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Topic: J&J or LAPCO ?
Posted By: TIPPY98ACT
Subject: J&J or LAPCO ?
Date Posted: 15 October 2006 at 8:43pm
Witch one is best? I want the one that is the best barrel for cheap paint? I want the the one that can handle all types of paint! Deal with a break and still shoot straight, and is also easy to clean!



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Posted By: bassist11
Date Posted: 15 October 2006 at 9:46pm

Get a J&J. They are awesome barrels. I did find that Elite's are too big for the barrel so they break. If you avoid that paint, the J&J is the way to go.



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Posted By: tecumseh
Date Posted: 15 October 2006 at 10:54pm
bigshot, you just need to get medium bore paint and it will shoot farther and straighter than a j&j

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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 15 October 2006 at 11:33pm
It will not shoot farther than the J&J, they have the same range.

I've played with them both, and I'd have to say the Bigshot is slightly more accurate. Go with it.


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A-5
E-Grip
JCS Dual Trigger
DOP X-CORE 8 stage x-chamber
Lapco Bigshot 14" Beadblasted

Optional setup:
R/T
Dead on Blade trigger


Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 15 October 2006 at 11:44pm
yep but there's effective range.

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Posted By: mjicmike
Date Posted: 16 October 2006 at 1:44am

Originally posted by You Wont See Me You Wont See Me wrote:

It will not shoot farther than the J&J, they have the same range.

I've played with them both, and I'd have to say the Bigshot is slightly more accurate. Go with it.

I second that !!! 



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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 16 October 2006 at 2:04am
I've got a JnJ, and I quite like it. It's good enought to where I don't want to spend another $50 on a Lapco.

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Posted By: ¤ Råp¡Ð F¡rè ¤
Date Posted: 16 October 2006 at 3:26am
Originally posted by Myself from another thread Myself from another thread wrote:

The Lapco Bigshot shoots as far as any ordinary barrel would, but the accuracy is amazing. You can hit anything within range with just 1-2 shots. One time when I was just test firing my gun, it took me 2 shots to get a ball through a 2" gap between the limbs of a tree, and I was even using bad paint.

Whenever I play, I use my Bigshot over my Flatline.


I love the Bigshot. Most accurate thing I've ever seen. Works well even with old paint, and it's always clean.


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Posted By: UV Halo
Date Posted: 16 October 2006 at 6:12pm
Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

yep but there's effective range.


Now, what do you mean "Effective Range"?

I tend to think of effective range as the range at which you could expect a paintball hitting someone on the body, and having a greater than 50% chance of breaking.

If you're talking accuracy, that's a bit difficult since we are essentially shooting a cone that widens and contracts from batch of paint to batch of paint, and depends on when you're cutting off the cone as being too inaccurate.


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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 16 October 2006 at 9:04pm
Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

yep but there's effective range.


Care to explain what you mean by that?

Physics tells us 2 balls shot at the same velocity will go the same distance, no matter what barrel is used. So I hope thats not what your talking about.

If your talking about the range at when it will break, Both paintballs will be going the same speed at a given time, so that doesnt work either.


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A-5
E-Grip
JCS Dual Trigger
DOP X-CORE 8 stage x-chamber
Lapco Bigshot 14" Beadblasted

Optional setup:
R/T
Dead on Blade trigger


Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 16 October 2006 at 11:01pm

i mean the range  that you could point the marker directly at someone and hit them in 1-2 shots.

that means in an open field and the person is not moving.



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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 16 October 2006 at 11:25pm
In that case... Every barrels "effective range" is the same.

Except for the flatline and apex.


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A-5
E-Grip
JCS Dual Trigger
DOP X-CORE 8 stage x-chamber
Lapco Bigshot 14" Beadblasted

Optional setup:
R/T
Dead on Blade trigger


Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 17 October 2006 at 12:05am

nope

my stock barrel might only be able to hit someone at 100 ft where a freak might hit 125-150 (within 1-2 shots)

no extra range just more accurate.



