2006 at 4:36am
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Buddy.. the US-5 is POLISHED, the A-5 is NOT... if you look at a Stock flatline shroud, that is black polished, that's basically the US-5's coat right there. Polished will always look "smoother" Cyclone's really don't go "wrong" the worst that happens is a ratchet breaks.. easy to replace and very cheap. Tippmann released the A-5 before PMI came out with their US-5 Once again, all that so called "smoother" is "polished" the A-5 is flat-tac...it's not going to look that smooth. ------------- -Tippmann A-5 -Flatline + Metadyne Shroud -R.I.S. Foregrip -X-Core -JCS Aluminum Powertube -JCS Hexagon Bolt -Q.E.V. -Vortex -E-Grip -Shocktech Drop\On\Off ASA -Macro-Line -Anti-Siphon C02 |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 07 October 2006 at 4:39am
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i thought we decided we were done with this. i didn't mean the polish (which i did also mention) is smoother. i just meant the general body shape of the us-5 is a little smother. not calling it a bad or good thing just saying it's a difference.
but you can see that they dont look at all alike right? (for mp5's) ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: Mr. Blonde
Date Posted: 07 October 2006 at 4:57am
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The design is the same... it's just "finished" differently. If you know what I mean basically they took out the Cyclone part and implemented the 98cs vert feed, they seem to have the same ASA...and a tombstone adapter.. foregrip looks the same and is in the same place same with the "peep" sight and front sight, the tag name is even in the same place as on the A-5...comparing side to side, they are pretty identicle, coat is different, they included a different safety stuff like that, but no doubt they are EXTREMLY identicle. Personally if I looked at both of them and didn't know anything about them, I would actually think the US-5 was a better gun because it's polish finish and full metal grip. However I am still an A-5 lover, but I'm not gonna say you're US-5 is horrible.. I'll just say I'd PERSONALLY rather have my A-5.
------------- -Tippmann A-5 -Flatline + Metadyne Shroud -R.I.S. Foregrip -X-Core -JCS Aluminum Powertube -JCS Hexagon Bolt -Q.E.V. -Vortex -E-Grip -Shocktech Drop\On\Off ASA -Macro-Line -Anti-Siphon C02 |
Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 07 October 2006 at 11:53am
1. You dont know if I have tried them. I could be the person who designed them for all you know. (I'm not...) 2. The US5 is not a total piece of garbage, but nothing compared to the original. It breaks down. Do you think everyone on http://www.pbreview.com - www.pbreview.com is lieng because the US5 really is the best marker ever created and they dont want it to take over the Tippmann A5? No. 3. If you dont like cyclones, either get a 98 custom, or modify your A5. Its not rocket science... 4. A5 E-Grip: $69.99 at someones proshop (Somebody on here just bought one)
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 07 October 2006 at 2:46pm
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2. on pbreview there was one moron who gave it a 1. there was only 1 respectable negative review. 4. i live in canada ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: Mr. Blonde
Date Posted: 07 October 2006 at 3:32pm
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I just bought one and I live in America, it was $100. Now, given that, I'd still take my A-5 over the US-5 anyday, however I WOULD use the US-5 as a backup gun..end of story, let the US-5 on this forum DIE so these arguments stop. ------------- -Tippmann A-5 -Flatline + Metadyne Shroud -R.I.S. Foregrip -X-Core -JCS Aluminum Powertube -JCS Hexagon Bolt -Q.E.V. -Vortex -E-Grip -Shocktech Drop\On\Off ASA -Macro-Line -Anti-Siphon C02 |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 07 October 2006 at 7:49pm
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yeah but kinda weird to use us-5 as backup if you allready have a5 thanks for being mature and no longer saying "the apex sucks" ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: Mr. Blonde
Date Posted: 08 October 2006 at 1:26am
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I know, I was just giving an example that I would rather my have my A-5 + Flatline + QEV + X-Core + Vortex Mod +... ok just look at my "Sig" I would rather have all that stuff, on my main gun, which is my A-5.
------------- -Tippmann A-5 -Flatline + Metadyne Shroud -R.I.S. Foregrip -X-Core -JCS Aluminum Powertube -JCS Hexagon Bolt -Q.E.V. -Vortex -E-Grip -Shocktech Drop\On\Off ASA -Macro-Line -Anti-Siphon C02 |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 08 October 2006 at 1:30am
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yeah cool ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 08 October 2006 at 9:54am
Yes I know you live in Canada, but $100 USD is around $100 CDN, there is not a huge difference. And Im not ignorant, people give things biased reviews sometimes. But the US5 has some flaws, deal with it. -------------
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Posted By: Mr. Blonde
Date Posted: 08 October 2006 at 2:37pm
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Every gun has flaws, and $100 USD is actually about $110 CDN. MOVING ON.
------------- -Tippmann A-5 -Flatline + Metadyne Shroud -R.I.S. Foregrip -X-Core -JCS Aluminum Powertube -JCS Hexagon Bolt -Q.E.V. -Vortex -E-Grip -Shocktech Drop\On\Off ASA -Macro-Line -Anti-Siphon C02 |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 08 October 2006 at 2:56pm
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I like kitty cats. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell" 
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Posted By: Mr. Blonde
Date Posted: 08 October 2006 at 3:30pm
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DeTrenvi, do people really ever ask you Spyder questions? Just wondering.
------------- -Tippmann A-5 -Flatline + Metadyne Shroud -R.I.S. Foregrip -X-Core -JCS Aluminum Powertube -JCS Hexagon Bolt -Q.E.V. -Vortex -E-Grip -Shocktech Drop\On\Off ASA -Macro-Line -Anti-Siphon C02 |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 08 October 2006 at 3:36pm
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I've had a few questions. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 08 October 2006 at 4:03pm
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every gun has problems now can we let this thread die? ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 08 October 2006 at 6:36pm
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This thread wouldnt have evolved into an arguement if you didnt preech on how awesome you think your US5 is. Im not expecting you to say it is horrible or anything, just give your honest opinion on it (Which you have) and thats it. This and every other US5 thread wouldnt turn into an arguement if you were not so persistant on how you think that your marker is NOT a copy what-so-ever of the Tippmann A5 and if you accepted the fact that the A5 is better than the US5 in a bunch of ways. I dont like saying that other guns are better than mine(when they are), or that they have nicer features(Closed bolt Autocockers COUGH), but I do. And btw Mr. Blonde, I know that one USD does not equal one Canadian Dollar, but I know they are around the same. -------------
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 08 October 2006 at 11:29pm
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yeah especially nowadays .89 i believe last year it was like .60 cause the us economy is crap now. there preddicting a canadian dollar to be worth more by this time next year ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 08 October 2006 at 11:31pm
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actually i origionally did give my opinion then peopel make posts directed at me and i answer.
whatever let it die ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |