sniper question.
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Topic: sniper question.
Posted By: abrams_75
Subject: sniper question.
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 8:37pm
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why do many paintball players both woodsball and speedball say sniper doesnt exist in the world of paintball? thx.
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 8:59pm
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Because they don't?
And if you try to argue that they do, you will be mauled with no mercy.
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Posted By: iceman1186
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 9:07pm
hybrid-sniper wrote:
Because they don't |
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Posted By: abrams_75
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 9:09pm
iceman1186 wrote:
hybrid-sniper wrote:
Because they don't |
| what do you mean they don't what makes them don't exist
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Posted By: iceman1186
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 9:12pm
I'm not going to feed the Troll...
Just take our word for it. They DO NOT exist.
Edit- Your grammer is the level of a 2nd grader. It should say "What do you mean they don't exist? What makes them not exist? Please learn to type correctly.
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Posted By: NBCGod
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 9:13pm
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You can't accurately snipe with a paintball gun, apperently.
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 9:15pm
abrams_75 wrote:
iceman1186 wrote:
hybrid-sniper wrote:
Because they don't |
| what do you mean they don't what makes them don't exist
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Why don't you tell us why they do? That is a lot more fun to read.
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Posted By: abrams_75
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 9:15pm
iceman1186 wrote:
I'm not going to feed the Troll...
Just take our word for it. They DO NOT exist. | Feed the troll. Know I am lost to begin with.
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Posted By: kuhndog599
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 9:18pm
uhhh. do a search. there are PLENTY of topics over this. especially this.
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Posted By: iceman1186
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 9:19pm
Hybrid is correct, tell us why they DO exist.
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Posted By: abrams_75
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 9:22pm
I really don't know I am a noob at this sort of things and still long paintball slang
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Posted By: iceman1186
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 9:24pm
abrams_75 wrote:
I really don't know I am a noob at this sort of things and still long paintball slang |
Do a search, there are a lot topics about this.
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 9:26pm

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Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 9:26pm
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My leg hurts. My friend did a flying kick into my leg during football. He had cleats on.
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Posted By: abrams_75
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 9:32pm
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jerseypaint wrote:
My leg hurts. My friend did a flying kick into my leg during football. He had cleats on. | ouch
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 9:33pm
Where are you from, Abrams?
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Posted By: abrams_75
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 9:38pm
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DeTrevni wrote:
Where are you from, Abrams? | Good old USA, MS. Gulfcoast. I have 3 years of paintball as my background. I hate specialopspaintball.com
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 9:47pm
Well, I'll be nice and answer your question. Snipers don't work out simply because all paintball guns (with the exception of the Flatline and Apex) have the same range, are not near accurate enough, and will never be quiet enough to effectively one-shot-one-kill anyone. Even with the Apex or Flatline, the gun won't be accurate enough to gurantee a 1 shot hit.
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Posted By: abrams_75
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 9:51pm
DeTrevni wrote:
Well, I'll be nice and answer your question. Snipers don't work out simply because all paintball guns (with the exception of the Flatline and Apex) have the same range, are not near accurate enough, and will never be quiet enough to effectively one-shot-one-kill anyone. Even with the Apex or Flatline, the gun won't be accurate enough to gurantee a 1 shot hit. | Thats what I am looking for thx you s0oo0oo much. Well guys I am closing for tonight.. good night.
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Posted By: estcstpnt
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 9:55pm
Oh crap. I hope this won't start.
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 10:14pm
Now, see? That wasn't so hard. He wasn't defending anything, he just had a question.
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 10:33pm
DeTrevni wrote:
Now, see? That wasn't so hard. He wasn't defending anything, he just had a question. | i think he was smart enough to realize that he wouldn't win. I can respect that, it usually becomes 5 pages before someone realizes it.
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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 10:55pm
Problem is your an noob, everyones thinks they exist when you first start out.
I used to think I was the uber sniper also. It jsut doesnt work.
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 10:55pm
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Hybrid isn't being very friendly tonight....
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 10:57pm
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It's otay. We love Hybrid anyway!

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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 11:12pm
We all have our not so nice moments.
I tend to have more ban than good though.