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Posted By: TIPPY98ACT
Date Posted: 17 October 2006 at 12:50am
Does anyone have or used both barrels? I don't care about range. I just want to know why one would be better than the other. my main reason is i'm sick of getting barrel break's in my werk's! I know barrel breaks will always happen. I also know better paint to barrel match will help this problem. But other than what wal-mart or D's sporting good's has to offer i'm out of luck! I just want to know which one is better for the paint I have access to. Also can anyone give me J&J's website?


Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 17 October 2006 at 9:34pm
Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

nope

my stock barrel might only be able to hit someone at 100 ft where a freak might hit 125-150 (within 1-2 shots)

no extra range just more accurate.



Thats mostly paint to barrel match.


And yes, I have used them both. My brother has the J&J, I have the bigshot. We both agree mines slightly more accurate.


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A-5
E-Grip
JCS Dual Trigger
DOP X-CORE 8 stage x-chamber
Lapco Bigshot 14" Beadblasted

Optional setup:
R/T
Dead on Blade trigger


Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 17 October 2006 at 9:44pm

Originally posted by TIPPY98ACT TIPPY98ACT wrote:

Witch one is best? I want the one that is the best barrel for cheap paint? I want the the one that can handle all types of paint! Deal with a break and still shoot straight, and is also easy to clean!

That's up to you! Not possible to say! All paint is different! Also not possible! A dirty barrel is a dirty barrel!



Posted By: TIPPY98ACT
Date Posted: 18 October 2006 at 12:23am
Thank's hybrid-sniper and you won't see me. You guy's said it all in the last two post's. Now I need to choose the bigshot or the snapshot!


Posted By: Silent
Date Posted: 18 October 2006 at 3:46pm
That is not alwas true. If you compare the flatline or Apex barrel to a standard straight barrel, and shoot them both at the same velocity, they will not both go the same distance. The flatline or Apex barrel will surpass the distance.

-Silent

Originally posted by You Wont See Me You Wont See Me wrote:

Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

yep but there's effective range.


Care to explain what you mean by that?

Physics tells us 2 balls shot at the same velocity will go the same distance, no matter what barrel is used. So I hope thats not what your talking about.

If your talking about the range at when it will break, Both paintballs will be going the same speed at a given time, so that doesnt work either.


Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 18 October 2006 at 6:16pm

Originally posted by TIPPY98ACT TIPPY98ACT wrote:

Thank's hybrid-sniper and you won't see me. You guy's said it all in the last two post's. Now I need to choose the bigshot or the snapshot!

I'd go for the Snapshot because it's a kit, and with a kit you can shoot pretty much anything.



Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 18 October 2006 at 10:28pm
Originally posted by Silent Silent wrote:

That is not alwas true. If you compare the flatline or Apex barrel to a standard straight barrel, and shoot them both at the same velocity, they will not both go the same distance. The flatline or Apex barrel will surpass the distance.

-Silent

Originally posted by You Wont See Me You Wont See Me wrote:

Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

yep but there's effective range.


Care to explain what you mean by that?

Physics tells us 2 balls shot at the same velocity will go the same distance, no matter what barrel is used. So I hope thats not what your talking about.

If your talking about the range at when it will break, Both paintballs will be going the same speed at a given time, so that doesnt work either.


Flatline and apex are exceptions, everyone knows that, i didnt think it needed to be said.




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A-5
E-Grip
JCS Dual Trigger
DOP X-CORE 8 stage x-chamber
Lapco Bigshot 14" Beadblasted

Optional setup:
R/T
Dead on Blade trigger


Posted By: wrathlon
Date Posted: 19 October 2006 at 7:01am
I own a J&J and could not be happier with it , but if your breaking paint with the werks barrel its gonna break in any barrel . This is my experience with the 11" werks and my 14" J&J. The only difference is that the J&J will actually or usually clean after a break with a few shots as not the case with the werks . As far as accuracy I am amazed at the accuracy that I can achieve with the J&J and so are many who are peaking through small holes in their bunkers only to take one right in the mask . Time and time again I nail these peepers who think they are safe peeking through a 6" whole in thier bunker !


Posted By: TIPPY98ACT
Date Posted: 20 October 2006 at 1:04am
I'm going to get a 12 inch J&J for my 98. When I get my A5 I will get the Lapco Bigshot for it. Thank's for the help wrathlon!



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