I had a chance to sling paint with Tom Cole of Bad Company this year at TWC and he mentioned a high quality/new Spyder for 07.  Is this a new gun?

Actually it is a new spyder and they work different now

The VS3 has the rocking trigger

The VS2 has the standard trigger

What is the VS Series

For more than two years we have looked for ways to create a paintball marker that captures all the elements of this sport’s futures including looks, rate of fire, efficiency, and feel. We have achieved these goals and will bring to market the NEW VS Series markers, built with 3G technology including a patent pending low pressure, high performance Balance Valve. The Spyder VS2 with Infiniti Trigger and Spyder VS3 with Rocking Trigger will utilize this 3G technology Balance Valve, making the marker operational at 200psi while maintaining incredible speed and ultimate comfort.

Looking for ways to evolve the Spyder product line, the VS Series paintball markers will include features like Break Beam Eyes, Electronic functions with a dual touch switch, a mini C/A regulator with on/off dial, a vertical adapter with low pressure gauge, a 12” two piece micro ported barrel, a low rise adjustable feed neck, and a Delrin bolt with lock cocking knob. The Spyder VS2 will come standard with the VS Infiniti Trigger providing a fluid feel to the marker with a 25 shot per second firing rate. The VS3 will come standard with a VS Rocking Trigger allowing up to 30 shots per second with two contact points for a maximum rate of fire. Both markers will maintain a sleek all Aluminum body style allowing the user to feel connected to the speed, and accuracy of the VS Series.

Knowing that all paintball players are unique, we have created custom dust finish color Body Kits to individualize your VS marker. The custom five piece Body Kits will come available in Red, Yellow, Green, and Blue and will include eye covers, feed neck, low pressure chamber, rubber fore grip, and a striker plug. Also available is the Spyder 14” two piece Aero twist barrel with optional color tips to enhance the look, and accuracy of the VS marker.

The fluid all Aluminum VS Series receiver design protects the internal 3G technology patent pending Balance Valve that allows the marker to operate at 200psi. While keeping state of the art design in mind, we have developed this custom valve that can attribute to the speed, and “never before experienced” feeling you get while shooting the VS Series markers. The 3G technology also incorporates a lightweight striker, softer springs, and an increase in chamber capacity enhancing the low pressure functionality of the VS marker.

We showed the VS markers to the public at the last three pro level paintball events. “There were lines of people wanting to be the first to hold the markers. The response was well received, as we have put our time and dedication into making this marker the future of paintball”, says Event Manager Jason Donaldson.

“This is an exciting time for Spyder,” says Arthur Chang, CEO of Kingman Group. “We have put forth great efforts to give the paintball player a reliable product with the VS Series marker, which will include never before seen speed, comfort, and efficiency.” He continues, “We have always worked hard to maintain our leadership in the paintball industry and the value of Spyder markers will continue to grow as we provide products that are dedicated to the latest technology and future of this sport. We couldn’t be more excited about the upcoming release of our 3rd generation Spyder and the direction in which we are headed.”

haha...the banner says its the future of paintball...

I'm sorry, but spyder will never be the future of anything.

^^ Ya seriously once someone has a bad exspeirence with spyders they automaticaly think every other one is bad. Give em a chance

I think if they are going to totally redesign a gun they would use new internals but ya never know

and you know all the cool "agg"(god i hate that word) kids will never give it a chance

^Without a doubt.

It really doesnt look that bad and I'm sure I'll see a few at the field. Hopefully I get the chance to shoot one.

This kid happens to have a fully whacked out Victor using all stock parts except a reg., valve spring and striker spring.  It cycles at below 200 psi.  All mods are commonplace other than the "Lightningbolt 54 gram stock striker mod".

It's all speculation at this point for me as far as the new gun goes.

Don't mind the Max-Flo I just wanted to see what it might look like with it on.

guys, it has eyes, a reg, low pressure, a fancy on/off, adjuastable trigger, the grip frame off of the old lcd angel (look alike, anyway), and a high-cap board.  how is it "the same thing"?

personally, i'm a spyder fan.  I shot a friend's pilot the other day, and with some minor trigger mods, they can be quite fast.  I'm sure this one will be better..  due to the new trigger design, and low pressure. 

I might pick one of these up, scratch the spyder logos off, and when the agg kids ask what it is, i'll tell them it's a spyder.

Looking at the operating manual, Kingman has added some nice features.  The adjustability of the trigger looks nice and the asa/reg. set-up looks to be a good move too but as far as being a totally new design it's possibly a true electro pneumatic with still the same basic stack tube design,with some adjustments which isn't a bad thing.  Time after time we see many companies making minor tweaks on new models.  What's the new DM?.....DM74?  These are the moves companies make that allow kids to have the latest and greatest and it allows me to pick up their old, used junk for cheap....................

http://www.spyder.tv/section/support/manuals/vs2.pdf - http://www.spyder.tv/section/support/manuals/vs2.pdf

i know this is probably a very stupid question but do they come with expansion chambers can u use co2?

i really want a vs3 will probably save up and ask for money for christmas for it.

tell me why is an infiniti trigger better than a normal double?

these guns might be true electro pneumatic.  c02 may be a no-no

but then again I spotted a sear in the schematics.  This is truely what sets them apart from other tourney guns in that you can use c02.  It's a good thing.

carl_the_sniper wrote: i know this is probably a very stupid question but do they come with expansion chambers can u use co2? Kingman suggests running HPA, and it's a reg, no an x. i really want a vs3 will probably save up and ask for money for christmas for it. tell me why is an infiniti trigger better than a normal double? Wave design and it looks cool.

Lightningbolt wrote: these guns might be true electro pneumatic.  c02 may be a no-no but then again I spotted a sear in the schematics.

Nope, it's an electromech.

so is it really any faster?

i want the vs3 anyways, rocking trigger is very fast.

hmm... explain

is the only difference the trigger and the milling?

Sleeper: Doesn't look like much, but will in reality rape face.

And yeah, those are about the only differences.

Which is why you get a VS2.

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sigh

you had to start

43 pages here we come

Lightningbolt wrote: est whoever said marker gallery was only for guns that you own.  Use your brain and figure out that I posted a couple of threads about next seasons guns.

I was hoping there wouldn't be contreversy. I wasn't saying it's bad the has just been alot lately.

1100!

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I dont know, they look pretty nice for a spyder

the reg just doesnt go with it though

Close minded pig-dog!

Seriously though, I don't know why everyone's hating on Spyders. I quite like them. Evidently it's the new "in."

i love spyders for speedball

i used to think spyder was only good for ocasional/beginner players. now there sweet earlier on i wanted the electra with eye, now i want the vs3

For $170 at the local shop... I'll be picking a VS2 up to mess around with.   They have a bunch on the wall.

We aired one up a couple weeks ago and they actually function well.

DeTrevni wrote: Close minded pig-dog! Seriously though, I don't know why everyone's hating on Spyders. I quite like them. Evidently it's the new "in."

cause half the people haven't even used them they just go on what they hear. I liked my spyder I just got rid of it to get a tippmann c-pro but know I want an A-5

spyders arent that bad, all of my freinds have em, couple imagines and an e99 avant, the only thing is they all chop cept me with my tippy n they hate me for it hehe

The pics on the first page look a lot like the booth I went to in SD in September. From what I could feel, the trigger "feel" is very nice on them and they seem.... relatively well built. I wouldn't mind having one.

This after the complete abomination that is a 2003 Imagine I had to deal with.