best speedball gun?
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Topic: best speedball gun?
Posted By: bikener
Subject: best speedball gun?
Date Posted: 10 October 2006 at 9:35am
| whats the best speed ball gun for its money? any answeres would be greatly appreciated! |
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Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 10 October 2006 at 9:50am
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At the moment? Probably a toss up between the Cyborg 06, Legend, and Quest.
Up and coming it seems that Aedes and Invert-Mini are already in favor. If you are talking pumps, PPS makes great pumps, but alot will also praise the Phantom. ------------- 
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Posted By: Rico's Revenge
Date Posted: 10 October 2006 at 11:34am
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What is "the money?" ------------- "Thats right, I play pump... your girlfriend borrowed my last set of batteries." "How many times a second are you going to miss me before I shoot you?" Dave Ellis Rocks!!! |
Posted By: Savior_six
Date Posted: 10 October 2006 at 8:47pm
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I own a Ion and I like it alot. Around $200 - $250. Ramping, break-beam vision, different firing modes and various other goodies. ------------- Team Salem, Kuwait 08 |
Posted By: estcstpnt
Date Posted: 10 October 2006 at 8:49pm
Good question.
I would say for a low price and a decent gun, ICD Promaster. ------------- Thinking about it... |
Rico's Revenge wrote:Posted By: ekeboo
Date Posted: 10 October 2006 at 10:05pm
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There is a thing called a search button.
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Posted By: Rico's Revenge
Date Posted: 11 October 2006 at 12:09pm
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^^ There is also a "Which Gun is Best" Forum. But I guess I can give my opinion here if the criteria is further described. ------------- "Thats right, I play pump... your girlfriend borrowed my last set of batteries." "How many times a second are you going to miss me before I shoot you?" Dave Ellis Rocks!!! |
Posted By: ¤ RaVeN ¤
Date Posted: 11 October 2006 at 1:29pm
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$200-$250 range...ion and promaster...personaly i think the ion is better then the promaster because the promaster dosent have a ASA, macrolineing nor a good reg stock...so sure its a 250 gun...but with a $60-90$ reg, $25 asa and $5-$10 macro its more like a 350 gun...the ion has a DECENT reg stock, asa, and lining...the only thing the promaster has over it is the board and trigger are really good...they weight about the same, but the ion has a lower profile and is slightly more gas efficent...also the ion is more customizable then the promaster...there are no aftermarket grip frames or bodies for the promaster like their are for the ion...which sets the ion a step up further again...really it comes down to how much are you willing to spend at one time to get the marker even working...and what kind of style marker fits your personal style...they both have break beam eyes...so thats not a problem...and really i think the stock ion board is good enough, mainly since alot of turneys are starting, from what i hear, to limit people to 15 BPS...having an unlimited ROF like the promaster does dosent really help you there unless you just want to show off...the ions stock board is capped at 17...which shouldnt really pose a functional problem...just set it to 15 bps semi auto and play...anything beyond 10 bps in my mind dosent really help you any more...you are already throwing a good stream of paint toward the target...now your just wasting shots...in terms of accuracy...their about the same...i would say from what i have seen, both guns, when using the same paint and same barrel (freak with same inserts) are a close match...but the ions SFT seems to give it just a slight advantage over the promaster...i forgot to mention that the pormaster does have a better stock bolt then the ion...but it would only cost you around $40-$50 to get a L6 or a smart parts firebolt... ------------- 
ions are like mustangs...alot of people have them but not many know how to use them... |
Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 11 October 2006 at 1:44pm
holy...crap... -------------
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Posted By: ¤ RaVeN ¤
Date Posted: 11 October 2006 at 1:52pm
lol...what?...figured if he wanted some information about it...id put it out there...lol  -------------
ions are like mustangs...alot of people have them but not many know how to use them... |
Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 11 October 2006 at 1:56pm
Dot dot dot -------------
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Posted By: ¤ RaVeN ¤
Date Posted: 11 October 2006 at 2:40pm
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el em eh oh -------------
ions are like mustangs...alot of people have them but not many know how to use them... |
Posted By: MilSimBaller
Date Posted: 11 October 2006 at 3:31pm
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If your talking entry level then I'm with Raven on the Ion. Sure the promaster is great. At one time I was going to get one, but then I compared the cost effectiveness of the Promaster to the Ion and the Ion really is the better choice. If you do decide to get an Ion you'll need a few things to get the best out of it. Heres a list.
Now if your like me, and you dont want your Ion to look the same as everyone elses, get a unique body from ANS or the like. Now that list just includes the gun, you'll also want to get a good HPA tank and a Hopper(Empire Reloader or Halo B) |
Posted By: MeanMan
Date Posted: 11 October 2006 at 5:04pm
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^^If your getting a body kit wait for Redz to relase theirs ------------- 
hybrid-sniper~"To be honest, if I see a player still using an Impulse I'm going to question their motives." |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 11 October 2006 at 5:57pm
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SFT = marketing gimmick... ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell" 
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Posted By: ¤ RaVeN ¤
Date Posted: 11 October 2006 at 7:34pm
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why so? -------------
ions are like mustangs...alot of people have them but not many know how to use them... |
Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 11 October 2006 at 10:09pm
Every marker pretty much has SFT. Smart Parts just patented it and sued everyone for it. Its an O-ring in the front of that thing (ugh, the name escapes right now). -------------
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Posted By: ¤ RaVeN ¤
Date Posted: 11 October 2006 at 10:47pm
ah gotcha......thats kinda funny...are you talking about the oring on the front of the bolt? =/ my spyder dosent have one  ...but my raptor does...as far as i know from reading SFT (seal forward tech.) is just simply that it seals the bolt in the barrel during the shot right?...the only reason i like smartparts really is because of the ion...=/...which i just got into recently...and SFT is really the only thing about them i dont dwell into...lol-------------
ions are like mustangs...alot of people have them but not many know how to use them... |
Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 12 October 2006 at 7:48am
Its not on the bolt but in the breech I think. -------------
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Posted By: ¤ RaVeN ¤
Date Posted: 12 October 2006 at 7:58am
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this seal?................................../\ -------------
ions are like mustangs...alot of people have them but not many know how to use them... |
Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 12 October 2006 at 9:47am
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That should be it. -------------
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Posted By: ¤ RaVeN ¤
Date Posted: 12 October 2006 at 10:21am
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ahhhhhhhh, intresting...most guns i see have the seal on the bolt itself... -------------
ions are like mustangs...alot of people have them but not many know how to use them... |
Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 12 October 2006 at 11:53am
Thats because if companies wanted to use SFT now, they would have to pay SP. Before, companies like ICD had SFT. -------------
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Posted By: MilSimBaller
Date Posted: 12 October 2006 at 2:52pm
When is this body kit coming out? And are there any existing pictures for it? Please share |
Posted By: MeanMan
Date Posted: 12 October 2006 at 4:47pm
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Nope, i saw it in a magazine, it has it covered with a sheet it looks pretty nice from the sketch thats wierd -------------
hybrid-sniper~"To be honest, if I see a player still using an Impulse I'm going to question their motives." |
Posted By: VTpaintballer
Date Posted: 13 October 2006 at 7:51am
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mags aren't bad.
i like the ego too |
Posted By: BigBoy713
Date Posted: 14 October 2006 at 12:22am
| id say if ur going pretty cheap a idc promaster or an ion but the promaster is better but if ur going high end its either a cyborg,quest,pm6/dm6,egos,angel 1 i gave too many answers but there the top ones right now atleast for me |