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Posted By: TIPPY98ACT
Date Posted: 27 October 2006 at 12:52am
I'm going to agree with you guys. Being a sniper in paint ball with the markers most of have will never happen. I also hope by know that everyone knows that the longest barell won't help you at all! But what about the old school, seasoned player with a pump action, in the woods with a Ghillie suit? I would bet he/she could take a player out before they knew what hit them. Just my opinion.
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 27 October 2006 at 1:06am
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Sure. Maybe a player. Then the players next to him are gonna light anything in the general proximity up. In paintball, there are always players close by (if you're smart).
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Posted By: TIPPY98ACT
Date Posted: 27 October 2006 at 1:41am
Good call DeTrevni. But at that point wouldn't the player have done their job of being a sniper? One shot one kill right? Also if that person was useing good sniper tactics wouldn't they shoot and move with out being seen? A good rule for a sniper is never shoot from the same spot more than once! Also why would a person who is sniping engage more than a single player? A good sniper would know better than to shoot at more than a single person who isn't alone! Wow a paintball sniper might be REAL!!! Anyway, I think the best effect (other than getting a mask shot on someone) is to get a surrender! I love the surprise on the face of a player when all of a sudden, your standing over them and they don't know were you came from, you call them out and move on to the next player. That beats being a sniper anyday! Shock and Awe baby! Again just my opinion!
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Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 27 October 2006 at 9:17am
Surrenders don't work at tournies. We had a kid try that, needless to say he got lit up.
And why only wait to shoot one person, that not going to help your team if you can only get one out and pass up the opportunity to get out more because "it wouldn't be smart". Snipers are just campers who have a slow trigger finger.
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 27 October 2006 at 3:56pm
this is retarted
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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 27 October 2006 at 11:55pm
Dear god... why cant this topic ever die...
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 27 October 2006 at 11:56pm
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Because you just bumped it?
(Sorry, some of Hybrid's attitude is rubbing off on me. )
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 28 October 2006 at 12:27am
DeTrevni wrote:
Because you just bumped it?
(Sorry, some of Hybrid's attitude is rubbing off on me. ) | no it works
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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 28 October 2006 at 2:58pm
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DeTrevni wrote:
Now, see? That wasn't so hard. He wasn't defending anything, he just had a question. |
Thats because you are an old-school tippmann forumer when it comes to noobs asking about snipers. Instead of flaming you just answerd the question.
Good job.
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 28 October 2006 at 10:22pm
TIPPY98ACT wrote:
I'm going to agree with you guys. Being a sniper in paint ball with the markers most of have will never happen. I also hope by know that everyone knows that the longest barell won't help you at all! But what about the old school, seasoned player with a pump action, in the woods with a Ghillie suit? I would bet he/she could take a player out before they knew what hit them. Just my opinion.  |
I don't wear a ghillie suit, but I do have some 3D camoflage attached to my mask on the theory that this is the one part of my body I have to risk exposing to observation if I want to see potential targets. I use a pump (Phantom) for at least one game every time I play paintball. I usually get OSOKs with my Phantom. This does not make me a sniper; it does make me fairly good at ambushing/stalking. I get one shot eliminations because I know if I miss I'm going to be seriously outgunned so I choose my shots very carefully. I stalk/ambush because I've found (at least for me) that when I play with my pump I am much more effective mobile than I am stuck in a static position getting off one shot for every five or so that is coming in from my opponent. I can get away with ambushing groups as opposed to single individuals for several reasons. First is reaction time; I've gotten good enough with my Phantom that I can usually take out the first two opponents before anyone else reacts. Secondly, I choose my hiding places carefully and the return fire (if any) from the remaining opponents does not usually even come near me. Thirdly, many times there is a lag between my firing and any return fire as the remaining opponents dive into cover. Fourthly, when I'm playing folks with the skills to hunt me back, I usually still get away because I picked the location for the engagement and made sure of two things; that I have an escape route and my opponents do not have an easy/safe route to use for a counter-attack.
None of this makes me a sniper. I normally prefer to engage within 50-65 feet. (The undergrowth/cover we have makes this possible and I don't have to worry about misses/bounces.) I do not hide in one place and hope someone comes by. I stalk, observe, and try to get ahead and set up an ambush that I know they will come to. Most times it works but every once in a while I end up a waiting around muttering "where the heck are those guys?" and then have to go find them again. Whats really annoying is the groups of young guys (I'm not young) that move to fast for me to get ahead of. I usually just end up harrassing them from behind until they decide to abandon their "mission" for the game and chase me down. Finally, I don't lay down when waiting in ambush unless there is absolutely no other way to avoid being seen because it takes me to long to get back up.
