In all fairness, that very same blog also reported that AP made the same mistake.

I suspect a quick survey would reveal that this type of thing happens on a regular basis - this just happened to be a particularly high-profile mistake.

I listen to Fox news radio just because it provided me with something from the other side of the table for a change....

I am also a Hannity listening right winger, but I don't believe it was an accident in this case. This isn't a new issue, but someone decided to keep it under wraps until just before an election to stain not only Foley, who deserves it, but also the republican party.

In response, Fox tries to pull a propaganda stunt by making a 'mistake' so that casual observers to the news that night would associate Foley with the wrong party. There are a lot of people out there who live under rocks and don't have too much of an idea about this whole mess, and would buy it.

I don't defend Fox news here, in fact I think its pretty apparent where their political agenda is, but they're no different from the other media networks out there doing the exact same thing from the other side of the table.

All I want is the friggin news, and what do I get? No matter what channel or station, I get politics, regardless of the story.

spanish language news > bbc news > all others

even though i have no idea what they are saying, i like how they will show some crazy stuff on spanish language news.
people getting shot and blown up etc.

watch them words.

.Ryan wrote: play on people's ignorance for political gain...Like that one radio commercial with this black lady telling her friend about how the Dems made the KKK and voted for segregation and all that, playing on the fact that most people don't realize that the Dems used to be the right-wing party before their shift to the left....Whoever thought that mess up needs smacked....

CNN has been known to ask poll questions then never mention the results if it doesn't fit the story they want to do. I think one blatantly conservative-slanted network makes up for the multitude of modestly liberal slanted networks out there, especially when you factor in the amount of people who get their news from comedy central.

If FOX is so institutionally republican, why does the fox network air shows that would royally piss off the bible-thumping right wingers you all claim they represent? Just so those people have a reason to call into the news network and complain about how entertainment is all smut these days? I mean, look at the stuff they run on sunday night.

If it were some Democrat getting drunk and sending lewd e-mails to an underaged female secratary, the Republicans would be going apecrap and the majority of this forum wouldn't think the whole democratic party was going to go down.

But since it's a ghey republican, it's a huge deal. The democratic party is always bashing on the republicans for being homophobic, but they're definatly hyping up the homosexual aspect of this.

Actually, I think the "pedo" bit is WAY oversold. 

Mark Foley is not a pedophile.

Or at least there is no evidence of that.  Pedophiles like children.  16- and 17- year-olds are not children.  As a legal matter they may be jailbait, but they are hardly children.  If you like girls or boys that have passed puberty, then you aren't a pedophile

Statutory rape =/= pedophilia

And, of course, the age of consent in DC is 16, which is also the minimum age for pages (makes you wonder...)  And, of course, no actual sex occurred.  So I don't see what laws were violated.  Sexual harassment, and lots of it, of course, but that isn't a crime.

So, IMO - Mark Foley is definitely a Dirty Old Man and a serious closet case, and he massively abused his position of power, but pedophile?  I don't think so.

If lusting after 16-year-olds makes you a pedophile, I hereby declare the entire adult world population pedophiles.

NAMBLA folks think 16 is WAY too old.  Which is my point exactly.

Heck, 16 is at or above the age of consent in most countries around the world, and about half of the US states.

Brian fellows has a point though I hate that, on of my idiot GF's thought that before we started dateing, why I dated her I'll never know, friggen airhead but hot.

For after all what's man in nature? A central point in between nothing & all, infinitely far from understanding either.

What I want to know, is where ABC got their mits on the messages?

Reb Cpl wrote: What I want to know, is where ABC got their mits on the messages?

I'm sure we'll learn more about this over time.

It does seem quite obvious, however, that somebody somewhere made a timing decision on the release.  Whether that was ABC or somebody else, somebody clearly thought this was the best time.

Rambino wrote: Reb Cpl wrote: What I want to know, is where ABC got their mits on the messages? I'm sure we'll learn more about this over time. It does seem quite obvious, however, that somebody somewhere made a timing decision on the release.  Whether that was ABC or somebody else, somebody clearly thought this was the best time.

THAT I don't doubt for an instant..

if it turns out that this information was gleaned through dishonest means, or intercepted somehow, I want to know how come it is acceptable to use such methods to nail a political foe to a wall, but when the president tries to initiate a similar program on a larger scale, for security purposes it becomes a violation of civil rights.

sporx wrote: i'm only 17...soon to be legal. what can I say?

What state are you in?

sporx wrote: Clark Kent wrote: sporx wrote: i'm only 17...soon to be legal. what can I say? What state are you in? Missouri. why?

Age of consent in Mizzourah is 17.

(14 if the other person is under 21)

Congratulations - you are legal.

That's what I've been saying.  The age of consent is 18 in only 14 states or so.  In most states it is 16 or 17, and most also have "Romeo and Juliet" rules that bring it down even further if both people are young.

This whole focus on 18 is way oversold.

mbro wrote:   I was just going for the daily show reference.

And I totally missed it.

I suck.

sporx wrote: Clark Kent wrote: I suck. shocker.

I like girls...

:P