Again, I am not a sniper. I play this way because I can't run at top speed (I can shamble slowly if I stop to catch my breath often) all over the field or pull the trigger a bazillion times a second. What I can do though, is be patient and sneaky, so I go with my strengths. In fact, the whole reason for getting the pump guns was to force myself to exercise a little more discipline in the woods. After I put the R/T on my 98 and got the electro-cocker I started getting sloppy and relying to much on rate of fire (which for me is not all that impressive).
Wow, I got way more long winded than I meant to. In a short answer to the question I believe was asked, I don't consider pumps to be paintball "sniper" rifles. As a pump player I prefer to avoid longballing because I don't have the rate of fire to defend myself/move up against better equipped players once I give my position away. I prefer to get in close while they don't think anyone is around and then know that my first shots will count for something.
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 28 October 2006 at 11:25pm
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yeah theres nothing that necessarily makes a pump player better than someone who can fork out 20 bps.
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Posted By: Spike511
Date Posted: 29 October 2006 at 1:15pm
they do... ask spec ops.....ambush sniper.......book closed
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Posted By: Oedipus
Date Posted: 29 October 2006 at 1:18pm
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Spike511 wrote:
they do... ask spec ops.....ambush sniper.......book closed |
Are you kidding me?
I say that my brother is Jesus.... I said it... case closed....
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 29 October 2006 at 1:56pm
Oedipus wrote:
Spike511 wrote:
they do... ask spec ops.....ambush sniper.......book closed |
Are you kidding me?
I say that my brother is Jesus.... I said it... case closed.... | i say my brother is also jesus
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 29 October 2006 at 1:58pm
carl_the_sniper wrote:
Oedipus wrote:
Spike511 wrote:
they do... ask spec ops.....ambush sniper.......book closed |
Are you kidding me?
I say that my brother is Jesus.... I said it... case closed.... | i say my brother is also jesus |
You should all send me money . . . I said it . . . case closed.
Edited Note: Make that lots of money.
Second Edited Note: Hey, Carl the Sniper and Oedipus are brothers!
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 29 October 2006 at 2:02pm
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no way
theres 2 jesuses now... there i said it
how much money and where should i wire it to?
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 29 October 2006 at 6:33pm
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I'm under the assumption Spike was being sarcastic.
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Posted By: 8-Ball
Date Posted: 29 October 2006 at 8:31pm
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hi Jesus 1 and Jesus 2 *waves* im confused of why sniper is in ur name tho?? but i agree u cant b a sniper in paintball...
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 29 October 2006 at 8:51pm
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For me it's because I'm cool enough to pull it off.
As for carl, I have no clue.
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Posted By: strykerx15
Date Posted: 29 October 2006 at 9:29pm
check out ( so you wanna be a sniper? )in the new players forum .
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 29 October 2006 at 10:20pm
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Dont advertise for your posts moron
I made that name because first the tippmann forum thing was going to just be something that i would join, ask a few questions then leave. Can't remember those questions actually. I used the name because it was my battlefield 2 name and easy to remember.
Secondly, at the time of joining i still thought there were snipers in paintball.
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 29 October 2006 at 10:50pm
carl_the_sniper wrote:
no way
theres 2 jesuses now... there i said it
how much money and where should i wire it to? |
All the money you have. I will send the drop location to you by personal messenger. You must memorize the address, then eat the note it was on. Once you have made the drop you will immediately forget the address. Follow these instructions exactly or there will be dire consequences.
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 29 October 2006 at 10:53pm
but if youre sending it through pm how am i going to eat it?
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Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 29 October 2006 at 10:59pm
Upload it
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 29 October 2006 at 11:10pm
carl_the_sniper wrote:
but if youre sending it through pm how am i going to eat it? |
Copy and paste it to MS word and print it.
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Posted By: kickinwing2010
Date Posted: 30 October 2006 at 8:07am
Mack wrote:
[QUOTE=TIPPY98ACT]I'm going to agree with you guys. Being a sniper in
paint ball with the markers most of have will never happen. I also hope by
know that everyone knows that the longest barell won't help you at all!
But what about the old school, seasoned player with a pump action, in the
woods with a Ghillie suit? I would bet he/she could take a player out
before they knew what hit them. Just my opinion.  | I don't
wear a ghillie suit, but I do have some 3D camoflage attached to my mask
on the theory that this is the one part of my body I have to risk exposing
to observation if I want to see potential targets. I use a pump (Phantom)
for at least one game every time I play paintball. I usually get OSOKs with
my Phantom. This does not make me a sniper; it does make me fairly
good at ambushing/stalking. I get one shot eliminations because I know
if I miss I'm going to be seriously outgunned so I choose my shots very
carefully. I stalk/ambush because I've found (at least for me) that when I
play with my pump I am much more effective mobile than I am stuck in a
static position getting off one shot for every five or so that is coming in
from my opponent. I can get away with ambushing groups as opposed to
single individuals for several reasons. First is reaction time; I've gotten
good enough with my Phantom that I can usually take out the first two
opponents before anyone else reacts. Secondly, I choose my hiding places
carefully and the return fire (if any) from the remaining opponents does
not usually even come near me. Thirdly, many times there is a lag
between my firing and any return fire as the remaining opponents dive
into cover. Fourthly, when I'm playing folks with the skills to hunt me
back, I usually still get away because I picked the location for the
engagement and made sure of two things; that I have an escape route
and my opponents do not have an easy/safe route to use for a counter-
attack.None of this makes me a sniper. I normally prefer to engage within
50-65 feet. (The undergrowth/cover we have makes this possible and I
don't have to worry about misses/bounces.) I do not hide in one place
and hope someone comes by. I stalk, observe, and try to get ahead and
set up an ambush that I know they will come to. Most times it works but
every once in a while I end up a waiting around muttering "where the heck
are those guys?" and then have to go find them again. Whats really
annoying is the groups of young guys (I'm not young) that move to fast
for me to get ahead of. I usually just end up harrassing them from behind
until they decide to abandon their "mission" for the game and chase me
down. Finally, I don't lay down when waiting in ambush unless there is
absolutely no other way to avoid being seen because it takes me to long
to get back up.Again, I am not a sniper. I play this way because I can't run
at top speed (I can shamble slowly if I stop to catch my breath often) all
over the field or pull the trigger a bazillion times a second. What I can do
though, is be patient and sneaky, so I go with my strengths. In fact, the
whole reason for getting the pump guns was to force myself to exercise a
little more discipline in the woods. After I put the R/T on my 98 and got
the electro-cocker I started getting sloppy and relying to much on rate of
fire (which for me is not all that impressive).Wow, I got way more long
winded than I meant to. In a short answer to the question I believe was
asked, I don't consider pumps to be paintball "sniper" rifles. As a pump
player I prefer to avoid longballing because I don't have the rate of fire to
defend myself/move up against better equipped players once I give my
position away. I prefer to get in close while they don't think anyone is
around and then know that my first shots will count for something.[/
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every thing you just said fits the definition of sniper stocks prey
and takes a shot from a concealed position because unlike designated
rifle men a snipers shot doesnt have to be any certain length
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Posted By: strykerx15
Date Posted: 30 October 2006 at 9:28am
but. evey new player wants to be a sniper cuz they think they have more range if they get a longer barrel and stuff. of coures you cant get the ghilli suit and your phantom sounds awesome , and have a good marker , but , , , you cant be a long range sniper . if you want you can call yourself a HIDDEN RIFLE MEN . i call my self that , and it etter suits the job cuz for the peaple who like tippys ( myself hehe ) wont get out guned like you wer talking about , but they dont have the accurecy that a pump has . i can see how your gun gets a osok cuz it is like the best pump out there. and you probly play a few times a month . but also newbis think that they are gonna get all ( sniper gear ) and then that makes them a sniper , or HIDDEN RIFLEMEN .. sorry.. but it takes alot of time and many trips to acualy learn how to be good at sneaking, hidding, getting cloes enof to make a kill, you know that sort of thing
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 30 October 2006 at 3:40pm
whatever i give up
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Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 30 October 2006 at 6:19pm
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I think next time I play at a scenario game I'm going to wear one of these and insist I'm a paintball fighter pilot.

Then when somebody tries to convince me that there can be no such thing since I can't fly a plane at the field I will insist that I am so a fighter pilot because I really can fly a plane in MS flight simulator and I do indeed have this cool hat. Next thing you know this will catch on with noobs who want to be even more l33t than snipers, and Special ops paintball will create a new position of anti-aircraft gunner and a new gun that you absolutly must have mommy buy for you if you want to play scenario ball. I'd better pattent the idea before they do.
By your logic I could snipe with a shotgun as long as I was hidden when i shot and it would not matter if i was immediatly detected afterwards. I guess everybody who shoots from cover is a sniper, but wait, we have another phrase for that..umm not retarded and out of the game in five seconds. People who call themselves snipers in paintball imply by doing so that they are somehow different from the normal player. So far nobody has been able to prove that they do anything signifigantly different than any woodsball player with half a brain, or that if they do anything different it is it all effective. Don't make me bust out the ballistics calculator and show how much a paintball drops between 30 and 50 yards, or how much wind effects it, or how fast it is going by that time. I do not care how much skill with a paintball gun you think you have, or how good you are shooting your .22 at 50 yards. I can hit a human being in center mass from the prone position at 500 yards using open sights with consistancy, I could not do so with a paintball gun at a tenth of that distance. Errors of range estimation of a small as a few meters will drop your shot in the dirt with a paintball gun at short range, and if you lock it down in a vise it still wont be accurate enough.
Crawl back to the special ops forum if you want to have your ego stroked. Maybe they've come up with some new position they can sell you specialised, bulky gear for. And please buy it too. It'll help creat jobs in mexico and maybe help with our illegal immigration problem.
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 30 October 2006 at 7:39pm
kickinwing2010 wrote:
every thing you just said fits the definition of sniper stocks prey
and takes a shot from a concealed position because unlike designated
rifle men a snipers shot doesnt have to be any certain length |
If you're going to quote me, try understanding the point of what your quoting.
I will now attempt to correct some of your misconceptions about my playing style.
- Yes I stalk (not stock) my opponents. This does mean that I attempt to sneak up on them and establish ambushes, hopefully shooting them from a concealed location before they notice me. This is not sniping, this is normal, intelligent tactics. What else would I do, advertise my location by yelling at them to come over and be shot?
- Yes, I kind of ghillied up my mask. This is not sniping, it is a basic use of 3D camoflage techniques to make my mask less noticable. (As a side note, the mask is the most noticable part of most individuals equipment and it is also the hardest to conceal because, since ones face and eyes are behind it, they must expose it to detect/select targets.) What do the supposed non-snipers do, paint their mask bright pink and add white bunny ears?
- I prefer to take selected shots from close range and use minimal paint. This is not sniping, it is ambushing. When I'm using a semi-auto I tend to fire more shots because I can. I use a pump sometimes for the extra challenge and to help me improve. If I was sniping, which it would be cool to have in paintball, I would be eliminating individuals from beyond the range of potential retaliation. Unfortunately, that technology does not yet exist in paintball. Again I wonder, what do non-snipers do in ambush situations, do they fire off a few intentional misses to ensure that they don't get a one-shot-one-kill and get mistaken for a sniper?
Why does the range matter in defining paintball sniping? Consider the following:
- Paintballer's use the military definition of sniping. There is no arguing this point. The ghillie, the OSOK credo, the cool sniper specific gadgets from Spec Ops, even the tactics that many would be snipers try to use is all lifted directly from the military.
- Since the military definition is being used, then the military standards apply.
- In the military, the primary differences between your one each Joe infantry and your sniper comes down to training and equipment.
- This training and equipment is what allows the sniper to make shots at ranges that others wouldn't dream of attempting with standard equipment.
- That range capability is what makes a sniper, a sniper.
Here's another scenario, this is something I've done several times with newbs who really had a good attitude but were having a bad first day at the field. I ask them if they would like to finally get an elimination or two but warn them that the price might be getting seriously lit up. If they're game, I have them stick with me on defense while I observe the other team. Then I place them in a good hiding spot that I know will provide them the opportunity to surprise a group of folks. I conceal them and check their concealment from about 30 feet away. After this I tell them not to move or make a sound. The last thing I do before leaving is stand at the exact position that indicates the range they should open fire at. I usually set up nearby to see what happens and take out the stragglers, but they understand they're on their own for this. The newbs I do this with usually get at least two eliminations (one got 6-kid had a quick trigger finger and was a natural at aiming) and generally are pretty happy/excited afterwards.
Morale of the story: Congratulations "snipers" you're as good as a first day newb.
Now I realize that a lot of "sniper" fans (I used to be one, until I did some research on a very valid point another forumer brought up) are going to throw the BS flag at my statements and cling defiantly to your pro-sniper arguments. I also realize that for a lot of folks who are not yet sure of their personal skills, the "sniper" title is a claim to fame that makes them feel special. With that in mind, feel free to call yourselves "snipers" and rest assured a lot of the rest of us who play this game do indeed consider you special.
Edited Note: I'm going to toss the pro-sniper's a bone here. There is a playing style/equipment conbination that I consider closer to sniping than any other. If you combine the flat trajectory of a flatline with low overhead cover you can get situations where the flatline user can make shots at relatively short ranges without being hit by the return fire which breaks on the overhead cover. This is indeed a range advantage provided by the marker setup. Using this advantage wouldn't be true sniping because the advantage is terrain dependent and disapears in the open unlike the advantage military snipers get from their weapons, but it is an advantage. I guess I consider it semi-sniping, and it is as close as anyone will get with current paintball technology. There now I've said enough to get flamed by both side of the sniper issue-all is right with the world.
Second Edited Note: Yes Carl, you can do it with an Apex also.
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Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 30 October 2006 at 7:45pm
rednekk98 wrote:
I think next time I play at a scenario game I'm going to wear one of these and insist I'm a paintball fighter pilot.

Then when somebody tries to convince me that there can be no such thing since I can't fly a plane at the field I will insist that I am so a fighter pilot because I really can fly a plane in MS flight simulator and I do indeed have this cool hat. |
Best response so far I seen in this eternal yak fest.
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 30 October 2006 at 8:40pm
Evil Elvis wrote:
rednekk98 wrote:
I think next time I play at a scenario game I'm going to wear one of these and insist I'm a paintball fighter pilot.

Then when somebody tries to convince me that there can be no such thing since I can't fly a plane at the field I will insist that I am so a fighter pilot because I really can fly a plane in MS flight simulator and I do indeed have this cool hat. |
Best response so far I seen in this eternal yak fest. | I would agree, if only he had said "chopper pilot".
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- Each cyclone feed is independently hose fed through 3-inch tubing to ensure an endless supply of aircraft destroying firepower
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- The synchronized twin electronically operated firestorm cranks allow rates of fire in excess of 60 rounds per second (When they have the balls to invade your airspace, show them you have the balls to take them out!)
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Noob 1: I gotta get me one of those.
Noob 2: Dude, it's like $4,000, what do you want one of those for?
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Noob 2: Darn, I'm broke, I guess I'll have to stay a sniper.
Noob 1: That's not cool anymore . . . loser.
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 30 October 2006 at 8:50pm
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sigh
guess im gona have to slit my wrists to forget this
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 30 October 2006 at 9:27pm
Evil Elvis wrote:
rednekk98 wrote:
I think next time I play at a scenario game I'm going to wear one of these and insist I'm a paintball fighter pilot.

Then when somebody tries to convince me that there can be no such thing since I can't fly a plane at the field I will insist that I am so a fighter pilot because I really can fly a plane in MS flight simulator and I do indeed have this cool hat. |
Best response so far I seen in this eternal yak fest. |
Stick around. Sometimes, they get better.
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Posted By: 8-Ball
Date Posted: 01 November 2006 at 3:50pm
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hey that would be a nice gun to have...you could clear out a base and have like over 100 shots on each person woo hoo now finaly a new and aproved way of making people mad at you and getting banned from feilds
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 01 November 2006 at 3:59pm
tewow
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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 01 November 2006 at 8:16pm
lions and tigers and bears....oh my....lions and tigers and bears...oh my
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 01 November 2006 at 8:41pm
oldsoldier wrote:
lions and tigers and bears....oh my....lions and tigers and bears...oh my | noodz?
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